Lunatic Goofballs
23-07-2004, 03:45
(written by George Carlin)
Interviewer: Ladies and Gentlemen, we're privileged to have with us a man known around the world as the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ.
Jesus: That's me.
I: How are you Jesus?
J: Fine, thanks, and let me say it's great to be back.
I: Why, after all this time, have you come back?
J: Mostly nostalgia.
I: Can you tell us a little bit about the first time you were here?
J: Well, there's not much to tell. I think everybody knows the story by now. I was born on Christmas. And actually, that always bothered me because I only got one present. You know, if I was born a couple of months earlier I would've got two presents. But look, I'm not complaining. After all, it's only material goods.
I: There's a story that there were three wise men.
J: Well, there were 3 kings who showed up. I don’t know how wise they were, they didn’t look very wise. They said they followed a star, that doesn’t sound wise to me.
I: Didn’t they bring gifts?
J: Yes. Gold, frankincense, and I believe, myrrh, which I never did figure out what it was. You don’t happen to know what myrrh is do you?
I: Well I believe it's a reddish-brown, bitter gum resin.
J: Oh, great. Just what I need...What am I gonna do with a gum resin? I'd rather have the money, that way I could buy something I need. You know, something I wouldn’t normally buy for myself.
I: What would that be?
J: Oh I don’t know. A bathing suit. I never had a bathing suit. Maybe a Devo hat. Possibly a bike. I really coulda used a bike. Do you realize all the walking I did? I must've crossed Canaan six, eight times. Up and down, north and south, walking and talking, doin miracles, tellin stories.
I: Tell us about the miracles. How many miracles did you perform?
J: Well, leaving out the loaves and the fishes, a total of 107 miracles.
I: Why not the loaves and fishes?
J: Well, technically that one wasn't a miracle.
I: It wasn’t?
J: No, it turns out a lot of people were putting them back. They were several days old. And besides, not all my miracles were pure miracles anyway.
I: What do you mean, what were they?
J: Well, some of them were parlor tricks, optical illusions, mass hypnosis. Sometimes people were hallucinating. I even used acupressure. That's how I cured most of the blind people, acupressure.
I: So not all of the New Testament is true?
J: Nah. Some of the gospel stuff never happened at all. It was just made up. Luke and Mark used a lot of drugs. Luke was a physician, and he had access to drugs. Matthew and John were okay, but Luke and Mark would write anything.
I: What about raising Lazarus from the dead?
J: First of all, he wasn’t dead, he was hungover. I've told people that.
I: But in the Bible you said he was dead.
J: No! I said he looked dead. I said, "Geez, Peter, this guy looks dead!" You see, Lazarus was a very heavy sleeper, plus the day before we had been to a wedding feast, and he had put away a lot of wine.
I: Ahh! Was that the wedding feast at Cana, where you changed the water into wine?
J: I don’t know. We went to an awful lot of wedding feasts in those days.
I: But did you ever really turn water into wine?
J: Not that I know of. One time I turned apple juice into milk, but I don’t recall the water and wine.
I: Alright, speaking of water, let me ask you about another miracle. What about walking on water? Did that really happen?
J: Oh yeah, that was one that really happened. You see, the problem was, I could do it, and the other guys couldn't. They were jealous. Peter got so mad at me he had these special shoes made, special big shoes, that if you started walkin real fast you could stay on top of the water awhile. Then, of course, after a few yards, splash, down he goes right into the water. He sinks like a rock.
I: Well, that brings up the Apostles. What can you tell us about the Apostles?
J: They smelled like bait, but they were a good bunch of guys. 13 of them we had.
I: Thirteen? The Bible says there were only 12.
J: Well, that was according to Luke. I told you about Luke. Actually we had 13. We had Peter, James, John, Andrew, Phillip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James (that’s a different James), Thaddeus. How many is that?
I: That's 10.
J: Simon, Judas and Red.
I: Red?
J: Yeah, Red the Apostle.
I: Red the Apostle doesn’t appear in the Bible.
J: Nah, Red kept pretty much to himself. He never came to any of the weddings. He was a little strange; he thought the Red Sea was named after him.
I: And what about Judas?
J: Don’t get me started on Judas. A completely unpleasant person, okay?
I: Well, what about the other Apostles like Thomas, was he really a doubter?
J: Believe me, this guy Thomas, you couldn’t tell him anything. He was always asking me for ID. Soon as I would see him, he would go, "You got any ID?" To this day he doesn’t believe who I am.
