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The Omega Imperium
05-08-2004, 13:26
They have nothing to do with Latin. Is it hard just calling them s. americano's? If anyone is latin, it's people from non northern italia decent (we are a minority north of roma to the anglo-saxons whom the romans fought and lost to the visigoths early spanish who didn't speak spanish, they were barbarians. Romans created and were the early Italiano's, like myself. True Latin's....).

Get over it that was like 2500yrs ago even longer, when the etruscans were still kings of what would be Rome. the latins subjugated other groups and they became the precurser of thr Roman empire later renamed Italy. leave the poor latin americans 'Latinos' not 'latins' alone. plus your language is dead so yeah :P
Kanabia
05-08-2004, 13:46
Yes yes i would. im from teh Brisbane area and its hard for a non conformist like me :( Too much rap and hiphop for my metal ears \m/

I also like chicks with kawaii kitty ears

Heh, I knew it :D

A lot of Sri Lankans and Indians also all think they're rappers too. "Hey, we're black! Can we play too?" Hahaha.
Shaed
05-08-2004, 13:48
Originally Posted by VoteEarly
Also you should make sure the woman can properly answer all the following.


1) Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party?

2) Are you now or have you ever been involved in an interracial relationship?

3) Are you now or have you ever been involved in drug use, possession, or selling?

4) Are you now or have you ever been charged with a felony or other serious crime?

5) Are you now of have you ever been engaged in homosexual or bisexual activities?

6) Are you now or have you ever been convicted of a sexual offense?

7) Are you now or have you ever been convicted of a crime against a child?

8) Are you now or have you ever been an employee of the federal government?

9) Are you now or have you ever been a member of a non-Christian religion?

10) Are you now or have you ever been addicted to any drug such as alcohol or narcotics?

11) Is any of your ancestry non-european?

That's about all the questions I can think of right now, it's beyond 3 am.

But, if a woman can answer no to all 11 of them, she's probably safe to be with.

OK. I just had to answer this. So:

1. Not officially, but I am leaning towards socialism cuurently. I might change once I learn more about it, but so far it seems to fit all my left-wing beliefs. Kind of doesn't fit my right-wing beliefs, but eh.

2. No, but my friends are currently trying to set me up with my asian friend. I'm resisting, but only because he's Christian and deserves better than me (he's one of those sweet non-vocal Christians, not one of the wackos)

3. No no and no. I also don't drink alcohol, and would rather gouge out my eyes than smoke. However, I have friends who drink, know people who smoke weed, and both my parents smoke, and I don't judge any of those people (I do judge the people *my* age - 17 - who smoke though, since they had all the information about it before hand and just made a stupid choice).

4. Nope. Only thing I've ever been ticketed for was not having my valid concession card on public transport - even though I was 16 at the time and the machines said that you could by concession if you were '16 or under'. Bleah I say.

5. Nope. I'm pro-gay though, so if you're a bigot, you can blow it out your ear.

6. Nope. I own fluffy handcuffs though :cool:

7. Nope. I dislike children, but only to the extent of being mildly annoyed by their company, not to the point of doing anything about it.

8. *shudders*. no.

9. I'm a baptised Catholic, although I'm currently reserving belief until I either find faith, or find proof that God does not exist. I also believe in evolution, abortion, gay-rights et al, if that's a problem

10. No. Caffeine is giving me a slight problem, but that is because I spend too much time studying and partaking in recreational activities (like reading, for all you dirty minded people), so I need caffiene to keep me awake through school

11. Nope - half Irish all the way back on my mum's side (with some Welsh and Scottish and, I hope, English), and all Italian on my dad's side as far back as records extend.

So please, rate me! I want to know if I live up to your arbitary condtions! And then I can ask you 11 arbitary questions to see if you live up to as high a standard as you expect your women to! Yee :D
Daroth
05-08-2004, 13:49
I think if they look like they are from asia, they are asian (and yummy) If they look like they are from russia, they are pretty white (and maybe yummy) if they look like they are from india, well they are indian (bad experiances but... okay most times to look at) Race is just color and just skin deep

Race is used a colour. fair enough. Asians= yellow, white, black, brown.
New Fubaria
05-08-2004, 13:53
A better description might be "of Oriental extraction", rather than Asian.
VoteEarly
06-08-2004, 07:40
You do of course realise that you have just alienated 99.999% of the available women out there.


Good, I want the best there is. Not a woman that is race-mixing filth or a druggie and has no racial pride or concept or purity.

Racial purity is America's security!
VoteEarly
06-08-2004, 07:41
OK. I just had to answer this. So:

1. Not officially, but I am leaning towards socialism cuurently. I might change once I learn more about it, but so far it seems to fit all my left-wing beliefs. Kind of doesn't fit my right-wing beliefs, but eh.

2. No, but my friends are currently trying to set me up with my asian friend. I'm resisting, but only because he's Christian and deserves better than me (he's one of those sweet non-vocal Christians, not one of the wackos)

3. No no and no. I also don't drink alcohol, and would rather gouge out my eyes than smoke. However, I have friends who drink, know people who smoke weed, and both my parents smoke, and I don't judge any of those people (I do judge the people *my* age - 17 - who smoke though, since they had all the information about it before hand and just made a stupid choice).

4. Nope. Only thing I've ever been ticketed for was not having my valid concession card on public transport - even though I was 16 at the time and the machines said that you could by concession if you were '16 or under'. Bleah I say.

5. Nope. I'm pro-gay though, so if you're a bigot, you can blow it out your ear.

6. Nope. I own fluffy handcuffs though :cool:

7. Nope. I dislike children, but only to the extent of being mildly annoyed by their company, not to the point of doing anything about it.

8. *shudders*. no.

9. I'm a baptised Catholic, although I'm currently reserving belief until I either find faith, or find proof that God does not exist. I also believe in evolution, abortion, gay-rights et al, if that's a problem

10. No. Caffeine is giving me a slight problem, but that is because I spend too much time studying and partaking in recreational activities (like reading, for all you dirty minded people), so I need caffiene to keep me awake through school

11. Nope - half Irish all the way back on my mum's side (with some Welsh and Scottish and, I hope, English), and all Italian on my dad's side as far back as records extend.

So please, rate me! I want to know if I live up to your arbitary condtions! And then I can ask you 11 arbitary questions to see if you live up to as high a standard as you expect your women to! Yee :D


1) That's okay, I believe in a form of socialism. But it is not internationalist, it is ultranationalism+economic socialism combined for the greater glory of the state.


You ranked high. But the reason you should be resisting dating non-whites is because they are non-white! Not for other reasons, but the end result is you not dating them, so I guess that is fine.

But mind you I am very anti-gay (Leviticus 20:13) they should be put to death as per the bible says.

Also mind you I'm pro large family (I'd say every white couple should have 5-10 kids minimum, and raise them good. So our race can quality and quantity, not a bunch of trashy drug using whiggers, but good honest, and clean white kids)

I especially liked how you're not affiliated with the federal government.

As for your questions for me, fire away!
HadesRulesMuch
06-08-2004, 07:48
1. White
2. Asian (so docile) (just teasing)
3. Carolina girls
Ancients of Mu Mu
06-08-2004, 07:49
Good, I want the best there is. Not a woman that is race-mixing filth or a druggie and has no racial pride or concept or purity.

Probably not a bad thing. Since you and your ilk can't actually be prevented from reproducing, I can only pray that you will eventually die out through in-breeding.

Racial purity, bah! As if such a thing really exists. :rolleyes:
Rainbow-Butt Monkeys
06-08-2004, 07:55
This thread is so racist it's not even funny.

BTW- i like white girls..
Goed
06-08-2004, 08:01
1) asian women
2) Latino girls
3) Native American girls

And that's that :p

For the record, I am a honkey :p
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 08:05
Black. I have the single worst case of jungle fever ever to cross these shores. (I'm a White guy)
Ki Ki
06-08-2004, 08:12
1: White
2: White
3:Chinese/Japenese origin

Any other 'race' is a complete no go for me as they are just not my type.
Chinese/Japanese origin means that they speak English. I think that group are the only other ones I find 'hot'!! :)
Ki Ki
06-08-2004, 08:13
For the record, I am a honkey :p

At the risk of sounding stuipd and dense, what is a 'honkey'?
Goed
06-08-2004, 08:16
At the risk of sounding stuipd and dense, what is a 'honkey'?

racial slur for a white guy. See: Cracker :p
The Blue Viper II
06-08-2004, 08:16
What kind of question is that? "Which race do you prefer to date?" AM I the only one who thinks this is a bit racist? Who cares what someone looks like or what race they are? Why the fuck should it matter?
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:18
What kind of question is that? "Which race do you prefer to date?" AM I the only one who thinks this is a bit racist? Who cares what someone looks like or what race they are? Why the fuck should it matter?


Because most people want to be with their own kind because it is natural and healthy.

What the f--- is wrong with that?
The Blue Viper II
06-08-2004, 08:22
But why not go out with someone because they aren't in your 'racial list'? That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. To me it sounds like some people think they're better than others because they're of a different race which they think is better.
Goed
06-08-2004, 08:23
Because most people want to be with their own kind because it is natural and healthy.

What the f--- is wrong with that?

What the f--- is wrong with wanting to be with other races?
Daroth
06-08-2004, 08:25
What kind of question is that? "Which race do you prefer to date?" AM I the only one who thinks this is a bit racist? Who cares what someone looks like or what race they are? Why the fuck should it matter?

Maybe the question could be contrued as.... but not really. If teh question had been what eye colour do you prefer or hair colour, would it be racist then?
Unfortunately some people have turned it into a racist thing.

What do I prefer.
1. intelligence/wit
2. looks/body
3. culture
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:25
What the f--- is wrong with wanting to be with other races?


Eugenics:

Mulatto IQs are generally on average 10-20 points lower than white IQs.

Black IQs are generally 20-40 points lower than white IQs.


(Go ahead and yell "cultural bias" now. But that doesn't explain why mulattoes do bad, according your theory, they have 2 cultures and should know more)
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:26
Maybe the question could be contrued as.... but not really. If teh question had been what eye colour do you prefer or hair colour, would it be racist then?
Unfortunately some people have turned it into a racist thing.

What do I prefer.
1. intelligence/wit
2. looks/body
3. culture


Well if you like women with blonde hair, red hair, etc. You need to date whites, because blacks all have basically the same kinky hair! They're about as diverse as a pack of copy paper!
Goed
06-08-2004, 08:26
Eugenics:

Mulatto IQs are generally on average 10-20 points lower than white IQs.

Black IQs are generally 20-40 points lower than white IQs.


(Go ahead and yell "cultural bias" now. But that doesn't explain why mulattoes do bad, according your theory, they have 2 cultures and should know more)

Notice how the top of my list was asians...xD

Besides, since when did people choose a significant other based on the cumalative IQ their child would have?
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 08:27
What the f--- is wrong with wanting to be with other races?

Amen. If you are attracted to different races, it doesn't change you at all. In fact, it defines you more clearly. I know what I like, and no bible thumper can change that.
Daroth
06-08-2004, 08:28
Because most people want to be with their own kind because it is natural and healthy.

What the f--- is wrong with that?

Do most people want to be with their own 'race' and 'kind'.

What race are you by the way. Also by 'kind' is that meant to be nationality?
Daroth
06-08-2004, 08:28
Amen. If you are attracted to different races, it doesn't change you at all. In fact, it defines you more clearly. I know what I like, and no bible thumper can change that.

Might have missed something here. Bible thumpers???
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:29
Amen. If you are attracted to different races, it doesn't change you at all. In fact, it defines you more clearly. I know what I like, and no bible thumper can change that.


I know what I like and no race-mixing satanist is going to change that!


White is Right!
The Blue Viper II
06-08-2004, 08:29
Maybe the question could be contrued as.... but not really. If teh question had been what eye colour do you prefer or hair colour, would it be racist then?
Unfortunately some people have turned it into a racist thing.

What do I prefer.
1. intelligence/wit
2. looks/body
3. culture

Of course it wouldn't be a racist thing then. If you judge people on their looks then its different. What's being asked here is what race of partner you prefer. But then again it may not be so different after all if you think about it.

It's just incredibly biased is what it is.
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:29
Do most people want to be with their own 'race' and 'kind'.

What race are you by the way. Also by 'kind' is that meant to be nationality?


Kind= Race (although it could equal nationality)

I am obviously of the white race.
Goed
06-08-2004, 08:31
I know what I like and no race-mixing satanist is going to change that!


White is Right!

**puts on his little devil horns**

...Kinky ;)
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 08:31
Might have missed something here. Bible thumpers???

Yeah, bible thumpers. This guy is giving me a hard time for being 'impure' because I like black girls. I think it's pretty funny, actually, but he uses the bible to condemn my 'sin.'
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:32
All I want is to be left alone in a white Christian land, for white people, by white people, and only white people.

Why don't whites get their own land? Africa today is largely all black (Except for northern and eastern where many muslims are)

Large asian communities in Uganda and a few other nations.

And then the whites in South Africa, Namibia, a few left in Zimbabwe etc.


But try being a white man and moving to Africa.
Daroth
06-08-2004, 08:33
Eugenics:

Mulatto IQs are generally on average 10-20 points lower than white IQs.

Black IQs are generally 20-40 points lower than white IQs.


(Go ahead and yell "cultural bias" now. But that doesn't explain why mulattoes do bad, according your theory, they have 2 cultures and should know more)

Oh? curious to know your sources. How then those work for people who are half germanic half slavic. Or arab/black. or chinese/philipino. or any other of a million combos.
And I assume these stats are from an international acclaimed group, not a group of white supremesists
Goed
06-08-2004, 08:33
All I want is to be left alone in a white Christian land, for white people, by white people, and only white people.

Why don't whites get their own land?


Pfh, go claim some fucking island then. We won't miss you.
Poodleonia
06-08-2004, 08:33
can i have a gurl over the internet to plzz i havn't had a gurl in 2 years :(
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:33
Pfh, go claim some fucking island then. We won't miss you.


We built Europe, why should we leave?
Daroth
06-08-2004, 08:34
I know what I like and no race-mixing satanist is going to change that!


White is Right!

most white americans are a mixed group anyway.
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 08:34
All I want is to be left alone in a white Christian land, for white people, by white people, and only white people.

Why don't whites get their own land?

So Italian-Americans like me aren't allowed in your 'white' land? Or do you let Europeans slide? And what state are you from? Mississippi? Alabama? Not Louisiana. Maybe Georgia?
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:34
most white americans are a mixed group anyway.


I don't care if you're 1/2 italian 1/2 french or 1/2 german 1/2 russian. White is white!
Gilligandar
06-08-2004, 08:36
Gilligandar sez,
Love all your beautiful sisters of all races. And treat them all like you would want your own mother, cousin, sister to be treated. In other words, be nice to all the girls. So sez Gilligandar.
Daroth
06-08-2004, 08:36
Kind= Race (although it could equal nationality)

I am obviously of the white race.

So your just basing the term race on colour? Persians to you are white then? as most have pale skin. Alot of hispanics are pale too, so white. russians, europeans, all white correct?
Goed
06-08-2004, 08:36
We built Europe, why should we leave?

I dunno, why should anyone else leave?

You want special privilages? Then go make your own land and give them to yourself.
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:36
So your just basing the term race on colour? Persians to you are white then? as most have pale skin. Alot of hispanics are pale too, so white. russians, europeans, all white correct?


European is European!
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 08:36
I don't care if you're 1/2 italian 1/2 french or 1/2 german 1/2 russian. White is white!

I would say therewas a difference. I'm olive skinned and Meditteranean looking, which is not the same as someone from England or northern Irealnd.
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:37
I dunno, why should anyone else leave?

You want special privilages? Then go make your own land and give them to yourself.


And then when the blacks and others decide our new land we built suits them, they flood in as immigrants and take it over. Then what?


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0595201601/qid=1091777841/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/103-3004051-8297427?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Hold Back This Day tells a chilling story about the last white people left on Earth.
It is 85 years after the Unification, and mankind has been forcibly united under one government, one religion, and one race. Yet a handful of whites still exist, among them skoolplex administrator Jeff Huxton. As he watches his son slowly destroyed by a racially homogenized world that will no longer accept his kind, Jeff comes to meet Karl Ramstrom. Ramstrom holds out one last hope for them--but only if they can escape the global-wide police state ruled by the iron-fisted leaders of World Gov. And the only place left to run is Mars...
Daroth
06-08-2004, 08:37
Yeah, bible thumpers. This guy is giving me a hard time for being 'impure' because I like black girls. I think it's pretty funny, actually, but he uses the bible to condemn my 'sin.'

are semitic people considered white by him. As jesus was from that group. hope so for his sake if not, oh no! impure
QahJoh
06-08-2004, 08:37
All I want is to be left alone in a white Christian land, for white people, by white people, and only white people.

Why don't whites get their own land?

Having "your own" land doesn't mean it's yours exclusively. Even the most nationalism-centric countries recognize the rights of minorities. Israel the "Jewish state", is 1/6th non-Jewish.

A better question might be, "On what grounds should you have an EXCLUSIVELY white Christian land"?
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 08:38
Gilligandar sez,
Love all your beautiful sisters of all races. And treat them all like you would want your own mother, cousin, sister to be treated. In other words, be nice to all the girls. So sez Gilligandar.

Gilligandar is a truly wise man. I name thee Guru. Love all of those women.
The Blue Viper II
06-08-2004, 08:38
I don't care if you're 1/2 italian 1/2 french or 1/2 german 1/2 russian. White is white!


You're not one of those aryan supporters are you?
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:38
I would say therewas a difference. I'm olive skinned and Meditteranean looking, which is not the same as someone from England or northern Irealnd.


Well if you weren't race mixing trash, I'd accept you as an equal, as a white man.

But you need to think and act white, to be accepted as white.
Goed
06-08-2004, 08:38
And then when the blacks and others decide our new land we built suits them, they flood in as immigrants and take it over. Then what?


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0595201601/qid=1091777841/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/103-3004051-8297427?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Hold Back This Day tells a chilling story about the last white people left on Earth.
It is 85 years after the Unification, and mankind has been forcibly united under one government, one religion, and one race. Yet a handful of whites still exist, among them skoolplex administrator Jeff Huxton. As he watches his son slowly destroyed by a racially homogenized world that will no longer accept his kind, Jeff comes to meet Karl Ramstrom. Ramstrom holds out one last hope for them--but only if they can escape the global-wide police state ruled by the iron-fisted leaders of World Gov. And the only place left to run is Mars...

Eh, there's better fiction out there.

Try this one book called the Bible. Good stuff, but a bit over the top for me.
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:39
You're not one of those aryan supporters are you?


No, I'm a Black Panther and Nation of Islam! (Sarcasm)

What do you think!!!

Boy, you ARA catch on fast! You must be smart!
QahJoh
06-08-2004, 08:39
are semitic people considered white by him. As jesus was from that group. hope so for his sake if not, oh no! impure

Good point. Particularly since he claims he wants a white CHRISTIAN nation. Kind of contradictory, since Jesus was a Jew from what's now the West Bank.
Daroth
06-08-2004, 08:40
I don't care if you're 1/2 italian 1/2 french or 1/2 german 1/2 russian. White is white!

So as long as u look white. (ok....)
Daroth
06-08-2004, 08:40
European is European!

Turkey as well. oh good
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 08:40
Good point. Particularly since he claims he wants a white CHRISTIAN nation. Kind of contradictory, since Jesus was a Jew from what's now the West Bank.

True. If Jesus came back to earth, and he did not know what was going on, he would probably look for a synagogue. I like Jews. I'd become one, if it wasn't for the whole circumcision thing.
QahJoh
06-08-2004, 08:41
Well if you weren't race mixing trash, I'd accept you as an equal, as a white man.

But you need to think and act white, to be accepted as white.

Correction: to be accepted as white by white supremacists. Who, generally, are despised and/or pitied by most non-white supremacists.
QahJoh
06-08-2004, 08:41
True. If Jesus came back to earth, and he did not know what was going on, he would probably look for a synagogue. I like Jews. I'd become one, if it wasn't for the whole circumcision thing.

If you convert under Reform auspices, you only have to have a symbolic circumcision- a pricking of a finger, if I recall.
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 08:43
If you convert under Reform auspices, you only have to have a symbolic circumcision- a pricking of a finger, if I recall.

Really? I might consider it. i like Jewish philosophy. It suits me. Very logical.
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:46
Really? I might consider it. i like Jewish philosophy. It suits me. Very logical.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud.htm#06

Sick and Insane Teachings of the Jewish Talmud
Gittin 69a. To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix it with honey and eat it.

Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy way is given.

Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.

Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."

Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.

Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.

Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.

Gittin 70a. The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic."

Toilet and excrement obsessions are laced throughout Talmud and were exhibited in Spielbergs "Schindler's List" where the Hollywood director shows a Jewish child jumping through a toilet seat in an outhouse and falling into a pool of liquefied excrement. There the child meets two other Jewish children partially immersed who inform the interloper that this cesspool is their hiding spot exclusively and that he must find his own. These are the kind of disgusting and morbid, psychotic images which Jewish kids are exposed to constantly in the cinematic liturgy of Holocaustianity and for that matter, in the Talmud as well.

Gittin 69b (p. 329). To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew should "take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog's excrement as it loosens the limbs."

Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.

Shabbath 86a-86b. Because Jews are holy they do not have sex during the day unless the house can be made dark. A Jewish scholar can have sex during the day if he uses his garment like a tent to make it dark.

