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your not even trying to make quality topics anymore, are you?

your not even trying to make quality topics anymore, are you?
Not right now waiting for someone to show up saying this is a stuipd topic then I will start trying agian.

We need less gun control, limiting guns or banning guns only leads to a bad things.

Not right now waiting for someone to show up saying this is a stuipd topic then I will start trying agian.
*shrug*

ahh well...not like your topics are totally different from all the others.

Not right now waiting for someone to show up saying this is a stuipd topic then I will start trying agian.
I'm not gonna hang around this topic to see if some moron starts arguing for prohibition of guns for private citizens. But once that happens, let me just give you my opinion.

1. If you prohibit guns, bad people will always find a way to get their hands on illegal weapons.
2. If by some ways you were able to prohibit bad people from getting weapons on the black market, then you'd get killed with sharp weapons. And I don't know about you, but I'd much rather get shot to death than stabbed to death.

Not right now waiting for someone to show up saying this is a stuipd topic then I will start trying agian.
This is a stupid topic. Start trying.

This is a stupid topic. Start trying.
Damn you work ethic damn you.

NO GUN CONTROL!!!!

Guns don't kill people!
Bullets don't kill people!!
People kill people!!!

:sniper: :mp5: :gundge: :gundge: :mp5: :sniper:

Gun Control will never work until we start puting in little styrofoam boxs were all is well, gun control will never end up effecting the black market sense it is totaly illegal any way I don't think they care much,It limts what people can do inside the law to protect themselves, when i don't have a gun and you draw one on me i am pretty much doomed. Their I did some duty.

If we just charged like $100 per bullet, people would be a lot less likely to go off shooting people...

If we just charged like $100 per bullet, people would be a lot less likely to go off shooting people...
yes but I doubt the suppliers would uh comply :sniper:

yes but I doubt the supllers would uh comply
I doubt I know what a supllers is...

Less gun control.

I doubt I know what a supllers is...
Changed it.

If we just charged like $100 per bullet, people would be a lot less likely to go off shooting people...

Didn't Chris Rock say something like that?

"We don't need gun control, we need bullet control. Bullets need to cost $10000. If a bullet cost $10000 you would miss with that $H!+."

For the most part, countries that have a major problem with people shooting each other usually has a deeper problem at heart.

surprised most say less. I say none. Read what the founders wanted it is not for government to be involved in. I say we ease and repeal laws dealing with guns!

A prevalence of guns actually cuts down on violence. Look at Switzerland, they have a law requiring every man between the ages of 20 to 42 to possess a firearm and they have shooting contests for preteens and teens. Yet they have a homicide rate of 1.2 per 100,000, a robbery rate of under 40 per 100,000, and have never had a school massacre.

In a related note, the Anti-Assault Weapons Act is about to expire (within a few weeks) so there will be a window of opportunity for the citizens to take out an insurence policy on liberty and stock-up on military-grade weapons before the federal gov't shuts the 2nd Amendment back down.

I wonder... will this cause the ATF (aided by the Marines, or even Blackwater) to stage another publicity stunt like Ruby Ridge or Waco?


you can have my guns from my cold dead hands

I'd strongly pro-gun, and own a number of guns myself (technically my Dad owns them, but my poor ass still has to pay for em), but I don't see how the 2nd amendment gives anyone the right to go out and buy a gun for whatever reason they please. Sure, I own guns, but I don't consider myself part of a "regulated militia", and the people that do kind of scare me (the Aryan Union could be considered a regulated militia, but I sure as hell don't want them to have guns!). However, as my vote on this poll will tell you, I'm in support of less gun control. Funny thing, all the reasons I give have already been stated! Maybe people aren't as stupid as I thought.

Too many people equate "gun control" with "taking away all guns." The NRA is especially bad about that.

When I think of gun control, I think of this--I don't want someone with a record of violent crime or someone with mental issues being able to go into a Wal-Mart, or worse, a gun show, and walk out with a firearm of any type. Yes, there is the problem of the black market, but the black market has always existed and will continue into the foreseeable future. At the very least we can catch the people too stupid to go to the black market and we can tighten up the supply some.

'Militia' in the 18th century meant every able bodied person.
'Well-regulated' was intended by the founding fathers to mean "knowing what in the pookes to do with themselves in a fight" (periphrased) not "let''s have rules and regulations so multitudinous nobody ever gets their hands on a gun.
Some people contend that pro-gun people only want guns to protect themselves from the government. They say that like its a blasphemously Bad Thing not to trust your govt. The 2nd Ammendment was intended by thae Founding Fathers for that very purpose.

However, the founding fathers also assumed that the majority of people would be well educated and good christians. A certain amount of gun laws are needed, but nothing like we have now.

No gun control at all would be good. Give the people fully automatic rifles and tanks and carry around a mac-10 for self defense.

I'm in favour of the same level of gun control as we have here in Britain. We can't exactly have more, unless we start taking them off the soldiers.

