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People of Italiano decent, reply here! MARZULLO is an Italiano group worldwide. It's a worldwide organization of people spreading the truth. One major truth is that Italia is the true latin state. Romans/Ancient Italians created latin, right? Roma is our capital, right? Then i have a right to speak up. I agree that we are a minority north of roma, but spain is the same way with it's geography.

And on that note. Did you know that the Romans/Ancient Italians had bull games as a sport long before the spaniards did? Just a little taste of the trutH. I have to leave right now, but i hope i get some replies.

Have a great day!

Buono Notte to the rest!

People of Italiano decent, reply here! MARZULLO was a group i started for italianos by italianos and for italianos (don't know where i got that line from..) But that the truth. It's a worldwide organization of people spreading the truth. One major truth is that Italia is the true latin state. Romans/Ancient Italians created latin, right? Roma is our capital, right? Then i have a right to speak up. I agree that we are a minority north of roma, but spain is the same way with it's geography.

And on that note. Did you know that the Romans/Ancient Italians had bull games as a sport long before the spaniards did? Just a little taste of the trut. I have to leave right now, but i hope i get some replies.

Have a great day!

Buono Notte to the rest!
Can someone tell me what great impact ITALY (as in not the Roman Empire) has had on the world? (Aside from creating facism...thanks...)

Can someone tell me what great impact ITALY (as in not the Roman Empire) has had on the world? (Aside from creating facism...thanks...)


Dude...the FOOD.

I adore italian food. I even make it ;)

I don't understand what the purpose of your group is.

First off. I believe that you're confused. Fascismo isn't Nazism. First get that straight. And si, it ran smoothly under it's inventor Mussolini until hitler came to power. Around the late 30's is when mussolini was dealing bad diplomacy with his demise. Hitler basically told him to join him or be invaded. We have a great navy, but that was about it. Country didn't want war, unpatriotic commanders...But atleast we didn't act like the french and surrender before the war came to your lines. Instead they creeped around in the sewers like cowards.

Dude...the FOOD.

I adore italian food. I even make it ;)

Americanized food you must be referring to. Unless you're a Molto Mario type of Chef. He resembles a barbarian, but i sure like that guy. *Joking*

Two birds with one stone. My group is a resource for Italians to learn Itaiano and Latin for free. I want to do it on my own. It's a group if others follow. To talk about all these impacting issues everyday on the forum. Think ACLU;) But i'm not a left-winger (independent). Also reform in Italia and such. Attivista.

I don't understand what the purpose of your group is.

Well, i'm stating that we are the true latin people. We are a minority north of roma, but as we are so similar to spain, we both also have a similar geography. We are a majority everywhere else.

Americanized food you must be referring to. Unless you're a Molto Mario type of Chef. He resembles a barbarian, but i sure like that guy. *Joking*

Two birds with one stone. My group is a resource for Italians to learn Itaiano and Latin for free. I want to do it on my own. It's a group if others follow. To talk about all these impacting issues everyday on the forum. Think ACLU;) But i'm not a left-winger (independent). Also reform in Italia and such. Attivista.


Oh, I never said I could do a LOT of italian :p. I work at a pizza joint run by a guy who's accent is strong enough to confuse the hell out of everone else working there. I do the pizzas and occasionally the other meals.

Heh, i see. Sicilian style pizza is the closest to the real thing btw.

Cool, he's Sicilian :p


Half the time our customers order a pizza with oil and viniger instead of pizza sauce :p

Italian immigrants used to cook pizza on the radiator.

GOED, what is your background?

I want to fight for the title! And i want reform in itali. I want italia to leave iraq! And it's mother situation is that italia is a puppet to america.

I'd like to teach your left-wing [insert rude expletive here] some history.

Can someone tell me what great impact ITALY (as in not the Roman Empire) has had on the world? (Aside from creating facism...thanks...)

Let's see: the Renaissance, with Dante, Leonardo, da Vinci and all the rest; Colombo, Caboto, Verrazano, Kino, Marconi, d'Amici, Fermi, Galileo, Torricelli, Volta, and a very long et alius. (Oh, yeah, that too)

So, impact, a lot.

Not to forget the mafia! Thank God for the mafia! I mean, the world would be a sadder place without the Godfather to watch.