Tales of a Roman Holocaust
Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.

(Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).








http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmudx.htm#Talmud Unmasked






http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud2.htm#06

Article I. - Harm must be done to Christians
A Jew is commanded to harm Christians wherever he can, both indirectly by not helping them in any way, and also directly by wrecking their plans and projects; neither must he save a Christian who is in danger of death.

I. Good must not be done to Christians
In Zohar (1, 25b) it says:
"Those who do good to the Akum . . . will not rise from the dead."
At times it is permitted to do good to Christians, but only in order to help Israel, namely, for the sake of peace and to hide hatred of them. Maimonides in Hilkhoth Akum (X, 6) says:
"Needy Gentiles may be helped as well as needy Jews, for the sake of peace..."
In Iore Dea (148, 12 Hagah) it says:
"Therefore if you enter a town and find them celebrating a feast, you may pretend to rejoice with them in order to hide your hatred. Those, however, who care about the salvation of their souls should keep away from such celebrations. You should make it known that it is a hateful thing to rejoice with them, if you can do so without incurring enmity."

1. IT IS NOT PERMITTED TO PRAISE A CHRISTIAN
In Abhodah Zarah (20, a, Toseph) it says:
"Do not say anything in praise of them, lest it be said: How good that Goi is!"
In this way they explain the words of Deuteronomy (VII, 2) ... and thou shalt show no mercy unto them [Goim], as cited in the Gemarah. Rabbi S. Iarchi explains this Bible passage as follows:
"Do not pay them any compliments; for it is forbidden to say: how good that Goi is."
In Iore Dea (151, 14) it says:
"No one is allowed to praise them or to say how good an Akum is. How much less to praise what they do or to recount anything about them which would redound to their glory. If, however, while praising them you intend to give glory to God, namely, because he has created comely creatures, then it is allowed to do so."

2. A JEW NOT ALLOWED TO MENTION THE THINGS WHICH CHRISTIANS USE FOR THEIR IDOLATROUS WORSHIP
In Hilkhoth Akum (V, 12) it says:
"It is also forbidden to make mention of the Akum; for it is written (Exodus XXIII, 13):...and make no mention of other gods."
Muscle Horse
06-08-2004, 08:46
Is this for reaL?

I can only love a person. A person for who they are.

But if you want to be picky, Muscle Horse girls are angels on earth.
QahJoh
06-08-2004, 08:46
Really? I might consider it. i like Jewish philosophy. It suits me. Very logical.

I can recommend some good books on Judaism (not conversion, per se) if you're interested. Do the telegrams still work around here?
Daroth
06-08-2004, 08:47
Decisive action. your an aryan supremist then. So you dont really like whites. only the ones that fall into the catergory of "germanic". Did'nt hitler say the japanese were aryans? all of western europe. He also got on well with arabs.
(does not seem all that white)
QahJoh
06-08-2004, 08:49
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud.htm#06

Sick and Insane Teachings of the Jewish Talmud
Gittin 69a. To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix it with honey and eat it.

Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy way is given.

Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.

Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."

Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.

Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.

Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.

Gittin 70a. The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic."

Toilet and excrement obsessions are laced throughout Talmud and were exhibited in Spielbergs "Schindler's List" where the Hollywood director shows a Jewish child jumping through a toilet seat in an outhouse and falling into a pool of liquefied excrement. There the child meets two other Jewish children partially immersed who inform the interloper that this cesspool is their hiding spot exclusively and that he must find his own. These are the kind of disgusting and morbid, psychotic images which Jewish kids are exposed to constantly in the cinematic liturgy of Holocaustianity and for that matter, in the Talmud as well.

Gittin 69b (p. 329). To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew should "take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog's excrement as it loosens the limbs."

Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.

Shabbath 86a-86b. Because Jews are holy they do not have sex during the day unless the house can be made dark. A Jewish scholar can have sex during the day if he uses his garment like a tent to make it dark.

Tales of a Roman Holocaust
Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.

(Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).








http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmudx.htm#Talmud Unmasked






http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud2.htm#06

Article I. - Harm must be done to Christians
A Jew is commanded to harm Christians wherever he can, both indirectly by not helping them in any way, and also directly by wrecking their plans and projects; neither must he save a Christian who is in danger of death.

I. Good must not be done to Christians
In Zohar (1, 25b) it says:
"Those who do good to the Akum . . . will not rise from the dead."
At times it is permitted to do good to Christians, but only in order to help Israel, namely, for the sake of peace and to hide hatred of them. Maimonides in Hilkhoth Akum (X, 6) says:
"Needy Gentiles may be helped as well as needy Jews, for the sake of peace..."
In Iore Dea (148, 12 Hagah) it says:
"Therefore if you enter a town and find them celebrating a feast, you may pretend to rejoice with them in order to hide your hatred. Those, however, who care about the salvation of their souls should keep away from such celebrations. You should make it known that it is a hateful thing to rejoice with them, if you can do so without incurring enmity."

1. IT IS NOT PERMITTED TO PRAISE A CHRISTIAN
In Abhodah Zarah (20, a, Toseph) it says:
"Do not say anything in praise of them, lest it be said: How good that Goi is!"
In this way they explain the words of Deuteronomy (VII, 2) ... and thou shalt show no mercy unto them [Goim], as cited in the Gemarah. Rabbi S. Iarchi explains this Bible passage as follows:
"Do not pay them any compliments; for it is forbidden to say: how good that Goi is."
In Iore Dea (151, 14) it says:
"No one is allowed to praise them or to say how good an Akum is. How much less to praise what they do or to recount anything about them which would redound to their glory. If, however, while praising them you intend to give glory to God, namely, because he has created comely creatures, then it is allowed to do so."

2. A JEW NOT ALLOWED TO MENTION THE THINGS WHICH CHRISTIANS USE FOR THEIR IDOLATROUS WORSHIP
In Hilkhoth Akum (V, 12) it says:
"It is also forbidden to make mention of the Akum; for it is written (Exodus XXIII, 13):...and make no mention of other gods."

Biblebelievers is full of shit. Take a look at http://groups.msn.com/Mishpocha/thetalmudpart1.msnw and http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:49
Decisive action. your an aryan supremist then. So you dont really like whites. only the ones that fall into the catergory of "germanic". Did'nt hitler say the japanese were aryans? all of western europe. He also got on well with arabs.
(does not seem all that white)


No I am not a Nordicist. I believe Europeans are Europeans. And all White Europeans are equal.

Attempting to say only "Germanics" are white is just a jewish game to divide the white race.
Poodleonia
06-08-2004, 08:50
ok damn why dont we just move all the whites in the world to the u.s and then take over 75% of the world then get 1000000000000 wips and wip the beaners and the nigers to the other side and if the trie anything funny we kill them :sniper:
Daroth
06-08-2004, 08:50
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud.htm#06

Sick and Insane Teachings of the Jewish Talmud
Gittin 69a. To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix it with honey and eat it.

Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy way is given.

Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.

Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."

Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.

Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.

Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.

Gittin 70a. The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic."

Toilet and excrement obsessions are laced throughout Talmud and were exhibited in Spielbergs "Schindler's List" where the Hollywood director shows a Jewish child jumping through a toilet seat in an outhouse and falling into a pool of liquefied excrement. There the child meets two other Jewish children partially immersed who inform the interloper that this cesspool is their hiding spot exclusively and that he must find his own. These are the kind of disgusting and morbid, psychotic images which Jewish kids are exposed to constantly in the cinematic liturgy of Holocaustianity and for that matter, in the Talmud as well.

Gittin 69b (p. 329). To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew should "take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog's excrement as it loosens the limbs."

Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.

Shabbath 86a-86b. Because Jews are holy they do not have sex during the day unless the house can be made dark. A Jewish scholar can have sex during the day if he uses his garment like a tent to make it dark.

Tales of a Roman Holocaust
Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.

(Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).








http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmudx.htm#Talmud Unmasked






http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud2.htm#06

Article I. - Harm must be done to Christians
A Jew is commanded to harm Christians wherever he can, both indirectly by not helping them in any way, and also directly by wrecking their plans and projects; neither must he save a Christian who is in danger of death.

I. Good must not be done to Christians
In Zohar (1, 25b) it says:
"Those who do good to the Akum . . . will not rise from the dead."
At times it is permitted to do good to Christians, but only in order to help Israel, namely, for the sake of peace and to hide hatred of them. Maimonides in Hilkhoth Akum (X, 6) says:
"Needy Gentiles may be helped as well as needy Jews, for the sake of peace..."
In Iore Dea (148, 12 Hagah) it says:
"Therefore if you enter a town and find them celebrating a feast, you may pretend to rejoice with them in order to hide your hatred. Those, however, who care about the salvation of their souls should keep away from such celebrations. You should make it known that it is a hateful thing to rejoice with them, if you can do so without incurring enmity."

1. IT IS NOT PERMITTED TO PRAISE A CHRISTIAN
In Abhodah Zarah (20, a, Toseph) it says:
"Do not say anything in praise of them, lest it be said: How good that Goi is!"
In this way they explain the words of Deuteronomy (VII, 2) ... and thou shalt show no mercy unto them [Goim], as cited in the Gemarah. Rabbi S. Iarchi explains this Bible passage as follows:
"Do not pay them any compliments; for it is forbidden to say: how good that Goi is."
In Iore Dea (151, 14) it says:
"No one is allowed to praise them or to say how good an Akum is. How much less to praise what they do or to recount anything about them which would redound to their glory. If, however, while praising them you intend to give glory to God, namely, because he has created comely creatures, then it is allowed to do so."

2. A JEW NOT ALLOWED TO MENTION THE THINGS WHICH CHRISTIANS USE FOR THEIR IDOLATROUS WORSHIP
In Hilkhoth Akum (V, 12) it says:
"It is also forbidden to make mention of the Akum; for it is written (Exodus XXIII, 13):...and make no mention of other gods."

Oh no there going to take over. what ever shall we do!!! (idiot)
If there are any people of the jewish faith here, watch out, this guy knows your secret!!! (big idiot)
Scencilia
06-08-2004, 08:50
Eh, there's better fiction out there.

Try this one book called the Bible. Good stuff, but a bit over the top for me.

The only problem with the bible is there is too much hate, voilence and lust in it, I would much rather have love and romance, peace and happyness......Oh and a hot black girl that likes crackers.
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 08:50
The Jews seem like a very human people, whereas the Christians (of which I am, sort of) think they are some sort of superhuman race. It gets on my nerves. A priest who has sex with a child will go to hell as soon as a rabbi who has sex with a child, if I follow your logic that God is unforgiving. Personally, I believe that God would forgive anyone for their sins as long as they worked for that forgiveness. A good Rabbi would tell you that apologizing, and asking forgiveness is only the beginning. You have to work here on Earth, and truly seek forgiveness. Also, many of my Christian teachers and friends hold great respect for Jewish thought. It seems that you only look for things that would seem bad on first look. You have to remember many of these laws are thousands of years old. Also, you speak only from a christain viewpoint.
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:50
Biblebelievers is full of shit. Take a look at http://groups.msn.com/Mishpocha/thetalmudpart1.msnw and http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/



Typical liar, doing as Talmud commands you, "Oy vey! The goyim are reading our books, they will know how we hate them so! We must lie and tell them our books say nothing against them!"
Daroth
06-08-2004, 08:52
No I am not a Nordicist. I believe Europeans are Europeans. And all White Europeans are equal.

Attempting to say only "Germanics" are white is just a jewish game to divide the white race.

no it is not you fool. Most jewish people would fall into the catergory of slavic. which is eastern european.

Also what is a Nordicist? not familiar with the term
Goed
06-08-2004, 08:52
Typical liar, doing as Talmud commands you, "Oy vey! The goyim are reading our books, they will know how we hate them so! We must lie and tell them our books say nothing against them!"

"YOU'RE EVIL!"

"No I'm not, and I can prove it."

"But you're EVIL, so NONE of your proof COUNTS! HA!"


This is the equivalient to shoving your fingers into your ears and yelling "I'm not listening! I'm not listening! LALALALALALLALALA I can't hear you!"
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 08:52
The only problem with the bible is there is too much hate, voilence and lust in it, I would much rather have love and romance, peace and happyness......Oh and a hot black girl that likes crackers.

A man after my own heart. Black girls who would take a white guy. Loooove black girls. There's just something else about them. Jimi Hendrix said it best 'foxey.'
Poodleonia
06-08-2004, 08:52
or we can kill them :sniper:
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:53
no it is not you fool. Most jewish people would fall into the catergory of slavic. which is eastern european.

Also what is a Nordicist? not familiar with the term


Nordicist means somebody who believes the only right whites are the "Germanic" type, very rare in the white power movement today, but there are some.

Also jews are oriental and negro combined wth semitic blood. They're basically Khazars.
QahJoh
06-08-2004, 08:53
No I am not a Nordicist. I believe Europeans are Europeans. And all White Europeans are equal.

Attempting to say only "Germanics" are white is just a jewish game to divide the white race.

A Jewish game? Well, anything better's than that fucking dreidel.
Goed
06-08-2004, 08:54
Nordicist means somebody who believes the only right whites are the "Germanic" type, very rare in the white power movement today, but there are some.

Also jews are oriental and negro combined wth semitic blood. They're basically Khazars.

SO are you saying that Jesus was inferior?

<SHOCK! AWE! GASP!>
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 08:54
or we can kill them :sniper:

Kill who?
Poodleonia
06-08-2004, 08:55
i'm still gona kill them :mp5:
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:55
"YOU'RE EVIL!"

"No I'm not, and I can prove it."

"But you're EVIL, so NONE of your proof COUNTS! HA!"


This is the equivalient to shoving your fingers into your ears and yelling "I'm not listening! I'm not listening! LALALALALALLALALA I can't hear you!"


"One should and must make false oath, when the goys ask if our books contain anything against them. Then we are bound to state on oath that there in nothing like that." (Szaalot-Utszabot. The book of Jorre d'a, 17.)



goy (goi) n., pl. goy·im (goi“¹m) or goys. Offensive. Used as a disparaging term for one who is not a Jew. [Yiddish, from Hebrew gôy, nation, one who is not Jewish, non-Jew, Jew ignorant of the Jewish religion.] --goy“ish adj.
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:55
SO are you saying that Jesus was inferior?

<SHOCK! AWE! GASP!>


Christ was a white anglo-saxon.


The old testament jews were white anglo-saxons.

The people today who claim to be jews (modern jews) are the spawn of satan.


John 8:44
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 08:56
"One should and must make false oath, when the goys ask if our books contain anything against them. Then we are bound to state on oath that there in nothing like that." (Szaalot-Utszabot. The book of Jorre d'a, 17.)



goy (goi) n., pl. goy·im (goi“¹m) or goys. Offensive. Used as a disparaging term for one who is not a Jew. [Yiddish, from Hebrew gôy, nation, one who is not Jewish, non-Jew, Jew ignorant of the Jewish religion.] --goy“ish adj.

So, can I call you a goy now, as well as an anti-semitic racist/fascist/nazi? It certainly rolls off the tongue better.
Poodleonia
06-08-2004, 08:57
ok look we move all the wights into america then take over 75% of the world then get 100000000000000 wips and wip the beaners and nigers to the other side and if they trie anything funny we kill them :mp5:
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:57
Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. 44You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. 45But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. 46Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? 47He who is of God hears God's words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God."

48 Then the Jews answered and said to Him, "Do we not say rightly that You are a Samaritan and have a demon?"
49Jesus answered, "I do not have a demon; but I honor My Father, and you dishonor Me. 50And I do not seek My own glory; there is One who seeks and judges. 51Most assuredly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he shall never see death."
Daroth
06-08-2004, 08:57
Nordicist means somebody who believes the only right whites are the "Germanic" type, very rare in the white power movement today, but there are some.

Also jews are oriental and negro combined wth semitic blood. They're basically Khazars.

Slavic, Kazars are you refer to them was not a race. It consisted of hungarians, russians, ukranians.

And if you say your a "nordicist" then you don't think white is white. Eastern europe is slavic not germanic. Ireland, scotland, wales, switzerland is celtic, not germanic. The mediterraneans are a mix of germanic/arab/greek/slavic/latin.
Goed
06-08-2004, 08:57
Christ was a white anglo-saxon.

Now I've heard everything.

Prove he was white anglo-saxon. He was a galelaen (or however the hell you spell it). Hint bloody hint, that means he wasn't white.


Oh please, PLEASE don'st start talking about Eve having sex with demons and making Cain and whatnot. I've already heard that thero-well, let's be honest, it's just plain idiocy.
QahJoh
06-08-2004, 08:58
Typical liar, doing as Talmud commands you, "Oy vey! The goyim are reading our books, they will know how we hate them so! We must lie and tell them our books say nothing against them!"

Wrong, dipshit. The Talmud does indeed contain SOME things which I could see modern Christians finding somewhat disrespectful. However, it also contains some things that plenty of JEWS might dislike, too (such as the Orthodox position on women's rights).

The Talmud is a conversation with thousands of rabbis through the centuries. There are MANY different points of view within it.

Plus, I'd be interested in asking if you actually know ANYTHING about the Talmud. Aside from what you read on biblebelievers, of course.

Also jews are oriental and negro combined wth semitic blood. They're basically Khazars.

Also wrong. The Khazars were one group, related to the Turks, of which SOME (probably only the upper-class nobility) converted to Judaism. To say that the bulk of modern Jews are Khazars is to show a profound ignorance of Jewish history.

Mazel Tov.
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 08:59
Now I've heard everything.

Prove he was white anglo-saxon. He was a galelaen (or however the hell you spell it). Hint bloody hint, that means he wasn't white.


Oh please, PLEASE don'st start talking about Eve having sex with demons and making Cain and whatnot. I've already heard that thero-well, let's be honest, it's just plain idiocy.


Cain was the product of an unholy union between Eve and Satan (Who appeared before her in the form of a negro male)

Cain wandered the earth and mated with certain animals, producing the black race. He later founded the jewish race through sex with different animals.


Abel was the son of Adam and Eve, a true child of Light, and the founder of the White European Race!
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 08:59
Christ was a white anglo-saxon.


The old testament jews were white anglo-saxons.

The people today who claim to be jews (modern jews) are the spawn of satan.


John 8:44

You talk about the bible alot. What about the three books you left out? Including the gospels of Thomas (who was not a doubter, that was slander to discredit him) and Mary Magdalene (Who was not a whore, but a wealthy Jewish aristocat. No evidence has been found to prove that she was a whore, and nothing would lead anyone to believe she was.) I think if you knew the whole story of the Catholic church, then you would not believe most oft he things that are coming out of your mouth.
Goed
06-08-2004, 09:00
Cain was the product of an unholy union between Eve and Satan (Who appeared before her in the form of a negro male)

Cain wandered the earth and mated with certain animals, producing the black race. He later founded the jewish race through sex with different animals.


Abel was the son of Adam and Eve, a true child of Light, and the founder of the White European Race!


Ooooooooh, you're one of THOSE types! We had one of them before. Anyone remember FWS?


So, does God come to you in your dreams and tell you to lead a revolution?
Daroth
06-08-2004, 09:01
Christ was a white anglo-saxon.


The old testament jews were white anglo-saxons.

The people today who claim to be jews (modern jews) are the spawn of satan.


John 8:44

THAT'S AMAZING. Your saying that 2 groups of germanic tribes came together thousands of years ago in jerusalem. waited to jesus was born then starting moving towards norther germany and england. wow I mean wow. I never knew
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 09:01
Ooooooooh, you're one of THOSE types! We had one of them before. Anyone remember FWS?


So, does God come to you in your dreams and tell you to lead a revolution?

God has not spoken to man since I believe the time of Exodus. He speaks through angels today.
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 09:01
Wrong, dipshit. The Talmud does indeed contain SOME things which I could see modern Christians finding somewhat disrespectful. However, it also contains some things that plenty of JEWS might dislike, too (such as the Orthodox position on women's rights).

The Talmud is a conversation with thousands of rabbis through the centuries. There are MANY different points of view within it.

Plus, I'd be interested in asking if you actually know ANYTHING about the Talmud. Aside from what you read on biblebelievers, of course.



Also wrong. The Khazars were one group, related to the Turks, of which SOME (probably only the upper-class nobility) converted to Judaism. To say that the bulk of modern Jews are Khazars is to show a profound ignorance of Jewish history.

Mazel Tov.

Absolutely correct. The Talmud is a discussion, showing the evolution of thought. Much more interesting and Insightful than the New Testament.
Goed
06-08-2004, 09:02
God has not spoken to man since I believe the time of Exodus. He speaks through angels today.

I'm sorry, has an ANGEL come to you and told you to lead a revolution?

You know, we used to have a guy here a lot like you. I'd bet you two know each other. He had visions about this kinda stuff. I'm just wonder if you arn't also medically insane. I mean, if you have visions.
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 09:02
http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/jewish_sacrifice.htm


The History of Jewish Human Sacrifice

By
Willie Martin



At the dawn of civilization, the blood rite, in which human blood is drunk from the body of a still-living victim, was known to many tribes. However, only one people, that has never progressed beyond the Stone Age, has continued to practice the blood rite and ritual murder. This people are know to the world as Jews. Arnold Toynbee, a noted scholar, has called the Jews "a fossil people."

In so doing, he must have been aware of the fact that they still practice ritual murder and the drinking of human blood (especially Christian blood). As a scholar, he could not have failed to note the many attested incidents of this practice of the Jews, for hundreds of example of ritual murder by the Jews are cited in official Catholic books, in every European literature, and in the court records of all the European nations.

