NationStates Jolt Archive

Eh?

US, Russia, England, France, Israel, India, Pakistan, China, North Korea and at least one other...Iran maybe?...(no specific order...)

US, Russia, England, France, Israel, India, Pakistan, China, North Korea and at least one other...Iran maybe?...(no specific order...)

South Africa Had them then gave them up.

I don't know if Iran has them yet, but I don't usually include them on my list.

South Africa Had them then gave them up.
But I got all the others?

heh, I learned all this from the "End of the World" flash that used to be on the internet. I don't know if it still is or not...

W T F mate?

But I got all the others?

heh, I learned all this from the "End of the World" flash that used to be on the internet. I don't know if it still is or not...

W T F mate?
scary, I was just about to look up that video to find out myself...

I can't wait till we seperate from continential U.S. to go hang with Hawaii

Well, the official ones are the USA, Russia, Britain, France, and China.

India and Pakistan also have them.

Israel and North Korea probably have them.

As for Iran, who knows? Besides the Iranians, that is.

scary, I was just about to look up that video to find out myself...

I can't wait till we seperate from continential U.S. to go hang with Hawaii

Can alaska come too?

scary, I was just about to look up that video to find out myself...

I can't wait till we seperate from continential U.S. to go hang with Hawaii
If you find it, please put that URL in a post...actually, start a whole new thread...and we'll discuss its awesomeness...

Well, the official ones are the USA, Russia, Britain, France, and China.

India and Pakistan also have them.

Israel and North Korea probably have them.

As for Iran, who knows? Besides the Iranians, that is.
Sorry, but the first reply was a completely accurate response (aside from SA and the wondering about Iran...) so stop guessing and start reading...

If you find it, please put that URL in a post...actually, start a whole new thread...and we'll discuss its awesomeness...
I have it on favorites...

I hope it's still up

If it is, I'll start a new thread in a few seconds

Can alaska come too?
Alaska can come too.

And that huge meteor is like "Well fuck that..."

Official: UK, US, France, Russia, China, Pakistan, India.
On the side: North Korea, Iran.
Gave up: South Africa.

Sorry, but the first reply was a completely accurate response (aside from SA and the wondering about Iran...) so stop guessing and start reading...

There weren't any replies when I started on that incredibly in-depth essay on nuclear proliferation, so screw you.

Official: UK, US, France, Russia, China, Pakistan, India.
On the side: North Korea, Iran.
Gave up: South Africa.
Sorry, but the first reply was a completely accurate response (aside from SA and the wondering about Iran...) so stop guessing and start reading...

Nuff said?

US, Russia, Britain, France, China, Israel, North Korea Pakistan, India.

used to have: South Africa, Argentina (or Brazil on of the two)

US, Russia, Britain, France, China, Israel, North Korea Pakistan, India.

used to have: South Africa, Argentina (or Brazil on of the two)


I didn't know about Argentina/Brazil. That's interesting and if it's true, my money's on Brazil. I was pretty sure I'd read that S. Africa was the only country ever to have disarmed after developing nuclear weapons tech.

Also, somebody mentioned that nobody knew about Iran other than the Iranians. I'm relatively sure that most Iranians have about as good an idea of their nuclear status as we do. Hell, I'm really ready to believe that France has no nuclear weapons. I mean, really.

Of course, you also have to consider all of the former republics of the USSR, like the Ukraine or Kazakhstan, to name a few.

I didn't know about Argentina/Brazil. That's interesting and if it's true, my money's on Brazil. I was pretty sure I'd read that S. Africa was the only country ever to have disarmed after developing nuclear weapons tech.

Also, somebody mentioned that nobody knew about Iran other than the Iranians. I'm relatively sure that most Iranians have about as good an idea of their nuclear status as we do. Hell, I'm really ready to believe that France has no nuclear weapons. I mean, really.

I think I read that Argentina and Brazil are on the cusp of developing nuclear weapons. Very soon.

Of course, you also have to consider all of the former republics of the USSR, like the Ukraine or Kazakhstan, to name a few.
Nope. Ukraine and Kazakhstan gave all their weapons back to Moscow.

Nope. Ukraine and Kazakhstan gave all their weapons back to Moscow.
And I don't believe that any other of the former republics ever had any.

And don't forget all of the nations that could make a bomb in a couple of months using their current nuclear reactors.

Nope. Ukraine and Kazakhstan gave all their weapons back to Moscow.
If your counting them, you can include a whole bunch of soviet nations that used to house missiles, including Mongolia.

Hell, I'm really ready to believe that France has no nuclear weapons. I mean, really.

So their nuclear tests during the 1980s in the South Pacific were all just fakes using enormous quantities of indoor fireworks then? That must have been why they carried out the illegal sinking of the Rainbow Warrior - they were scared that their ruse was going to be found out...

Does this only include weapons or reactor techonolgy aswell?

I didn't know about Argentina/Brazil. That's interesting and if it's true, my money's on Brazil. I was pretty sure I'd read that S. Africa was the only country ever to have disarmed after developing nuclear weapons tech.

Also, somebody mentioned that nobody knew about Iran other than the Iranians. I'm relatively sure that most Iranians have about as good an idea of their nuclear status as we do. Hell, I'm really ready to believe that France has no nuclear weapons. I mean, really.
Iran will have one in a couple of years. That's my prediction.

