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i would say the US t the moment due to bush

i see what ur saying but it's not America that's ur annoyed at it's bush, america itself is alright. Btw i'm not american

I would say the US as well.

I would agree the USA, but not the people, just their government.

I would agree the USA, but not the people, just their government.

Ugh! THeir government is filled with such @$$holes!

All of you people just hate our government, or more specificly Bush. If anyone out there truly hates a country whos people are free to do whatever they want, be whoever they want, and dream whatever they want, feel free to speak up.

I like the way that this thread is called 'What countrys (sic) do you hate most', to thinly disguise the fact that it should be called 'Who else hates the USA!?'

If anyone out there truly hates a country whos people are free to do whatever they want, be whoever they want, and dream whatever they want, feel free to speak up.

Evidently that's not the case, because these people probably don't hate Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Britain, Ireland, France, Germany, Belgium, Sweden, Denmark, etc.

The only thing that drives me mad about Americans is the way they seem to think they have some kind of monopoly on freedom.

I hate America, not just its government. I don't hate everything about it and I certainly don't hate every person on an individual level. But just as a general thing.

However, I hate the English more. Not all the English, I'd draw a line along the border of Cumbria and then following the Humber to the coast. North of that line you're okay. South of it I hate you in the same way I hate America.

This kind of hate is a general feeling, not towards individuals, but to a perceived attitude and way of life.

Sorry if it hurts, but it's the truth. A deep-rooted emotional response
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They dont call it the American Dream for nothing...I don't recall vast numbers of immigrants hitting England, Australia, Denmark, France, Germany, etc..I do recall tens of millions of Europeans immigrants making their way with little more then the shirt on their backs making it to these shores..I do recall the 180,000 Cubans that fled Castro's wonderland in the 80's during the Marielito episode....or the pregnant Mexican woman who ventured at nite, during labor to cross into the US, just so her child could be born on US soil, and therefore by birth become a US Citizen.

The simple fact is no..we don't own a monopoly on freedom...but we do have the bragging rights on bringing it to the world...were it not for our Revolution, the French certainly wouldn't have had theirs..there would be no Simon Bolivar to liberate South America from Spain..No Michael Collins to liberate Ireland...The world would still be ruled by a dozen or so connected monarchies.

All of you people just hate our government, or more specificly Bush. If anyone out there truly hates a country whos people are free to do whatever they want, be whoever they want, and dream whatever they want, feel free to speak up.
Except your country doesn't allow the people to do what they want or be what ever they want.

Except your country doesn't allow the people to do what they want or be what ever they want.

Granted..we aren't living in anarchy..but I would venture to say that you took that too liberally a phrase...I can be anything I want if I have the will, and the determination to be something...I can go anywhere I want without hindrance....I can say pretty much whatever I like..within reason of course. I can be a ditch digger...a farm worker, a neurosurgeon...anything I choose, now how do you justify that statement?

They dont call it the American Dream for nothing

That would work for ya, except you self imposed that title onto yourselves.. no one else thinks it. Just Americans and people who live in 3rd world countries.. then again people who live in 3rd world countries would be happy to go to any 1st world nation. Not just America.

the united states for sure, i also hate north korea. and israel. to many people are afraid to admit they hate israel because they think it's anti-semitic. it's not. the israeli government is a farce and does not represent jewish values whatsoever. those are the big three for me. the united states need to realise that freedom to be exploited isn't good freedom, and that free trade does not help poor countries, as is the case with Mexico. the last UN human development index ranked Cuba 52nd, while Mexico was 53rd. think about it.

Granted..we aren't living in anarchy..but I would venture to say that you took that too liberally a phrase...I can be anything I want if I have the will, and the determination to be something...I can go anywhere I want without hindrance....I can say pretty much whatever I like..within reason of course. I can be a ditch digger...a farm worker, a neurosurgeon...anything I choose, now how do you justify that statement?
Well, not anything you choose.

But other than my pedentry, there is nothing wrong with the statement.

That would work for ya, except you self imposed that title onto yourselves.. no one else thinks it. Just Americans and people who live in 3rd world countries.. then again people who live in 3rd world countries would be happy to go to any 1st world nation. Not just America.