It is the official historian of the Jews, (Josef Kastein, in his History of the Jews, who gives the underlying reason for this barbaric custom. On page 173, he says, "According to the primeval Jewish view, the blood was the seat of the soul."

Thus it was not the heart which was the seat of the soul, according to the stone-age Jews, but the blood itself. They believed that by drinking the blood of a Christian victim who was perfect in every way, they could overcome their physical short comings and become as powerful as the intelligent civilized beings among whom they had formed their parasitic communities. Because of this belief, the Jews are known to have practiced drinking blood since they made their first appearance in history.

Jewish Murder Plan Against White Christians Exposed

The Murderous People: The Jews are under a terrible suspicion the world over, and for good reason. Anyone who does not know this, does not understand the Jewish problem. Anyone who merely see the Jews as "a tribe which secures its existence with exchange and old trousers, and whose uniforms are the long noses," is being misled. But anyone who knows the monstrous accusation which has been raised against the jews since the beginning of time, will view these people in a different light. He will begin to see not only a peculiar, strangely fascinating nation; but criminals, murderers, and devils in human form. He will be filled with holy anger and hatred against these people of Satan. (John 8:44)

The suspicion under which the Jews are held is murder. They are charged with enticing White Christian Children (and sometimes blacks to keep them under control - and if necessary they will run black children down in the streets with automobiles to show the blacks their power, and that the blacks had better mind their manners or the same will happen again and again. We all witnessed this a few years ago in New York city when the car of Rabbi Shneerson ran over a black child. And as usual the Jews bought off the blacks who were inciting the mobs against them; if they had been unsuccessful in this they would have had the blacks who dared not be controlled murdered) and at time White Christian adults, butchering them, and draining their blood. They are charged with mixing this blood into their masses (unleaven bread) and using it to practice superstitious magic. They are charged with torturing their victims, especially the children; and during this torture they shout threats, curses, and cast spells against non-Jews. This systematic murder has a special name, it is called,

Ritual Murder

The knowledge of Jewish ritual murder is thousands of years old. It is as old as the Jews themselves. Non-Jews have passed the knowledge of it from generation to generation, and it has been passed down to us thorough writings. It is known of throughout the nation. Knowledge of ritual murder can be found in even the most secluded rural villages. The grand-father told his grand children, who passed it on to his children, and his children's children, until we have inherited the knowledge today from them.

It is also befalling other nations. The accusation is loudly raised immediately, anywhere in te world, where a body is found which bears the marks of ritual murder. This accusation is raised only against the Jews. Hundreds and hundreds of nations, tribes, and races live on this earth, but no one ever thought to accuse them of the planned murdering of children, or to call them murderers. All nations have hurled this accusation only against the Jews.

And many great men have raised such an accusation. Martin Luther wrote in his book "Of The Jews And Their Lies:"

"They stabbed and pierced the body of the young boy Simon of Trent. They have also murdered other children...The sun never did shine on a more bloodthirsty and revengeful people as they who imagine to be the people of God, and who desire to and think they must murder and crush the heathen. Jesus Christ, the Almighty Preacher from Nazareth, spoke to the Jews: ? Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning..."


"He (Martin Luther) accused them (the Jews) of all those fictitious crimes which had made Europe such a hell for them. He, too, claimed that they poisoned the wells used by Christians, assassinated their Christian patients, and murdered Christian children to procure blood for the Passover. He called on the princes and rulers to persecute them mercilessly, and commanded the preachers to set the mobs on them. He declared that if the power were his, he would take all the leaders of the Jews and tear their tongues out by the roots." (Stranger than Fiction, p. 249)

The Struggle of Der Sturmer: The only newspaper in Germany, yes, in the entire world, which often screamed the accusation of ritual murder into the Jewish face, was Der Sturmer. For more than ten yeas Der Sturmer led a gigantic battle against Judaism. Which caused Der Sturmer to be under constant attack by the Jews. Dozens of times it has been confiscated and prohibited.

Its workers, most of all its editor Julius Streicher, were dragged into court hundreds of times. They were convicted, punished and locked into prison. Der Sturmer came to know the Jew from the confession which Dr. Conrad Alberti-Sittenfeld, a Jew, wrote in 1899 in No. 12 of the magazine Gesellschaft:

"One of the most dangerous Jewish qualities is the brutal, direct barbaric intolerance. A worse tyranny cannot be practiced than that which the Jewish clique practices. If you try to move against this Jewish clique, they will, without hesitating, use brutal methods to overcome you. Mainly the Jew tries to destroy his enemy in the mental area, by which he takes his material gain away, and undermines his civil existence. The vilest of all forms of retaliation, the boycott, is characteristically Jewish."

The Der Sturmer was not stopped for several years. Just in Nuremberg alone there have been fought dozens of Talmudic and ritual murder cases in the courts. (Now you know why the Nuremberg trials were held against the German Military leaders, it was retribution by the Jews on their hated enemies the Germans). Because of the Jewish protests the attention of the world was focused on these cases. Thereafter heavy convictions followed. At first no judge had the courage to expose the Jewish problem. Finally in 1932 (court case lasting from October 30th to November 4th) Der Sturmer won its first victory. The jury found the following:

1). Der Sturmer was not fighting against the Jewish religion; but against the Jewish people.
2). The Talmud and Schulchan aruch are not religious books. They have no right to be protected under the religious paragraphs.
3). The laws of the Talmud which are quoted and published in Der Sturmer are exact quotations from the Talmud.
4). The laws of the Talmud are in harsh contradiction to German morals.
5). The Jews of today are being taught from the Talmud.
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 09:03
I'm sorry, has an ANGEL come to you and told you to lead a revolution?

You know, we used to have a guy here a lot like you. I'd bet you two know each other. He had visions about this kinda stuff. I'm just wonder if you arn't also medically insane. I mean, if you have visions.


Yahweh speaks to me through the bible!
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 09:04
http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/jewish_sacrifice.htm


The History of Jewish Human Sacrifice

By
Willie Martin



At the dawn of civilization, the blood rite, in which human blood is drunk from the body of a still-living victim, was known to many tribes. However, only one people, that has never progressed beyond the Stone Age, has continued to practice the blood rite and ritual murder. This people are know to the world as Jews. Arnold Toynbee, a noted scholar, has called the Jews "a fossil people."

In so doing, he must have been aware of the fact that they still practice ritual murder and the drinking of human blood (especially Christian blood). As a scholar, he could not have failed to note the many attested incidents of this practice of the Jews, for hundreds of example of ritual murder by the Jews are cited in official Catholic books, in every European literature, and in the court records of all the European nations.

It is the official historian of the Jews, (Josef Kastein, in his History of the Jews, who gives the underlying reason for this barbaric custom. On page 173, he says, "According to the primeval Jewish view, the blood was the seat of the soul."

Thus it was not the heart which was the seat of the soul, according to the stone-age Jews, but the blood itself. They believed that by drinking the blood of a Christian victim who was perfect in every way, they could overcome their physical short comings and become as powerful as the intelligent civilized beings among whom they had formed their parasitic communities. Because of this belief, the Jews are known to have practiced drinking blood since they made their first appearance in history.

Jewish Murder Plan Against White Christians Exposed

The Murderous People: The Jews are under a terrible suspicion the world over, and for good reason. Anyone who does not know this, does not understand the Jewish problem. Anyone who merely see the Jews as "a tribe which secures its existence with exchange and old trousers, and whose uniforms are the long noses," is being misled. But anyone who knows the monstrous accusation which has been raised against the jews since the beginning of time, will view these people in a different light. He will begin to see not only a peculiar, strangely fascinating nation; but criminals, murderers, and devils in human form. He will be filled with holy anger and hatred against these people of Satan. (John 8:44)

The suspicion under which the Jews are held is murder. They are charged with enticing White Christian Children (and sometimes blacks to keep them under control - and if necessary they will run black children down in the streets with automobiles to show the blacks their power, and that the blacks had better mind their manners or the same will happen again and again. We all witnessed this a few years ago in New York city when the car of Rabbi Shneerson ran over a black child. And as usual the Jews bought off the blacks who were inciting the mobs against them; if they had been unsuccessful in this they would have had the blacks who dared not be controlled murdered) and at time White Christian adults, butchering them, and draining their blood. They are charged with mixing this blood into their masses (unleaven bread) and using it to practice superstitious magic. They are charged with torturing their victims, especially the children; and during this torture they shout threats, curses, and cast spells against non-Jews. This systematic murder has a special name, it is called,

Ritual Murder

The knowledge of Jewish ritual murder is thousands of years old. It is as old as the Jews themselves. Non-Jews have passed the knowledge of it from generation to generation, and it has been passed down to us thorough writings. It is known of throughout the nation. Knowledge of ritual murder can be found in even the most secluded rural villages. The grand-father told his grand children, who passed it on to his children, and his children's children, until we have inherited the knowledge today from them.

It is also befalling other nations. The accusation is loudly raised immediately, anywhere in te world, where a body is found which bears the marks of ritual murder. This accusation is raised only against the Jews. Hundreds and hundreds of nations, tribes, and races live on this earth, but no one ever thought to accuse them of the planned murdering of children, or to call them murderers. All nations have hurled this accusation only against the Jews.

And many great men have raised such an accusation. Martin Luther wrote in his book "Of The Jews And Their Lies:"

"They stabbed and pierced the body of the young boy Simon of Trent. They have also murdered other children...The sun never did shine on a more bloodthirsty and revengeful people as they who imagine to be the people of God, and who desire to and think they must murder and crush the heathen. Jesus Christ, the Almighty Preacher from Nazareth, spoke to the Jews: ? Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning..."


"He (Martin Luther) accused them (the Jews) of all those fictitious crimes which had made Europe such a hell for them. He, too, claimed that they poisoned the wells used by Christians, assassinated their Christian patients, and murdered Christian children to procure blood for the Passover. He called on the princes and rulers to persecute them mercilessly, and commanded the preachers to set the mobs on them. He declared that if the power were his, he would take all the leaders of the Jews and tear their tongues out by the roots." (Stranger than Fiction, p. 249)

The Struggle of Der Sturmer: The only newspaper in Germany, yes, in the entire world, which often screamed the accusation of ritual murder into the Jewish face, was Der Sturmer. For more than ten yeas Der Sturmer led a gigantic battle against Judaism. Which caused Der Sturmer to be under constant attack by the Jews. Dozens of times it has been confiscated and prohibited.

Its workers, most of all its editor Julius Streicher, were dragged into court hundreds of times. They were convicted, punished and locked into prison. Der Sturmer came to know the Jew from the confession which Dr. Conrad Alberti-Sittenfeld, a Jew, wrote in 1899 in No. 12 of the magazine Gesellschaft:

"One of the most dangerous Jewish qualities is the brutal, direct barbaric intolerance. A worse tyranny cannot be practiced than that which the Jewish clique practices. If you try to move against this Jewish clique, they will, without hesitating, use brutal methods to overcome you. Mainly the Jew tries to destroy his enemy in the mental area, by which he takes his material gain away, and undermines his civil existence. The vilest of all forms of retaliation, the boycott, is characteristically Jewish."

The Der Sturmer was not stopped for several years. Just in Nuremberg alone there have been fought dozens of Talmudic and ritual murder cases in the courts. (Now you know why the Nuremberg trials were held against the German Military leaders, it was retribution by the Jews on their hated enemies the Germans). Because of the Jewish protests the attention of the world was focused on these cases. Thereafter heavy convictions followed. At first no judge had the courage to expose the Jewish problem. Finally in 1932 (court case lasting from October 30th to November 4th) Der Sturmer won its first victory. The jury found the following:

1). Der Sturmer was not fighting against the Jewish religion; but against the Jewish people.
2). The Talmud and Schulchan aruch are not religious books. They have no right to be protected under the religious paragraphs.
3). The laws of the Talmud which are quoted and published in Der Sturmer are exact quotations from the Talmud.
4). The laws of the Talmud are in harsh contradiction to German morals.
5). The Jews of today are being taught from the Talmud.


I doubt anyone is reading your obscenely long, repetitive posts quoting Nazi literature. You can save yourself the effort.
Daroth
06-08-2004, 09:04
Wrong, dipshit. The Talmud does indeed contain SOME things which I could see modern Christians finding somewhat disrespectful. However, it also contains some things that plenty of JEWS might dislike, too (such as the Orthodox position on women's rights).

The Talmud is a conversation with thousands of rabbis through the centuries. There are MANY different points of view within it.

Plus, I'd be interested in asking if you actually know ANYTHING about the Talmud. Aside from what you read on biblebelievers, of course.



Also wrong. The Khazars were one group, related to the Turks, of which SOME (probably only the upper-class nobility) converted to Judaism. To say that the bulk of modern Jews are Khazars is to show a profound ignorance of Jewish history.

Mazel Tov.

Your absolutely right! except for the last point. Most people of the jewish faith these days did originate from the Kazar region
QahJoh
06-08-2004, 09:05
"One should and must make false oath, when the goys ask if our books contain anything against them. Then we are bound to state on oath that there in nothing like that." (Szaalot-Utszabot. The book of Jorre d'a, 17.)

I've already shown you this is a false quote.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/Response1.html

CLAIM
"Every goy who studies the Talmud and every Jew who who helps him in it, ought to die." - Sanhedryn, 59a, Aboda Zora 8-6, Szagiga

RESPONSE
The quote from Sanhedrin does say that a gentile may not study torah but the other sources do not exist. There is no practical death penalty for this offense the penalty stated is only a term of speech stated in order to indicate the severity of the sin. A gentile may study the laws regarding the 7 Noahide commandments as stated ibid. and he will merit great everlasting bliss for this, however he may not study the laws of Judaism. The basic reason for prohibiting the study of Torah is because it is a special covenant between G-d and his chosen people, any one who is not affiliated with the chosen people is regarded a thief. Rashi ibid. E.S.

CLAIM
"To communicate anything to a goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if they knew what we teach about them they would kill us openly." - Libbre David 37.

RESPONSE
Total balderdash, there is no such statement at all, and there is no such book. E.S.

CLAIM
"If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death." Libbre David 37.

RESPONSE
As explained above, there is no such book.

CLAIM
"A Jew should and must make a false oath when the goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."-Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17.

RESPONSE
This is a forgery. The word "Sehelot Uteshubot" means Talmudic responsa, there is no such book at all. Besides, there is nothing in the Torah which may cause disturbance to a gentile. What can have been written is that one may take an oath that there is nothing against gentiles in Jewish law as it is a true oath. E.S.

Cain was the product of an unholy union between Eve and Satan (Who appeared before her in the form of a negro male)

Cain wandered the earth and mated with certain animals, producing the black race. He later founded the jewish race through sex with different animals.

Abel was the son of Adam and Eve, a true child of Light, and the founder of the White European Race!

Um, the Bible says Abel was killed before he had children, numnutz.

How about offering some proof for your assertions? Also, what's your proof for saying Christ was Anglo-Saxon? The Bible seems pretty clear that he was Jewish, and from Nazareth (or Galilee). Even a white supremacist should know that's quite a ways from the British Isles.
Goed
06-08-2004, 09:06
Yahweh speaks to me through the bible!


Ahhhhh, so you ARN'T as bad as FWS. Still, that's not saying much. Yeah, he had visions of leading a revolution and going to south africa or some such nonesense. Then he got DEATed, and nobody ever haerd from him again. Which is probebly your fate.

OH NO, I'm telling the future! I'm going to hell now!


PS: you're religions a crock of shit
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 09:07
Ahhhhh, so you ARN'T as bad as FWS. Still, that's not saying much. Yeah, he had visions of leading a revolution and going to south africa or some such nonesense. Then he got DEATed, and nobody ever haerd from him again. Which is probebly your fate.

OH NO, I'm telling the future! I'm going to hell now!


PS: you're religions a crock of shit

Was FWS this active in General, as well? I never had the 'pleasure' of encountering his madness. Actually, he was deleted the day I joined. Funny how things work out.
QahJoh
06-08-2004, 09:08
Your absolutely right! except for the last point. Most people of the jewish faith these days did originate from the Kazar region

Not really. It's still an unresolved question as to how many Khazars actually converted. Plus, the Cohanim DNA test seems to show common DNA links between Ashkenazim and Sephardim- links that wouldn't be present if the Ashkenazim were mostly converted Khazars.

http://www.aish.com/societywork/sciencenature/the_cohanim_-_dna_connection.asp
Goed
06-08-2004, 09:09
Was FWS this active in General, as well? I never had the 'pleasure' of encountering his madness. Actually, he was deleted the day I joined. Funny how things work out.

He was pretty active. ALso, from what I heard, he was one hell of an RPer
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 09:09
I've already shown you this is a false quote.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/Response1.html





Um, the Bible says Abel was killed before he had children, numnutz.

How about offering some proof for your assertions? Also, what's your proof for saying Christ was Anglo-Saxon? The Bible seems pretty clear that he was Jewish, and from Nazareth (or Galilee). Even a white supremacist should know that's quite a ways from the British Isles.


Oh course you'll say that you're not required to lie as the Talmud says you are. You're doing it what it says by lying about not being required to lie!


We cannot trust a liar when he says "I'm not lying".
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 09:10
He was pretty active. ALso, from what I heard, he was one hell of an RPer

He was good, but his godmoding was what killed him. That and our friend AMF.
Daroth
06-08-2004, 09:11
I doubt anyone is reading your obscenely long, repetitive posts quoting Nazi literature. You can save yourself the effort.

actually i tried.
Hurt my head hitting the keyboard. Sorry decisive fell asleep
QahJoh
06-08-2004, 09:12
Oh course you'll say that you're not required to lie as the Talmud says you are. You're doing it what it says by lying about not being required to lie!

We cannot trust a liar when he says "I'm not lying".

But you have yet to prove that I'm lying. You're taking some fuckwad's word for it and disregarding the evidence I've presented. How about doing some independent research yourself? The Talmud has been translated into English. Why not go to a library and look it up, if you actually care and aren't just an antisemitic parrot, willing to blindly accept what any douchebag says as long as it furthers your own agenda?
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 09:12
Oh course you'll say that you're not required to lie as the Talmud says you are. You're doing it what it says by lying about not being required to lie!


We cannot trust a liar when he says "I'm not lying".

Now that doesn't even make sense. i think your babbling my friend. You know what you need? A nice, beautiful girl of a different race. She'd take good care of you.
Kaziganthis
06-08-2004, 09:13
Judging purely by my physical responses:
1.Asian
2.Mixed of just about all kinds
3.White

All that aside, I can be just as attracted to just about any nationality. The list above is mostly for the chances of me being attracted to a certain nationality.
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 09:14
Have you ever been with a black girl before, DA. You have no idea of what you're missing. You probably know you'd like it, and that's what scares you. Then you'd lose all your Nazi buddies, and have to come hang out with us.
Goed
06-08-2004, 09:15
Oh course you'll say that you're not required to lie as the Talmud says you are. You're doing it what it says by lying about not being required to lie!


We cannot trust a liar when he says "I'm not lying".

Look out Rumsfield-someone's onto your version of the english language!
Daroth
06-08-2004, 09:15
Not really. It's still an unresolved question as to how many Khazars actually converted. Plus, the Cohanim DNA test seems to show common DNA links between Ashkenazim and Sephardim- links that wouldn't be present if the Ashkenazim were mostly converted Khazars.

http://www.aish.com/societywork/sciencenature/the_cohanim_-_dna_connection.asp

err... a few unfamiliar terms words there...
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 09:16
Have you ever been with a black girl before, DA. You have no idea of what you're missing. You probably know you'd like it, and that's what scares you. Then you'd lose all your Nazi buddies, and have to come hang out with us.


I'd rather rather hang with the klan than hang with you. You know what they say, "Once you go black, we don't want you back."


And no! I don't "secretly want a darkie", so stop with that line also.
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 09:17
Now that doesn't even make sense. i think your babbling my friend. You know what you need? A nice, beautiful girl of a different race. She'd take good care of you.


No! I want a white woman, not some welfare case black crack hoe who has more VD than a US aircraft carrier!
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 09:18
But you have yet to prove that I'm lying. You're taking some fuckwad's word for it and disregarding the evidence I've presented. How about doing some independent research yourself? The Talmud has been translated into English. Why not go to a library and look it up, if you actually care and aren't just an antisemitic parrot, willing to blindly accept what any douchebag says as long as it furthers your own agenda?



The jewish done translations are lies!

You're required to lie!

You're going to lie!

I won't believe you when you say, "I don't lie"

Your books require you to lie!
Daroth
06-08-2004, 09:18
Oh course you'll say that you're not required to lie as the Talmud says you are. You're doing it what it says by lying about not being required to lie!


We cannot trust a liar when he says "I'm not lying".

OMG I've worked it out! Then you are jewish! Your jsut going against it to boost simpathy for them! Don't try and deny it! you'll say your not as you'll do what it says by lying.
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 09:20
The jewish done translations are lies!

You're required to lie!

You're going to lie!

I won't believe you when you say, "I don't lie"

Your books require you to lie!

I havn't read the books. I suppose I don't know I'm supposed to lie then, so logically I must be telling the truth. And yes, you do 'secretly want a darkie.' Everyone does, deep down. It's only natural to want to experiment. Don't hide your love for black girls, DA.
Goed
06-08-2004, 09:21
The jewish done translations are lies!

You're required to lie!

You're going to lie!

I won't believe you when you say, "I don't lie"

Your books require you to lie!

SO let me get this logic straight.

