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This comic perfectly demonstrates the stupidity of the currently undecided voter.

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too small to even know what hes saying

That this cartoon is syndicated is proof of the Liberal control over newspapers. If I wanted to hear political whining, i'd go to one of the random commie rallies they have in San Francisco every few months. I turn to the comic section to be entertained, Dilbert will always be better than Boondocks, which needs to stay in lefty newsletters about legalizing pot.

That this cartoon is syndicated is proof of the Liberal control over newspapers. If I wanted to hear political whining, i'd go to one of the random commie rallies they have in San Francisco every few months. I turn to the comic section to be entertained, Dilbert will always be better than Boondocks, which needs to stay in lefty newsletters about legalizing pot.
if i wanted to listen to radical right wing HYPOCRITICAL BULLSHIT i would turn on rush limbaugh, shut the hell up

That this cartoon is syndicated is proof of the Liberal control over newspapers. If I wanted to hear political whining, i'd go to one of the random commie rallies they have in San Francisco every few months. I turn to the comic section to be entertained, Dilbert will always be better than Boondocks, which needs to stay in lefty newsletters about legalizing pot.

bitch

If you're not interested in political debate, better hop out of this forum, seems to be rife with politics, kid.

That this cartoon is syndicated is proof of the Liberal control over newspapers. If I wanted to hear political whining, i'd go to one of the random commie rallies they have in San Francisco every few months. I turn to the comic section to be entertained, Dilbert will always be better than Boondocks, which needs to stay in lefty newsletters about legalizing pot.*YAWN*

If the liberals control the media so well, and the media is so powerful at influencing the public, then how come Kerry and Bush are still just about tied in the polls?

I never said the media powerfully influences people. Messages are so jumbled and mixed nowadays with the information overload (websites, soundbites, radio, television, print, "art", so much to process), that getting the media to screech your political ideals is less effective than it would have been in the 50s.

I said that this cartoon's syndication is proof that Liberals control the newspaper industry in the U.S., because, it's not really funny, and week after week it's just more anti-Bush nonsense that gets recycled every few days or months and expressed in a new way.

oh yeah, if the media is so liberal why hasnt bush alreayd been run out of office by people in overalls with pitch forks and torches

*YAWN*

If the liberals control the media so well, and the media is so powerful at influencing the public, then how come Kerry and Bush are still just about tied in the polls?

Because half of America can see past the liberal media's clouding of information? I'm sorry, it's less clouding and more presenting only what they want you to see. In any case, the media is biased toward the liberal side, and it takes a liberal to argue otherwise.

I never said the media powerfully influences people. Messages are so jumbled and mixed nowadays with the information overload (websites, soundbites, radio, television, print, "art", so much to process), that getting the media to screech your political ideals is less effective than it would have been in the 50s.

I said that this cartoon's syndication is proof that Liberals control the newspaper industry in the U.S., because, it's not really funny, and week after week it's just more anti-Bush nonsense that gets recycled every few days or months and expressed in a new way.


should i start showing all the make fun of kerry and make fun of clinton comics and declare all newspapers cosnervative controleld because of COMICS

THEY ARE FUCKING COMICS, THERE JOB IS TO MAKE A JOKE, for the love of pete you people are so damned stupid and single minded you dont realise its the job of comedians and comic artists to provide POLITICAL SATIRE, if he stopepd fucknig up and beign so controversial there wouldnt be any damn comics

oh yeah, if the media is so liberal why hasnt bush alreayd been run out of office by people in overalls with pitch forks and torches

Because most media people don't dress up in overalls and carry pitchforks and torches around.

should i start showing all the make fun of kerry and make fun of clinton comics and declare all newspapers cosnervative controleld because of COMICS

THEY ARE FUCKING COMICS, THERE JOB IS TO MAKE A JOKE, for the love of pete you people are so damned stupid and single minded you dont realise its the job of comedians and comic artists to provide POLITICAL SATIRE, if he stopepd fucknig up and beign so controversial there wouldnt be any damn comics

Exactly. Well said.

should i start showing all the make fun of kerry and make fun of clinton comics and declare all newspapers cosnervative controleld because of COMICS

THEY ARE FUCKING COMICS, THERE JOB IS TO MAKE A JOKE, for the love of pete you people are so damned stupid and single minded you dont realise its the job of comedians and comic artists to provide POLITICAL SATIRE, if he stopepd fucknig up and beign so controversial there wouldnt be any damn comics
1. Find me a comic, nationally syndicated like Boondocks, that every week for 10 weeks straight or more, bashed Clinton, Kerry, or any other Liberal politician, i'll mail you a special cookie.

