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The Christians have a saying...."remove the plank in your own eye before you comment bout the one in your brothers"....Europe, Asia, and Africa have plenty enough domestic dirty laundry of their own....so why don't you bush-haters give our President a rest and show me the dirty laundry of your own countries for awhile huh?

Many of the people who are anti-Bush do not live in Europe Africa and Asia. Me for example. Bush's dirty laundry is my country's dirty laundry.

....Europe, Asia, and Africa .....why don't you bush-haters give our President a rest and show me the dirty laundry of your own countries for awhile huh?
Its in the best interest of Europe, Asia, and the rest of the World....that Bush gets another Supreme Court "apointment" Just like last time in Florida...

Please give us Bush...One more time :D

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Now that is too funny!!

And, no, thank you. I prefer to talk about the world's greatest terrorist over talking about lesser terrorists. :)

Also, Bush is the plank of YOUR eye that you obviously haven’t removed yourself, and now you want to see Europe, Asia and Africa’s? Talk about a contradiction! :D

Its in the best interest of Europe, Asia, and the rest of the World....that Bush gets another Supreme Court "apointment" Just like last time in Florida...

Please give us Bush...One more time :D
It is also in the Best intersts of Democracy, Justice and Freedom...Please God....give us another Florida Thingie :D....The Monky has to finish his Job(Fumble the NEW AMERICAN CENTURY)

The Christians have a saying...."remove the plank in your own eye before you comment bout the one in your brothers"....Europe, Asia, and Africa have plenty enough domestic dirty laundry of their own....so why don't you bush-haters give our President a rest and show me the dirty laundry of your own countries for awhile huh?

fine with me, you will still have about 50 million people left to bitch about Bush, since at least that many here in America think the guy is a tool :).

It is also in the Best intersts of Democracy, Justice and Freedom...Please God....give us another Florida Thingie :D....The Monky has to finish his Job(Fumble the NEW AMERICAN CENTURY)

I live in Florida, and I will personally be trying to organize people to stand outside of the poll locations with diagrams of how to work the ballot.

It just seems to me that some people on this forum have a more then casual interest in a country who you are not even a citizen of...those that aren't Americans that is..I never see a post here by a Frenchman bout Chirac...or the rare Canadian one bout how I believe it unjust that you don't allow for the Quebocois to leave the Dominion, or the internal disagreements between the British and how they felt bout the IRA..etc.etc..

My President is not without his fair share of problems..but then again, neither is your governments

Its in the best interest of Europe, Asia, and the rest of the World....that Bush gets another Supreme Court "apointment" Just like last time in Florida...

Please give us Bush...One more time :D
Actually I just read an article on Yahoo! about how some states are going to swing, and it said that Bush will probably win Florida.

I want Dubya to win Pennsylvania though, if he does that, 4 MORE YEARS!

The Christians have a saying...."remove the plank in your own eye before you comment bout the one in your brothers"....Europe, Asia, and Africa have plenty enough domestic dirty laundry of their own....so why don't you bush-haters give our President a rest and show me the dirty laundry of your own countries for awhile huh?

No offense, but are you a puppet of Fat Smelly Bastards? Or vice versa? I seriously mean no offense, though, so if you're not, I'm sorry.

Thing is most of Britain's dirty laundry at the moment relates to Iraq (which in turn leads to Bush). We (well, me and my mates) spend a fair amount of time debating the merits the EMU (European Munitry (sp?) Union - aka "The Single Currency") and Foundation Hospitals.

It's all a little obscure for a forum which is international. Bush sending the US armed forces in to another country is something everyone here knows about.

Thing is most of Britain's dirty laundry at the moment relates to Iraq (which in turn leads to Bush). We (well, me and my mates) spend a fair amount of time debating the merits the EMU (European Munitry (sp?) Union - aka "The Single Currency") and Foundation Hospitals.

It's all a little obscure for a forum which is international. Bush sending the US armed forces in to another country is something everyone here knows about.

I for one would love to debate the merits of why the British are so obstinately clinging to it's standoffish position regarding the EU.

It just seems to me that some people on this forum have a more then casual interest in a country who you are not even a citizen of...those that aren't Americans that is..I never see a post here by a Frenchman bout Chirac...or the rare Canadian one bout how I believe it unjust that you don't allow for the Quebocois to leave the Dominion, or the internal disagreements between the British and how they felt bout the IRA..etc.etc..

My President is not without his fair share of problems..but then again, neither is your governments


That is so very true. I have a few friends that live in Canada and France. They all hate their leaders. I think it is just the popular thing for european people to pick on an american leader. They have no real lives as it is.