And did I forget Mussolini? *smacks head!* And jeez, how could I overlook the world's biggest crime syndicate the Roman Catholic Chrurch!

And did I forget Mussolini? *smacks head!* And jeez, how could I overlook the world's biggest crime syndicate the Roman Catholic Chrurch!

Stop the sarcasm. And Mussolini was a great man who was backstabbed by Hitler. And let's talk about germany! Our greatest allie, correct? War crimes, thousands of italians murdered..Only one to top that is Stalin. Murdered 9,000,000 slavs.

MARZULLO is what it is.

First off. I believe that you're confused. Fascismo isn't Nazism. First get that straight. And si, it ran smoothly under it's inventor Mussolini until hitler came to power. Around the late 30's is when mussolini was dealing bad diplomacy with his demise. Hitler basically told him to join him or be invaded. We have a great navy, but that was about it. Country didn't want war, unpatriotic commanders...But atleast we didn't act like the french and surrender before the war came to your lines. Instead they creeped around in the sewers like cowards.

I'm not confused. Hitler picked up his version of Facism from Moussolini. I do believe Italy's entire navy (or most of it) was sunk during World War II in port by the British...so I guess that is a great navy...but instead of acting like the French and giving up, you changed sides...

I'm not confused. Hitler picked up his version of Facism from Moussolini. I do believe Italy's entire navy (or most of it) was sunk during World War II in port by the British...so I guess that is a great navy...but instead of acting like the French and giving up, you changed sides...

We had great naval fleets. But we made bad decisions. The navy is still ran by personel, correct? No. Hitler had his own ideology from day 1. If mussolini was to bring nazism into italia, do YOU know many people will be murdered? JUST LIKE SPAIN...atleast 50 million...we all know that italians aren't anglo like germany/austria. But there are "whites" noth of roma where people of strong italian roots are less populated. Don't you know that Spain had it's own fascism revolution?

Mussolini wasn't against jews. It was an ideology specified of not about what you are, it's how things were ran. Trust me, in germany, you can accuse your neighbor of being a jew and they will have a hard time. I really do think that you're historically untouched. Mussolini also rallied the people about bringing back the roman empire.

I also have this Yahoo! Groups forum to talk about the group. Had it for awile, but i thought that it could get some support here.

What do you think i'm trying to do? I want to know what everyone thinks.

I'd like to teach your left-wing [insert rude expletive here] some history.

Teach me some history? I'm waiting for it... By the way (BTW), i'm not a liberal left-winger. I'm independent of every issue. Not just liberal on all.

Beyond teaching Latin and Italiano for free, i want to make major reform in Italia. Ditch the american puppet system, but keep it democratic with a roman structure, with less power to the emperor!

MARZULLO is about Italia and it's people worldwide. Nothing else.

We had great naval fleets. But we made bad decisions. The navy is still ran by personel, correct? No. Hitler had his own ideology from day 1. If mussolini was to bring nazism into italia, do YOU know many people will be murdered? JUST LIKE SPAIN...atleast 50 million...we all know that italians aren't anglo like germany/austria. But there are "whites" noth of roma where people of strong italian roots are less populated. Don't you know that Spain had it's own fascism revolution?

Mussolini wasn't against jews. It was an ideology specified of not about what you are, it's how things were ran. Trust me, in germany, you can accuse your neighbor of being a jew and they will have a hard time. I really do think that you're historically untouched. Mussolini also rallied the people about bringing back the roman empire.

Eh...Italy was the first Facist state in Europe. Hitler got the idea of the FACIST form of government and added his ubermench NAZI ideology to it...go read up about post-WWI Italy and Germany please.

He refined his ideology with Fascismo because he admired it. But he couldn't ever have it. Mussolini invented it, so i would naturally think that we will have it? I tell you what, i rather live under italian fascismo as a citizen then a citizen in ameica where capitalism in the richest country in the world has so much poor and 2 million prison population!

He refined his ideology with Fascismo because he admired it. But he couldn't ever have it. Mussolini invented it, so i would naturally think that we will have it? I tell you what, i rather live under italian fascismo as a citizen then a citizen in ameica where capitalism in the richest country in the world has so much poor and 2 million prison population!
I didn't say Italian facism was good or bad. I'm just giving them credit for inventing it.