They lie. How do we know? Because they say they arn't, and they're liars. And we KNOW that they're liars, because they say they arn't and they're obviously liars.

http://www.wackyweaselworld.com/flameINC/images/FU10.jpg
Goed
06-08-2004, 09:21
I havn't read the books. I suppose I don't know I'm supposed to lie then, so logically I must be telling the truth. And yes, you do 'secretly want a darkie.' Everyone does, deep down. It's only natural to want to experiment. Don't hide your love for black girls, DA.

Eh, I'm not too into black girls, to be honest. Gimmie a latino or asian any day of the week :p
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 09:22
I havn't read the books. I suppose I don't know I'm supposed to lie then, so logically I must be telling the truth. And yes, you do 'secretly want a darkie.' Everyone does, deep down. It's only natural to want to experiment. Don't hide your love for black girls, DA.


Why don't you experiment with taking a long walk off a short pier. Filth!
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 09:22
SO let me get this logic straight.

They lie. How do we know? Because they say they arn't, and they're liars. And we KNOW that they're liars, because they say they arn't and they're obviously liars.

http://www.wackyweaselworld.com/flameINC/images/FU10.jpg

amen to that. Aspirin's what we all need after this argument. That or some vicadent.
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 09:23
Eh, I'm not too into black girls, to be honest. Gimmie a latino or asian any day of the week :p

Im just trying to get him riled. It's not everyone's preference. Go with what suits you.
QahJoh
06-08-2004, 09:23
The jewish done translations are lies!

You're required to lie!

You're going to lie!

I won't believe you when you say, "I don't lie"

Your books require you to lie!

Hang on a second... you won't believe me when I say "I don't lie", because someone told you that the Talmud says to lie.

... And yet, how do you know that the person who told you this isn't lying to you? I doubt many white supremacists have bothered to learn Aramaic to read the Talmud in the original. One would therefore logically conclude that they used the English translation to find these quotes, correct?

If it's good enough for these assholes to condemn it, why isn't it good enough for you?
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 09:24
Hang on a second... you won't believe me when I say "I don't lie", because someone told you that the Talmud says to lie.

... And yet, how do you know that the person who told you this isn't lying to you? I doubt many white supremacists have bothered to learn Aramaic to read the Talmud in the original. One would therefore logically conclude that they used the English translation to find these quotes, correct?

If it's good enough for these assholes to condemn it, why isn't it good enough for you?


Begone liar!
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 09:25
Begone liar!

Do you even have an argument?
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 09:26
Do you even have an argument?


I'm done talking to jewish liars. As Hal Turner always said, "Jews are not welcome to call my show, I don't want to talk to them."
Goed
06-08-2004, 09:28
Begone liar!

http://www.wackyweaselworld.com/flameINC/images/MISC61.jpg
QahJoh
06-08-2004, 09:30
Not that DA will care, but someone with half a brain might:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/True_quotes.html

Here is a brief survey of the Talmudic treatment of non-Jews.

1. "They said of Rabbi Yochanan ben Zakai that no man ever greeted him first, even idol worshippers in the market" [i.e., Rabbi Yochanan ben Zakai was the first to greet every person, even idol worshippers] (Berachot 17).

At the same location the sage Abaye advocated soft speech and words of peace to everyone, especially including idol worshippers.

2. "[it is proper to] support the idol worshippers during the sabbatical year …. and to inquire after their welfare [commentators: even on the days of the holidays of their idols, even if they do not keep the seven Noahide commandments] because of the ways of peace." (Shevi'it 4,3)

3. The rabbis taught: 'We support poor Gentiles with the poor people of Israel, and we visit sick Gentiles as well as the sick of Israel and we bury the dead of the Gentiles as well as the dead of Israel, because of the ways of peace." (Gitin 61a)

4. The Talmud contains many references to righteous gentiles whose behaviour is held up as a model for all people. The example of Dama ben Netina is known to all Jewish children (Kidushin 31a):

'They asked R. Eliezer how far one should go in honoring parents. He said to them: Go and see how one idol worshipper in Ashdod honored his father, and Dama ben Netina was his name. The sages wished to purchase gems from him for the Ephod [for a tremendous profit] … but the key [to the box containing the gems] was under his father's pillow [while his father was sleeping] and he did not trouble his father .' Dama was rewarded for his virtue the next year when a red heifer [required for the Temple service] was born in his flock. When he sold it to the sages he told them that he knew that they would pay any price he asked for it, but he asked only for the amount he had not earned the previous year when he refrained from waking his father.

5. Another example of righteous gentiles whose behaviour is held up as a model is to be found in the story of the King of Katsia and his subjects.

One of his subjects purchased a ruin from his neighbor and found a treasure in it. He insisted on giving it back to his neighbor, claiming he had purchased only the ruin, and not a treasure. His neighbor refused to take it, insisting that he had sold the ruin and everything in it. The two litigants came to the King to decide the issue. When the King discovered that one neighbor had a son and the other one had a daughter he ruled that the children should marry and share the treasure. It is related that Alexander of Macedonia saw this judgement and was amazed by it. He told the King of Katsia that in his country the two neighbors would be executed (since in his land found treasure had to be delivered to the King at the pain of death). The King of Katsia is reported to have asked Alexander if the rain fell and the sun shone and if there were animals in the land of Alexander. When Alexander answered affirmatively the King of Katsia told him that the sun shone and the rain fell in the merit of the animals, not the people of his land. (Gen R 33 - further sources are referenced at this location).

6. Baba Kama 38a: "But we learned: R. Meir says - whence do we learn that [b]a gentile who is occupied in the Torah [the reference is to those commandments which apply to gentiles] is like the High Priest? As it says [a proof text is given]…."

7. Kidushin 32 contains descriptions of the manner in which our sages honored and respected the elderly. The passage specifically refers to elderly gentiles who were honored in various fashions by the sages.

8. In TY Baba Metzia there are a number of descriptions of sages going out of their way to return lost objects to gentiles (Elu Metziot).

9. Avot 3,14: "He [Rabbi Akiva] was accustomed to say: Beloved is man [commentators: the reference is to all mankind], for he was created in G-d's image .."

10. Tosefta BK 10,8: ".. it is more grievous to steal from a gentile because of the desecration of G-d's name .."

11. Tosefta BM 2,11: ".. one who sees a lost donkey of an idol worshipper must take care of it exactly the way he takes care of the lost donkey of an Israelite .."

12. At Avoda Zara 18a the Talmud relates the remarkable story of how a Roman guard of one of the sages who was brutally murdered by the Romans repented. It was made known to the sages that the guard and the sage were welcomed to the World to Come together.

13. At Hullin 7a there is a report of how the sage Pinchas ben Yair miraculously split a river in order to speed his way to carry out the commandment to redeem captives. He went out of his way to split the river again in order to allow a gentile who was accompanying his group to also cross the river to speed his way.

This approach characterized sages throughout all generations. Some examples have been quoted in the earlier parts of this article. Two further examples of interest follow. Many more appear in the literature.

14. Maimonides (over 800 years ago) in Laws of the Sabbatical Year and Jubilee, Chapter 13, Halacha 13, writes .. "and not only the Tribe of Levy [merits special closeness to G-d] but every single person of those who walk the earth who ... walks straight in the manner G-d created him ... behold this person is sanctified as the Holy of Holies and [he will receive his reward in the World to Come] as the Priests and Levites."

15. Tiferet Yisrael (Boaz) (approximately 150 years ago) on Avot 3,14 writes, " ... even if our sages had not explicitly taught [that righteous Gentiles have a place in the World to Come as we learn in Sanhedrin 105 and Maimonides Chapter 8 of the Laws of Kings] we would have understood this ourselves since G-d is righteous in all His ways ... and we see many of the righteous Gentiles who not only recognize the Creator and believe in the divine origin of the Torah and also act charitably ... we will say something which is a commandment to publicize ... for behold, some of the them have done tremendous good for all mankind, such as Yenner who invented the ... which saves tens of thousands of people from disease and death and deformities ... and Draka (?) who brought the potato to Europe thus saving [people] from hunger ... and Gutenberg who invented the printing press, and
some who never received any reward in this world such as the righteous Reuchlin who risked his life [to prevent the burning of the Talmud] ... Can anyone imagine that these great deeds are not repaid in the World to Come? .."
Daroth
06-08-2004, 09:33
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He should enjoy that! him and his KKK friends
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 09:36
Not that DA will care, but someone with half a brain might:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/True_quotes.html


http://www.gentileworld.com/id300.htm


Kosher Tax



The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B'nai B'rith wrote an article called "The Kosher Tax Hoax," in which the organization alleged that the Kosher-tax paid by Gentiles on their food was, in fact, fair and not a dishonorable attempt to fleece Gentile consumers of their money. However, it is not fair, nor is it honorable. Read the following for more about this:


The ADL and the Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax: Fact and Fiction


http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=330611&group=webcast


For many Gentile consumers, it comes as a shock to realize that they pay a Jewish tax on each and every pre-packaged food item with a "U" or "K" stamp on the package, with some of these fees possibly going to support Zionists in Israel. The Union of Orthodox Jews (symbolized by the "U" within a circle) and the Circle-K (for Kashruth or, Kosher) are the two main organizations within the United States that issue Kosher-certification and its accompanying tax, though there are 273 other Kosher-certification organizations that have other symbols within the U.S. alone.(1)


The ADL (or Anti-Defamation League), an offshoot of B'nai B'rith that got its start after the Atlanta chapter head of B'nai B'rith was arrested and convicted by a jury of murdering a 12-year-old girl, Mary Phagan, in a cruel manner,(2) has long since countered Gentile resentment towards this Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax. Typically, the ADL says that such resentment towards the extra fees paid on food for the rabbis' certification is the hallmark of anti-Semites. While it stands to reason that in some isolated cases this may in fact be true, there is a growing concern among many others over these extra fees that Gentile consumers are forced to pay, particularly with the downward trend of the economy.


In an article called "The Kosher Tax Hoax," the ADL sought to allay many Gentiles' fears and concerns over the Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax. However, upon reviewing the "facts" presented by B'nai B'rith's ADL, one quickly sees that it is filled with outright lies or, at best, half-truths.


From the beginning of the ADL's article, it suggests that it is false that "only a small segment of the American population desires such markings, and that even the meanings of the labels are guarded secrets deliberately kept from non-Jews to trick them into paying the 'kosher tax.'"


If you are a typical non-Jewish reader, it is easy to see that both these statements are true, not false as the ADL claims. Have you personally desired such markings? And, if it is not a "secret" of sorts, why do they not display a symbol that makes it clear that a fee is indeed paid to a Jewish organization for Kosher certification?


Lubomyr Prytulak, a retired Canadian psychology professor, has long argued that a Star of David (or, Magen David, as it is often called) should also accompany the Kosher certification to make its meaning well known.(3) This makes sense, and it would be more fair to Gentile consumers, most of whom are unaware of the Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax. If the ADL and Jewish organizations were genuinely concerned with honesty, they would have done this long ago.


Jewish organizations do not necessarily seem to be concerned with honesty in this matter, however. In some advertisements of products bearing "K" or "U" symbols in magazines, these symbols will often actually be "hidden" or "masked off." However, when these same items are advertised in Jewish publications, these symbols might actually be larger and have an arrow pointing to them.(4) This is, of course, deceptive advertising and goes to show that there are concerns among Jews or the companies that sell these Kosher products of the meaning behind these symbols becoming known.


While the ADL suggests that the claim "only a small segment of the American population desires such markings" is an anti-Semitic lie, the truth speaks otherwise. In fact, according to the Kosher-certification agency Star-K, "Integrated Marketing Communications reports that approximately 2.5 million Jews consume kosher food products."(5) So what about the other 297.5 million people in the United States? Why are we then forced to pay for their Jewish religious dietary habits; why are we forced to pay for the Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax?


The ADL argues that "the cost to the consumer for this service is a miniscule fraction of the total production overhead; it is so negligible in practical terms as to be virtually non-existent." Is this true? I certainly would have no problems if Jews wanted to certify products as being Kosher or not at entirely their own costs.


As you might suspect, such talk by the ADL is either an outright lie on its part or, at best, deceptive. For example, the ADL report cites a "representative of the Heinz Company." This "representative" reportedly said that the cost is "so small we can't even calculate it." This Heinz "representative" also said that the extra business it received more than made up for the costs associated with the Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax. Who was this "representative"? If what he stated was true, why is his name not even given in the ADL's article for verification? Did this person even exist?


Quite to the contrary of the ADL's article, the Canadian Jewish News of March 20, 2003, has an article with an interesting headline: "Heinz Canada trims kosher product line." Many of the Canadian Heinz's products were no longer to be certified Kosher (thereby avoiding the Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax, symbolized by Canada's "COR" - Council of Orthodox Rabbis' marking), although a few products would still be kept Kosher for Jews. Apparently, according to (named) Heinz spokeswoman Anna Relyea, this was done to "keep costs down while continuing to provide [some] kosher products to our customers." The reasons--given by Heinz for the decision to cut back its on its Rabbinical Kosher Excise Taxes--were due to "how complex the manufacturing is, what the savings were and so on."(6) In any event, these costs--that were initially reported by the ADL as being "so small, we can't even calculate it"--could, in fact, be calculated and must have been significant.


Another item that seems to be deliberately distorted in the favor of the ADL is a reported "fact" given by the Birds Eye company. According to the ADL's article, General Food's Birds Eye unit paid only "6.5 millionths (.0000065) of a cent per item." It would be more interesting to know how much General Foods itself paid in real dollars altogether for the Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax, but the ADL avoids such talk for obvious reasons. But is the paltry sum of .0000065 cents per item true?


Again, this seems like a deliberately deceptive move on the ADL's part (or that of one of its members who was employed at Birds Eye). Does anyone really believe that a rabbi would fly to Birds Eye foods if he only received 6.5 cents for each $1 million of business Birds Eye did? If Birds Eye did, say, $100 million in business, that would be a paltry $6.50 in fees by the certification agency. This wouldn't even pay for the time involved, let alone travel and paperwork. So is the ADL lying? Probably not. If you'll notice, it says ".0000065 of a cent per item." I believe that Birds Eye sells corn, peas, pieces of broccoli, et cetera. In effect, the ADL's "informer" was probably meaning that every single piece of corn, every single pea, and every single bean--that is, every "item"--incur the cost of .0000065 cents. Added up, this then makes sense.


Of course, if the Jewish agency that charges the Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax would care to make available how much it charged this company in real dollars for the previous year, that would be a start to being honest. But, if you carefully examine the web, you will not find one company that has reported this fee paid to the rabbis. Why is this? From a logical standpoint, it stands to reason that the rabbis must have some type of confidentiality agreement in which if the company reveals its cost it is then penalized to a certain extent. What other reasoning could there be that not one single company discloses its costs associated with the Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax?


The ADL then goes on to cite a company that reportedly had its business increase as a result of Kosher certification. Is this true? Possibly. One must keep in mind, however, what Dr. Prytulak refers to as the "Pyramid Scheme" at his website. In effect, this is how it works: A large company is courted by Jews, who fill the company's heads with promises of a greater market appeal--but only, of course, if they pay this initially "small fee" (in comparison with the company's total business) for certification. The company agrees. However, now the company must buy all its supplies from other "Kosher companies." Aside from the obvious need to purchase food products from Kosher suppliers, a company might even have to purchase the steel for its manufacturing process and the cleaning supplies from Kosher companies, to name just a couple other items now considered Kosher. In any event, if the suppliers do not give the main company a Kosher product, the company cannot do business with them. (After all, products prepared by lowly Gentile companies do not meet the Jewish religious dietary standards as set forth by rabbis without due compensation.) In effect, if your company happens to be one of the suppliers to another company, you risk much business by failing to abide by the Jewish standards (and, of course, paying them your accompanying fees).


Is the extra business really there for companies that decide to go Kosher? Not according to some businesses. The Albuquerque Tribune reported one bagel company as wanting to be certified Kosher, but "the expense was more than the ... bagel company could muster." The owner stated, "We occasionally get asked for it but not that often." Another company decided to drop its "Star-K certification after one year." The owner of that company reported, "Kosher wasn't opening up any markets for me. I thought it was too much for my little operation."(7)


As you might expect, later in the ADL's article, it spends a significant amount of space questioning the "motives" of those who question the motives of the Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax. Since the ADL cannot obviously refute the content of the argument, it has to resort to attacking the organizations and people who bring forth legitimate arguments against an illegitimate tax that Gentile consumers are forced to pay, which is unknown to the vast majority of them. Of course, the ADL itself has a few skeletons in its closet, so to speak. Books such as "Conspiracy Against Freedom" or "The Ugly Truth about the ADL" (available from www.addall.com/used ) tell much of the stories kept behind the headlines.


In an attempt to make the ADL's concerns seem legitimate, it cites Dr. Ed Fields, who states:


"All of this is superstitious nonsense and has absolutely nothing to do with improving the quality of any food product. Still, this clever scheme of requiring kosher labeling has become a multi-million dollar business today!"


Obviously, since Dr. Fields says this--and since the ADL makes him out to be a "bad" person through the use of its personal attacks (for failing to cooperate with the false-logic that Kosher is somehow wholesome)--we are to believe what he says is false. But in fact, it is true. What the ADL fails to mention, here, is that many Jews have corroborated what Dr. Ed Fields has stated, and these Jews are even cited by Dr. Fields. For example, the Washington Post of 2 November 1987 is cited, quoting orthodox Rabbi Schulem Rubin:


"Kosher doesn't taste any better; Kosher isn't healthier; Kosher doesn't have less salmonella. You can eat a Holly Farm chicken which sells for 39 cents a pound on sale and next taste a Kosher chicken selling for $1.69 a pound and not tell the difference. There's a lot of money to be made. Religion is not based on logic."


Of course, facts have always been a problem for the ADL, which is why it has attacked Dr. Fields's character so much. If you cannot refute the argument, the ADL seemingly reasons, attack the person's character who makes the argument.


The ADL's article then goes on to suggest that Jews are not the only ones who prefer Kosher. It argues, "Some kosher marketing officials estimate there may be as many as six million Americans who seek out Kosher foods in the supermarket. Of these only 1.5 million are Jewish. Moslems and Seventh Day Adventists also adhere to certain aspects of the Jewish dietary laws." Is this true? Yes, it certainly is. You see, the article says, "Some Kosher marketing officials estimate...." Who are these "Kosher marketing officials" that make this claim? If you said the ADL, you might have just won the prize.


While I have not taken the time to see what the Seventh Day Adventists believe, I looked into if the Muslims found the Kosher certification acceptable as meeting their religious dietary habits as well. What does the Islamic Food Council of America have to say about Kosher meeting the religious dietary requirements of orthodox Muslims, or "Halal," as it is commonly known. According to the Halal Digest of July 2000, it states,


"Many Kosher producers believe that Muslims accept Kosher as being Halal. In fact, Muslims do not accept Kosher certification as being a substitute for Halal certification. Some Muslims may have believed that Kosher slaughter was similar to Halal, but they are learning that this is not true and are demanding Halal certified products. Internationally, only proper Halal certification is acceptable and monitoring agencies are being established to ensure compliance."


There is one major difference (that even I know of) between the Halal method of slaughter and that of the Kosher method. The Halal method is actually done in a more humane manner, as it allows the animal to be stunned first. However, this is not the case with Kosher slaughter, which requires the animal to experience the full amount of pain and be fully conscious.


Continuing, the ADL then goes on to say that "the bulk of Kosher shoppers appear to be consumers who believe the Kosher certification ... means higher quality food." Is this true? Well, the ADL gives no proof that there are a significant number of consumers who are non-Jewish and who buy Kosher products because they "believe" (with the word "believe" being the key-word here) Kosher "means higher quality food." However, as to the false claim that Kosher is a "higher quality food," the response to this is best summed up by Rabbi Irving Silverman. Rabbi Silverman is cited in the 20 March 1987 edition of The Sun-Sentinel:


"There's one misconception that I'd like to clear up. There's a perception that Jewish dietary laws are steeped in health considerations. That's not so at all. It is a commitment to a strict adherence to a tradition. I'm not Kosher because it's healthier; I'm Kosher because my parents were Kosher, and my grandparents were Kosher. It's a commitment!"


In conclusion, the ADL admits, rather hesitatingly it appears, that consumers do, in fact, "pay a higher price" at "Kosher butcher shops." While this is nice of the ADL to actually concede this relatively minor detail, it does not answer the greater question: How much are we Gentiles paying for the Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax overall? What are the real costs to us as consumers?


This figure of costs associated with the Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax is largely unknown due to Jews not disclosing how much they charge to the various companies that receive Kosher certification. In perhaps what can only be viewed as a mistake by the rabbis who oversee the Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax, in 1987 they disclosed that they expected Kosher steel to bring them in $700,000.00 of fees per year.(8)


How much is the total cost today? While the figure is unknown, there are other things we can tell. For instance, according to both Star-K Kosher certification and EBizAsiaLink, $165 billion worth of food received Kosher certification in 2002.(9) But does this $165 billion figure also include non-food products such as steel and aluminum foil, which are not actually Kosher "food" items despite the fees that are paid and certification received?(10) Probably not, so the figure may be much greater. Another figure that we can look at to determine cost is taken from an article appearing in the Detroit News. It stated that one Kosher certification company brought in an estimated $20 million.(11) (It is not known whether this figure of $20 million is actual net profits, or gross business.) You begin to understand how much money we are talking about when you realize, as stated at the beginning of this article, that there are 275 such Kosher-certification organizations in the United States, and a total of 400 worldwide.(12)


It must be recognized that in addition to the fees paid to rabbis for the Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax, there are other fees that a company might incur simply in an effort to ensure that its product is indeed Kosher. For example, they could not process pork or non-Kosher beef on the same equipment as Kosher beef, lest it be "contaminated." Equipment might then have to be added or changed. Suppliers might need to be changed. Special training would need to be administered. Perhaps, even a full-time rabbi might need to be hired to oversee the production.


