NationStates Jolt Archive

How many of you NS veterans believe that the Jolt Transfer (and frankly, downgrade in many respects) has killed NationStates? Something about this new forum just seems... lacking. I mean, we should be able to open things up now! Where's the search function? The Egosearch!!

Granted, I realize it is slowly speeding up, but has Jolt just killed NS for you, in any way? Please share!

No. I rather enjoy not having to suffer from a slow server anymore.

Being able to actually access the forums when I'm online is a massive improvement over the old server, I never used any of the other features myself...

And you still can do ego searches. Just click on your name and choose the appropriate function. Plus the old search function never realy worked anyway.

Where's the search function? The Egosearch!!

look at the top. there's a bunch of little buttons. one says search. search to your heart's content - though only once every couple minutes. and then there is the list of things you've posted in. it can be found under profile, also at the top.

it is both good and evil. Good because its faster. Bad because there are more hosers mucking things up.

I agree that it's nice to not get error messages 2 out of 3 times I try to load a page (especially if I'm trying to post something)
And though I do miss some things, I think access is more important

Wasn't there a thread somewhere a long time ago detailing the end of NS?

I like the new forum, it's faster and has better post functions. However... people aren't RPing like the used to. There's something lacking, I agree.

oh....but for whatever reason the topics all just seem crappier
I don't know why that is....
it's like the time off just threw us out of whack

oh....but for whatever reason the topics all just seem crappier
I don't know why that is....
it's like the time off just threw us out of whack

Exactly.

look at the top. there's a bunch of little buttons. one says search. search to your heart's content - though only once every couple minutes. and then there is the list of things you've posted in. it can be found under profile, also at the top.
*shocK*

I didn't notice!

*stuggles to remove foot from mouth*

I don't know if the topics are crappier, but they're certainly more hateful. No one wants to discuss anything anymore, just score points of off shouting down everyone who disagrees with them. Granted, this happened a lot on the old server as well, but it seems more pronounced now. The religious threads are particularly ugly from both sides.

I think the overall site graphics have improved, and the speed improvement is a wonderful plus. Just about the only compliment I can give to the forums is its speed...it's a pity how much autonomous-uh...autonomous-ness...we gave up when we moved to Jolt.

It's like we used to be an exciting local small business, whose service wasn't excellent (speed) but was loved by a large number of people, and now we've been absorbed into the pre-made fabric of some global conglomerate...also well-respected, but not unique and exciting like we used to be...anyone following my analogy? Ah, never mind...:P

Maybe it just needs time.

*shocK*

I didn't notice!

*stuggles to remove foot from mouth*

its ok, it took me awhile to see that too

I think the overall site graphics have improved, and the speed improvement is a wonderful plus. Just about the only compliment I can give to the forums is its speed...it's a pity how much autonomous-uh...autonomous-ness...we gave up when we moved to Jolt.

It's like we used to be an exciting local small business, whose service wasn't excellent (speed) but was loved by a large number of people, and now we've been absorbed into the pre-made fabric of some global conglomerate...also well-respected, but not unique and exciting like we used to be...anyone following my analogy? Ah, never mind...:P

I'm following, and I agree.

I feel the banning of anything remotely resembling "fun" might have something to do with it. Any thread that is not a serious religious/political/sexual debate (and I use the term loosely, since most of the topics on General are just thinly diguised flaming) is considered spam and deated/locked. Someone up there needs to get out more and enjoy life

I miss word games. :(

I miss word games. :(

You now have a spam forum where you can post utter crap all you like.

You now have a spam forum where you can post utter crap all you like.

Sheesh, that was unnecessarily hostile.

I like the new forum, it's faster and has better post functions. However... people aren't RPing like the used to. There's something lacking, I agree.

i had assumed that it was something to do with the onset of summer (for many of us), exams, universities shutting up shop until October...

the number of nations in West Pacific, for eg, has gone from 158 to 121 in a short time. That degree of loss is being felt by most regions i'm involved in.

I also assumed that someone 'up there' had taken that into account when deciding when to do the actual move...

my guess is that come October/November things will hot up again and the place will be humming by Jan/Feb next year

but yeah...something is lacking...

