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You go to the pie shop and realize that you only have enough money for one slice of pie. Then in walks Bill Gates who proceeds to buy all the pies and leaves you standing there completely pieless. Is that fair? Why does he get all the pies? Shouldn't he be made to share some of his pies instead of hording them all? Socialism says "YES, everyone is entitled to a piece of the pie! For now on, all pie shops will be under the control of The People, and The People will decide how to distribute the pies fairly and equitably."

Imagine a world where, instead of walking into a pie shop and hoping, PRAYING you have enough money for one itty bitty little piece of pie, you simply put your name on a waiting list for the priviledge to go before a special commitee, who will carefully determine how deserving you are of pie, and will then give you a slice of pie FOR FREE!!!!! Never again will anyone have to pay for pie, and never again will one man be able to horde ALL the pie. No more will people compete to get more pie than their neighbor. Everyone will be entitled to exactly the same amount of pie, with the exception of the People on the Pie Committee, who will get extra pie because they wear party pins.

How do you get a party pin? Well, you have to join the Party, and that will cost you a fee of 100 pies. Then you have to be approved by the party leader, MOI, and I don't like the shape of your nose. In fact, I think you're being greedy by coming around and asking for pie all the time when the People are starving in the streets. "I want pie! I want pie! ME ME ME ME ME!!!!" You are putting your needs above the needs of The People, and that just won't do. Your selfish attitude is harmful to The People, and you're the reason everyone is starving. It's because of YOU that there aren't enough pies to go around. The only way we're going to make this a perfect Socialist Utopia is if we put a stop to big-nosed, pie-stealing scum like you sabotaging the system! THE PEOPLE MUST BE CLEANSED OF YOUR DISEASE!!!! GET ON THE BOXCAR!!!! NOW!!!!

umm, i live in a pretty socialist country... and you're a little off if you think that's how things are...

yeah...

because socialism requires a dictator to determine what is best for "the people" aka the communist party et cetera.


brilliant!

Lol, very funny, very funny.

Communism is terrible because those who can succeed and make huge amounts of money to afford nice things are not allowed. Thats why I believe in full capitalism, every one trying to make as much money as they can.

Communism is terrible because those who can succeed and make huge amounts of money to afford nice things are not allowed. Thats why I believe in full capitalism, every one trying to make as much money as they can.

But what you don't realize is that the way they get money is through exploitation. The workers must work to survive (there is the risk of starvation) and the capitalists siphon off profits from this labor.

But what you don't realize is that the way they get money is through exploitation. The workers must work to survive (there is the risk of starvation) and the capitalists siphon off profits from this labor.

Well, I want to make my money because I want a big house and nice things to go in it. Have any of you ever seen the movie "Doctor Zhivago" its about the russian revolution it was good but it was sad about those people having their houses shared.

Well, I want to make my money because I want a big house and nice things to go in it. Have any of you ever seen the movie "Doctor Zhivago" its about the russian revolution it was good but it was sad about those people having their houses shared.

Think of the people who suffer in sweatshops so you can have your "nice house". They matter, too.

Think of the people who suffer in sweatshops so you can have your "nice house". They matter, too.

Maybe they should have gone to college, and why should I not be able to have nice things if I can with my talent and my brain because some stupid or lazy person cant.

who wants to know why idiots think socialism is bad?

becauie other even dumber idiots ho cant even fathom the fairplay of socialism make up horribly stupid anecdotes.

who wants to know why idiots think socialism is bad?

becauie other even dumber idiots ho cant even fathom the fairplay of socialism make up horribly stupid anecdotes.

Use some grammar and spelling that does not make you look like an idiot. I don't want fairplay every person should be able to get what ever they can with there own abillity. In socialism there is no reason to excel after you reach the ability of every one else. After you get there your getting as much as you can why try to work harder or work better. In capitalism you can go up and up and up based on your ideas, talents, and how smart you are.

Use some grammar and spelling that does not make you look like an idiot. I don't want fairplay every person should be able to get what ever they can with there own abillity. In socialism there is no reason to excel after you reach the ability of every one else. After you get there your getting as much as you can why try to work harder or work better. In capitalism you can go up and up and up based on your ideas, talents, and how smart you are.
in a controlled system, you cant seperate stuff. in a uncontrolled system capitalism is like a dictatorship with kings, the little peons stay peons and the fat cats pass the job to ther kids


edit: and you can kiss my ass, if you dont like the fact i dont give a damn about grammar, my spelling is fine, typing and spelling are two different things, you can kiss my ass

in a controlled system, you cant seperate stuff. in a uncontrolled system capitalism is like a dictatorship with kings, the little peons stay peons and the fat cats pass the job to ther kids

Yea, its the fat cats right to do what he wants with his company, peons should have worked harder to secure a foothold in the market.

Maybe they should have gone to college, and why should I not be able to have nice things if I can with my talent and my brain because some stupid or lazy person cant.

Yep, those people in Vietnam have ALL the money to go to college, but they just CHOOSE to work for Nike for 16 Hours a day.

Maybe they should have gone to college, and why should I not be able to have nice things if I can with my talent and my brain because some stupid or lazy person cant.

If you are a poor child in a third world country, college is not an option. They work for as much as 16 hours in places. They aren't lazy by any definition of the word.

Yea, its the fat cats right to do what he wants with his company, peons should have worked harder to secure a foothold in the market.
ignorant twit, they cant do anything while being oppressed

woo woo here comes the clue train

why didnt the serfs become kings?

who wants to know why idiots think socialism is bad?

becauie other even dumber idiots ho cant even fathom the fairplay of socialism make up horribly stupid anecdotes.

Exactly :)

The Americans are largely anti-socialist because there schools told them so. The Red Scare is still going on, largely thanks to The Educational System.

And why is the EU the biggest economy in the World but its members are all socialist?

Just look at my country. I try to keep everyone equal. And I also got rid of jails, which can only be done while keeping crime low if you educate people enough and promote welfare.

Would you like to live in my country, or are you a capitalist, fascist moron?

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=tribal_ecology

If you are a poor child in a third world country, college is not an option. They work for as much as 16 hours in places. They aren't lazy by any definition of the word.

I thought we were talking about America.

ignorant twit, they cant do anything while being oppressed

woo woo here comes the clue train

why didnt the serfs become kings?

Because serfs were not of royal blood, the economy is not a true monarchy.

Because serfs were not of royal blood, the economy is not a true monarchy.

it is a true monarchy without controls, which you are obviously suggesting with all this "they would work harder" bullshit

YOU DONT GET ANYWHERE IN AN UNCONTROLLD CAPITALIST SYSTEM, you would be crushed by big corporations if you started a business and the peons would be oppressed with low pay and rely on the corporatiosn to survive

lets take a trip back in time to the what 1920s 30s and 40s? and later too

I thought we were talking about America.

We're talking about capitalism. American companies take advantage of sweatshops in third world countries. Zoolander does actually have an element of truth to it, believe it or not.

I see my thread has been derailed.

Hehe, lets compare the gradual, not large, but steady economic growth of Europe over hte past century to America during the 20's and other periods. Pure Capitalism is unsteady and causes big crashes.