Yeah. I have no problem here. I always see FASCISMO, even MUSSOLINI always being bashed. They are all referring to GENOCIDAL NAZISM! I just try to steer people on the right path...But sometimes text wars are started this way heh..

Italy is a great nation, and I love the country of my birth, but I must speak out against the terrible injustices faced by Southern Italians, especially my fellow Sicilians.


The Italian Navy was never one of the most powerful in the world, however it was quite formidable. Italys airforce at the beginning of the war itself was one of the best trained in the world, with its "A" pilots all having made trans-atlantic flights. The problem with the Italian military has never been courage nor has it been tactical command at the squad level and below, instead it has been politics and the poor usage of logistics. Strategies were never employed because the proper equipment was never available, or orders from high command came too late. A large portion of the Italian navy was destroyed by the British Airfoce primarily because the British attacked out of the range of Italian aircraft, and Italian ships were never equiped with RADAR or proper anti-aircraft defenses.

"I have seen much too many heroic performances of
Italian units and individuals--such as the Folgore
Division near El Alamein, the artillery in the Tunisian
battles, the crews of the Kleinstkampfmittel (smallest
means of combat such as one man torpedoes) of the Navy,
the crews of torpedo boats, the units of torpedo
bombers, etc.--not to express this opinion with
conviction. But the decision [outcome] in a war is not
brought about by top performances of individuals but by
the training condition and morale of the entire
army. It is therefore wrong to represent the Italian
soldiers and the Italian people all together as
militarily inferior and unsuitable for a tough war.. In
this context, Mussoloni and his former state
secretaries are either guilty of gross neglect, or
Mussolini is definitely guilty of not having desisted
from war if he was aware of these precarious gaps."
- Field Marshall Albert Kesselring


The Italian Military Enigma (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1988/HEG.htm)

This is an excellent Report, I suggest all of you read it.

My papa always told me that instead of fuel, water was sent. I thought he may be stretching the italian stories, but i believe it. There were alot of communist partisans.

Argrigento, atleast you speak the truth. I hope that you can be patriotic about our ancestry in the future. I want to do my part! Why are we the true latins that don't claim the title? I do! You know, i bethcha i'm the only Italian who had mind stormed about reforming italia with our roman structure. It needs to be fixed, but it's alot better than this choking dog chain!

Si. Capitalism brought in the money, but at what cost? Patriotism? Culture?

Well, you certainly do have an interesting perspective, however I feel that Capitalism is one of the only uniting factors that exist in modern Italy. As more money is sent to the south the cultural and social differences diminish and are replaced as Economic prosperity becomes more widespread and industry is less centralized. Capitalism is not the problem, in my opinion, it is ineffective and apathetic leaders.

And Opal Isle, can we please refrain from the "Who's country had a great impact on the world" bickering? Honestly, what country are you from?

I am not banishing capitalism, i'm just saying that why can't a roman structure sit on it? That is my biggest fight. You know what? Surprised noone has ever thought about bringing back the roman structure. Mussolini did, but i think it was just to get more support. I want the empire parts to be symbolic, imperialism doesn't work. But if Italia is attacked, i'd expect to go to war. But not for occupation, long wars is why north of rome is the way it is.

Well the modern Italian armed forces can handle themselves far outside the realm of NATO, with modern weaponry and some joint Franco projects that would make US R&D look like Matel. The most important thing to be noted however is that the modern Italian state does not have any violent neighbors or unclaimed lands to take, so despite having a large military budget and well equiped armed forces it has no real need for it. If Italy is attacked, it will go to war, and it could win, especially since Berlusconi is so close with Bush and other NATO leaders... however on its own it has a relatively low military budget and low population, so it is often at a disadvantage. Italian Peacekeeping Forces in Iraq however have been effective to a point too, and have performed admirably. There is no real need for an Italian military might, anymore than there is a need for a French or German military might.

Of course it would be nice to "relive the glory of Rome", but such things are very realistic...things have changed a lot in the last couple of thousands of years and declining birthrates are certainly not helping.

Hey now, if we wanted to crush Turkey and change Istanbul to Constanople, that's revenge for ya', heh.

Si, we must leave Iraq at once just like Spain did. We must also leave the EU and bring back the great Lira! I miss it! My plan on getting my views across involves spamming the bulletin boards in these america super markets with printed paper and a good local base. I want a worldwide attivista group. I reside in America, but i will move to italia asap!