Aw, come on it's not that bad. I mean what made the last forum good that we're missing? I would like to know. Maybe all the excitement has killed stuff for a while, maybe time will heal.

i had assumed that it was something to do with the onset of summer (for many of us), exams, universities shutting up shop until October...

the number of nations in West Pacific, for eg, has gone from 158 to 121 in a short time. That degree of loss is being felt by most regions i'm involved in.

I had assumed that someone 'up there' had taken that into account when deciding when to do the actual move...

my guess is that come October/November things will hot up again and the place will be humming by Jan/Feb next year

Yeah, exactly. I think we need to just wait, and in the meantime try to liven things up with some decent RPs.

Aw, come on it's not that bad. I mean what made the last forum good that we're missing? I would like to know. Maybe all the excitement has killed stuff for a while, maybe time will heal.

i can only speak about General - take O'Reillys and the Sunrise Tower Club. There was almost always someone there posting and very often a number of people

it was great - when the server allowed - cos there was loads of interaction between people who were regular posters and were used to each other. We had a history and at times it was almost like we were actually together. Chatting but some RP too.

go to the Paradise Club (the Jolt equivalent) now and it's dead

Many regulars have just disappeared from the General Forum...i kinda miss them even if they did rant occasionally :)

You now have a spam forum where you can post utter crap all you like.
Heard it :headbang:

i can only speak about General - take O'Reillys and the Sunrise Tower Club. There was almost always someone there posting and very often a number of people

it was great - when the server allowed - cos there was loads of interaction between people who were regular posters and were used to each other. We had a history and at times it was almost like we were actually together. Chatting but some RP too.

go to the Paradise Club (the Jolt equivalent) now and it's dead

Many regulars have just disappeared from the General Forum...i kinda miss them even if they did rant occasionally :)

Yeah, a lot of regulars have gone.

i can only speak about General - take O'Reillys and the Sunrise Tower Club. There was almost always someone there posting and very often a number of people

it was great - when the server allowed - cos there was loads of interaction between people who were regular posters and were used to each other. We had a history and at times it was almost like we were actually together. Chatting but some RP too.

go to the Paradise Club (the Jolt equivalent) now and it's dead

Many regulars have just disappeared from the General Forum...i kinda miss them even if they did rant occasionally :)
Same happened to us when they deated Forum 7. Some of us have formed an offsite forum but it's not the same without the random interaction of "passing trade" from the other forums.
Joltspam is not the same because it's full of people who are at best, anitpathic towards NS people, if not outright fucking hostile

JoltStates, like the sound of it?

Maybe it just needs time.


And love....


*cliche?*

JoltStates, like the sound of it?Not much. This was a really fun site when I first came across it. It's degenerated somewhat since

You now have a spam forum where you can post utter crap all you like.

But it's only fun if it's annoying the utter crap out of someone else.

And love....


*cliche?*

And lots and lots of money!

But it's only fun if it's annoying the utter crap out of someone else.

especially the mods? *innocent expression* heheheh :D

especially the mods? *innocent expression* heheheh :D
Annoying the Mods!!!? Wouldn't dream of it.

Actually I think my existence annoys the Mods :D

Um, let's see...

Pros: Server that doesn't crash every 2 minutes
Access to the other Jolt forums including the Spam forum enabling us to play wordgames & generally crap on with impunity.
This smiley - :gundge:
Being allowed to swear (at least in the jolt forums)
The NS mods appear to have finally accepted that FUA is not quite the den of iniquity that they have made it out to be and posted a link to it (albeit about a week too late as it sadly no longer exists)
Signatures
New people to meet in the Jolt forums.
This smiley - :fluffle:
The search function actually works properly
Rigorous control of threads to conserve disk-space and over-zealous moderators were killing the place

Cons:
Forums are less navigable
I miss the old familiar smileys
This place smells funny.

Yes, I can see how the place is going downhill.

It's the new design. There's subliminal messaging in it that says, "Jolt pwns j00 now!"

The new interface looks really... sparse.

True, the Forums are faster, but I live in Australia and didn't have that much trouble with the old ones anyway (ah, the wonders of Time Zones...).