My friend Morty says Europeons don't never take no baths but once a week. They just spray that damn perfume over their musty armpits and pretend they're clean. That's what Morty says, anyway. Seriously.

The Christians have a saying...."remove the plank in your own eye before you comment bout the one in your brothers"....Europe, Asia, and Africa have plenty enough domestic dirty laundry of their own....so why don't you bush-haters give our President a rest and show me the dirty laundry of your own countries for awhile huh?

I actually quite like my government. Sometimes its a touch too populist but you cant be perfect. The major opposition party suck arse though.

We atheists have our own sayings as well. Take for example: "Shut the fuck up" or "Bush should be shot in the face". I think if you really look carefully, you'll catch the message I'm trying to send across here.

My friend Morty says Europeons don't never take no baths but once a week. They just spray that damn perfume over their musty armpits and pretend they're clean. That's what Morty says, anyway. Seriously.
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We atheists have our own sayings as well. Take for example: "Shut the fuck up" or "Bush should be shot in the face". I think if you really look carefully, you'll catch the message I'm trying to send across here.

Ahuh...well...when you graduate from secondary education and mature a little bit more you can leave daycare behind and give us a much better and rational response in a debate session.

well, we British have Tony "oh look Georgie, I'm a poodle, I'm a poodle!" Blair to contend with, not to mention David Blunkett who seems intent on turning Britain into his own little tinpot dictatorship. Hell, the man is trying to force us to carry ID cards with biometric data at all times, he wants to track released criminals by putting chips in them and monitoring them with satellites, and he wants to stop people protesting in public places.

Seriously though, they've got a point Salishe. You voted this tyrant into power, he's leading the world's biggest economy and military force, he is leading the world's foreign policy, and he is holding people without charge in Guantanamo bay... You deserve to all take stick for this man, and we europeans have a right to insult that chimp however much we want

The Christians have a saying...."remove the plank in your own eye before you comment bout the one in your brothers"....Europe, Asia, and Africa have plenty enough domestic dirty laundry of their own....so why don't you bush-haters give our President a rest and show me the dirty laundry of your own countries for awhile huh?
Cause thanks to America, and Bush, things went ka-boom in Madrid for example.

Everyone focus'ing on your leader is not nescisarrily a bad thing.
It is a sign that you are the leading nation of the world in many ways, to be that popular. Of course, that could be just as bad.

Not everyone in every country can tell you whats happening in egypt or veitnam at the moment. Pretty much anyone anywhere can tell you what the US has done in the last year. Therefor, the leader is going to come under negative fire from anyone and everyone that doesn't know what other opinions to form about the country and it's actions.

As for at home, this is a two party system.... not saying that's a good thing.
And both parties are so partisan that they will do anything and everything to attack the other party's leadership and actions... despite the outcome of the actions, good or bad. It's sickening.

Ask a republican or "conservative" about Clinton administration, and they'll tell you he's a morally corrupt man. Noone will mention what happened to the economy during his presidency.

Ask a democrat about the "war on terrorism" and they'll say it's horrible lie filled tyranic attack on other nations. None will tell you that after 9/11 they would have felt horrible danger if no reprecusions had come to the "terrorists" and those harboring them.

So, you have to expect, thanks to this horrible and nauciating partisan country, that the leader will be harrased by the opposing party.

Since Bush is making the rest of the world unsafer (imo) with his fancy War on Terror, I don't see why the rest of the world isn't allowed to complain.

Since Bush is making the rest of the world unsafer (imo) with his fancy War on Terror, I don't see why the rest of the world isn't allowed to complain.

Didn't say the rest of the world isn't allowed to complain..but the rest of the world has plenty of dirty laundry...I don't hear many of the Non-Americans lambasting their own government for policies they are enacting..I don't hear from the Canadians bout First Nation's problems or the Quebecois and their attempts to secede, which I think if that is what they want...they should be allowed to leave the Dominion....I don't read near enough posts from the Europeans bout the problems they are having within their EU community..and virtually nothing from the Asians here.

As I said...remove the plank in your own eye at the very least while you are commenting on our own.

It just seems to me that some people on this forum have a more then casual interest in a country who you are not even a citizen of...those that aren't Americans that is..I never see a post here by a Frenchman bout Chirac...or the rare Canadian one bout how I believe it unjust that you don't allow for the Quebocois to leave the Dominion, or the internal disagreements between the British and how they felt bout the IRA..etc.etc..