The total costs associated with the Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax from all this is certainly in the billions, if not the trillions, of dollars.


Related story: Jewish Ritual Slaughter (link to online video too)


Footnotes:


1.) See many of these symbols at Kosher Quest:
http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm
See article appearing in the Detroit News about the number of Kosher agencies. It is said that there are total of 400 worldwide, with the vast majority (275) in the U.S.:
http://www.detnews.com/2001/food/0104/09/c09-208222.htm
2.) While many articles attest to this, the most honest and even-handed book about the matter is called "The Murder of Little Mary Phagan" (New Jersey: New Horizon Press, 1987). Leo Frank, the Jewish head of Atlanta's B'nai B'rith, had been convicted by a jury and his appeals were shown to be without merit. Nowadays, in what appears to be an effort to further divide Blacks and Whites, the ADL says that White Southern racists wrongly convicted the White Jew Leo Frank in an effort to let the true guilty Black perpetrator of the crime go free. For obvious reasons, such talk defies logic. Seventy years after the fact, Jews were able to secure a "pardon" for Frank; of course, one cannot receive a "pardon" without having been guilty. The pardon was not granted due to his innocence but, rather, due to the fact that the townspeople decided to hang Frank for his vicious crime, because the little girl Mary Phagan had been brutally murdered by him.


3.) Dr. Prytulak's "Kosher" website can be viewed at http://www.ukar.org/tax.shtml , and from there there are about 30 pages of links at his website that deal with the Rabbinical Kosher Excise Tax.


4.) The newspaper "The Truth at Last," edited by Dr. Ed Fields, showed one such example where an ad for Dobie Pad deliberately had its "U" symbol masked off in a magazine with a mostly non-Jewish readership but not in a publication intended mostly for Jews. Such deceptive practices should be illegal, according to "Truth in Advertising Laws." Jews typically engage in ad hominem invectives when this is pointed out - that is, they try to attack the source that presents these facts since they cannot refute the facts themselves. In this case, Jews will say that Dr. Fields is an "anti-Semite, blah, blah, blah..." Even if what they say is true--and it seems more like he is simply a concerned American patriot--it does not excuse such practices.


5.) See Star-K's website:
http://www.star-k.org/ind-advantages-market.htm


6.) Canadian Jewish News, March 20, 2003:
http://www.cjnews.com/front5.asp


7.) The Albuquerque [NM] Tribune:
http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/business02/072902_business_kosher.shtml


8.) Newsweek, "Hey, Have I Got an Alloy for You!" 23 March 1992, p. 49.


9.) Star-K:
http://www.star-k.org/ind-advantages-market.htm
EBizAsiaLink:
http://www.ebizasialink.com/fairs.asp?ArticleID=2378&SID=156


10.) For a list of items that are not Kosher, see Kosher Quest:
http://www.kosherquest.org/html/kosher_without_supervision.htm


11.) http://www.detnews.com/2001/food/0104/09/c09-208222.htm


12.) See footnote 1.
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 09:37
http://www.gentileworld.com/id37.htm



In 1745, the Jews were expelled from Prague, that being the second time. 70,000 Jews were forced to vacate the city by the "King's order, the reason being kept a secret." The good King had probably read the Jewish Talmud and, rather than simply tell the people what it contained (which would have certainly led to violence), preferred to allow the Jews to leave peaceably.


Jewish Expulsion

"The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows not how numerous the clique is, how they stick together, and what power they exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals and deceivers."

--Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman statesman and writer (106BC- 43BC)




All dates below are A.D., unless noted otherwise. Jews have been ostracized from nearly every nation in the world at one time or another. Below are a list of nations and large cities from which they have been banished:



AFRICA: (Also, see "Ethiopia" and "Egypt") From 1147-1212, the Almohads of North Africa persecuted the Jews. Between 1790 and 1792, most of the Jewish cities in Morocco were razed.


ARABIA: Between 624 and 628, Muhammad destroyed the Jewish tribes of Hejaz.


AUSTRIA: In 1298, Jews were attacked in Franconia, Bavaria and Austria. Altogether, numerous Jewish communities were razed and 100,000 Jews killed. Later, Albrecht V forced the Jews to leave in 1420.


AMERICA: On September 22, 1654, Peter Stuyvesant, the Governor of New Amsterdam, sought to oust Jews from his colony. In 1862, General Ulysses S. Grant issued Order No. 11. It forced all Jews to vacate the military district within a day of its application. (However, both Stuyvesant's and Grant's orders were retracted.) To see what American politicians have said about Jews in the past and read about anti-Jewish feelings in early American history, click here.


BABYLON (known as IRAQ today): In 586 B.C., Nebuchadnezzar conquered Judea (judah) and destroyed Solomon's Temple and all of Jerusalem. Jews were exiled or held captive. In 468 and 470, Jews were again persecuted.


BAVARIA: In 1551, Jews were banned.


BELGIUM: Jews were forced to vacate Flanders, which is now part of Belgium. Jews were not allowed to return until such time that they repented. In 1370, Jews were expunged.


CZECHOSLOVOKIA: 1745: The Jews were expelled from Prague, that being the second time. 70,000 Jews were forced to vacate the city by the "King's order, the reason being kept a secret." The King had probably read the Jewish Talmud and, rather than simply tell the people what it contained (which would have certainly led to violence), preferred to allow the Jews to leave peaceably.


DENMARK: Jews were not allowed entrance prior to the 17th century.


EGYPT: (See also "Ethiopia") During the time of Moses' birth, 1571 B.C., all male baby Jews were supposedly slain. In 3 B.C., Jews were ousted from Egypt, according to Greco-Egyptian historian Manetho. In 38 B.C., many Anti-Jewish riots took place in Alexandria, causing the deaths of many Jews. Jews were not permitted to leave a special area of the city reserved for them. In 66, Jews in Alexandria were massacred, causing 50,000 deaths.


ENGLAND: 1130 marked the year that Jews in London had to pay 1 million marks for killing an ill man. In 1189, after Richard the Lionhearted was coronated, many Jewish homes were burned; many Jews were slaughtered. All Jewish possessions were taken by England. In 1290, King Edward forced Jews to leave England. They were not allowed to return until 1655.


ETHIOPIA: Ethiopian Jews, who are Black, have had a history of persecution as well. Israel first began began to take quantities of them in the mid-1950s to use as farm-hands in the Galilean Hills and the Negev, while many Africans sought to destroy them. Eventually, most Ethiopian Jews arrived in Israel, as two major movements of them in 1985 (Operation Moses) and 1992 (Operation Solomon) took place.


FRANCE: In 561, The French Bishop of Uzes made Jews in his diocese to choose either between baptism or expulsion. In 1182, King Philip Augustus expels the Jews and takes their realty. In 1242, massive burnings of the Jewish Holy Book the Talmud took place. Philip the Fair expelled the Jews in 1306. Although the Gentiles grew soft and allowed a few Jews to return, these Jews were again forced to leave in 1394. In 1540, Jews were banished from Naples. Some settlements of Jews were allowed to continue in Avignon, Bordeaux, Marseilles (from whence they were forced to vacate in 1682) and in part of Alsace.


GERMANY: In 1012, Emperor Henry 11 expels the Jews from Mainz. In 1096, the First Crusades transpired. Approximately 12,000 Jews were executed in cities along the Rhine River. Between 1146-1147, the Second Crusade took place, in which some Jews were killed. In 1298, German knight Rindfleisch, was responsible for the deaths of thousands of Jews in central and southern Germany. In 1510, Jews were expelled from Brandenburg. On August 23, 1614, Jews were expelled from Frankfurt (shown in picture at the top), which occurred after the riots that Vincent Fettmilch led on the "Jews Street." Approximately 1,380 Jews were forced to leave via ships. On July 14, 1933, Germany and its allies, who strongly encouraged Jews to leave their nations, started by stripping east European Jewish immigrants of their citizenship. In 1935, the Nuremberg Laws were enacted, removing citizenship rights to all Jews. Many Jews eventually died from hunger or diseases like typhus while incarcerated for crimes against the state, often being forced to engage in menial labor, while others may have been executed.


HUNGARY: 1360 marked the year that Jews were expurgated, though they returned later. In 1582, Jews were again banished. Maria Theresa, who was Queen of Hungary and Bohemia (1717-1789), banished the Jews, by declaring: "Henceforth, no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to remain here without my written permission. I know of no other troublesome pest within the state than this race, which impoverishes the people by their fraud, usury and money-lending and commits all deeds which an honorable man despises. Subsequently, they have to be removed and excluded from here as much as possible."


ITALY: In 1492, 100,000 Jews were expelled from Sicily. Jews were exscinded from Sardinia and Naples in 1540; from Venice and Genoa in 1550. In 1553 Rome, any copies of the Talmud were burned. In 1569, and again in 1593, Jews were expelled from Italy. From 1846-1878, in the Vatican State, Pope Pius IX enforced former restrictions against the Jews.


IRAQ: (See also "Babylon"): In 1969, many Jews were executed.


JERUSALEM: Jew were expelled from Jerusalem in 70 A.D. and were "forbidden to enter on pain of death." Supposedly, 1.1 million Jews were executed, and 97,000 were enslaved. The city was renamed Aelia Capitolina by Gentiles. Click here to view an article from an old encyclopedia. Although the Jews were allowed to return eventually, Constantine again enforced the edict to expell Jews in 324.


LIBYA: In 1948, pogroms occurred.


LITHUANIA: Grand Duke Alexander castigated Jews in 1495 by banishing them; however, they returned.


MONGOLIA: A pogrom occurred there in 1919.


NETHERLANDS: In 1444, Jews were were banished from Utrecht.


NORWAY: Jews were not permitted entrance to Norway until after 1814.


POLAND: The King of Poland revoked all citizens' rights of Jews in 1453. (Poland was made part of Russia between 1712 and 1815.) In 1795 Jews were forced to live in Russia's Pale of Settlement. While these laws eventually became relaxed under Alexander II, they were enforced again in 1882 after his assassination by a Jewish plot. In 1938, 17,000 Polish Jews were denied entrance to Poland. On July 4, 1946, a pogrom occurred in Kielce, where 42 Jews were killed and many more injured.


PORTUGAL: In 1498, Jews were told to leave.


PRUSSIA: The year 1510 marked the epoch in which Jews were forced to vacate Prussia.


ROME: (Also, see "Jerusalem.") In 315, Constantine the Great issued many anti-Jewish laws. Later, in 379, Theodosius the Great prevented Jews from retaining an official gate position or place of honor. He also allowed synagogues to be razed if it was for a religious reason.


RUSSIA: In 1100, pogroms directed against Jews in Kiev occurred. In 1772, Russia issued the Pale of Settlement, a decree that restricted Jews to live in only certain areas of Russia. The restriction continued in effect for almost a century. In 1861, Alexander II allowed some Jews to live outside the Pale of Settlement and to even hold government positions. However, in 1881, after Czar Alexander II was assassinated by a plot contrived at the home of Jewess Hesia Helfman, Jews who were allowed to live outside the Pale of Settlement were forced to return. (Later, Jews wrested control of Russia, made anti-Jewism a crime punishable by death, proceeded to massacre 40 million Gentiles and razed most churches.) In 1991, antipathy towards Jews was renewed (to a small degree).


SAXONY: Jews were forced to leave in 1349.


SLOVAKIA: In 1380, Jews were banned from Prague. As time continued, Slovakia became lax, and Jews moved there again after 1562. 1744 marked the year when Marie Theresa banished Jews again.


SPAIN: From 612 to 621, the Spanish king Sisebut told all Jews to either convert to Christianity or be exiled. While some Jews remained, in 694 they were dispossessed and made slaves. In 1321, 5,000 Jews were burned at the stake for poisoning wells. In 1391, pogroms, in which 50,000 Jews were killed, occurred all over Spain. Jews were ousted from Spain on March 30, 1492. It was not until 1968 that Spain invited Jews to come back. Today, there are only a few thousand Jews who reside there.


SWEDEN: Jews could not reside in Sweden until after 1782.


SWITZERLAND: In 1939, Switzerland asked German authorities to mark all Jewish passports with the red letter "J," so that the Swiss quickly would be able to identify who to deny entrance.


SYRIA: Even today, Jews are not allowed to vote there or to emigrate.




In 1745, the Jews were expelled from Prague, that being the second time. 70,000 Jews were forced to vacate the city by the "King's order, the reason being kept a secret." The good King had probably read the Jewish Talmud and, rather than simply tell the people what it contained (which would have certainly led to violence), preferred to allow the Jews to leave peaceably.
Decisive Action
06-08-2004, 09:38
http://www.gentileworld.com/id252.htm


Jewish Oral Laws (Talmud)



The following are some of the Jewish Oral Laws, contained within the Talmud. They are vociferously against all non-Jews. These are some of the same laws that govern Israel; Jews have incorporated their Talmudic Law into government law. This helps to explain why Jews express such a bitter, fanatical hatred towards the Palestinians, which, after over a half century of unrelenting persecution of Palestinians, has finally begun to turn on Jews.



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Cover page of the Babylonian Talmud





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Kethuboth 11b (Page Viewer): "When a grown up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing, for when the girl is less than this [Footnote 6: "less than three years old"], it as if one puts the finger into the eye; but when a small boy has intercourse with a grown-up woman he makes her as 'a girl who is injured by a piece of wood. . . ." Footnote 1: "Although the intercourse of a small boy is not regarded as a sexual act, nevertheless the woman is injured by it as by a piece of wood" (emphasis added).



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Sanhedrin 55b (Page Viewer): "What if a Jew committed bestiality in ignorance; must there have been a stumbling block and degradation (for the animal to be stoned) and in this case there is only degredation, but no sin; or perhaps for degradation alone without there having been a stumbling block (the animal is stoned)? . . . A maiden aged three years and one day may be acquired in marriage by coition, and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her, she becomes his" (emphasis added).



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Sanhedrin 59a (Page Viewer): "A heathen [Gentile] who studies the Torah [Old Testament] deserves death, for it is written, Moses commanded us a law for an inheritance; it our inheritance, not theirs. . . . [part of the footnote follows] R. Johana's dictum . . . is not to be taken literally. It is also possible that R. Johanan's objection was to the studying of Oral Law [the Talmud] by Jewish Christians, as the possession of the Oral Law was held to be the distinguishing mark of the Jews. It is significant that it was R. Johanan who also said that God's covenant with Israel was only for the sake of oral law." (Talmud's emphasis)



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These next two passages are particulary interesting, since there has been much recently said about Jewish-Christian relations. In fact, there is none. There are much more similarities between Islam and Christianity, as Islam treats Jesus as one of its prophets. Jews, however, hate Jesus, as noted below in the following two pages in the Talmud. This helps explain why Christians are arrested for even having a cross displayed in their window in Israel, and Christians are jailed for 5 years in prison for seeking to proselytize Jews in Israel as well.

In Sanhedrin 106a-106b (Page Viewer), we see that a woman "who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Looking at footnote number 5, we see this "harlot," notes the Talmud, "though no name is mentioned to show which woman is meant, the mother of Jesus may be alluded to" (emphasis added). We also take note that it "suggests that Balaam is frequently used in the Talmud as a type for Jesus" (emphasis added) in the same footnote. (This is also confirmed in the Jewish Encyclopedia [page not shown] where it notes that "Baalam" is just another name for "Jesus." It then goes on to say that "the pupils of the recreant Baalam inherit hell.")



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In Gittin 56b-57a (not shown), it discusses Baalam (Jesus) again (see the page Sanhedrin 106a-b for clarification of Jesus being Baalam). It says that he was "raised" by "incantations." Jesus was "then asked: What is your punishment? He replied: 'With boiling hot semen.'" (The footnote says "Jesus" is being referred to here, to avoid any confusion.) It then states their belief that there is a divine punishment given to non-Jews in an after-life: "What is your punishment? They replied: 'With boiling hot excrement, since a Master has said: Whoever mocks the words of the Sages [Talmud] is punished with boiling hot excrement.'"



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Abodah Zara 26b (Page Viewer): ". . . minim [Gentiles*], informers, and apostates may be cast in [a deep pit from which they cannot climb out], and need not be brought up" (Talmud's emphasis). *Note: The Jewish Encyclopedia clarifies that minim is used in reference to non-Jews.





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Nedarim 23b (Page Viewer). Here we see the Jewish oath of Kol Nidre. This is an oath that they recite every year. It justifies the absolvement of any agreements made with respect to non-Jews during the course of the following year. It says, "And he who desires that none of his vows made during the year shall be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every vow which I make in the future shall be null.'"



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Sanhedrin 57a (Page Viewer): "'With respect to robbery--if one stole or robbed or (seized) a beautiful woman, or (committed) similar offenses, if (these were perpetrated) by one Cuthean [Gentile] against another, (the theft, etc.) must not be kept, and likewise (the theft) of an Israelite by a Cuthean, but that of a Cuthean by an Israelite may be retained'? . . . 'For murder, whether of a Cuthean by a Cuthean, or of an Israelite by a Cuthean, punishment is incurred; but of a Cuthean by an Israelite, there is no death penalty'?" Footnote 5: "'Cuthean' (Samaritan) was here substituted by the censor for the original goy (heathen) [non-Jew]" (emphasis added).





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Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. X, p. 619, "Gentile" (Page Viewer): ". . . they held that only Israelites are men, quoting the prophet, 'Ye my flock, the flock of my pasture, are men' (Ezek. xxxiv, 31); Gentiles they classed not as men but as barbarians [Baba Mezia 108b]" (emphasis added).



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Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. X, p. 620, "Gentile" (Page Viewer):






"It follows that the Gentiles were excepted from the general civil laws of Moses. For example, the Law provides that if a man's ox gores and kills a neighbor's ox, the carcass and surviving ox shall be sold, and the proceeds divided between the respective owners (half-damages). If, however, the goring ox has been known to be dangerous and its owner has not kept watch over it, he shall pay full damages for the dead ox and take the carcass (Ex. xxi, 35-36, Hebr.). Here the Gentile is excepted, as he is not a 'neighbor' in the sense of reciprocating and being responsible for damages caused by his negligence; nor does he keep watch over his cattle. Even the best Gentile laws were too crude to admit of reciprocity. . . . The Mishnah, bearing such facts in mind, therefore declares that if a Gentile sue an Israelite, the verdict is for the defendant; if the Israelite is the plaintiff, he obtains full damages (Baba Kamma iv, 3). . . .






"The Mosaic law provides for the restoration of a lost article to its owner if a 'brother' and 'neighbor' (Deut. xxii, 1-3), but not if a Gentile (Baba Kamma 113b). . . .






"Similarly, the mandate concerning the oppression of or withholding wages from a hireling brother or neighbor, or a domiciled alien (Deut. xxiv, 14-15) who observes the Noachian laws, is not applicable in the case of a Gentile. This is to say a Gentile may be employed at reduced wages, which need not be paid promptly on the same day, but may be paid in accordance with the usual custom of the place. . . .






"R. Ashi decided that a Jew who sells a Gentile landed property bordering on the land of another Jew shall be excommunicated, not only on the ground that the Gentile laws do not provide for neighbors' boundary priviliges [unknown Hebrew characters], but also because the Jewish neighbor may claim 'thou hast caused a lion to lie on my border'" (emphasis added throughout).



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The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. X, p. 621, under the heading "Gentile" (Page Viewer), states that property owned by Gentiles "is considered public property, like unclaimed land in the desert." It notes that "discriminations against Gentiles . . . [is] strictly in accordance with the just law of reciprocity and retaliation, [though] seldom practiced. . . . Another reason for discrimination was the vile and vicious character of the Gentiles . . ." Also, "The Torah [Old Testament] outlawed the issue of a Gentile as that of a beast (Mik. viii, 4, referring to Ezek. l.c.)." Further, the "Talmud comments on the untruthfulness of Gentiles," referring to Gentiles as "'a band of strange children whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand (in rising to take an oath) is a right hand of falsehood'" (emphasis added).


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On another page, The Jewish Encyclopedia (Page Viewer) states that the Jewish Talmud says it's OK to overcharge Gentiles but not Jews: "The Jewish law against overcharging one-sixth or more above the current price of marketable merchandise--a violation of which affected the validity of the sale--applied only to a Jew or domiciled alien, not to a Gentile" (emphasis added). It also goes on to say that "not even on Monday is the Gentile allowed to rest."


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After reading this - and realizing that these are the laws that the Israelis use to govern the Palestinians - perhaps you might now understand why it is that the Palestinians regularly burn Israel's flag: It represents the hatred and subjugation of non-Jews.
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 09:41
I have a question for the evil bigot. What is any of this based on? There is no fact supporting your hatred of the Jews. It could just as easily been Gentiles in the same situations that the Jews have gone through over the years.
QahJoh
06-08-2004, 09:42
The kosher tax was debunked years ago. Try again, genius.

http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/kosher.htm

http://www.adl.org/special_reports/kosher_tax/kosher_intro.asp

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/tax.html

And, as stated before, your Talmud quotes are similarly false. I've already provided the links debunking them.