Where did all the smileys go?

True, the Forums are faster, but I live in Australia and didn't have that much trouble with the old ones anyway (ah, the wonders of Time Zones...).

I too live in Australia and used to have shitloads of trouble with the server.

You now have a spam forum where you can post utter crap all you like.
huh? where?

huh? where?

In the Jolt general forums.

Nah, Jolt jolted some people out, but the improvements keep new ones coming. I can post a lot more now, and do, much to the unhappiness of liberals everywhere.

You now have a spam forum where you can post utter crap all you like.
ahh found it
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=29

I miss word games. :(


I'm still here :fluffle:

OOC: I just miss the old server... Sure, this new one is faster & far more reliable, but the interface sucks & the move turned countless players off to NS, due to the long-ass wait. Plus the search function is more of a hassle to use. I'd take the old one anyday.

Lack of decent RP content & a "Who's On" bar are killing it for me, personally. Maybe with a few updates, this might be like the old NS, but I don't see that in the near future.

I like Jolt. It doesn't stall. But the Archived threads have gone missing.

My internet connection is totally pathetic, and in the days before Jolt it took forever to load the forums. However, I learned to count on this as a fantastic method of killing time. Therefore it became something of a bonus sometimes when the page loaded for 20 minutes or so and then decided to quit, but that was cool because that's just 20 more minutes down the crapper. but now, i actually have to find something worthwhile to do with my time. So it hasn't killed NS...but it has limited its usefulness in my procrastination. My girlfriend would say that's good...i'm not so sure. hmm.

I like Jolt. It doesn't stall. But the Archived threads have gone missing.

actually...they're here. just go to Forum Jump at the bottom and scroll down, it's under Nuts and Bolts, i think.

The death of NS

So, I'm logging in, and when I complete that task, I look at the "Latest Threads" zone, and see this.

What the hell? That's kind of pessimistic.

Oh well.

I still think your ships look cool. And, perchance, what specular level do you use on that?

actually...they're here. just go to Forum Jump at the bottom and scroll down, it's under Nuts and Bolts, i think.


I did that, but there is only one thread there. I guess Jolt is still changing the urls to it's own.

I think it's odd how this server is slower (for me anyways) than the old one ever was.

This server > old server

besides, we get to unleash our terrible powers upon a few thousand other poor posters.

and....THEY HAVE A CALL OF DUTY BOARD! w00t!

I did that, but there is only one thread there. I guess Jolt is still changing the urls to it's own.There are fifteen pages of threads. In "Edit Options" in your profile, is "Default Thread Age Cut Off" set to "Show all threads"?
i had assumed that it was something to do with the onset of summer (for many of us), exams, universities shutting up shop until October...Last year, a lot of new people joined starting in March. It seemed to me to have slowed down considerably by December.
Server that doesn't crash every 2 minutesIt only went down once a day for me. :/
Where did all the smileys go?We still have smileys, but I liked the old ones more. To be able to see your choices of smilies, go to your profile, click on "Edit Options", and set your "Message Editor Interface" to "Standard Editor".
I think it's odd how this server is slower (for me anyways) than the old one ever was.This one was worse for me, but now it's fine.

I don't know about you chaps but I'm feeling kind of positive about the idea of a Forum I can both read and post replies to.

I miss all my old friends. I look at the posts now and it's all people that I don't recognize with founding dates in June and July 2004. Where is the old forum royalty, the people that used to post when I came around? I think the biggest drawback to the Jolt move is that it has scared away all the people that used to make General what it was.

know what you mean Sdaeriji

I miss all my old friends. I look at the posts now and it's all people that I don't recognize with founding dates in June and July 2004. Where is the old forum royalty, the people that used to post when I came around? I think the biggest drawback to the Jolt move is that it has scared away all the people that used to make General what it was.
Well I'm not royalty, but I am about as old as you. Don't know if that comforts you any, but there are still a few old-timers left here.

I don't like this forum for any reason besides the fact that it is fast.