I: And who would that be?
J: I'm a member of the Trinity.
I: Yes. In fact, you're writing a book about the Trinity.
J: That’s right, its called Three's a Crowd.
I: As I understand it, it’s nothing more than a thinly veiled attack on the Holy Ghost.
J: Listen, it’s not an attack okay? It happens I don’t get along with the guy, so I leave him alone. That’s it. What he does is his business.
I: What's the reason?
J: Well, first of all, he’s a wise guy. Every time he shows up, he appears as something different. One day he’s a dove, another day he’s a tongue of fire. Always foolin around. I don’t bother with the guy. I don’t wanna know about him, I don’t wanna see him, I don’t wanna talk to him.
I: Well, let me change the subject. Is there really a place called hell?
J: Oh yeah, there’s a hell alright. There's also a heck. It’s not as severe as hell, but we've got a heck and a hell.
I: What about purgatory.
J: No, I don’t know about purgatory. We got heaven, hell, heck and limbo.
I: What is limbo like?
J: I don’t know. No one is allowed in. If anyone was in there it wouldn’t be limbo, it would just be another place.
I: Getting back to your previous visit, what can you tell us about the Last Supper?
J: Well first of all, if I woulda known I was gonna be crucified, I woulda had a bigger meal. You never want to be crucified on an empty stomach. As it was, I had a little salad and some veal.
I: The crucifixion must have been terrible.
J: Oh yeah it was awful. Unless you went through it yourself you could never know how painful it was. And tiring, it was very very tiring. But I think more than anything else it was embarrassing. You know, in front of all those people, to be crucified like that. But, I guess it redeemed a lot of people. I hope so. It would be a shame to do it for no reason.
I: Were you scared?
J: Oh yeah. I was afraid it was gonna rain; I thought for sure I would get hit by lightning. One good thing thought, while I was up there I had a really good view, I could actually see my house. There's always a bright side.
I: And then 3 days later you rose from the dead.
J: How’s that?
I: On Easter Sunday. You rose from the dead, didn’t you?
J: Not that I know of. I think I would remember something like that. I do remember sleeping a long time after the crucifixion. Like I said, it was very tiring. I think what mighta happened was I passed out and they thought I was dead. We didn’t have such good medical people in those days, it was mostly volunteers
I: And, according to the Bible, forty days later you ascended into heaven.
J: Pulleys! Ropes, pulleys and a harness. I think it was Simon who came up with a great harness thing that went under my toga. You couldn’t see it at all. Since that day, I've been in Heaven and, all in all, I would have to say that while I was down here I had a really good time. Except for the suffering.
I: And what do you think about Christianity today?
J: Well, I'm a little embarrassed by it. I wish they would take my name off it. If I had the whole thing to do over, I would probably start one of those Eastern religions like Buddha. Buddha was smart, that's why he's laughing.
I: You wouldn’t want to be a Christian?
J: No, I wouldn’t want to be a member of any group whose symbol is a man nailed on some wood. Especially if it’s me. Buddha's laughing, meanwhile I'm on the cross.
I: I have a few more questions, do you mind?
J: Be my guest, how often do I get here?
I: Are there really angels?
J: Well, not as many as we used to have. Years ago we had millions of them. Today you can’t get the young people to join. It got too dangerous with all the radar and heat-seeking missiles.
I: What about guardian angels? Are there such things?
J: Yes, we still have guardian angels, but now, with the population explosion, its one angel for every 6 people. Years ago everybody had their own angel.
I: Do you really answer prayers?
J: No. First of all, what with sun spots and radio interference, a lot them don’t even get through. And between you and me, we just don’t have the staff to handle the workload anymore. In the old days we took pride in answering every single prayer, but like I said, there were less people. And in those days people prayed for something simple, to light a fire, to catch a yak, something like that. But today you got people praying for football teams, for longer fingernails, to lose weight. We just can’t keep up.
I: Well, I think we're about out of time. I certainly want to thank you for visiting with us.
J: Hey, no problem.
I: Do you have any words of advice?
J: You mean like how to remove chewing gum from a suede garment? Something like that?
I: No, I mean spiritual advice.
J: Well, I don’t know how spiritual it is, but I'd say one thing is don’t give your money to the church. They should be giving their money to you.
I: Well, thank you, Jesus, and goodnight.
J: Well, goodnight, thanks for having me on here today. And by the way, in case anyone is interested, bell-bottoms will be coming back in the year 2015. Later.