I agree in part, but it was America that got the Freedom ball rolling! We did something that wasn't done! We broke away from the Parent Nation with the Declaration of Independence circa 1776! In 1783, we signed the Treaty of Paris with Britian announcing us a Free and Independant nation. In 1789, France had their own revolution.

I like to know how many people Canada freed. I like to know how many people France Freed, How many did Britian Free? The US has freed or given a chance at freedom to more people than any other nation on Earth. That is pure fact.

the united states for sure, i also hate north korea. and israel. to many people are afraid to admit they hate israel because they think it's anti-semitic. it's not. the israeli government is a farce and does not represent jewish values whatsoever. those are the big three for me. the united states need to realise that freedom to be exploited isn't good freedom, and that free trade does not help poor countries, as is the case with Mexico. the last UN human development index ranked Cuba 52nd, while Mexico was 53rd. think about it.

Well on the UN scale, the USA came in #8.. so it's not even the best country to live in.. the index is scaled on standard of living etc.. heck, my country came in 4th.. so Canada is a better country to live in twice as much as the USA.

That would work for ya, except you self imposed that title onto yourselves.. no one else thinks it. Just Americans and people who live in 3rd world countries.. then again people who live in 3rd world countries would be happy to go to any 1st world nation. Not just America.

Really Steph...I would suggest you speak to any of the tens of millions of 2nd World European immigrants who came here seeking a better life for themselves. And as for the 3rd World..please identify for me a country where 3rd world immigrants have been migrating to in mass numbers other then the US?

And that self-imposed title..my Italian-American (2nd Generation) next door neighbor might have a word with ya on that.

you fools
even the netherlands has immigrants from around the world
not just the USA

i hate the entire USA
not just they're goverment beceause these same americans voted for this goverment so thats no excuse

but i dont hate the USA from before WW2
after WW2 they thought they could police the entire world
and the reason so manny cubans emigrate to the USA is beceause the same USA made that country poor!

I agree in part, but it was America that got the Freedom ball rolling! We did something that wasn't done! We broke away from the Parent Nation with the Declaration of Independence circa 1776! In 1783, we signed the Treaty of Paris with Britian announcing us a Free and Independant nation. In 1789, France had their own revolution.

I like to know how many people Canada freed. I like to know how many people France Freed, How many did Britian Free? The US has freed or given a chance at freedom to more people than any other nation on Earth. That is pure fact.


If you want a really long post, just ask.. ;)

Canada was in WWII from the beginning.. 1939.. We are the only country that met all of our objectives on D-day.. we freed Holland basically single handily.. If you'd like some more history about what Canada has done, just ask!

I agree in part, but it was America that got the Freedom ball rolling! We did something that wasn't done! We broke away from the Parent Nation with the Declaration of Independence circa 1776! In 1783, we signed the Treaty of Paris with Britian announcing us a Free and Independant nation. In 1789, France had their own revolution.

A bit like what the Dutch did nearly 200 years earlier. And they were far smaller and far closer to their parent nation.

I like to know how many people Canada freed. I like to know how many people France Freed, How many did Britian Free? The US has freed or given a chance at freedom to more people than any other nation on Earth. That is pure fact.
*cough*the British Empire *cough*

By dismantalling the apparatus of Empire, Britain freed many from its rule.

Granted..we aren't living in anarchy..but I would venture to say that you took that too liberally a phrase...I can be anything I want if I have the will, and the determination to be something...I can go anywhere I want without hindrance....I can say pretty much whatever I like..within reason of course. I can be a ditch digger...a farm worker, a neurosurgeon...anything I choose, now how do you justify that statement?

All very laudable, but in what way is this different from any other Western democracy, say Canada, or France, or the UK, or Germany, or Spain, or Portugal, or... ?

Frankly, the idea of hating a country seems pretty crazy to me. "Ooh, that geographical expression really pisses me off! I hate that area inside such-and-such a set of imaginary lines!" And it's no more sensible when you apply it to the people who happen to live within those imaginary lines, either. Or to a vague generalisation about those millions of individual people.