I want to get out there and fight!

*streaks through thread*

The good old Lira was roughly 2,100 to the dollar.... The Euro is helping to keep the economy in competition at this point. I do not think we have any right to those lands conquered two millenia ago, and I feel that Italian improvements must be made within the Political Infastructure, but must also maintain within the current american-based system.

Furthermore I believe our stance in Iraq is quite right and proper, and that we must avoid giving into black mail like the Spanish and Filipinos did, that only encourages terrorism.

The good old Lira was roughly 2,100 to the dollar.... The Euro is helping to keep the economy in competition at this point. I do not think we have any right to those lands conquered two millenia ago, and I feel that Italian improvements must be made within the Political Infastructure, but must also maintain within the current american-based system.

Furthermore I believe our stance in Iraq is quite right and proper, and that we must avoid giving into black mail like the Spanish and Filipinos did, that only encourages terrorism.

American based? Roman base!

The Romans were ahead of there time indeed, but the Republican system they innovated has been brought to a new level in the American Constitution, which I think is the strongest and most effective system of Laws and Government ever created.

And iriq isn't our war. America took the fall. But i'm talking about italy having it's own identity. If you studies the roman times, you will fall in love with it like i have.

Romans had all types of different types of currency during it's reign. After the barter system, came the bronze. And on and on..Romans went to gold later on...

At the beginning of the third century BC, markings were added to these bronze pieces to denote weight and worth. The as, as it came to be called, weighed a Roman pound or libra

I want to dig up everything Roman that italia needs to make up a new government and fix/delete/add everything.

I could bash america allnight as i usually do, but i'm not in the mood. Actually, romans were 2,000 years before it's time. Had toilets while the french 2,000 years later were wiping themselves with their hands in a secluded area.

When rome fell, hygene did too.

I enjoy Roman History very much, but as much as I admire it or rather marvel in its glory I am also realistic. I do not feel like Italy can ever return to that glory. The population isn't large enough, the industry isn't there, and the world is populated by too many bigger, badder, and more powerful nations. Living your life in the memory of a long dead civilization isn't going to help make Italy better. Regardless of how well you think the system would work, it didn't, thats why its not around today. People did not simply forget aout Ancient Rome, and while you can improve upon it, the days of Ionic Columns, Great Public Baths with sprawling atriums, Praetorian Guards with plumes of purple and the Glorious Legions spreading across Europe are long gone.

I think that your ideas about Romanizing the System of Government are truly intriguing, however I am sorry to say I must shatter your illusions about this, Ancient Rome is gone and Italy will never be that again. That is not to say Italy will not be a great country, and that it will not be a world power, because indeed it is still that today, nor is this to say that we cannot learn anything from Ancient Rome, but militarization and a stronger economy than the European Union is too far off to hope for.

I am too optimistic, and i think we can create it. I'm not talking about BRINGING IT ALL BACK! Bringing it back, but fool-proof. The roman tradition in the 21st century. Maybe it could be an isolationist state. I want to to be democratic, but i don't want the emperor dictatorship. That is one of the main reasons why it fell on top of it's own foundation.

I want to give the Emperor a PM position, maybe life position if it was passed into the constitution. The british never had a constitution, but your government generally needs one to know how things are going to run.

Maybe setup a Legati and legions using roman numerals, heh. Just look back in history and fix it. I want to leave no room for admiration in the government. That only led to the death of Ceasar.

Slow change unless a revolution occured, like in Cuba;) Fidel Castro should be admired! It's not what he is doing now, it's what he has accomplished. He has did something that should be greatly cherished in that country. I don't want a revolution, just trying to make change and unify as an organization.

I wouldn't want to take donations from working Italians! I loathe these groups that do this to people. It's all about the money. C'mon, the people pay their dues, about 15% goes to the goals of the group...But all the rest gets stored in a bank.

You're not a bad erson, i'd just say that perhaps your family that came to this country (if you're the 1st generation, i apologize) they wanted to be american. Why can't we be italian patriotics away from italia?

Argentina is 75% Italian.

Going to eat some ramen noodles;) Do you have AIM or Yahoo?

My screen name is right there somewhere. Look for the little AIM running man symbol.


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