Interviewer: Ladies and Gentlemen, we're privileged to have with us a man known around the world as the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ.
Jesus: That's me.
I: How are you Jesus?
J: Fine, thanks, and let me say it's great to be back.
I: Why, after all this time, have you come back?
J: Mostly nostalgia.
I: Can you tell us a little bit about the first time you were here?
J: Well, there's not much to tell. I think everybody knows the story by now. I was born on Christmas. And actually, that always bothered me because I only got one present. You know, if I was born a couple of months earlier I would've got two presents. But look, I'm not complaining. After all, it's only material goods.
I: There's a story that there were three wise men.
J: Well, there were 3 kings who showed up. I don’t know how wise they were, they didn’t look very wise. They said they followed a star, that doesn’t sound wise to me.
I: Didn’t they bring gifts?
J: Yes. Gold, frankincense, and I believe, myrrh, which I never did figure out what it was. You don’t happen to know what myrrh is do you?
I: Well I believe it's a reddish-brown, bitter gum resin.
J: Oh, great. Just what I need...What am I gonna do with a gum resin? I'd rather have the money, that way I could buy something I need. You know, something I wouldn’t normally buy for myself.
I: What would that be?
J: Oh I don’t know. A bathing suit. I never had a bathing suit. Maybe a Devo hat. Possibly a bike. I really coulda used a bike. Do you realize all the walking I did? I must've crossed Canaan six, eight times. Up and down, north and south, walking and talking, doin miracles, tellin stories.
I: Tell us about the miracles. How many miracles did you perform?
J: Well, leaving out the loaves and the fishes, a total of 107 miracles.
I: Why not the loaves and fishes?
J: Well, technically that one wasn't a miracle.
I: It wasn’t?
J: No, it turns out a lot of people were putting them back. They were several days old. And besides, not all my miracles were pure miracles anyway.
I: What do you mean, what were they?
J: Well, some of them were parlor tricks, optical illusions, mass hypnosis. Sometimes people were hallucinating. I even used acupressure. That's how I cured most of the blind people, acupressure.
I: So not all of the New Testament is true?
J: Nah. Some of the gospel stuff never happened at all. It was just made up. Luke and Mark used a lot of drugs. Luke was a physician, and he had access to drugs. Matthew and John were okay, but Luke and Mark would write anything.
I: What about raising Lazarus from the dead?
J: First of all, he wasn’t dead, he was hungover. I've told people that.
I: But in the Bible you said he was dead.
J: No! I said he looked dead. I said, "Geez, Peter, this guy looks dead!" You see, Lazarus was a very heavy sleeper, plus the day before we had been to a wedding feast, and he had put away a lot of wine.
I: Ahh! Was that the wedding feast at Cana, where you changed the water into wine?
J: I don’t know. We went to an awful lot of wedding feasts in those days.
I: But did you ever really turn water into wine?
J: Not that I know of. One time I turned apple juice into milk, but I don’t recall the water and wine.
I: Alright, speaking of water, let me ask you about another miracle. What about walking on water? Did that really happen?
J: Oh yeah, that was one that really happened. You see, the problem was, I could do it, and the other guys couldn't. They were jealous. Peter got so mad at me he had these special shoes made, special big shoes, that if you started walkin real fast you could stay on top of the water awhile. Then, of course, after a few yards, splash, down he goes right into the water. He sinks like a rock.
I: Well, that brings up the Apostles. What can you tell us about the Apostles?
J: They smelled like bait, but they were a good bunch of guys. 13 of them we had.
I: Thirteen? The Bible says there were only 12.
J: Well, that was according to Luke. I told you about Luke. Actually we had 13. We had Peter, James, John, Andrew, Phillip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James (that’s a different James), Thaddeus. How many is that?
I: That's 10.
J: Simon, Judas and Red.
I: Red?
J: Yeah, Red the Apostle.
I: Red the Apostle doesn’t appear in the Bible.
J: Nah, Red kept pretty much to himself. He never came to any of the weddings. He was a little strange; he thought the Red Sea was named after him.
I: And what about Judas?
J: Don’t get me started on Judas. A completely unpleasant person, okay?
I: Well, what about the other Apostles like Thomas, was he really a doubter?
J: Believe me, this guy Thomas, you couldn’t tell him anything. He was always asking me for ID. Soon as I would see him, he would go, "You got any ID?" To this day he doesn’t believe who I am.