Really Steph...I would suggest you speak to any of the tens of millions of 2nd World European immigrants who came here seeking a better life for themselves. And as for the 3rd World..please identify for me a country where 3rd world immigrants have been migrating to in mass numbers other then the US?

And that self-imposed title..my Italian-American (2nd Generation) next door neighbor might have a word with ya on that.

What have you done lately? You want to babble on about 60 years ago, or longer? Or talk about here, now, today!

alot of americans hate bush... I am definitely one of them.. he's a idiot...

and..as a native american...

i hate america sometimes too....


as far as other countries... i don't hate any of them... they all could use some work... well.. except for Canada... they're cool... oh and.. New Zealand.. and..Australia... seem to be holding it down...

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amor vinicit omnia

If you want a really long post, just ask.. ;)

Canada was in WWII from the beginning.. 1939.. We are the only country that met all of our objectives on D-day.. we freed Holland basically single handily.. If you'd like some more history about what Canada has done, just ask!

that is all you have? Holland? HAHA!! USA Freed Western Europe, Keeps South Korea Free, Keeps Tawain Free! Kept Western Europe, yes with allies too but mostly US, Free. Pacific, Freed by the USA! Philippines? Liberated by US Forces twice! France? Liberated twice!

How many has France liberated? ZERO!!!
Canada: just Holland! You might have been there from the start but really now, if you look at history, we did too or haven't you Forgotten LEND-LEASE! Where we Supplied the damn Brits! Or how about when we issued Cash and Carry! Germany couldn't do it but Britian Did and basically all trade stopped with Germany in military goods. Thus we were there at the start of WWII just not militarily! Read your history better Steph, I'm surprised you didn't know this!

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What have you done lately? You want to babble on about 60 years ago, or longer? Or talk about here, now, today!

European migration may have been sizably reduced in the last 40 yrs..but they still come here...and you made a specific statement that 3rd World immigrants would come to any 1st World country...I asked you to name a country other then the US where the 3rd world has migrated to in numbers equal to the US...that's the here and now.

So you hate the USA for getting a bit annoyed after 9/11, the same way you hate the jews for getting a bit annoyed after 5 odd million of them were murdered during WW2. I bet you just love the good old martial arts Japanese and the Germans in their ever so cool black uniforms ....WOW!

Ok the Yanks can be childish, uncultured and ignorant about most of the outside world, but don't forget that if it wasn't for their help we might never have beaten the Nazis ... or may even have ended-up under a communist government with a traitor like George Galloway as our puppet Prime Minister!

A bit like what the Dutch did nearly 200 years earlier. And they were far smaller and far closer to their parent nation.


*cough*the British Empire *cough*

By dismantalling the apparatus of Empire, Britain freed many from its rule.

Liberated then! If you want to get technical! The british couldn't afford to hang on to them but now, many of those areas that they "freed are either under despots or dictators, or both. Really only India and mayb a couple of African nations are better off but not to much of the british empire is free!

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that is all you have? Holland? HAHA!! USA Freed Western Europe, Keeps South Korea Free, Keeps Tawain Free! Kept Western Europe, yes with allies too but mostly US, Free. Pacific, Freed by the USA! Philippines? Liberated by US Forces twice! France? Liberated twice!

How many has France liberated? ZERO!!!
Canada: just Holland! You might have been there from the start but really now, if you look at history, we did too or haven't you Forgotten LEND-LEASE! Where we Supplied the damn Brits! Or how about when we issued Cash and Carry! Germany couldn't do it but Britian Did and basically all trade stopped with Germany in military goods. Thus we were there at the start of WWII just not militarily! Read your history better Steph, I'm surprised you didn't know this!

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Oh, you mean lend-lease, yeah, Canada had one too.. we were the largest supplier to the UK..

Oh, btw, are you trying to say America did all that alone? Yes, American freed Europe.. it's not like there weren't any allies involved.. It's not like the USSR did more.. hahaha.. don't talk to me about history till you finish at least high school...lol :rolleyes:

We liberated the netherlands AND belgium. jeez. also it's kinda hard to liberate as many countries when you only have a population of 10 million (that was the canadian population during WWII). and guess what? the u.s. didn't end the holocaust! the soviets did! what? those commie bastards did? as a matter of fact they did! last time i checked the nazis put JEWS and SLAVS in concentration camps... JEWS and SLAVS were few and far between in western europe and abundant in eastern europe.