My President is not without his fair share of problems..but then again, neither is your governments
If I could find people to adaquately debate the issues in Britain, I happily would. But most of the posters here are american, and most americans tend to worry more about the problems in their own country. And the few who are left after this probably agree with me anyway, so arguing about British polictics is going to be an exercise in futility (or so I've found the few times I've tried, on topics like ID cards and such)

I'm from the US. And by dissing Bush I am commenting on the plank in the eye of my own country.

My friend Morty says Europeons don't never take no baths but once a week. They just spray that damn perfume over their musty armpits and pretend they're clean. That's what Morty says, anyway. Seriously.
My dog told me Americans are fat and stupid. But I already knew that. Word.

My dog told me Americans are fat and stupid. But I already knew that. Word.

Well..I can't deny the fat part..33% of Americans..indeed I believe it's worldwide are clinically obese..the stupid part...well....I think I'm fairly intelligent...no college degree..but I believe I hold my own..lol..

Giving Bush a rest sounds good to me... in fact, why don't we just ease him into retirement ASAP?

(I wonder if there are any openings in the Fletcher Memorial Home for Colonial Wasters of Life and Limb still available?) :sniper:

Giving Bush a rest sounds good to me... in fact, why don't we just ease him into retirement ASAP?

(I wonder if there are any openings in the Fletcher Memorial Home for Colonial Wasters of Life and Limb still available?) :sniper:


Oh please...Colonial wasters?...care to show me what colony we have settled...I want to know, that way I can requisition the new geography book.

It just seems to me that some people on this forum have a more then casual interest in a country who you are not even a citizen of...those that aren't Americans that is..I never see a post here by a Frenchman bout Chirac...or the rare Canadian one bout how I believe it unjust that you don't allow for the Quebocois to leave the Dominion, or the internal disagreements between the British and how they felt bout the IRA..etc.etc..

My President is not without his fair share of problems..but then again, neither is your governments


Ooh ooh! You got my attention:)! Why is it that you think it is unfair for the Quebecois to leave Canada? Quebéc is very divided itself on whether it wishes to leave... there are many french and english (not to mention natives and various other enthicities) that DO NOT want to leave.... should they be forced to because radicals? That said, I really don't see why they SHOULDN'T leave... if they can get a majority vote for separation... and I think 51%, though legally a majority, should not be the benchmark... for something that would affect the whole province so drastically, they should be shooting more for 60% or 70%. Anyway... I'd still like to hear your opinion on the matter!

Ooh ooh! You got my attention:)! Why is it that you think it is unfair for the Quebecois to leave Canada? Quebéc is very divided itself on whether it wishes to leave... there are many french and english (not to mention natives and various other enthicities) that DO NOT want to leave.... should they be forced to because radicals? That said, I really don't see why they SHOULDN'T leave... if they can get a majority vote for separation... and I think 51%, though legally a majority, should not be the benchmark... for something that would affect the whole province so drastically, they should be shooting more for 60% or 70%. Anyway... I'd still like to hear your opinion on the matter!

You must have misread my post..I'm all for letting the Quebecois being allowed to secede.

That is so very true. I have a few friends that live in Canada and France. They all hate their leaders. I think it is just the popular thing for european people to pick on an american leader. They have no real lives as it is.

Canada got moved to Europe? Awesome! Now I can finally visit Spain cheap! :)

You must have misread my post..I'm all for letting the Quebecois being allowed to secede.

Sorry...I didn't misread...I miswrote:). I meant, why do you think it's unfair NOT to let them leave. Sorry!

Sorry...I didn't misread...I miswrote:). I meant, why do you think it's unfair NOT to let them leave. Sorry!

I think it's a natural result of self-determination....they apparently feel they have less in common with the rest of English-dominated Canada...if a majority of Quebecois feel they can go it alone, let the secede...

I think it's a natural result of self-determination....they apparently feel they have less in common with the rest of English-dominated Canada...if a majority of Quebecois feel they can go it alone, let the secede...

Shouldn't the Natives in Quebec have something to say about that? I mean, it WAS their land first... and not too many support separation. What about the Kurds in Turkey... I bet they'd like to have a Kurdistan too.... what's to stop nations from splitting up into hundreds of tiny ethnically homogenous groups...

Not that I'm against that;).

Oh please...Colonial wasters?...care to show me what colony we have settled...I want to know, that way I can requisition the new geography book.

The only reason why I added "Colonial" is because it's in the lyrics to a Pink Floyd song, as anyone with good enough taste to appreciate their music would have realized :P. But it's odd that you should choose this one word to quibble over rather than the "wasters of life and limb".
BTW... permanent bases are being built in both Afghanistan and Iraq, with no set date as to when they'll be turned over to these "sovereign" nations (which raises the possibility that it'll never happen)... sounds pretty colonial to me.