2. This isn't entertainment, this is political whining. Entertainment is Dodgeball, political whining is Farenheit 9/11. Get it? Entertainment = Dilbert, political whining = Boondocks.

I never said the media powerfully influences people. Messages are so jumbled and mixed nowadays with the information overload (websites, soundbites, radio, television, print, "art", so much to process), that getting the media to screech your political ideals is less effective than it would have been in the 50s.

I said that this cartoon's syndication is proof that Liberals control the newspaper industry in the U.S., because, it's not really funny, and week after week it's just more anti-Bush nonsense that gets recycled every few days or months and expressed in a new way.

What is a funny cartoon to a child, and what is funny to an adult are usually two different things. Boondocks is not a children's cartoon. Don't let it upset you....the rest of us "get it".

1. Find me a comic, nationally syndicated like Boondocks, that every week for 10 weeks straight or more, bashed Clinton, Kerry, or any other Liberal politician, i'll mail you a special cookie.

2. This isn't entertainment, this is political whining. Entertainment is Dodgeball, political whining is Farenheit 9/11. Get it? Entertainment = Dilbert, political whining = Boondocks.


its called POLITICAL SATIRE

fucknig halfwit

1) mallard fillmore

1. Find me a comic, nationally syndicated like Boondocks, that every week for 10 weeks straight or more, bashed Clinton, Kerry, or any other Liberal politician, i'll mail you a special cookie.

2. This isn't entertainment, this is political whining. Entertainment is Dodgeball, political whining is Farenheit 9/11. Get it? Entertainment = Dilbert, political whining = Boondocks.I think I understand. Things you argee with = entertainment. Things you don't agree with = political whining.

Chess Squares, I strongly recommend you cut the flaming lest ye have to bear the full brunt of me in Bastard Moderator From Hell mode.
Consider this an official warning.


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In any case, the media is biased toward the liberal side, and it takes a liberal to argue otherwise.In other words, only a conservative would say the media has a liberal bias.

In other words, only a conservative would say the media has a liberal bias.
thats the gist

I think I understand. Things you argee with = entertainment. Things you don't agree with = political whining.
I wouldn't want to read a comic about little white children making fun of Liberal politicians either, know why? It's political whining! Bite me, btw, "blah blah blah, intolerance! blah blah blah", thats all you people can come up with? I expected better from people awake at this time of the morning.

And as far as the yuppie saying it's funny if you're an adult... For 10 weeks i'll constantly berate someone you idolize, calling them every nasty thing that I can think up, especially in relation to their capability to function as a human being, and we'll count the number of times you laugh.

1. Find me a comic, nationally syndicated like Boondocks, that every week for 10 weeks straight or more, bashed Clinton, Kerry, or any other Liberal politician, i'll mail you a special cookie.

2. This isn't entertainment, this is political whining. Entertainment is Dodgeball, political whining is Farenheit 9/11. Get it? Entertainment = Dilbert, political whining = Boondocks.

The Boondocks are funny to me. Where's the whining. I don't see whining, except from what's coming from your mouth. Why don't you give one good reason why political satire is whining, and then i'll mail you a special cookie. And just for the record, tell me how old you are. I'm willing to bet you aren't 16.

I wouldn't want to read a comic about little white children making fun of Liberal politicians either, know why? It's political whining! Bite me, btw, "blah blah blah, intolerance! blah blah blah", thats all you people can come up with? I expected better from people awake at this time of the morning.

And as far as the yuppie saying it's funny if you're an adult... For 10 weeks i'll constantly berate someone you idolize, calling them every nasty thing that I can think up, especially in relation to their capability to function as a human being, and we'll count the number of times you laugh.
political satire appeals to the intelligent people who get the joke, if you dont like the comic dont read it, pretty darn simple

I wouldn't want to read a comic about little white children making fun of Liberal politicians either, know why? It's political whining! Bite me, btw, "blah blah blah, intolerance! blah blah blah", thats all you people can come up with? I expected better from people awake at this time of the morning.