All dates below are A.D., unless noted otherwise. Jews have been ostracized from nearly every nation in the world at one time or another. Below are a list of nations and large cities from which they have been banished

What does that prove? That people have hated Jews for a long time? Thanks for that bit of enlightening education.
Generic empire
06-08-2004, 09:42
Alright. It's been fun hunting racists, but I need my sleep. It's 5 in the morning here. Today I shall attempt to find an ebony vision to satisfy my lust. Good Night/Morning.
Ancients of Mu Mu
06-08-2004, 09:46
can i have a gurl over the internet to plzz i havn't had a gurl in 2 years :(

Oh, for pity's sake. :rolleyes:

[hand's Poodleonia a box of tissues & a copy of Playboy]
Soviet Haaregrad
06-08-2004, 09:50
Also you should make sure the woman can properly answer all the following.


1) Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party?

2) Are you now or have you ever been involved in an interracial relationship?

3) Are you now or have you ever been involved in drug use, possession, or selling?

4) Are you now or have you ever been charged with a felony or other serious crime?

5) Are you now of have you ever been engaged in homosexual or bisexual activities?

6) Are you now or have you ever been convicted of a sexual offense?

7) Are you now or have you ever been convicted of a crime against a child?

8) Are you now or have you ever been an employee of the federal government?

9) Are you now or have you ever been a member of a non-Christian religion?

10) Are you now or have you ever been addicted to any drug such as alcohol or narcotics?

11) Is any of your ancestry non-european?

That's about all the questions I can think of right now, it's beyond 3 am.

But, if a woman can answer no to all 11 of them, she's probably safe to be with.

Okay, you have fun with your boring girls.

I'll keep the kinky stoner chicks. :p

Race isn't that important to me, there's hot girls of every race.
Daroth
06-08-2004, 09:52
I have a question for the evil bigot. What is any of this based on? There is no fact supporting your hatred of the Jews. It could just as easily been Gentiles in the same situations that the Jews have gone through over the years.

And don't you like how he glossed over the nazi genocide?

An interesting point, in most cases jews were asked to leave the country. Many were also killed.
The strange thing is, any other religion at the time in europe, say muslims or pagans would have been told too convert or die.
And in spain, what happened to the jews also happened to the muslims and ayone else who was not catholic
Korjevia
06-08-2004, 09:54
White. Russian to be more specific!

Russian girls are the prettiest girls in the world. :D
Greater Valia
06-08-2004, 10:01
1. Asian / white, tie
2. hispanic
3. black
4. animated...
QahJoh
06-08-2004, 10:02
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Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. X, p. 619, "Gentile" (Page Viewer): ". . . they held that only Israelites are men, quoting the prophet, 'Ye my flock, the flock of my pasture, are men' (Ezek. xxxiv, 31); Gentiles they classed not as men but as barbarians " (emphasis added).

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Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. X, p. 620, "Gentile" (Page Viewer):


"It follows that the Gentiles were excepted from the general civil laws of Moses. For example, the Law provides that if a man's ox gores and kills a neighbor's ox, the carcass and surviving ox shall be sold, and the proceeds divided between the respective owners (half-damages). If, however, the goring ox has been known to be dangerous and its owner has not kept watch over it, he shall pay full damages for the dead ox and take the carcass (Ex. xxi, 35-36, Hebr.). Here the Gentile is excepted, as he is not a 'neighbor' in the sense of reciprocating and being responsible for damages caused by his negligence; nor does he keep watch over his cattle. Even the best Gentile laws were too crude to admit of reciprocity. . . . The Mishnah, bearing such facts in mind, therefore declares that if a Gentile sue an Israelite, the verdict is for the defendant; if the Israelite is the plaintiff, he obtains full damages (Baba Kamma iv, 3). . . .


"The Mosaic law provides for the restoration of a lost article to its owner if a 'brother' and 'neighbor' (Deut. xxii, 1-3), but not if a Gentile (Baba Kamma 113b). . . .


"Similarly, the mandate concerning the oppression of or withholding wages from a hireling brother or neighbor, or a domiciled alien (Deut. xxiv, 14-15) who observes the Noachian laws, is not applicable in the case of a Gentile. This is to say a Gentile may be employed at reduced wages, which need not be paid promptly on the same day, but may be paid in accordance with the usual custom of the place. . . .


"R. Ashi decided that a Jew who sells a Gentile landed property bordering on the land of another Jew shall be excommunicated, not only on the ground that the Gentile laws do not provide for neighbors' boundary priviliges [unknown Hebrew characters], but also because the Jewish neighbor may claim 'thou hast caused a lion to lie on my border'" (emphasis added throughout).

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The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. X, p. 621, under the heading "Gentile" (Page Viewer), states that property owned by Gentiles "is considered public property, like unclaimed land in the desert." It notes that "discriminations against Gentiles . . . [is] strictly in accordance with the just law of reciprocity and retaliation, [though] seldom practiced. . . . Another reason for discrimination was the vile and vicious character of the Gentiles . . ." Also, "The Torah [Old Testament] outlawed the issue of a Gentile as that of a beast (Mik. viii, 4, referring to Ezek. l.c.)." Further, the "Talmud comments on the untruthfulness of Gentiles," referring to Gentiles as "'a band of strange children whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand (in rising to take an oath) is a right hand of falsehood'" (emphasis added).

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On another page, The Jewish Encyclopedia (Page Viewer) states that the Jewish Talmud says it's OK to overcharge Gentiles but not Jews: "The Jewish law against overcharging one-sixth or more above the current price of marketable merchandise--a violation of which affected the validity of the sale--applied only to a Jew or domiciled alien, not to a Gentile" (emphasis added). It also goes on to say that "not even on Monday is the Gentile allowed to rest."

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Nice try, idiot, but the Jewish Encyclopedia is ONLINE, for everybody to see. Why don't we do just ONE of the bullshit quotes you gave, ok?

The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. X, p. 621, under the heading "Gentile" (Page Viewer), states that property owned by Gentiles "is considered public property, like unclaimed land in the desert."

ACTUAL QUOTE: http://jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=142&letter=G&search=gentile#537

In truth, Ashi coincided with the opinion of the authority stated above; namely, that, [b]as the presumption is that the Gentile obtained possession by seizure, the property is considered public property, like unclaimed land in the desert (B. B. 54b). The consensus of opinion, however, was against this authority. R. Simeon the Pious quotes to show that legal possession was required even in dealing with the Seven Nations: "And thou shalt consume [ = "eat the spoils"] all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee" (Deut. vii. 6, Hebr.), meaning that Israel could claim the land only as conquerors, not otherwise (B. Ḳ. 113b).

In other words, the land is considered public because it was probably STOLEN.

Your quote:

It notes that "discriminations against Gentiles . . . [is] strictly in accordance with the just law of reciprocity and retaliation, [though] seldom practiced. . . .

ACTUAL quote:

Discriminations against Gentiles, while strictly in accordance with the just law of reciprocity and retaliation, having for their object to civilize the heathen and compel them to adopt the civil laws of Noah, were nevertheless seldom practised. The principal drawback was the fear of "profaning the Holy Name" (). Consequently it was necessary to overlook legal quibbles which might appear unjust in the eyes of the world, and which would reflect on the good name and integrity of the Jewish nation and its religion. Another point to be considered was the preservation, "for the sake of peace" ("mi-pene darke shalom"), of the friendly relations between Jew and Gentile, and the avoidance of enmity.

In other words, it was legal according to the laws of retribution to discriminate against Gentiles, but the Jews REFUSED to do so, because they believed it would have been a desecration against God and peace.

Wow, how evil.

Your quote:

Another reason for discrimination was the vile and vicious character of the Gentiles . . ."Also, "The Torah [Old Testament] outlawed the issue of a Gentile as that of a beast (Mik. viii, 4, referring to Ezek. l.c.)."

ACTUAL quote:

3. Another reason for discrimination was the vile and vicious character of the Gentiles: "I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation " (= "vile," "contemptible"; Deut. xxxii. 21). The Talmud says that the passage refers to the Gentiles of Barbary and Mauretania, who walked nude in the streets (Yeb. 63b), and to similar Gentiles, "whose flesh is as the flesh of asses and whose issue is like the issue of horses" (Ezek. xxiii. 20); who can not claim a father (Yeb. 98a). The Gentiles were so strongly suspected of unnatural crimes that it was necessary to prohibit the stabling of a cow in their stalls ('Ab. Zarah ii. 1). Assaults on women were most frequent, especially at invasions and after sieges (Ket. 3b), the Rabbis declaring that in case of rape by a Gentile the issue should not be allowed to affect a Jewish woman's relation to her husband. "The Torah outlawed the issue of a Gentile as that of a beast" (Miḳ. viii. 4, referring to Ezek. l.c.).

That last quote means that if a woman was raped by a Gentile, it was not considered to have dishonored or affected her "purity". It was an act of KINDNESS and benevolence to Jewish women, just like your "a Jew can have sex with a girl at 3 and it is nothing"- it means she is not considered to have had sex; that she is still "pure" and a virgin. The idea is to be COMPASSIONATE towards victims of sexual assault. Wow, how horrible.

Let's continue with the JE:

Excepting the Greeks, no Gentiles, not even the Persians, were particular in shedding blood (B. Ḳ. 117a). "Meeting a Gentile on the road armed with a sword [on his left], the Jew shall let him walk on his right . If the Gentile carries a cane [in his right hand], the Jew shall let him walk at his left [so that he may seize the cane if raised against him]. In ascending or descending the Jew shall always be above, and shall not stoop down for fear of assassination. If the Gentile ask to be shown the way, the Jew shall extend his own journey a point farther and shall not tarry on reaching the stranger's destination" ('Ab. Zarah 25b).

Taking these conditions into consideration, the precautions against the employment of Gentile midwives can be easily understood. A Gentile woman was not allowed to suckle a Jewish babe, save in the presence of Jews. Even so it was feared that the Gentile nurse might poison the child (ib. 25a). As a retaliative measure, or for fear of accusation, the Rabbis forbade Jewish midwives and nurses to engage themselves in Gentile families, unless offered a fee for the service or to avoid enmity (ib.). The same rule applied to physicians (Maimonides, "Yad," 'Akkum, ix. 16). The Roman laws ordained that physicians should be punished for neglect or unskilfulness, and for these causes many were put to death (Montesquieu, "L'Esprit des Lois," xxix. § 14). In a place where no Jewish physician could be found to perform the rite of circumcision the question arose whether a Gentile or a Samaritan mohel might be chosen to operate. If the Gentile is "an expert physician patronized by the public, he may be employed, as it is presumed he would not jeopardize his reputation by purposely injuring a Jewish patient" ('Ab. Zarah 27a).

Observe, these characterizations of Gentiles were based on contemporary FACTS and behaviors. They do not apply to modern-day Gentiles.

Last bit.

Your quote:

Further, the "Talmud comments on the untruthfulness of Gentiles," referring to Gentiles as "'a band of strange children whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand (in rising to take an oath) is a right hand of falsehood'" (emphasis added).

ACTUAL quote:

With such a character as that depicted above, it would naturally be quite unsafe to trust a Gentile as a witness, either in a criminal case or in a civil suit. He could not be depended upon to keep his promise or word of honor like a Jew (Bek. 13b). The Talmud comments on the untruthfulness of Gentiles ("a band of strange children whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand [in raising it to take an oath] is a right hand of falsehood" [Ps. cxliv. 11]), and contrasts it with thereputation of a Jew: "The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth" (Zeph. iii. 13). Also excluded as a "neighbor" was the Gentile in whose trust property was left with all prescribed provisions (Ex. xxii. 6-14).

However, notice how the paragraph continues:

The T[b]orah does not discriminate against the testimony of a Gentile, save when he is held to be a robber; when it is thought that he has no intention of perjuring himself he is believed (Mordecai, Annotations to Rosh Giṭ. 10). Hence documents and deeds prepared by Gentile notaries in their courts are admitted as valid evidence (Giṭ. i. 4). R. Simeon even validates a Jewish writ of divorce signed by a Gentile notary (ib.). In dietary cases, where a Gentile is disinterested his evidence is accepted (Shulḥan 'Aruk, Yoreh De'ah, 86, 1). A Gentile's testimony to a man's death, incidentally related as a matter of fact, he being unaware that his evidence is wanted, is held sufficient to release a woman from her marriage bond and to permit her to marry again

You thought you were being real slick, didn't you? Too bad the JE is online- along with scans of the original pages.

Got you, douchebag.
TaleSpinner
06-08-2004, 10:08
Wish we got to the vikings! I loathe nordics.

you ignorant... the vikings emerged at around 700 ad. a tad to late for the romans.. and beside, we'd kicked your froozen butt if you'd even survive the trip up north...

A barbarian is a non-Roman and a non-Greek

no, only a non-greek. so your a barbarian too. just because you copied the greeks doesn't mean your not a barbarian in their eyes.



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i'll take human race. a girl if i may choose, with humomr and a sharp intellect. good looks doesn't hurt either :D
Scencilia
06-08-2004, 10:11
Now I've heard everything.

Prove he was white anglo-saxon. He was a galelaen (or however the hell you spell it). Hint bloody hint, that means he wasn't white.


Oh please, PLEASE don'st start talking about Eve having sex with demons and making Cain and whatnot. I've already heard that thero-well, let's be honest, it's just plain idiocy.

Jesus was whatever he was, who the fuck cares. If Jesus existed he was either human or alien that resembled human, either way does it matter?

I love how you uneducated rednecks pull crap out of the bible, take it out of context and spill it forth as if it means something. If I did this I would personally choose the several places where god demands human sacrifice usually that of the first born son and demand you all implement it and your fathers do the same, many of you pathetic lamers would be dead and the world a safer place from biggots that have zero real world experience and could not survive outside their little sheltered KKK towns. Its amazing people with such prejudice can actually get online as I have never met one with any intelligence. If your going to claim to be christian at least read the bible cover to cover and preferably research it.

Btw, for those interested the bible is filled with incest, pedefilia, and beastiality, not to mention Jesus loved whores as stated when he came to the defense of one, and was mentioned to be touching children all the time. If your going to make claims to another religion's works in an attempt to slam it, read it for your self instead of parroting someone else that told you, now go kill your first born son like god demands then sell your daughter into slavery, just make sure you get a fair price (sounds like prostitution).
Korjevia
06-08-2004, 10:18
take it out of context....


Nuff said really.

You should try to listen to your own advice more often.

EDIT: And if the only way you can participate in a debate is by insulting other debaters (calling them uneducated rednecks etc.), perhaps debating just isn't your thing.
QahJoh
06-08-2004, 10:24
Oh please, PLEASE don'st start talking about Eve having sex with demons and making Cain and whatnot. I've already heard that thero-well, let's be honest, it's just plain idiocy.

Actually, what's interesting is that this idea- called the "Serpent-seed" doctrine- actually seems to have been, if not invented, then at least passed on- in Jewish mysticism, of all things! The Zohar, one of the seminal texts of the Kabbalah, has a short section in which it expands on the Eve & Serpent story.

Observe this excerpt, from a paper I wrote:

The Zohar begins by declaring that Eve was not the only one enticed by the serpent’s trickery. Rather, it says that Adam was the serpent’s first “victim”- and, furthermore, that by listening to the serpent, Adam abandons the holy covenant previously between himself and God (symbolized in the Zohar by the Sefirotic spheres Yesod and Skekhinah). The Zohar then moves to Eve, saying that that her interaction with the serpent was much more than a mere act of trickery or deception. According to the Zohar, the serpent had sexual intercourse with her, as well! And therefore, not only are Adam and Eve corrupted by the serpent’s “filth”, or “slime”, but also their first two children, Cain and Abel:

Afterward they bore their first son, son of slime. Two copulated with [Eve]; she conceived and bore two. Each emerged according to his kind; by their spirit they separated… each resembling its side…

...if it was not merely Eve who was affected and afflicted by the serpent; if Cain was also “polluted” by the serpent’s slime, then surely this pollution would also carry to his offspring, as well. In effect, the serpent pollutes Cain’s entire bloodline. And, indeed, this is the same conclusion given by the Zohar:

…From the side of Cain emerge all the haunts of maleficent species, spirits, demons and sorcerers. From the side of Abel, a side of greater compassion, yet incomplete- good wine adulterated with bad, immature until Seth appeared, from whom descended all righteous generations, by whom the world was sown. From Cain descended all those insolent, wicked sinners of the world.

What is particularly interesting here is that according to the Zohar, Cain is not the only son corrupted by the union between Eve and the serpent; Abel is, as well, even though he is described as the son of Adam, not of “slime”. The Zohar seems to be saying that the profanation of the serpent’s action was so massive that its residual “corruption” was strong enough to impact Abel’s conception, even though his was “pure” and untainted. So it is that even though Abel is described as having “greater compassion”, he is also characterized as being incomplete, because his conception and birth were close enough in proximity to the serpent’s foul act. The Zohar notes that it is only with the third son Seth that righteous people actually come into the world. This is particularly fascinating as it dramatically elevates Seth above the few cursory- and largely mundane- verses of description he receives in Genesis.

Neat, huh?

(Well, maybe just to geeks like me...)

Edit: One important difference between the Jewish version of this event and that adopted by White supremacists is that in the Zohar, the descendants of Cain are not described as being any specific people, just "evil". White supremacists, on the other hand, say that the descendants of Cain are the modern-day "Jews".

More here: http://www.apologeticsindex.org/c106.html

The beginnings of the patriot / militia movement are inseparably interwoven with the violent Christian Identity movement (CIM). This network of churches and independent leaders began forming in the 1940s as racists defected from mainstream Christian denominations to organize their own churches. Although they retained a few Christian doctrines, especially those concerning the end times, they adopted additional beliefs built around prejudice and hate. Identity believers, for example, hold that today's Caucasians are the true descendants of Abralum, Isaac, and Jacob. Thus they are God's chosen people.

What of the Jew? Identity teaches that Jews resulted from a sexual union between Eve and ''the serpent'' (Gen. 3), which is usually identified as either Satan in physical form or a demonic representative in human flesh.[29] This teaching — known as the ''Serpent Seed'' doctrine — asserts that Cain was conceived by Eve and Satan, while Abel was conceived by Eve and Adarn, who were supposedly the first white people. Cain allegedly then fathered the Jews by intermarrying with preexisting nonwhite races known as ''mud people'' or ''beasts of the field.'' Identity leader Bertrand Comparet comments, ''The Bible makes it unmistakably clear that we are not all descended from Adam and Eve, for there were other races on earth, already old, already numerous, when Adam was created.''[30] (Cf. Gen. 3:20 , which says Eve became the mother of all the living.)
Ancients of Mu Mu
06-08-2004, 10:30
This thread is silly!http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/otn/funny/fruit.gif
Sino
06-08-2004, 10:30
Oddly enough, as an Asian, I prefer White girls. I'm also NOT attracted to Asian girls.
The-Libertines
06-08-2004, 10:50
White, asian, black, mixed race, aboriginal...It's all good really. I can get attracted to anyone but often my fantasies revolve around whites for some reason *shrug*. I do not think this is racist it is just who turns me on, I can not help their colour anymore than I can help their gender.
Scencilia
06-08-2004, 10:53
Nuff said really.

You should try to listen to your own advice more often.

Hmm, thank you for your proving the point I was making, people that are prejudice are stupid.

Duh, I know I took the bible out of context, that was the entire point to take something out of context really pushes the ideals behind it all.

My point on what Jesus was if that is what you refer to, is why are people so worried about what race he was, does that somehow make you feel superior, if so based on location of the stories he was Arabic, even the Europeans of the middle ages knew this, why do you think they wanted to go to Isreal. Go figure the holly land was over ran by Jews. Ironic? Or just pathetic that people squabble over meaningless information. Either you read the story start to finish or you don't claim to be an expert on it. I do not claim to be an expert as I have only research about half of the bible, more than most people stating claims about it.

Researching the bible is the first step to realizing how poorly translated it must have been over the years, as learning even a simple language such as latin and reading some of the origional latin translations taking historical aspects into the studies, and taking a serious look at science and etimology of words and meanings, as well as learning how people wrote during the time, all adds up to be one piss poor job at translation.

Sabbatis rubor est, peurae sacrificum primus est et saepe pecammant.

Yeah my latin may suck compared to one who spoke in Rome, but I am willing to bet you bible thumpers know less than I, in any event if you cannot read this perhaps you are not as wise and knowledgeable of the bible as you claim, or perhaps you speak hebrew. Otherwise get a life and stop trying to act like you know anything about what you are talking about. If you are truely educated please show us your great wisdom and mayhaps we can even have a nice little chat in Latin or Hebrew, though I must first learn Hebrew if that is what you choose.

If not then you are no more than the sheep that follows blindly to Tartarus portis magnis. (The great gates of hell-- go ahead slam the translation I would love to debate that as well, and if your knowledgeable enough to do so I may find it interesting and a challenge).

Remember the bible mentions all the false prophets of the future and was written long before christianity came about, perhaps they are the future the warning was stating, after all most christians don't even follow the english translated version presented to them, let alone take time to really learn what the bible says and why. If you are going to argue about it at least add something to it instead of repeating tired old excerts that you somehow memorised in seminary.

Make love not war, respect your fellow man, the bible tells us to do so yet we do not.
Scencilia
06-08-2004, 11:13
http://www.gentileworld.com/id37.htm

Jewish Expulsion

"The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows not how numerous the clique is, how they stick together, and what power they exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals and deceivers."
--Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman statesman and writer (106BC- 43BC)


Not wanting to post your big long pile, here is a thought for you, or two.