I: And who would that be?
J: I'm a member of the Trinity.
I: Yes. In fact, you're writing a book about the Trinity.
J: That’s right, its called Three's a Crowd.
I: As I understand it, it’s nothing more than a thinly veiled attack on the Holy Ghost.
J: Listen, it’s not an attack okay? It happens I don’t get along with the guy, so I leave him alone. That’s it. What he does is his business.
I: What's the reason?
J: Well, first of all, he’s a wise guy. Every time he shows up, he appears as something different. One day he’s a dove, another day he’s a tongue of fire. Always foolin around. I don’t bother with the guy. I don’t wanna know about him, I don’t wanna see him, I don’t wanna talk to him.
I: Well, let me change the subject. Is there really a place called hell?
J: Oh yeah, there’s a hell alright. There's also a heck. It’s not as severe as hell, but we've got a heck and a hell.
I: What about purgatory.
J: No, I don’t know about purgatory. We got heaven, hell, heck and limbo.
I: What is limbo like?
J: I don’t know. No one is allowed in. If anyone was in there it wouldn’t be limbo, it would just be another place.
I: Getting back to your previous visit, what can you tell us about the Last Supper?
J: Well first of all, if I woulda known I was gonna be crucified, I woulda had a bigger meal. You never want to be crucified on an empty stomach. As it was, I had a little salad and some veal.
I: The crucifixion must have been terrible.
J: Oh yeah it was awful. Unless you went through it yourself you could never know how painful it was. And tiring, it was very very tiring. But I think more than anything else it was embarrassing. You know, in front of all those people, to be crucified like that. But, I guess it redeemed a lot of people. I hope so. It would be a shame to do it for no reason.
I: Were you scared?
J: Oh yeah. I was afraid it was gonna rain; I thought for sure I would get hit by lightning. One good thing thought, while I was up there I had a really good view, I could actually see my house. There's always a bright side.
I: And then 3 days later you rose from the dead.
J: How’s that?
I: On Easter Sunday. You rose from the dead, didn’t you?
J: Not that I know of. I think I would remember something like that. I do remember sleeping a long time after the crucifixion. Like I said, it was very tiring. I think what mighta happened was I passed out and they thought I was dead. We didn’t have such good medical people in those days, it was mostly volunteers
I: And, according to the Bible, forty days later you ascended into heaven.
J: Pulleys! Ropes, pulleys and a harness. I think it was Simon who came up with a great harness thing that went under my toga. You couldn’t see it at all. Since that day, I've been in Heaven and, all in all, I would have to say that while I was down here I had a really good time. Except for the suffering.
I: And what do you think about Christianity today?
J: Well, I'm a little embarrassed by it. I wish they would take my name off it. If I had the whole thing to do over, I would probably start one of those Eastern religions like Buddha. Buddha was smart, that's why he's laughing.
I: You wouldn’t want to be a Christian?
J: No, I wouldn’t want to be a member of any group whose symbol is a man nailed on some wood. Especially if it’s me. Buddha's laughing, meanwhile I'm on the cross.
I: I have a few more questions, do you mind?
J: Be my guest, how often do I get here?
I: Are there really angels?
J: Well, not as many as we used to have. Years ago we had millions of them. Today you can’t get the young people to join. It got too dangerous with all the radar and heat-seeking missiles.
I: What about guardian angels? Are there such things?
J: Yes, we still have guardian angels, but now, with the population explosion, its one angel for every 6 people. Years ago everybody had their own angel.
I: Do you really answer prayers?
J: No. First of all, what with sun spots and radio interference, a lot them don’t even get through. And between you and me, we just don’t have the staff to handle the workload anymore. In the old days we took pride in answering every single prayer, but like I said, there were less people. And in those days people prayed for something simple, to light a fire, to catch a yak, something like that. But today you got people praying for football teams, for longer fingernails, to lose weight. We just can’t keep up.
I: Well, I think we're about out of time. I certainly want to thank you for visiting with us.
J: Hey, no problem.
I: Do you have any words of advice?
J: You mean like how to remove chewing gum from a suede garment? Something like that?
I: No, I mean spiritual advice.
J: Well, I don’t know how spiritual it is, but I'd say one thing is don’t give your money to the church. They should be giving their money to you.
I: Well, thank you, Jesus, and goodnight.
J: Well, goodnight, thanks for having me on here today. And by the way, in case anyone is interested, bell-bottoms will be coming back in the year 2015. Later.