And as far as the yuppie saying it's funny if you're an adult... For 10 weeks i'll constantly berate someone you idolize, calling them every nasty thing that I can think up, especially in relation to their capability to function as a human being, and we'll count the number of times you laugh.

You, my flaming little friend, have no sense of morals.

To be satire, it has to be witty. When you repeat the same message over and over again, day in, day out, for months, and now years at a time, it ceases to be witty, and so ceases to be satire.

How exactly am I immoral when you're the one suppporting the personal debasement of another human being for what you regard to be entertainment?

btw, "blah blah blah, intolerance! blah blah blah", thats all you people can come up with? I expected better from people awake at this time of the morning.
Well I don't recall saying "blah blah blah, intolerance! blah blah blah", or anything like it, so theres not much to reply to here unless you clarify this rather bizzare statement.

Just FYI, I couldn't care less whether you like Boondocks or not, its the absurd liberal media suggestion and the rating of anything you don't agree with as political whining. And before you draw my attention to this part of your post as an example of balance:
I wouldn't want to read a comic about little white children making fun of Liberal politicians either, know why? It's political whining!You've already said that no such cartoon exists, so it'd be silly if you now try to say that you call things on both sides of the spectrum "whining".

Oh, and to the original poster: Cartoon is very funny, thanks for that.

That this cartoon is syndicated is proof of the Liberal control over newspapers. If I wanted to hear political whining, i'd go to one of the random commie rallies they have in San Francisco every few months. I turn to the comic section to be entertained, Dilbert will always be better than Boondocks, which needs to stay in lefty newsletters about legalizing pot.
Actually, the Chicago Tribune runs boondocks and that other one which's name will come to me right after I post. Chicago Tribune is a very conservitive newspaper.

When you repeat the same message over and over again, day in, day out, for months, and now years at a time...
...then you're a member of the Bush administration! :D

See, now thats satire. ;)

To be satire, it has to be witty. When you repeat the same message over and over again, day in, day out, for months, and now years at a time, it ceases to be witty, and so ceases to be satire.


Webster's dictionary

Satire

1. A composition, generally poetical, holding up vice or folly to reprobation; a keen or severe exposure of what in public or private morals deserves rebuke; an invective poem; as, the Satires of Juvenal.

2. Keeness and severity of remark; caustic exposure to reprobation; trenchant wit; sarcasm.

Syn: Lampoon; sarcasm; irony; ridicule; pasquinade; burlesque; wit; humor.

Your witticism doesn't work Spoffin, try again.

Politicians are fine repeating themselves, they're not here to be entertaining.

I give you one big, maximum LOL

Well I don't recall saying "blah blah blah, intolerance! blah blah blah", or anything like it, so theres not much to reply to here unless you clarify this rather bizzare statement.

Just FYI, I couldn't care less whether you like Boondocks or not, its the absurd liberal media suggestion and the rating of anything you don't agree with as political whining. And before you draw my attention to this part of your post as an example of balance:
You've already said that no such cartoon exists, so it'd be silly if you now try to say that you call things on both sides of the spectrum "whining".

Oh, and to the original poster: Cartoon is very funny, thanks for that.

I just had to share it with the NS community. :D

Ascensia, everything you have said thus far has deemed you ignorant.

Chess, I always thought Webster's could spell the word "political", maybe I was wrong?

Politicians are fine repeating themselves, they're not here to be entertaining.
Thats just as well, cos if they were I'd be asking for a refund on the price of the ticket.

Your point was irrelevant anyway, so I'm not feeling the need to answer it seriously.

Ascensia, everything you have said thus far has deemed you ignorant.
Disagreeing with Liberals makes me ignorant, how very tolerant of you!

Disagreeing with Liberals makes me ignorant, how very tolerant of you!

No. Calling satire "political whining" is what makes you ignorant.

Thats just as well, cos if they were I'd be asking for a refund on the price of the ticket.