A challange to any good christian boy or girl. Read through and answer the questions about the bible at the end, this is an essay question and is worth 100% of your grade. If you can succeed at this we will move to the next class theology 1020, and you will recieve a letter grade evaluating your ability to BS your way through it all.

Rome, pagans all amode. Pagans rock :D.

Anyhow, the Romans disliked all. In fact the Druids who in Roman writtings were the only enemy held in awe, (this includes christians and such) states a lot. Most victors write about victory, rarely do they write about how much respect they have for a foe, this would be like hitler saying we rounded up all the jews but really loved their culture, it was so inspiring.

Secondly, at the time you are refering to, Jew was a word meant to describe christians, or at least their roots, as Christians emerged from the Jewish faith, thus you are Jewish. Go figure.

People People, you need to take some time to study your history, stop quoting other peoples take on history, you never know how acurate it is.


For a real interesting time, try and find the links between the christians and rome with verification, and better those of the roman time and modern time. Make sure your research is verifiable else it is as useful as me saying that Druids of the early years were more technologically advanced than we are today, a claim some actually make. Or for that matter Lucifer and Satan are the same, as this only happened in English translations from the middle age. Btw, where is nod? what is nod? how do we know? Why did the gods in Genisis speak to people but the single god thereafter really ignore people. Why is it that Abraham did not worship the true god but instead the highest god, thus stating more than one god did exist? Why is it that all these gods just vanished and reappeared at a whim?
Answer these questions with logic and reason and tell me that the bible is both true, truely translated, and there is only one god. If you can accomplish that you must be god.
Scencilia
06-08-2004, 11:35
you ignorant... the vikings emerged at around 700 ad. a tad to late for the romans.. and beside, we'd kicked your froozen butt if you'd even survive the trip up north...

no, only a non-greek. so your a barbarian too. just because you copied the greeks doesn't mean your not a barbarian in their eyes.

i'll take human race. a girl if i may choose, with humomr and a sharp intellect. good looks doesn't hurt either :D

To the vikings, they were around before 700 ad, but not as a unified culture per se, and the romans had trouble occupying most northern countries at the time and soon fell so would never have made it that far north anyways. Either way its what it is :D. Believe it or not Romans were not that wide spread, the vikings made it to America by some lines of thought in history, and the egyptians show evidence of being here as well. A small chunk of Eurasia seems pretty small in comparison to me.

As for barbarians, it often more specifically anyone that was not a Greek citizen, which meant it often included many people of Greek blood as well, usually though it was reserved for people that spoke barbaric languages (non-greek) as it came from the sound of what greek people heard when they spoke, bar bar bar... Thus since most people here do not speek greek we are all barbarians.
In addition, a barbarian was sometimes looked down on, but many of the people did not, and many of the wisemen we often find ourselves quoting from greece were barbarians, hmmm, how interesting. The Greek people were really a mixing pot.


In any even, Human Girl, good choice my man. :D
Korjevia
06-08-2004, 11:40
Hmm, thank you for your proving the point I was making, people that are prejudice are stupid.....

Yeah my latin may suck compared to one who spoke in Rome, but I am willing to bet you bible thumpers know less than I, in any event if you cannot read this perhaps you are not as wise and knowledgeable of the bible as you claim

You assume too many things.
First of all, I am not uneducated, I think most of the users on this forum aren't, you're certainly not the only person here who has pursued a university education, so you can get off your high horse now. Thank you.

You also assume anyone disagreeing with you is a bible-thumper by default.

Wrong. I am a communist.

Needless to say I tire of your extremely arrogant "know-it-all" attitude, and the aura of superiority you are trying to project.

I'm not going to call you stupid, I don't want to sound as immature as you, but I will tell you that you need to learn some respect.
Playtime bunnies
06-08-2004, 12:06
I'm half white, and have grown up in a very white society, and partly cos of my father (asian heritage) being a twat (with a capital T W A and T) I've tended only to go for white guys...

Then I met my current bf... he's asian/indian descent...


but when u find someone u click with, u look beyond what race they are

if the chemistry's there and it works... who cares?!
Scencilia
06-08-2004, 12:10
You assume too many things.
First of all, I am not uneducated, I think most of the users on this forum aren't, you're certainly not the only person here who has pursued a university education, so you can get off your high horse now. Thank you.

You also assume anyone disagreeing with you is a bible-thumper by default.

Wrong. I am a communist.

Needless to say I tire of your extremely arrogant "know-it-all" attitude, and the aura of superiority you are trying to project.

I'm not going to call you stupid, I don't want to sound as immature as you, but I will tell you that you need to learn some respect.

Firstly, you claimed what I claimed, I was not specifying to anyone, I was just sick of people squabbling over what color of skin jesus was, and thus bible thumping.
Secondly I did not say everyone that disagrees with me is a bible thumper, you disagreed with me but specified nothing nor presented any arguement of what, thus I had to guess. The only thing I assumed at that point was either that of what I stated about Jesus skin color, or likely what I claimed the bible to say in a very sarcastic means due to all the thumping on the Jewish writtings.
When dealing with people that are prejudice I need not think I know more than them, as it is a given, anyone that is blind by prejudice is uneducated, I claimed no others in the forum to be so intentionally, though it may have came across that way.
I was purposefully trying to project an aura of education because I dislike people presenting counter arguments that sound like I know you are but what am I. It is irritating when people argue a point blindly and have no ground to stand on, so I wanted to mearly ensure that anyone arguing looked down first.
As for anything the best argument against me was open and obvious, and my rantings had holes everywhere, it was intended so, as it weeds out the people that can think through things and just rants over the quotes they have been told their entire life.

My reply was based in an assumption of what you were trying to tell me I was being hypocritical for as you did not specify, my appropriate responce should have been and the one I present now is what exactly was I stating and at the same time ignoring?

I am less college education then some may think, I blame that on the fact I live in the US where the education system sucks, but I am educated non the less. Most of my studies have been outside of school though, and I do not have a degree in theology though I may get one some day. Actually math and science are my strong subjects.

In any event anyone that is not acting out of prejudice against religion or race, or for that matter sex, I am sorry if you took any of my posts to try and degrade or try and propose I am better than you, I intended it more for those going around spitting ignorance of others out, and being aware that non are without prejudice I appoligize that my prejudice towards racists and facists manifested itself today.

Btw, just as a though, communism while the greatest of all idealistic governments would not work any better than idealized capitolism because we are all human and sinners, but I really wish it would.

for those interested the translation of
Sabbatis rubor est, peurae sacrificum primus est et saepe pecammant.
should be
The sabbath is red from the sacrifice of the first born and the sins of the people.

I said it in sarcasm to the idea that people actually followed what I said.

I am not here to hate, I only hope to shack people up, make them realize we are all idiots (including me), and that intelligence does not come from stating quotes but from reason and an attempt to understand. We are all humans and we can all make mistakes, forget to take time to understand, but those that never try are the ones I claim to be stupid, and thus my prejudice is that prejudice is a sign of your intelligence.

If you follow the bible remember, Judge not less ye be judge, if not it still is a good word of wisdom for anyone.

Follow the greats, Christ and Buddha who both forgave the people that caused their deaths. Realize no matter what religion you are, what skin color you are, we all look back to the same traits when we choose our saviors, every religion that has a savior is forgiving, loving, and walked amongst the criminals.
Sskiss
06-08-2004, 12:13
I'm a rather traditional individual so I chose white.
Scencilia
06-08-2004, 12:24
A random thought cause I am bored if you cannot tell:
A show, I cannot currently think of the name of, stated something to the idea that everyone should breed with other races because then no one will be able to claim racial superiority.

Personally I find it to be a boring world where everyone is the same, but if it is the only solution to stopping racism I am all for it. I still say black chicks are hot, but so are most girls, I am not very picky. Except those two from the movie white chicks, they were fugly >:).
Millawanda
06-08-2004, 12:59
While it's always good fun listening to these numbnutz, I do wish they'd try to get their facts straight.

Examples:

"DENMARK: Jews were not allowed entrance prior to the 17th century."
This is simply wrong.

Also, to the Italian/Roman supremacist: by your own definition Latins would be from Latinum, just south of Rome, so call yourself a Roman instead, please.

I do wish these guys would try reading something other than what they're fed by their "wannabe Fuhrers".

As for Girls, I'm kinda partial to Humans, myself.
Franaialy
06-08-2004, 13:16
Which race? Human.
Any other subdivision is really quite pointless.


Thank you. someone who finally has some sense in this thread
Kanabia
06-08-2004, 13:21
White. Russian to be more specific!

Russian girls are the prettiest girls in the world. :D

Heheh. Not all of them.

Though when they are fine, they are very fine.
Kanabia
06-08-2004, 13:41
Eugenics:

Mulatto IQs are generally on average 10-20 points lower than white IQs.

Black IQs are generally 20-40 points lower than white IQs.


(Go ahead and yell "cultural bias" now. But that doesn't explain why mulattoes do bad, according your theory, they have 2 cultures and should know more)

What utter, utter, racist bullshit.

Have a reliable source for that? Hah....

Those figures mean that the average black IQ is the same of mentally retarded people- 80 is considered fairly dull, but you say up to 40 points below! You claim this to be an average?!? Black people are not mentally retarded by default and can dress themselves so your argument is clearly completely wrong.

That's got to be the most stupid thing i've heard in a long while.
Scencilia
06-08-2004, 13:52
While it's always good fun listening to these numbnutz, I do wish they'd try to get their facts straight.

Also, to the Italian/Roman supremacist: by your own definition Latins would be from Latinum, just south of Rome, so call yourself a Roman instead, please.


Er, I agree with you in many things, but wish to add a clairity, or get one, either way, south of Roma, is Lavinium (A city), and Latium (a region), that I believe Roma might be a part of, but am unsue as it may be part of Ethruria. Being as one of these may have become Latinum which would it be, and secondly as I have heard it Latin was a language not a people, likely to be part of Latium, using the way Latin is structured, in Latin people and language were two different things, where today to call someone English may designate both or just one. I am not sure either way so I do not know if I am clairifying or asking for clairification or both.

Anyhow, to call yourself Latin is like calling yourself Indo-European, while both may be true, neither is really that descriptive and includes iranians and persians. Latin people would include French, Italian, Spanish, and partial English but not really, and a couple less common people. But if we use language to decide who is great, does that not mean you should speak latin to be considered latin? Thus by this stance I would be more Latin than many Italians (Though unlikely most priests and such). And we could claim most college educated people of the middle ages Latin. But in all of these they are non-descriptive of who we really are. I am America because I live in America, or am I English because I speak English, or perhaps I am English-American, but I also speak a Little Latin, so can I add that in? Or what about dutch? Mensa van de nederlanden? (I hope I got it right :D) I know I am an Alien, because I came from decendant from another country, but are we not all alien? I am more so than most as my forefathers landed in a space craft outside London back when it was just a small ocean side village (Yeah I know its not by the ocean thats cause the ocean moved when they landed).

BTW, if you don't like my sarcasm too bad :D.
I completely agree with you that this Italian/Roman supremacy is falsely held, it is the Taxarians from my home planet that are supreme.
Shaed
06-08-2004, 14:06
1) That's okay, I believe in a form of socialism. But it is not internationalist, it is ultranationalism+economic socialism combined for the greater glory of the state.


You ranked high. But the reason you should be resisting dating non-whites is because they are non-white! Not for other reasons, but the end result is you not dating them, so I guess that is fine.

But mind you I am very anti-gay (Leviticus 20:13) they should be put to death as per the bible says.

Also mind you I'm pro large family (I'd say every white couple should have 5-10 kids minimum, and raise them good. So our race can quality and quantity, not a bunch of trashy drug using whiggers, but good honest, and clean white kids)

I especially liked how you're not affiliated with the federal government.

As for your questions for me, fire away!

:D - I'll try and think up some questions today and post tonight or tomorrow, though I think you may have missed some irony VoteEarly; I think you'll find me way too left-wing for your tastes (just because I prefer English or Irish or Scottish guys doesn't mean I'm super-white-elite-yay++, for example). But yes, I must admit I'm not a fan of the federal government, all things considered.
Daroth
06-08-2004, 14:14
Or whatever you wish to call yourselves.
Do you all have light brown to blonde hair. Do you all have blue/grey/green eyes? And what about last names are they all of western european origin?
Scencilia
06-08-2004, 14:15
What utter, utter, racist bullshit.

Have a reliable source for that? Hah....

That's got to be the most stupid thing i've heard in a long while.

Kanabia,

You seem intelligence from my post, anyone that asks for a reliable source is thinking, grats man you have proven you are smarter than BA :D, not that it was hard but still.

Hehe, this goes out the BA, the average Jewish IQ is 10 points higher than the average WHITE IQ. Um hello eat that dummy. Damn I wish I were Jewish! :D

Point 1: IQ is socially bias, yeah ofcourse people from different backgrounds are going to have issues, let me have a bunch of blacks set up a test and see how you do.

Point 2: Your numbers are a bit off, in any event refer to point #1.

Just out of curriousity BA you want to measure intellect from IQ mine was a 144 last time I tested, can you even get into mensa? Do you know what Mensa is? Did you know several blacks are in Mensa and Mensa is proposing a new more culturally fair IQ test (Though it will still be somewhat bias as it is unavoidable).

I am not here to blast my IQ out there as I have met people with lower IQs that I Would much rather hang around that those with higher ones, and decided not to join the local mensa chapter because I don't believe a high IQ score means much. I actually met someone that could not add or subtract for shit but I considered them extremely intelligent, (Their IQ would be around 90 probably, if that), can you multiply, integrate, speak multiple languages? These are what IQ test actually mean. My guess is you don't know what integrate means, thats ok many people don't it just means your average.

Anyhow did you also know that most people with an IQ over 120 are far less prejudice than those under 100. Your very prejudice so I am guessing 10? :D

Wanna play a stats game, states are easy to screw with, by my research people that are racist have a 1 inch disadvantage in dick size and while you would figure the extra blood would make them smarter it seems to be the opposite.

Your a white guy right? White guys are 10 times more likely to commit rape than blacks, so you must be a rapist, me I am a massage therapist (Think dont hurt yourself).

Truth is these tests and statistics are a bunch of numbers that mean nothing to people that have not clue what they really mean, but are most often used by those same people.

Just as a side note, Jewish people are highly mathmatically based individuals, that is why they tend to have higher IQs. Just ask Albert Einstein who failed a math class. Few people would argue he was intelligent, but then I am sure you think he is.

As for animals and their IQ scores, last time I heard no animal has completed an IQ test beyind kindergarten level, as IQ is based on the grade age ratio that means someone with an IQ of 80 is about a grade behind the average, at adult levels it takes a bell curve concept clumping all adults together using z scoring which means that as you get further from 100 you get less accurate for a lot of reasons. At least the IQ test you are refering to, but there are actually 3 test, one of which I would likely test at 98-99 and feel you would be lucky to get a 40.

Once again BA babbles about something he has no knowledge of, ah to bad, so sad, proving once again that he may be white but he is not supreme.
Scencilia
06-08-2004, 14:41
What has the least in common to the others:
Bat, Dog, Cat, Elephant

First problem, the wording order can cause some people to miss animals, a small percentage of people tested will actually miss bat in their evaluation because of the simularities to cat and dog seperating them, the brain works in strange ways. Take for instance: Smoe Dcootrs can ralely do smoe good in the wlrod. Most should be able to read that fairly easy.

second:
Some people may think oh a bat, cause it flies

Some people may think oh an elephant because it is not found in America and larger than the others.

Some may again say bat because they use sound to get around

Others may say elephant because it is a herbavoir. But wait, must bats are too, not everyone knows that, and it is not because they are stupid it is because no one told them.

What if you never heard of an elephant? Many people in NY don't know what a cow is, so are farmers more likely to know the answers?

The problem, the question is culturally bias, I can choose any animal I want, for instant the Cat because it has the most control over it's tail.

How does this test your ability to analyze anything, what of the people that over analyze, they may be brilliant because they can think of so many options, but the IQ test doesn't care.

Thus in an effort to prove my point through example I hope I confused everyone because thats the whole point.

Debate it, prove me wrong, show me that there is a truely best answer :D.

I would assume about 90% say bat, flying seems to be commonly a more drastic difference, but that does not mean the other 10% are wrong, just that they did not choose the socially common answer. Don't forget the IQ test is timed, so someone that has a desease that makes muscle movement slow may be considered stupid, or for that matter someone that thinks slower but always gets the right answer would score much lower than someone that is fast and gets only 70% of the right answers. These are the arguments presented about IQ testing.

What location is IRPSA

This question is supposed to test your ability to analyze a word and reconstruct it to met the correct word (Paris). Someone that is not highly aware of international cities may have difficulties with these types of questions even though they are not supposed to be testing their geographical knowledge.

1,3,6,10,...

What is the next logical number in the series. These questions are a bit better but still recent studies show that some people think differently and can come up with different right answers. Fortunatlly over 99% of the people with the capacity for patterns will answer 15.

all biglobytes are tichins, some tichins are gobrels so all grobrels are biglobytes

This is false and another one of the better forms of questions. It is intended to test the ability to keep track of relationships, but it demands that people can take gibberish as gibberish, some people spend so much time trying to figure out the names that they get lower scores. Studies show that people score higher if they are told before hand that several gibberish words will be used in the test, showing that that small tidbit of information can drastically change the outcome of an IQ test, hmmm.
Scencilia
06-08-2004, 14:46
Or whatever you wish to call yourselves.
Do you all have light brown to blonde hair. Do you all have blue/grey/green eyes? And what about last names are they all of western european origin?
hey be nice, don't make them realize they are not part of the supreme race! :P...
Daroth
06-08-2004, 15:06
Just out of curriousity BA you want to measure intellect from IQ mine was a 144 last time I tested, can you even get into mensa? Do you know what Mensa is? Did you know several blacks are in Mensa and Mensa is proposing a new more culturally fair IQ test (Though it will still be somewhat bias as it is unavoidable).

So mensa allows you in if you have an IQ over 144?
Cool last test i had was 154
Very happy with myself right now!
Daroth
06-08-2004, 15:08
hey be nice, don't make them realize they are not part of the supreme race! :P...

Oh no!!! You mean that these ignorant fascits might realise their racial logic is based on made up ideas

Sorry people! I'm sure your all perfect little aryans.
Scencilia
06-08-2004, 15:08
So mensa allows you in if you have an IQ over 144?
Cool last test i had was 154
Very happy with myself right now![/QUOTE]


Actually if you are in the top 2%, the cut off right now is around 135 I think.
Also if that was an online or TV test you may be shocked, they are different, and Mensa has their own tests (two seperate ones in Utah) and you don't get results. If you go to a college psychology section they may allow you to test if that is not where you got your test.
Online tests can sometimes be good and sometimes be bad, out of the online tests I score anywhere from the 90s up to 190. Another reason I think the IQ test is more hype than anything :D.
But you have a good chance at getting into mensa with that score even off an online test. You can check with your local chapter for activities and testing, I didn't want to pay the fee either, but I go have sushi with em on a rare occasion.


http://www.mensa.org/
Daroth
06-08-2004, 15:16
So mensa allows you in if you have an IQ over 144?
Cool last test i had was 154
Very happy with myself right now!


Actually if you are in the top 2%, the cut off right now is around 135 I think.
Also if that was an online or TV test you may be shocked, they are different, and Mensa has their own tests (two seperate ones in Utah) and you don't get results. If you go to a college psychology section they may allow you to test if that is not where you got your test.
Online tests can sometimes be good and sometimes be bad, out of the online tests I score anywhere from the 90s up to 190. Another reason I think the IQ test is more hype than anything :D.
But you have a good chance at getting into mensa with that score even off an online test. You can check with your local chapter for activities and testing, I didn't want to pay the fee either, but I go have sushi with em on a rare occasion.


http://www.mensa.org/[/QUOTE]

Interesting. Yeah done a few of those online tests. Even did a chinese one (translated), now that was interested. Total different basis.
Talking about given scores. Done an english one, french one and a spanish one. The english were bastards, would not give me the results for some reason or other but said I scored very highly.
Scencilia
06-08-2004, 15:46
Interesting. Yeah done a few of those online tests. Even did a chinese one (translated), now that was interested. Total different basis.
Talking about given scores. Done an english one, french one and a spanish one. The english were bastards, would not give me the results for some reason or other but said I scored very highly.

That would be interesting, I will have to seek out the chineese one.
Mensa has a quick test to give you an idea if you would have a good chance or not at qualifying for mensa on their site.
Ordoo
06-08-2004, 15:55
I prefer French Norwegian thats what my lady is. :fluffle:
Scencilia
06-08-2004, 16:11
I prefer French Norwegian thats what my lady is. :fluffle:
Is she standing behind you or something, admit it you want a rainbow to be lined up for you, we all do :D.


Just kidding girls, really I want to love and hold dear a very special girl, unfortunately her latest film has increased the competition (Catwoman), ah well, some day she will be mine :D.
Doujin
07-08-2004, 05:16
1. Middle Eastern/Latino
2. People of African decent(African Americans, etc etc)
3. Asians/Caucasians to a lesser extent
Roach-Busters
07-08-2004, 05:26
That would be interesting, I will have to seek out the chineese one.
Mensa has a quick test to give you an idea if you would have a good chance or not at qualifying for mensa on their site.

Link?
Roach-Busters
07-08-2004, 05:27
Oddly enough, as an Asian, I prefer White girls. I'm also NOT attracted to Asian girls.