Well I'm not royalty, but I am about as old as you. Don't know if that comforts you any, but there are still a few old-timers left here.
i'm just an old puppet mongering whore, but i don't really like the new forums, the vibe is just different, the tone more strident, the whining more shrill

I think that its better because its faster, though it just doesnt feel right to be posting here. The old NS forums just seemed..... better.

I don't like this forum for any reason besides the fact that it is fast.

Agreed. I think we lost alot of what made the forums great in the long wait for the move to Jolt.

These forums don't feel like home... but they're better than forums that crashed every 5 minutes.

i agree that they don't 'feel like home' but given time we'll get used to them.

not sure i agree with you Murfy on them being better cos of not crashing - that kinda added a bit of excitement and, yes, frustration, but it gave the forum character.

Character is sadly lacking in this forum - it always works the same, it looks colourless AND loads of the regulars have disappeared

*sighs*

anyways, if we want it to be better then it's up to us to make it better

*nods decisively and trots off back to the Schroedinger's Cat thread*

It's sad that people who join the game from now on will never know our comfy old forums.

I'm still here :fluffle:

yeah but i never see ya anymore...we're not even like ships that pass in the night

you and loads of others...summer migration perhaps?

It's sad that people who join the game from now on will never know our comfy old forums.

it is...there a quite a lot of people who have retreated to offsite forums. They feel much more cosy.

Jolt feels enormous (wtf am i saying? sounds really bizarre but that's how it feels) and people i've got to know over the past year are much more thinly spread out - it's much more difficult to find them.

i miss the info about who was online...i know it exists here but it isn't automatically shown at the top of each forum.

AND GREY IS SO GLOOMY!!!! Why can't we have a bit of gentle blue?

Maybe the forums aren't the problem. Maybe you're tired of NationStates.

Maybe the forums aren't the problem. Maybe you're tired of NationStates.

not at all...have just become UN delegate and am active in many regions.

One good thing about the forums being offline for so long was that rmbs became much more active.

I'm in 7 regions and have 2 of my own - they are all different and it's great fun :)

Hadn't long found the main forums and had just got to know people and got the hang of navigating around when they went down.

This forum seems - different. And a lot of the people i knew are no longer around - or i haven't found them.

a lot of regions are experiencing reduction of numbers of nations - presumably this is to do with summer and with people not being at uni and therefore no access to a computer.

i'm hanging on in here until the winter when i suspect things will get much more active.

Is it me or are there far more politcal and religious threads after the move? I think we lost a lot of the people who just came hear for fun. I mean a couple of political or religious threads can be interesting as i never really talk about that stuff much in real life but when the whoel boards covered with them its just too much. Maybe i'm just getting nostalgic again.

Sigh....*drifts off*

It's like moving house, you hate the paint job but the roof don't fall anymore. :p

It's like moving house, you hate the paint job but the roof don't fall anymore. :p

Yeah, but with the roof in the old house, when it was raining it was too wet to fix it, and when it wasn't raining it was as good as any man's roof.

Is it me or are there far more politcal and religious threads after the move? I think we lost a lot of the people who just came hear for fun. I mean a couple of political or religious threads can be interesting as i never really talk about that stuff much in real life but when the whoel boards covered with them its just too much. Maybe i'm just getting nostalgic again.

Sigh....*drifts off*

I quite agree. it's getting WORSE

grave dig much?

I agree. When I was the Sean Empire, playing on the phpBB forums back in April, things were very lively. There was always some idiot to reply to & declare war on, and always the screams of godmod and the veteran role-players trying to help the n00bs out. Heck, there was even an anti-n00b alliance. A few of them, actually. I was a part of the WMNK for quite some time. GDODAD was ever powerful. They were involved in just about every one of the world wars, and for many of them I was part of the GDODAD. Then I joined GODAD to spice things up a little bit. There was always a way to piss people off then. Now people don't really care. It would also help if I had 567 million people instead of 67 million.

It has died though. It's too easy to get into these forums. I'm used to having to try 5 times to get it to work. Ah, the good ol' days.

This server > old server

besides, we get to unleash our terrible powers upon a few thousand other poor posters.

and....THEY HAVE A CALL OF DUTY BOARD! w00t!
I was so awesome 6 months ago

I quite agree. it's getting WORSE
definately agreed.