Your point was irrelevant anyway, so I'm not feeling the need to answer it seriously.
And now opposing your political viewpoint / attempted methods of political indoctrination is irrelevent? Ja, Mein Fuher!

To be satire, it has to be witty. When you repeat the same message over and over again, day in, day out, for months, and now years at a time, it ceases to be witty, and so ceases to be satire.

How exactly am I immoral when you're the one suppporting the personal debasement of another human being for what you regard to be entertainment?
Well, you think that it ceases to be witty. But thats the first time I've seen a Boondocks cartoon (we don't get the Chicago tribune over here in the UK), so I still found it funny, and I expect other people did too, so I think that probably, even under your own definition, it is satire, to some people anyway.

Chess, I always thought Webster's could spell the word "political", maybe I was wrong?
copy and paste if you dont believe me ill give u a link

And now opposing your political viewpoint / attempted methods of political indoctrination is irrelevent? Ja, Mein Fuher!

Stick to debating in english please.

No. Calling satire "political whining" is what makes you ignorant.
Satire is entertaining, the Boondocks is political whining.

I give you one big, maximum LOL
Who was that to?

Well, you think that it ceases to be witty. But thats the first time I've seen a Boondocks cartoon (we don't get the Chicago tribune over here in the UK), so I still found it funny, and I expect other people did too, so I think that probably, even under your own definition, it is satire, to some people anyway.
You find it funny because you would level the same personal attacks against Boondock's favorite targets given the chance.

...then you're a member of the Bush administration! :D

See, now thats satire. ;)

The LOL was directed at this commment.

To be satire, it has to be witty. When you repeat the same message over and over again, day in, day out, for months, and now years at a time, it ceases to be witty, and so ceases to be satire.

How exactly am I immoral when you're the one suppporting the personal debasement of another human being for what you regard to be entertainment?


Whether something is witty is an opinion though, so you may not consider it satire but some people do.

As for the media having a liberal bias, I don't know, seems like there is a fairly balanced number of conservative and liberal media sources to me.

*Shrugs*

And now opposing your political viewpoint / attempted methods of political indoctrination is irrelevent? Ja, Mein Fuher!
Nine, nine, das is not vot I meant.

I mean that I never made any comment about political leaders being funny/ not funny or that their repeating themseleves was right/wrong, I just made the point that the Bush administration tend to repeat themselves. You tried to splice the two prongs of the arguement together, thus making a comment that didn't mean anything at all in relation to the previous debate.

While you were correct, that politicians aren't supposed to be entertaining, the point is completely irrelevant in this context. Nothing wrong with the comment, nothing wrong per see with saying irrelevant things, but I wasn't planning to let myself get distracted by answering your point seriously.

Whether something is witty is an opinion though, so you may not consider it satire but some people do.

As for the media having a liberal bias, I don't know, seems like there is a fairly balanced number of conservative and liberal media sources to me.

*Shrugs*
This cartoon which spouts utter hate against Conservatives, particularly Bush, has been nationally syndicated. That shows you that at least in the Newspaper industry, left of left of center rules the roost.

You find it funny because you would level the same personal attacks against Boondock's favorite targets given the chance.
Absolutely I would :D


Sorry, was there a point there?

The LOL was directed at this commment.
Ah, excellent. Thank you.

Absolutely I would :D


Sorry, was there a point there?
True satire has a measure of wit and comedy for anyone with the capability of grasping the message. I've never failed to boil down a Boondocks cartoon into a single sentance of hate, and yet I continue not to laugh?

Go ahead, insult my intelligence, admit i'm right through non-response.

This cartoon which spouts utter hate against Conservatives, particularly Bush, has been nationally syndicated. That shows you that at least in the Newspaper industry, left of left of center rules the roost.
mallard fillmore for the past couple weeks has been making fun of kerry and the liberal portion of america, therefore i assert all newspapers are run by conservatives

hasty generalization fallacy

mallard fillmore for the past couple weeks has been making fun of kerry and the liberal portion of america, therefore i assert all newspapers are run by conservatives

hasty generalization fallacy
Not every major newspaper runs it, therefore it is not nationally syndicated.

This cartoon which spouts utter hate against Conservatives, particularly Bush, has been nationally syndicated. That shows you that at least in the Newspaper industry, left of left of center rules the roost.LOL!!