Phew! (Wipes sweat from forehead) That's a little less competition... :D
Ancients of Mu Mu
07-08-2004, 05:30
Link?

I second that. Then I can get all depressed when I find out that I'm not really as smart as I think I am. :D

I have a really short attention span and those stupid IQ-test puzzle things shit me to tears. :(
Gunthor
07-08-2004, 05:34
1. African-American (hyphen necessary?)
2. Asian
3. The Northern portion of Europe (Russia, Sweden, Norway etc., but adding France)

I dunno why.
Kerubia
07-08-2004, 05:39
I only thought there was one race--human.
Ancients of Mu Mu
07-08-2004, 05:40
I only thought there was one race--human.
Sheep? :confused:
Roach-Busters
07-08-2004, 05:44
I have a really short attention span and those stupid IQ-test puzzle things shit me to tears. :(

Same here! :(
Ancients of Mu Mu
07-08-2004, 05:49
Same here! :(

[stares vaguely into space, watching dust particles float in the sunlight]

Huh? :confused:
East Islandia
07-08-2004, 05:49
1. White
2. Hispanic, Mixed, Other
3. Black

I'm not attracted to Asians.


HAHHA MORE FOR ME, BIZATCH!

jpjp

but honestly tho, i dont mind that much. I mean, I've only gone out with Azn girls so far (i am azn myself) and i havent had the chance to go out wit white girls

Thing is, my friends and i have noticed that, in America, an unfair balance exists: Azn girls go out wit white guys, but white gurls dont even look at azn guys (if you start with the size thing, i swear i'll hunt u down and cut off ur package).

Can someone tell me why is that?
Doujin
07-08-2004, 06:01
HAHHA MORE FOR ME, BIZATCH!

jpjp

but honestly tho, i dont mind that much. I mean, I've only gone out with Azn girls so far (i am azn myself) and i havent had the chance to go out wit white girls

Thing is, my friends and i have noticed that, in America, an unfair balance exists: Azn girls go out wit white guys, but white gurls dont even look at azn guys (if you start with the size thing, i swear i'll hunt u down and cut off ur package).

Can someone tell me why is that?

Asians have small 'packages', black dudes have huge 'packages' :)
Ancients of Mu Mu
07-08-2004, 06:03
Asians have small 'packages', black dudes have huge 'packages' :)
So has somebody actually done a study into this? :eek:
East Islandia
07-08-2004, 06:10
Asians have small 'packages', black dudes have huge 'packages' :)

ugh... so that is the real reason eh?

pshh.. i got skills...i can use it better than some guy with a huge blak stick
Doujin
07-08-2004, 06:22
ugh... so that is the real reason eh?

pshh.. i got skills...i can use it better than some guy with a huge blak stick

This guy I'm dating now.. 8.5" long 3.5 " thick :D
East Islandia
07-08-2004, 06:24
u measured? wow

o btw, would u mind if i asked ur sex and nationality? only if u want to give me that personal information of course

im trying to win a bet wit my optimistic friend
Doujin
07-08-2004, 06:25
u measured? wow

o btw, would u mind if i asked ur sex and nationality? only if u want to give me that personal information of course

im trying to win a bet wit my optimistic friend

Trying to win a bet? ... gimme some details :p
Avia
07-08-2004, 06:28
I usually go after white guys... but it doesn't really make a difference to me. Other things turn me on, skin color doesn't really make a difference.
I dig guys who are musical... with pretty eyes... and sweet... and loves me as much as i them..

and something random I've noticed, I'm usually very attracted to jewish guys.. anyone care to explain? i don't understand it. the vast majority of crushes i've had recently are jewish guys. or jewish-looking. and musicians. with pretty eyes.

its peculiar.
East Islandia
07-08-2004, 06:32
Trying to win a bet? ... gimme some details :p


Since im cynical and hes not, im betting him that i can find more instances of stereotypes coming into play in relationships.

can u tell me if ur gonna answer my questions from before? u dont have to if u dont want to, but i really need another instance...i think i might win.
East Islandia
07-08-2004, 06:34
o yea... love... haha i dont think it exists, so i gues thats more of a quandary for me, eh?
Doujin
07-08-2004, 06:50
Since im cynical and hes not, im betting him that i can find more instances of stereotypes coming into play in relationships.

can u tell me if ur gonna answer my questions from before? u dont have to if u dont want to, but i really need another instance...i think i might win.

You do? Well, I'm a white 17 year old male
Goed
07-08-2004, 07:28
HAHHA MORE FOR ME, BIZATCH!

jpjp

but honestly tho, i dont mind that much. I mean, I've only gone out with Azn girls so far (i am azn myself) and i havent had the chance to go out wit white girls

Thing is, my friends and i have noticed that, in America, an unfair balance exists: Azn girls go out wit white guys, but white gurls dont even look at azn guys (if you start with the size thing, i swear i'll hunt u down and cut off ur package).

Can someone tell me why is that?


**pauses**

YES!
Xiaguo
09-08-2004, 19:22
1.Asian
2.Asian
3.Asian
Dannageness
09-08-2004, 19:31
hmm.. anyone who looks good naked... :)

sadly I go for looks as much as other people, which is a shame in the reverse case, because I'm told I'm really very good at what I do and I'm very .. er.. giving... problem is, cos I'm ugly as a dog's arse, all the beautiful women that laugh at me in nightclubs are missing out on serious quantities of multiples here.... :fluffle:

I just need to start with "I know I'm ugly, but give me half an hour in bed and you can either stop and send me home or I can finish you off... in about sisxteen hours. :) "...

... well done dannage, you shared too much and it's only your second post...
Biff Pileon
09-08-2004, 19:33
My girlfriend is Japanese....so I would have to say...Japanese.
Power and War
09-08-2004, 19:35
well anyone who knows me is gonna know my answere


WHITE, the only pure race.
Spurland
09-08-2004, 19:35
Most of my g/fs have been somewhat dark. Had a white g/f too. But I really couldnt care about race.

And btw, am of mixed backround, white/asian.
Roach-Busters
09-08-2004, 20:15
1.Asian
2.Asian
3.Asian

You have VERY good taste!
Ashmoria
09-08-2004, 20:22
hmm.. anyone who looks good naked... :)

sadly I go for looks as much as other people, which is a shame in the reverse case, because I'm told I'm really very good at what I do and I'm very .. er.. giving... problem is, cos I'm ugly as a dog's arse, all the beautiful women that laugh at me in nightclubs are missing out on serious quantities of multiples here.... :fluffle:

I just need to start with "I know I'm ugly, but give me half an hour in bed and you can either stop and send me home or I can finish you off... in about sisxteen hours. :) "...

... well done dannage, you shared too much and it's only your second post...

well then its a damned good thing you are butt ugly or you would never get out of bed

now stop advertising!
imported_Ralle
09-08-2004, 20:59
Also you should make sure the woman can properly answer all the following.


1) Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party?

2) Are you now or have you ever been involved in an interracial relationship?

3) Are you now or have you ever been involved in drug use, possession, or selling?

4) Are you now or have you ever been charged with a felony or other serious crime?

5) Are you now of have you ever been engaged in homosexual or bisexual activities?

6) Are you now or have you ever been convicted of a sexual offense?

7) Are you now or have you ever been convicted of a crime against a child?

8) Are you now or have you ever been an employee of the federal government?

9) Are you now or have you ever been a member of a non-Christian religion?

10) Are you now or have you ever been addicted to any drug such as alcohol or narcotics?

11) Is any of your ancestry non-european?

That's about all the questions I can think of right now, it's beyond 3 am.

But, if a woman can answer no to all 11 of them, she's probably safe to be with.

So much for the power of love eh? I think you should lax your demands. If for nothing else, then because you only live once, and it would be sad to pass up a good offer for principles, that does not really matter in the big game of life anyways (live -> die)

For myself: Oooh tough one.
Actually i dont really think i have any conscious preferences.
But maybe just maybe im a sucker for black/dark people.
However i like them with cacausian features, i just loooove their brown skin. But i am probably biased since i live right next to the hottest 18 year old, with the sweetest brown skin, you will ever see. She is greek by the way.
If they look nice and are nice, i will take them.
Big billy
09-08-2004, 21:07
People shoul'd not date other races it is wrong,you shoul'd date your race only otherwise you may end up with mongrel kids who dont know who they belong with.
You need to think of the children in all of this.
Iztatepopotla
09-08-2004, 21:16
People shoul'd not date other races it is wrong,you shoul'd date your race only otherwise you may end up with mongrel kids who dont know who they belong with.
You need to think of the children in all of this.

Yes! Your kid might end up like me, a mixture of white European, red American and maybe even some black African thrown in for good measure, so mixed up that it's impossible to tell how much of each. And almost the whole country is like that! Heck! Almost the whole continent!

Although kids don't grow up too confused because most people there don't build stupid artificial barriers between races. That only happens in backward, uncivilized places.
Xiaguo
09-08-2004, 21:17
I had a Chinese gf. And that's it. I hate those girls to talk too much jack.
Bereavia
09-08-2004, 21:46
Doesn't matter what race the dude is, as long as he's good to me
Kanabia
10-08-2004, 15:12
People shoul'd not date other races it is wrong,you shoul'd date your race only otherwise you may end up with mongrel kids who dont know who they belong with.
You need to think of the children in all of this.

Umm...they belong with the human race.

Children dont see race, only other children. In primary school, In addition to white friends, I had asian friends, muslim friends, etc. It really does not matter.
L a L a Land
10-08-2004, 16:19
People shoul'd not date other races it is wrong,you shoul'd date your race only otherwise you may end up with mongrel kids who dont know who they belong with.
You need to think of the children in all of this.

You do know that there isn't any races, don't you?

It's a fact that if you compair the genetics between a european and an african you will come up with a nmber of differances, yes. But compair the genetics of the same european/african with another european/african you will find 9 out of 10 differances in this compairence as in the first. So, you are more or less as different from your best friend/whatever then someone who comes from a different continent.
Communist Mississippi
19-08-2004, 23:09
Umm...they belong with the human race.

Children dont see race, only other children. In primary school, In addition to white friends, I had asian friends, muslim friends, etc. It really does not matter.


Not true, as a small child, I always saw race.
Al4khr1v3st4n
19-08-2004, 23:15
Human, it's difficult to mate with any others.

If you did see that as a child, you were one messed up kid.
A Dead Cat
19-08-2004, 23:18
1. White
2. White
3. White

As a White girl, I like to stick with my own race. ;)
Al4khr1v3st4n
19-08-2004, 23:21
Human? Or do morons have have their own species now? Intra-human "races" are a myth.
Communist Mississippi
19-08-2004, 23:29
1. White
2. White
3. White

As a White girl, I like to stick with my own race. ;)


Right on!
Sarah Jabs
22-09-2004, 03:38
white
white
and white
New Fubaria
22-09-2004, 03:43
Does that mean three at once?
Unito
22-09-2004, 04:11
When taking in to consideration preference of race, one must consider the Anthropological and Instinctual implications therein. There are only 3 main categories as far as anthropology goes: Negroid (Africans Usually), Caucasoid (Western Europeans Mostly) and Mongoloid (Asians).

Peoples native to the americas are generally a deviant classification of Mongoloid, that has, over time, become more Caucasoid. However, after the genetic invasion of the americas by Caucasoid groups, the difference is negligable, since it is almost impossible to find a native american that does not have Caucasoid genetic tendency. Indian people are actually a mix of Caucasoid and Mongoloid, because, at some time in the early, primitive developement of the region, Blonde-Haired, Blue-Eyed groups migrated to the region. The two "races" intermingled, thereby created a hybrid group. The mainland asian gene pool has only recently (past ~3000 years) been invaded by the Caucasoid genetic pool, and, because the infiltration has been great, the stigma associated with the intermingling of Caucasoids and Mongoloids has become almost non-existent. Negroids have almost always stuck to themselves, thereby creating an almost completely seperate gene pool. And though there has been extremely recent infiltration (~300 years) of said gene pool by the Caucasoid group, most of the actual "mingling" has ended up making the Negroid gene pool part of the Caucasoid, and not vice-versa. This is probably why there is such a stigma about the combining of the Caucasoid and Negroid classifications.

Get it?
Shizensky
22-09-2004, 04:46
My girlfriend's Native American so I've got a bias on this one.
Unito
22-09-2004, 04:53
My girlfriend's Native American so I've got a bias on this one.
that you like your girlfriend or that you prefer native americans?
Snowboarding Maniacs
22-09-2004, 04:57
My favorites: Indian, Greek, and mulattos (is that even an acceptable term these days, or is it not P.C.?). I guess I just love the brown skin :D

I'm white, by the way.
Texas and Colorado
22-09-2004, 05:03
White simple as that.
Shizensky
22-09-2004, 05:11
that you like your girlfriend or that you prefer native americans?

well i've never really been one to care about race, to be honest. I actually thought she was mexican at first, until i looked at her for more than 2 seconds anyway. but since we've started dating i've noticed that i've grown attracted to pronounced cheekbones.
Kernlandia
22-09-2004, 05:39
i dunno. don't really have a preference one way or the other. given that i've grown up in a small, white, conservative town, i've only really been exposed to other white kids. but i'd definitely hook up with anyone who met my standards, no matter what race.
Independent Homesteads
22-09-2004, 15:23
People shoul'd not date other races it is wrong,you shoul'd date your race only otherwise you may end up with mongrel kids who dont know who they belong with.
You need to think of the children in all of this.

I didn't know people like this were real, or that they would really say "think of the children". I thought it was a joke. My favourite race to date is "mongrel" as it goes, desi-white mixed. But race isn't everything.
Independent Homesteads
22-09-2004, 15:26
So has somebody actually done a study into this? :eek:

Yes, lots of people have studied it. But try googling "penis size study" and see what you get. On average, black penis bigger than white and white bigger than yellow. The lady parts similarly.
Raishann
22-09-2004, 17:00
Hmm...I haven't done a lot of dating, but from that experience and what I know I find attractive...

I can't rank these groups against each other, but I've noticed the majority of men I found attractive tend to have at least some blood from one of these groups: Hispanic, Asian (this includes both the Far East and places like India), or Middle Eastern.

There are some white men I find attractive, too, but I don't like paleness. Never mind that I myself am quite pale--I don't like it much on guys, for whatever reason. Nor does blond or red hair do anything for me. So for a white man to be attractive to me, he generally needs to have dark hair, and a darker complexion. Oh, and one other factor...I have studied the Spanish language in great depth, so that may also prevent some cultural misunderstandings that otherwise might be problematic between people of "European" and Hispanic descent. I don't expect there to be no differences, of course, but I imagine that being nearly bilingual could only be helpful.

(Note: I didn't study Spanish just for dating reasons...I mainly started studying simply out of a love for language studies.)
Hakenium
22-09-2004, 19:07
white and I am white. Nothing against colors. I don't know it quite what they have special. A certain je-ne-sais-qoui, like americans say. A whit girl with black hear, mmm...
Revolutionairy Ideals
22-09-2004, 20:01
Why cant you Americans spell ColoUr right damn you?
UltimateEnd
22-09-2004, 20:07
1) Because we aren't stuck up Brits or French Canadians
2) As long as my girlfriend isn't French I don't care
Revolutionairy Ideals
22-09-2004, 20:16
And we aint arrogent yanks! ;)

No, its not a matter of being stuck up, its a matter of spelling the word correctly, why not do it?
Joe Gas
22-09-2004, 20:34
Nascar!!!!
Joe Gas
22-09-2004, 20:38
And we aint arrogent yanks! ;)

No, its not a matter of being stuck up, its a matter of spelling the word correctly, why not do it?

AHHH *&%(* Dont call us GOD DAMN YANKS!

I'm an American, not a F*&@#N YANK! If you want to stand in front of me and look me in the eye and call me a yank you'll be looking down the sight of my 12 guage shot gun!

I'm from Virginia, there is NOTHING you could call me worse then a GOD DAMN YANK!

As for what race... agian... NASCAR!
United White Front
22-09-2004, 21:24
ASIAN

No other kind. Although, if there were no Asians, I'd prefer them in the following order:

1.Hispanic
2.TIE: Native American, Mixed, Black, Pacific Islander
3.White

Don't mean to sound racist, but even though I'm white, I'm just not a white girl man...
traiotor to your race

one and only one for me
white
Revolutionairy Ideals
22-09-2004, 21:42
Traitor to your race? Pardon? Did he swear allegiance to his 'race' and pledge only to sleep with White Girls? Or do you mean he is attempting to cross breed with another animal (I hear Sheep are popular) which would make him a traitor to our race, the only race there is, the Human race.

O yeh, sorry about that, I know that both Southern States (which I think Virginia is one, no?) people and Mets fans hate being called Yanks. My point about correct spelling still stands.

EDIT: Thank you, problem corrected.
United White Front
22-09-2004, 21:44
Traitor to your race? Pardon? Did he swear allegiance to his 'race' and pledge only to sleep with White Girls? Or do you mean he is attempting to cross breed with another animal (I hear Sheep are popular) which would make him a traitor to our race, the only race there is, the Human race.

O yeh, sorry about that, I know that both Southern States (which I think Virginia is one, no?) people and Metz fans hate being called Yanks. My point about correct spelling still stands.
there is no z in mets it an s
New Fubaria
23-09-2004, 01:28
Wow, good comeback.

P.S. You might want to start your sentences with capital letters. ;)
Kleptonis
23-09-2004, 01:32
Asian or white mostly, but anything will work for me.
J_y_n_x_420
23-09-2004, 01:37
1. White
2. Asian
3. Not doing anything but giving me head.

I can't stand black girls, too fucking loud, and you wanna talk about white girls slutty? Take a look at hispanic girls. All the ones I know are sluts, don't just look like it. Every white girl I've been with was a virgin, cept one.
Big Jim P
23-09-2004, 01:40
It used to be a toss-up between sheep and goats, until I saw my first Llama. :D
Skibereen
23-09-2004, 01:42
Married now.
However back in the ...
Strange is what I prefered, most prefered was someone elses Strange.
Black, White,Asian(hot),Hispanic, whatever.
Beautiful is Beautiful, not is not.
Females are the only thing that kept me from being racist.J/K.
To be a complete pig about the whole thing, I loved the bangtails, all of them.
Human Federation
23-09-2004, 01:47
well, i would chose a whit girl but then again, i am a skinny white guy wiht glasses and acne and no scoil status at school so i gues i am going to stay wiht my right hand, i dont want to be mean to my left but it had its chance and the rihgt one is more comfortable...man i suck :mad: ...i should dop this to my self :mp5:
Spadeistan
23-09-2004, 02:04
For marriage it doesn't matter, but as physical attraction goes I have a thing for east Indians and Asians.

The lead in Bend it Like Beckhem was money.
United White Front
23-09-2004, 02:26
Wow, good comeback.

P.S. You might want to start your sentences with capital letters. ;)
na i only use caps when i yell
Chodolo
23-09-2004, 02:31
well, i would chose a whit girl but then again, i am a skinny white guy wiht glasses and acne and no scoil status at school so i gues i am going to stay wiht my right hand, i dont want to be mean to my left but it had its chance and the rihgt one is more comfortable...man i suck :mad: ...i should dop this to my self :mp5:

So you're an equal opportunist then? You support affirmative action for your left hand even though it is less qualified for the *job* then your right?

How do you think that makes your left hand feel (besides sore)? Your left hand is burdened under the constant knowledge that the only reason it is getting the privelege is because it is your LEFT...

It's just continuing the cycle of bigotry against left hands, IMO.
Kleptonis
23-09-2004, 02:53
So you're an equal opportunist then? You support affirmative action for your left hand even though it is less qualified for the *job* then your right?

How do you think that makes your left hand feel (besides sore)? Your left hand is burdened under the constant knowledge that the only reason it is getting the privelege is because it is your LEFT...

It's just continuing the cycle of bigotry against left hands, IMO.
My left hand does like all that sticky crap going all over it. It would rather be unemployed. My right hand is a bit of a pervert though. :D
UltimateEnd
23-09-2004, 21:08
And we aint arrogent yanks! ;)

No, its not a matter of being stuck up, its a matter of spelling the word correctly, why not do it?
Because, American english differs from British english...As for wondering why we don't spell correctly I would ask you the same question because "arrogent" is spelled arrogant.
Revolutionairy Ideals
23-09-2004, 21:30
Ahh, but I dont spell correctly because I'm an idiot, I dont pretend that when I misspell a word it is just a different variation of the language.

Life would be a lot simpler if we all just spelt words the same way, and since the language was British first, then it would make sence to spell it that (the British) way.
Lascivious Maximus
23-09-2004, 21:38
this is sort of a screwed up thread, whether its intended or not, its seams are plump full of predjudice.

i like hot girls, a hot girl is hot if shes black, white, yellow, red, tan, purple or even blue.

(though i havent seen any blue or purple ones yet... hmmm)
Moonshine
23-09-2004, 21:43
Human would be preferable, but you never know, there may be some particularly hot aliens out there.
Lascivious Maximus
23-09-2004, 21:49
Human would be preferable, but you never know, there may be some particularly hot aliens out there.

yes, i prefer humans myself - but then, ive never boinked an alien either - who knows.
Sploddygloop
23-09-2004, 22:38
Which race? Human.
Any other subdivision is really quite pointless.
Though it's handy to spot the ones who say "White only" so we can laugh at 'em. What d'yer reckon it is that makes people concerned about race? Can't be innate, no other species that I know of is so fussy about superficial differences.