When was the last time you heard of a shooting at a school in Britain? The last time it happened was Dunblane, and that's almost a decade ago, before we reformed gun laws. Why in the hell do people not make this connection between people emptying clips into their class mates or ex-co-workers and the availability of guns? Why is the idea always that some hoody might run up in your house and bust a cap in your ass? Which is silly, because it's more likely to be YOUR cap from YOUR gun that he busts in your ass.

Muggers and dealers aren't stupid, they know the filth will be all other the place if there's a murder, but no pig's going to break into a sweat over a stolen Rolex or an ounce of pot.

I believe in absoltute gun control - meaning hitting your target every single time. Anything less is a waste.

And so I voted less for the poll, understanding that "gun control" is an incorrect retorical term for ignoring the 2nd amendment (what part of "shall not be infringed" did you not understand?)

Guns don't kill people, the government does.

aye this is a stupid topic. but by the by, i hate guns. im flamin treehugging pacifistic hippie scum. but i dont think we need much more gun control. granted the 2nd ammendment is outdated, we dont need a bleedin millitia, and granted people really dont need semi-automatic assualt rifles, but i believe it is a right to own a gun if u want to. i wont, but thats my personal choice and i dont want to force it on people.

I believe in absoltute gun control - meaning hitting your target every single time. Anything less is a waste.

And so I voted less for the poll, understanding that "gun control" is an incorrect retorical term for ignoring the 2nd amendment (what part of "shall not be infringed" did you not understand?)
the part were it said u need a fully automatic sub-machinegun

why should I not own a fully automatic rifle?

The Second amendment guarantees by right to bear arms and says the government cannot infinge upon that.

I'm for less gun control in general, and increased awareness and familiarity with guns in our culture. However, I'm not for the ability of ex-cons to go out and legally obtain weapons, especially violent criminal types. There are limits, though; I'm not for mind-control devices or psychological tests that only "happy" people can buy guns either.

The fact that a majority on this poll are for less gun control surprises me. On the anticapitalist polls the folks who want to control every facet of the economy seem to have a majority. I wonder if any of those people are voting for government control over the economy, but total legalization of guns. Makes me wonder if some people are just completely off their rocker.

Iam danish.. we arent allowed to have guns exept for hunting purposes or sporting purposes.. if hunting then you have to be checked every other year or so and if youre in it for the sport then you can go to the club and shoot off a few rounds but you sure as hell cant take the gun with you out..
(not that any one could stop you.. but you would be arrestet)


the news today were cancelled and set over to a live interviewer because a dead body had bin found... this is a very big thing in Denmark since we only have about 100 murders per year.. and 99% of these are instink murders.. where a guy takes knife and stabs his cheating wife.. but we almost neve have gun shooting !... also folded knifes with blades longer than like 5 cm are illegal..

people kill people ?.. right... but people use tools to kill the other people for fuck sake !...

if iam in a fight and i got a gun iam more likely to use it than if i didnt...

but theres a 50% chance that it isnt me in the fight that has a gun right...

i would prefere my chances with fists then !

ps. we had our first "serial killer" in the true version of the words a few years back.. an american...

funny thing is... you can own a fully automatic weapon here in the states, honestly with all the gun control laws inplace, nothing is really banned. What they did was regulate the hell out of it so that no one be willing to go through the hoops required to own them.

I know because I own a fully automatic .45 thompson, leagally.

Gun control is good because it helps prevent innocent bystanders from being hit due to the lower frequency of stray bullets from having a higher accuracy.

funny thing is... you can own a fully automatic weapon here in the states, honestly with all the gun control laws inplace, nothing is really banned. What they did was regulate the hell out of it so that no one be willing to go through the hoops required to own them.

I know because I own a fully automatic .45 thompson, leagally.
with the voting down of the renewal of the civilians weapon ban you can pretty much own any damn thing you want now, i dont thibnk you could before

funny thing is... you can own a fully automatic weapon here in the states, honestly with all the gun control laws inplace, nothing is really banned. What they did was regulate the hell out of it so that no one be willing to go through the hoops required to own them.

I know because I own a fully automatic .45 thompson, leagally.

What class of FFL is that again? (just wondering)

personally i got rid of my guns several years ago,just after i realized i did not really need them ,if you want to kill someone use the number one weapon,a car
you nail your victim ,claim you lost control due to a distraction,catch a fine and are go to go again next week

I have several friends who are gun enthusiasts..one has an entire room of his house transformed into an armory (that's what he did in the army anyway, he was an armorer)...CAR-15's, Spas-15 auto shotguns, MP-5 with silencer, Colt. 45, Beretta 9mm, Ruger stainless steel 10mm, a working Vickers submachine gun, a Bren, a Sten submachinegun, a Hawken .50 replica blackpowder rifle, Mossberg 870 Shotgun...whew...and those are just the ones I remember..

(what part of "shall not be infringed" did you not understand?)
the part were it said u need a fully automatic sub-machinegun

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Ahem, where does it say "excepot for a fully automatic sub-machiengun"?

"The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed is pretty clear. Which words didn't you understand? rights? people? shall not? or infringed?