Yeah, the cartoons are the main part of a newspaper, expressing the largest amount of opinion over the largest amount of column inches. Observe as I put your assumption into a syllogism with a different example:


The Fox network runs The Simpsons
The Simpsons are often anti-bush
Fox Media is a liberal network.

True satire has a measure of wit and comedy for anyone with the capability of grasping the message. I've never failed to boil down a Boondocks cartoon into a single sentance of hate, and yet I continue not to laugh?

Go ahead, insult my intelligence, admit i'm right through non-response.

Wit and comedy is in the eye of the beholder.

True satire has a measure of wit and comedy for anyone with the capability of grasping the message. I've never failed to boil down a Boondocks cartoon into a single sentance of hate, and yet I continue not to laugh?

Go ahead, insult my intelligence, admit i'm right through non-response.
It seems to me rather like you're re-defining the word satire to make it fit with your point. This is a (*puts on booming voice*) LOGICAL FALLACY!

Not every major newspaper runs it, therefore it is not nationally syndicated.
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amazon book review for mallard fillmore comic book

"A collection of comic strips from the nationally syndicated series, which appears in more than three hundred newspapers, skewers liberals in government and the media, including President Clinton, exposing the president's secret meetings with Elvis. Original. "


"After years of cartooning for newspapers (including stints in both writing and editing), Tinsley said he was fired in 1986 as the cartoonist for the Charlottesville (Va.) Daily Progress for "being too conservative." Mallard Fillmore was born soon after. The strip was nationally syndicated in 1994 and now appears in more than 400 newspapers."


*GAME OVER* *GAME OVER* *Press 'Start' to continue.*



EDIT: matter of fact, Boondocks only appears in 250 newspapers

The comic that for weeks on end satirized President Cinton, describing him as a waffle or a flipping coin: Doonesbury. Go back to the 90's and enjoy.

...

amazon book review for mallard fillmore comic book

"A collection of comic strips from the nationally syndicated series, which appears in more than three hundred newspapers, skewers liberals in government and the media, including President Clinton, exposing the president's secret meetings with Elvis. Original. "


"After years of cartooning for newspapers (including stints in both writing and editing), Tinsley said he was fired in 1986 as the cartoonist for the Charlottesville (Va.) Daily Progress for "being too conservative." Mallard Fillmore was born soon after. The strip was nationally syndicated in 1994 and now appears in more than 400 newspapers."


*GAME OVER* *GAME OVER* *Press 'Start' to continue.*



EDIT: matter of fact, Boondocks only appears in 250 newspapers

And we have a winner. :D

This cartoon which spouts utter hate against Conservatives, particularly Bush, has been nationally syndicated. That shows you that at least in the Newspaper industry, left of left of center rules the roost.

What that actually shows is that lots of newspapers think that putting Boondocks in their comic strips lineup is cost-efficient. Because those damned liberal newspapers are seeking something called profit. I'm relatively certain that if enough readers disliked Boondocks enough to change papers, it wouldn't be nationally syndicated for much longer. Damn liberals and their money-grubbing. :)

I think we're losing sight of "THE MEDIA"'s motives. Running those Prince Valiant strips all over the place doesn't mean they support the return of a monarch. Family Circus is all over the place, but that doesn't mean the media is controlled by idiots. Oops, does anybody like Family Circus?

What that actually shows is that lots of newspapers think that putting Boondocks in their comic strips lineup is cost-efficient. Because those damned liberal newspapers are seeking something called profit. I'm relatively certain that if enough readers disliked Boondocks enough to change papers, it wouldn't be nationally syndicated for much longer. Damn liberals and their money-grubbing. :)

I think we're losing sight of "THE MEDIA"'s motives. Running those Prince Valiant strips all over the place doesn't mean they support the return of a monarch. Family Circus is all over the place, but that doesn't mean the media is controlled by idiots. Oops, does anybody like Family Circus?


Nope. Family Circus sucks. :D

Damn us liberals and trying to make money. ;)

If the Boondocks is the newspaper's "liberal bias," then Family Circus is the right's conservative propaganda.