If your counting them, you can include a whole bunch of soviet nations that used to house missiles, including Mongolia.
I'm pretty sure we're talking about nations that currently have the technology and resources. None of the former republics do.

I'm pretty sure we're talking about nations that currently have the technology and resources. None of the former republics do.

I'd disagree. Most of them have nuclear reactors, and a crude U-235 fission bomb could easily be made.

Then there are a whole list of suspected nations that have the technology.

Libya, Syria, Colombia and a some african nations I dont uite remember which ones, to name a few.

Nope. Ukraine and Kazakhstan gave all their weapons back to Moscow.
There was one other that had soviet nukes and no longer has them, Belarus. The Ukraine can probably make nuclear weapons if they want them, does that make them a nuclear nation?

For that matter, SA retains the capability (confirmed) to make nuclear weapons, so they really should be considered a nuclear power. And there are still rumours that SA has some tactical nuclear weapons.

Israel is a problem. Never conclusively proven to have nuclear weapons. Never offically confirmed having nuclear weapons. Does not deny having nuclear weapons.

http://www.fact-index.com/l/li/list_of_countries_with_nuclear_weapons.html

The list is a bit outdated, got some of the presidents and primeminsters wrong. Just from a quick look through.

The list is a bit outdated, got some of the presidents and primeminsters wrong. Just from a quick look through.
I was just pointing out that all of the Former Soviet Republics had in fact returned all of their missiles.

Anyone of them with just about half a brain.

*They ain't that hard poeple*

:headbang:

Jim

Ukraine will probably not build any nuclear weapons, simply because the people remember Chernobyl in 1986. The area is still a wasteland, and probably will be for a long time to come. They'd have to really HATE someone to drop a bomb on that someone.

France still has nuclear weapons, but only on the submarines, I think. Just like the Britons.

Israel most likely does have nuclear weapons capability, but probably doesn't have the missiles ready to fire right now. I'd say they are dismantled so that they can be quickly put together and fired; but at the same time they would be more mobile than carting around whole missiles.

I think that there is some treaty between the South American nations banning the production of nuclear weapons there.

Are there Martians to laugh at us?

I'm pretty sure we're talking about nations that currently have the technology and resources. None of the former republics do.

Actually think that many countries have the technology and resources. Tho, alot of them have signed that no spreading or developing-treaty and thinks it's a good idea and therefor don't have any plans to develope nuclear weapons.

Btw, prety sure that Sweden got pretty far, but for multiple reasons abondoned the project.

France still has nuclear weapons, but only on the submarines, I think. Just like the Britons.

we have mainly SLBM's (M4, M45,and in 2010 the M51 with a respective range of 5000,6000 and 8000 kilometrs and fielding a MIRV load with 6x150KT warheads) but our airforce received a certain ammount of mid-range (up to 300km in optimal conditions and 80 in hostile environment at max speed and low altitude) scramjet powered missiles with a 300kt warhead.
Plans for the airforce are to field by 2010 the ALSP, an ameliorated version of the ASMP with a range up to 1000km

here's the ASMP
http://frenchnavy.free.fr/aircraft/rafale/images/rafale-026.jpg
It can be carried by Mirages 2000 N, Super Etendards and Rafales

here's a small overview of the French Nuclear Arsenal.
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/France/FranceArsenalRecent.html
The information is a bit old and a few parts are now wrong, but it still does gives a good idea of the french nuclear capacity

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/endofworld.html

Israel is a problem. Never conclusively proven to have nuclear weapons. Never offically confirmed having nuclear weapons. Does not deny having nuclear weapons.I think...Israel HAS Nukes and Chems.

hehe, okay, so maybe France kept them on some subs. yeesh. :)

On another note, has anybody heard about the initiative to fund the production of burroughing, low-yield tactical nuclear warheads? Nuclear bunkerbusters seems to me like one of the worst ideas being realized during this administration. Break that nuclear taboo and suddenly it's okay to use nukes.. afterall, these are the low-yield ones.

Then there are a whole list of suspected nations that have the technology.

Libya, Syria, Colombia and a some african nations I dont uite remember which ones, to name a few.
libya gave theirs up.

Just to note India uses Israeli built ICBMs which were originally of French design (Jericho I and II)>

I think...Israel HAS Nukes and Chems.So do lots of people, its just that very few people (all in Israel presumably) know that Israel has nukes. It is a problem, Israel gains most of the advantages (?) diplomatically of being a nuclear nation because of this presumption. Certainly there is no reason to believe nuclear weapons are beyond their capability. ****as a side note Jerusalem, neither the Jerricho I or II is an ICMB (inter continental ballistic missile), I believe they are MRBMs (medium range ballistic missiles) but they may be SRBMs (short range ballistic missiles) and I'm too lazy to look it uo****Certainly a goodly number of people who have studied the issue believe Israel has nuclear weapons. A completely accurate picture of nuclear nations has to include mention of the fact that there is no conclusive proof that Israel has nuclear weapons, although there is a lot of circumstantial and unconfirmable evidence, and Isreal refuses to either confirm or deny having nuclear weapons.