The Christians have a saying...."remove the plank in your own eye before you comment bout the one in your brothers"....Europe, Asia, and Africa have plenty enough domestic dirty laundry of their own....so why don't you bush-haters give our President a rest and show me the dirty laundry of your own countries for awhile huh?

Hmm, maybe because other leaders haven't done as much to destabilise world peace? Maybe because other countries aren't sitting on top of the largest nuclear, chemical and biological stockpile in the world? Maybe because other countries haven't been invading sovereign nations with no real evidence of the reason they claim to be doing so?

In a schoolyard playground, who are you going to be most worried about? The bullies walking around with baseball bats and flickknives, or the one toting an M60, with an IQ lower than room temperature who believes he is getting instructions from god? ;)

so why don't you bush-haters give our President a rest and show me the dirty laundry of your own countries for awhile huh?

I'm sorry? I am just as disgusted by the actions of my own government as I am by those of the US. But since Australia's foreign policy at the moment seems to involve blindly following the US, I consider that the US's business is our business.

Also, the United State's blatent disregard for International Law has a destabilising effect that has ramifications far beyond the US. We are all part of the international community.

Ahuh...well...when you graduate from secondary education and mature a little bit more you can leave daycare behind and give us a much better and rational response in a debate session.

I'll give you a rational response when you bible thumpers stop quoting that book in relation to every problem you have. I don't quote Greek mythology (which, by the way, is just as fictional in every aspect as the bible) every tme I have an oppurtunity to act as if I stand on morally higher ground than someone else.

What's the problem? Don't like naughty words? Don't appreciate anyone responding to your stupid comments with equally stupid comments? Tell you what. When you graduate from Sunday school, you come back and then we can have a nice debate about whatever you want. Until then, continue getting used to life.

Hi Binky. Having fun?

I'll give you a rational response when you bible thumpers stop quoting that book in relation to every problem you have. I don't quote Greek mythology (which, by the way, is just as fictional in every aspect as the bible) every tme I have an oppurtunity to act as if I stand on morally higher ground than someone else.

What's the problem? Don't like naughty words? Don't appreciate anyone responding to your stupid comments with equally stupid comments? Tell you what. When you graduate from Sunday school, you come back and then we can have a nice debate about whatever you want. Until then, continue getting used to life.

You really shouldn't open your mouth, it shows your ignorance...I don't recall saying I was a Bible thumper, let alone a Christian..in fact I'm a Native American who practices the way of his people...ways that were ancient long before either a small jewish carpeter ran afoul of Roman Law and the Greeks were doing sheep..but that is neither here nor there..I used the quote because it fits the situation...clean up your own house before you tell me how dirty mine is.

The Christians have a saying...."remove the plank in your own eye before you comment bout the one in your brothers"....Europe, Asia, and Africa have plenty enough domestic dirty laundry of their own....so why don't you bush-haters give our President a rest and show me the dirty laundry of your own countries for awhile huh?
We just can't let up on Bush until after Kerry is elected as President. Of course there will be a month or two of post mortems on the Bush administration then we can get back to normal.

I think it's a natural result of self-determination....they apparently feel they have less in common with the rest of English-dominated Canada...if a majority of Quebecois feel they can go it alone, let the secede...
The majority of Quebecers don't really want to leave Canada. Every once in awhile they kick up a little dust but for the most part, they realize that their best interests lie within the confederation.

BTW Salishe, are you turning religious on us? You are starting to use quotes from the Bible to augment your posts?

Perhaps you could apply some of that God sense when thinking about your fellow citizens who are less fortunate than yourself?

I'm sorry? I am just as disgusted by the actions of my own government as I am by those of the US. But since Australia's foreign policy at the moment seems to involve blindly following the US, I consider that the US's business is our business.

Also, the United State's blatent disregard for International Law has a destabilising effect that has ramifications far beyond the US. We are all part of the international community.

So what you've neglacted to add is Saddam's blatent disregard for international law...what, he was only in violation of 17 UN resolutions? Maybe we should have let him go for 20, that's a nice round number. If the UN won't enforce its own laws because of countries like France blocking every attempt to do so, what's the point? Why should all these countries care that the U.S. is violating international law when Iraq, as well as Israel, have been doing it for years? If you're going to be upset with the United States' actions, you should be as upset or more that the UN isn't enforcing its own law.