Oh, you mean lend-lease, yeah, Canada had one too.. we were the largest supplier to the UK..

Oh, btw, are you trying to say America did all that alone? Yes, American freed Europe.. it's not like there weren't any allies involved.. It's not like the USSR did more.. hahaha.. don't talk to me about history till you finish at least high school...lol :rolleyes:

Prove that you were! I want to see what exactly you gave! Ican find numbers from the US and unless you had one hell of an Industry, then I doubt that very much Steph! US supplied more war material than Canada.

Did I say that? no! We did however, Freed the Philippines by ourself, We are basically keeping Tawain Free by ourself, South Korea, basically by ourself! Eastern Europe was by ourself because we continuously uped the Anty on the Soviet Union and Bankrupt them and they crumbled, so yes, we did free Eastern Europe by ourself.

As for history, I think you need to go back and relearn it! I have studied WWII in depth! Most campaigns had american Made Tanks and weapons! Thus we have been in the fight just not militarily. Only after Pearl and Hitler and Mussolini declared war did we get involved. When we did, we took it and fought it with vigor. You might have taken your objectives but the US Suffered more because we had the toughest beach. Patton Gained more ground than any other unit in History! If it wasn't for politics, Patton probably could've gottin' Berlin.

In a different post, your right about that but I don't recall mentioning anything about the holocaust. However, the USSR kept their possessions under the WWII argreement in virtual slavery to them. Only after did Reagan outspent the Soviet Union did they become free.

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We liberated the netherlands AND belgium. jeez. also it's kinda hard to liberate as many countries when you only have a population of 10 million (that was the canadian population during WWII). and guess what? the u.s. didn't end the holocaust! the soviets did! what? those commie bastards did? as a matter of fact they did! last time i checked the nazis put JEWS and SLAVS in concentration camps... JEWS and SLAVS were few and far between in western europe and abundant in eastern europe.


well said patar.... well said.....

Well, in the non-net world, I am aactually a citizen of the US and I understand the antipathy that many people have toward the neo-imperialist good ol' USA. Of course, George Bush is an enemy of the people but, come November, if he is not voted out of office, can we then say that we hate America's people, too, and not only its government?

Prove that you were! I want to see what exactly you gave! Ican find numbers from the US and unless you had one hell of an Industry, then I doubt that very much Steph! US supplied more war material than Canada.

Did I say that? no! We did however, Freed the Philippines by ourself, We are basically keeping Tawain Free by ourself, South Korea, basically by ourself! Eastern Europe was by ourself because we continuously uped the Anty on the Soviet Union and Bankrupt them and they crumbled, so yes, we did free Eastern Europe by ourself.

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France Crumbles;

For a full year, from June 1940 when France fell until June 1941 when the Germans invaded Russia, Canada was the second largest power in the struggle against Hitler's Europe.

After the evacuation at Dunkirk and while Paris was enduring its short-lived siege, a Canadian and a Scottish division were sent to Normandy (Brest) and penetrated 200 miles inland toward Paris before they heard that Paris had fallen and France had capitulated. They retreated and re-embarked for England, and that was a good thing. At this stage of the war, the Germans would probably have destroyed them.

At the same time as the Canadian 1st division landed in Brest, the Canadian 242 Squadron (Douglas Bader's squadron) of the RAF flew their Hurricanes to Nantes (100 miles south-east) and set up there to provide air cover.

After the fall of France, the 1st Canadian Division was the only mobile, armed and fully manned ground division in all of the British Isles, and defence against a German invasion might have fallen squarely on it.

Canada - Arsenal to the War Effort;

Canadian war factories were safe from bombing. Canada became an arsenal, and was Britain's chief overseas supplier of war materiel.

Canada did not accept American Lend-Lease aid. Actually Canada ran its own lend-lease program for its allies called "Mutual Aid", supplying its allies with four billion dollars worth of war materiel. A further credit of a billion dollars was given to Britain.

oh and by the way... gorbachev destroyed the soviet fascist machine, not reagan, gorbachev, so stop thinking you guys are the goddamn kings of the free world.

i would say the US t the moment due to bush
I'm sorry, but you're an idiot, and so is anyone else who hates an entire country. It's OK to hate a government's actions, but don't hate the people for that.

People talk a lot about anti-Americanism in the world. But what about all the anti-Europeanism in America? A lot of American idiots started to hate France when Bush renamed French fries "freedom fries". Some of them destroyed French products, sent hate mail to French companies... they did all but publicly burn the French flag (and I wouldn't be surprised if someone, somewhere, actually did so). Bookings for holidays to France in 2003 even went down by 30% on 2002!

oh and by the way... gorbachev destroyed the soviet fascist machine, not reagan, gorbachev, so stop thinking you guys are the goddamn kings of the free world.

It imploded from within.. they had been bluffing since the 60's.. if people think a few catchy phrases by Reagan "Tear down these walls" is what did it, they don't have a freaking clue as to what was going on in the USSR at the time.

I think the USA at the moment, also the United Kingdom, and Turkey, and Mexico. I think most other nations are okay at the given moment, but Turkey has to get out of Cyprus, USA has an annoying president, but certain states seem to be okay, the UK with Blair, and Mexico because of their giant gaps in income.

France Crumbles;

For a full year, from June 1940 when France fell until June 1941 when the Germans invaded Russia, Canada was the second largest power in the struggle against Hitler's Europe.

After the evacuation at Dunkirk and while Paris was enduring its short-lived siege, a Canadian and a Scottish division were sent to Normandy (Brest) and penetrated 200 miles inland toward Paris before they heard that Paris had fallen and France had capitulated. They retreated and re-embarked for England, and that was a good thing. At this stage of the war, the Germans would probably have destroyed them.

At the same time as the Canadian 1st division landed in Brest, the Canadian 242 Squadron (Douglas Bader's squadron) of the RAF flew their Hurricanes to Nantes (100 miles south-east) and set up there to provide air cover.

After the fall of France, the 1st Canadian Division was the only mobile, armed and fully manned ground division in all of the British Isles, and defence against a German invasion might have fallen squarely on it.

Canada - Arsenal to the War Effort;

Canadian war factories were safe from bombing. Canada became an arsenal, and was Britain's chief overseas supplier of war materiel.

Canada did not accept American Lend-Lease aid. Actually Canada ran its own lend-lease program for its allies called "Mutual Aid", supplying its allies with four billion dollars worth of war materiel. A further credit of a billion dollars was given to Britain.

Nice piece of history. But you never did answer my question. Canada was in from the Start MILITARILY!!!!! We were in it ECONOMICALLY! Big difference, now again you may have had your own aide program but the US gave more!

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This is what we call on Nationstates "a hit and run" .. :rolleyes:

It imploded from within.. they had been bluffing since the 60's.. if people think a few catchy phrases by Reagan "Tear down these walls" is what did it, they don't have a freaking clue as to what was going on in the USSR at the time.

I think you are both overlook the real reason.:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/3465301.stm

Nice piece of history. But you never did answer my question. Canada was in from the Start MILITARILY!!!!! We were in it ECONOMICALLY! Big difference, now again you may have had your own aide program but the US gave more!

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are you on crack? serious question, cause you are just really incoherent. i have no clue what the numbers are or whatever, but i'm pretty sure the allies respected Canada more due to the fact we decided to confront hitler right away, and weren't totally pussies and had to wait to be attacked first.

I think you are both overlook the real reason.:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/3465301.stm


hahahahahahahahah YES, you just made my day. I LOVE MICHAEL KNIGHT!

Everyone shoul'd remember if it was not for the U S we woul'd all be speaking german now.
We all have a duty to never forget that before we slagg the country off.
And I say this as a english man here in the U K, and one other thing George Bush shoul'd be applauded for having the balls to remove that nut case Sadam Hussain.
All you lefties really get on my nerves with your constant moaning and whining.

this thread is an open invitation to blatant flame, i think.

sadly, it would appear to have turned to flames and flamebait..

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