One comic with an author that's liberal doesn't make every newspaper have a "liberal bias." That's like saying that just because Rush Limbaugh is so popular, all of radio has a conservative bias.


The Boondocks is usually pretty funny, my favorite comic anyway. The rest of the comics in the newspaper suck or are just boring. The only time Boondocks wasn't funny is when he was on that Ms. Cleo spiel, for several weeks.

did i mention i never even heard of boondocks until this thread and when i did i thought it was a webcomic for a few posts

we have mallard fillmore in our local newspaper

'tis a comic in the D.C. area.

I found it, awwwwwww yeahhhhhhhhh!

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Lol I read that one. It made me laugh out loud.

I found it, awwwwwww yeahhhhhhhhh!

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Hehe, see that's just really funny. You don't have to be blindly following the crazy-liberal media to laugh at that. I thought the first one was legitimately funny too. See it presents a person who believes that Bush is ruining their life on every level but is still hesitant because Kerry tends to flip-flop. That's comedy. If the person instead was trying to decide between their favorite flavor of ice cream or shellfish which they are deadly allergic to and they hesitated, it would be funny. Get it? Hah, see, they shouldn't be hesitating given what they believe. But they do... that's funny. Get it yet? Or does somebody honestly think that I laughed at that comic because I hate Bush's policies?

I laughed at the comic.

Therefore I'm an unpatriotic liberieal leftist tree huging pinko commie. Consequetially, I also apparently rule the media with an iron fist!

Here's a good Family Circus.

Rick James (http://www.strike9.com/file.ashx?path=%2fAmplified2000%2ffamcir.jpg)

Anyone think we quite soundly beat Ascensia?

Anyone think we quite soundly beat Ascensia?
i dont think he wants to get in much more about this after that "nationally syndicated" crap

I just see no point in arguing with people who can't make small concessions to common sense.

We agree, that's why we stopped arguing with you :D

I just see no point in arguing with people who can't make small concessions to common sense.
SMALL CONCESSIONS TO COMMON SENSE?!?!?!


YOU are the one sitting there calling EVERY newspaper in american LIBERAL because TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY carry a single damned comic that is liberal with its POLITICAL SATIRE. you have NO concept of common sense, throwing around logical fallacies because you are a right wing fool. im glad you finally sthu when faced with COMMON SENSE that there is a CONSERVATIVE comic in DOUBLE the number of "liberal" controlled newspapers as your silly "liberal" comic


im TIRED of stupid ass conservatives flying around calling everything liberal, guess what if you think every news outlet in america is liberal, your ass is leaning toooo far to the right

I just see no point in arguing with people who can't make small concessions to common sense.
An example of our liberal nonsensica?

1. Find me a comic, nationally syndicated like Boondocks, that every week for 10 weeks straight or more, bashed Clinton, Kerry, or any other Liberal politician, i'll mail you a special cookie.

2. This isn't entertainment, this is political whining. Entertainment is Dodgeball, political whining is Farenheit 9/11. Get it? Entertainment = Dilbert, political whining = Boondocks.

1. Mallard Fillmore. Its about a duck who makes fun of acedmeics and liberals, defends the founding fathers, and pokes fun at leading democratic leaders. Nationally sindicated comic.

2. I'm surprised you don't find Dilbert a bastion of left-leaning anti-corperate dogma. Afterall, the entire premise of Dilbert is that corperations are far from sufficient to govern themselves internally, let alone be considered able to help society. About how the common engineer can see through the idiocy of corperate life that he is beholden to because of his lack of capital. About a dog who is an icon of "playing the system": that those who know how to manipulate gain in corperate culture, not those who are good at their jobs.

But yeah...its a funny, harmless comic. Just don't take the context into account or anything.

SMALL CONCESSIONS TO COMMON SENSE?!?!?!


you have NO concept of common sense, throwing around logical fallacies because you are a right wing fool.

/cough
Speaking of logical fallacies, I don't think that's a direct cause/effect relationship. :) But then again, it might be.

/cough
Speaking of logical fallacies, I don't think that's a direct cause/effect relationship. :) But then again, it might be.
its not a logical fallacy if you kknow the radical right and what hes been saying

Let's all agree that ascensia is stupid and leave it at that.