I don't hear from the Canadians bout First Nation's problems
Were you aware that Nunavut will become the first Aboriginal self-governing territory in Canada? Can the US match that? Sure we have problems but we are looking for solutions, and this is a step in the right direction.

or the Quebecois and their attempts to secede, which I think if that is what they want...they should be allowed to leave the Dominion
You don't hear anything on this due to the fact that it is not a burning issue at the moment. Are you trying to make it one, and if so why?

Question for you.....if a State, let's say the one you live in, wanted to secede from the US, would you support the decision of those people and more importantly, do you think the Federal Government would allow it? How would a State go about seceding from the Union?

So what you've neglacted to add is Saddam's blatent disregard for international law...what, he was only in violation of 17 UN resolutions? Maybe we should have let him go for 20, that's a nice round number. If the UN won't enforce its own laws because of countries like France blocking every attempt to do so, what's the point? Why should all these countries care that the U.S. is violating international law when Iraq, as well as Israel, have been doing it for years? If you're going to be upset with the United States' actions, you should be as upset or more that the UN isn't enforcing its own law.

And it's not like the US would ever even think of violate a single UN resolution, or fail to censure one of allies when they did so and it benefited us. Case in point... one Mr. Saddam Hussein, who the US knew was using chemical warfare against Iran (yet tried covering this by falsely accusing IRAN of doing this), yet sent him various weapons grade chemical and biological material.

And it's not like the US would ever even think of violate a single UN resolution, or fail to censure one of allies when they did so and it benefited us. Case in point... one Mr. Saddam Hussein, who the US knew was using chemical warfare against Iran (yet tried covering this by falsely accusing IRAN of doing this), yet sent him various weapons grade chemical and biological material.

I find it hard to believe the U.S. just handed out biological material. Where did you hear this from?

Giving Bush a rest sounds good to me... in fact, why don't we just ease him into retirement ASAP?

(I wonder if there are any openings in the Fletcher Memorial Home for Colonial Wasters of Life and Limb still available?) :sniper:
....and they can AMUSE themselves, playing games for a while ....
... is everyone in?
Are you having a nice time?
And now ....
Most of the songs on that album revolve around the same chords.
A great album nonetheless!
Cheers!

The Christians have a saying...."remove the plank in your own eye before you comment bout the one in your brothers"....Europe, Asia, and Africa have plenty enough domestic dirty laundry of their own....so why don't you bush-haters give our President a rest and show me the dirty laundry of your own countries for awhile huh?

Because no one on this board really cares that Don Brash is a fuckstick but people fall for his bullshit anyway?

Didn't say the rest of the world isn't allowed to complain..but the rest of the world has plenty of dirty laundry...I don't hear many of the Non-Americans lambasting their own government for policies they are enacting..I don't hear from the Canadians bout First Nation's problems or the Quebecois and their attempts to secede, which I think if that is what they want...they should be allowed to leave the Dominion....I don't read near enough posts from the Europeans bout the problems they are having within their EU community..and virtually nothing from the Asians here.

As I said...remove the plank in your own eye at the very least while you are commenting on our own.

Me and my fellow Dutch are certainly commenting on our own rather sucky (atm) government. The thing is, this happens mainly on Dutch forums you (probably) can't read (and in the Dutch topic in General :) ). I suppose the same goes for other European countries. However, when someone wants to complain about the British or US government it happens in English and allows the rest of the world to jump in on the discussion.

We just can't let up on Bush until after Kerry is elected as President. Of course there will be a month or two of post mortems on the Bush administration then we can get back to normal.

Then we will have to begin criticizing Kerry, because Im worried that he might just continue to be a political wet noodle. Kerry better get some conviction by then or Im gonna be pissed. At least he has the balls to stand up on SOME issues, like stem cells (one of my top five) but what aobut foreign policy? What do you bet he is too much of wuss to take back what we said about the French....

I find it hard to believe the U.S. just handed out biological material. Where did you hear this from?
Yo dude, research this, its basically common knowledge that Reagan gave chemical weapons to saddam aroujnd the same time the CIA was training Osama bin Laden.

Tell you what, when America stops interfering in other countries, we'll stop criticising your goverment.

For the record, I have family in the U.S. Do all of the Americans on here who've posted on the Iraq war have relatives there?

Canadian one bout how I believe it unjust that you don't allow for the Quebocois to leave the Dominion

I read this from the hotel, but didn't have time to respond.. (I was away for the week-end, we just got home)

1st of all, before you say things about how Canada runs it's affairs you should have some idea of what you're talking about.

Quebec has voted twice to leave Canada, both times they voted no! Every time they have ever had any type of vote, they vote no. There has been no request for any type of vote since 1995. So, why would you want us to cut Quebec loose when the majority do not want to leave? :rolleyes: