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Tony Blair is a great American Ally because he supports America in the War on Terror I DEFY you to say other wise

Who would? Tony Blair supports the War on Terror.


However, the British people do not.

The Brits are misguided they rely too much on socialist media like BBC and Deusche Welle

And the Americans are misguided because while they denounce their Liberal media they fail to notice it's all actually centrist to moderate to extreme right wing.

Your point?

The British by the poll don't want to support the War on Terror and Blair is holding them against their will in it. American ally, yes, but great is subjective.

OK. I'll bite.

"Otherwise"


In other news, Jean Chretien was a great ally of the United States in that he ensured that Canada was the FIRST country to sign up to go to war with the US against Al Qaeda.

He was also a great ally for truth in that he recognized that Iraq was a sideshow and refused to go along with it while maintaining our commitment to the actual War on Terror by ensuring that our troops still operate in Kabul.

And the Americans are misguided because while they denounce their Liberal media they fail to notice it's all actually centrist to moderate to extreme right wing.

Your point?

The British by the poll don't want to support the War on Terror and Blair is holding them against their will in it. American ally, yes, but great is subjective.
each country has its drawbacks

You mean lapdog.

How many Americans killed by terrorists each year in the US?

In 2001, approx: 2,700.
Yes, the number has decidedly gone down since, but 2,700 is not an easy number to forget.

How many Americans killed by terrorists each year in the US?
So far the grand total is 900 soldiers plus the 3000 helpless souls at the WTC

How many before and since 2001 ?

Tony Blair is a great American Ally because he supports America in the War on Terror I DEFY you to say other wise
Tony Blair is a moron and will lose the next elections for beeing such a good American pet.

How many Americans killed by Americans every year?

Tony Blair won't lose the next election but if he resigned (as he should) Labour would be laughing

168 were killed in the Oklahoma City bombing. I don't know any more statistics of the sort off the top of my head.

How many before and since 2001 ?
Well lets see there was the bombing of the USS Cole which claimed 16 or so, the bombing of The Embassies in Kenya which claimed about 220 or so, the Oklahoma city bombing which claimed 168 and the Bombing of the US barracks in Lebannon which killed about 230

I meant lost lives in general

I meant lost lives in general
you can add right?

And are we winning the war on terror or just satisfying bloodlust?

That would make about 634 total give or take a few

That would make about 634 total give or take a few
not counting 9/11 or the Afghan/Iraq war

Tony Blair is a great American Ally because he supports America in the War on Terror I DEFY you to say other wise

Otherwise, I say... because you have DEFIED me to.

Oh I can add but you can miss the point entirely

And are we winning the war on terror or just satisfying bloodlust?
bloodlust for whom not any american (and if you say Bush you're wrong)

Well, if someone hurt innocent people you know, would you stand back and do nothing?

Well, if someone hurt innocent people you know, would you stand back and do nothing?

Well I wouldn't turn around and kill more innocent people

Well, if someone hurt innocent people you know, would you stand back and do nothing?

I would also hunt down the real perpetrators with all my energy and not go off on some fake war

And you call the genocide of Kurds innocent? Because the people we are going after sure as hell followed Saddam.

I would also hunt down the real perpetrators with all my energy and not go off on some fake war
Have all of you forgotten how Saddam was a ruthless mass murderer and how he "illegally" invaded Kuwait and Iran.

(I know my replies are a bit lagged, please forgive). The people we went after in Afghanistan were the perpetrators. In Iraq, we did essentially what we did in WWII.

And you call the genocide of Kurds innocent? Because the people we are going after sure as hell followed Saddam.

Hmmmm....... and on that note.........

Hiroshima Nagasaki Goodnight

And you call the genocide of Kurds innocent? Because the people we are going after sure as hell followed Saddam.
News must travel extremely slow in the US then. Cause the killing of the Kurds by Saddam happened years ago. Even before the 1st Gulfwar. Can't remember seeing any holier then thou Yank troops go to war to save them then.

I am having a hard time following the several different tangents you like to skew off on. On one point, you criticize current leaders, then you go off on our previous leaders. For one, we needed a quick end to the war. At the time, the long term effects of radiation were unexplored, we did what was necessary to stop the god damn war. Yet I hardly see a past president's decision has relevance in Bush's decision making for Iraq.

Hmmmm....... and on that note.........

Hiroshima Nagasaki Goodnight
Did you know that if the US had invaded japan like Normandy, then the cost of both Japanese and American lives would have easily doubled or tripled the number of lives lost in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Japanese had trained almost all their population to attack and kill Americans

I am having a hard time following the several different tangents you like to skew off on. On one point, you criticize current leaders, then you go off on our previous leaders. For one, we needed a quick end to the war. At the time, the long term effects of radiation were unexplored, we did what was necessary to stop the god damn war. Yet I hardly see how a past president's decision has relevance in Bush's decision making for Iraq.

I am having a hard time following the several different tangents you like to skew off on. On one point, you criticize current leaders, then you go off on our previous leaders. For one, we needed a quick end to the war. At the time, the long term effects of radiation were unexplored, we did what was necessary to stop the god damn war. Yet I hardly see a past president's decision has relevance in Bush's decision making for Iraq.

Actually the war was virtually over when we dropped those bombs - we just wanted to make a point and show the world how tough we are - something we've been doing ever since.

My point is simple - it's wrong to kill people

My apologies for the double post.

Did you know that if the US had invaded japan like Normandy, then the cost of both Japanese and American lives would have easily doubled or tripled the number of lives lost in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Japanese had trained almost all their population to attack and kill Americans

That is pure paranoid fantasy

Actually the war was virtually over when we dropped those bombs - we just wanted to make a point and show the world how tough we are - something we've been doing ever since.

My point is simple - it's wrong to kill people
Thats right the war was over when we dropped the bombs

That is pure paranoid fantasy
That is history tried and true but people like you tend to want to change to a more "warm and fuzzy" like way

Thats right the war was over when we dropped the bombs

ah ignore the word 'virtually' at you peril

That is history tried and true but people like you tend to want to change to a more "warm and fuzzy" like way

now we're getting personal

That is history tried and true but people like you tend to want to change to a more "warm and fuzzy" like way

Actually right now I'm guessing I have more memories of WW2 than you do

Did you know that if the US had invaded japan like Normandy, then the cost of both Japanese and American lives would have easily doubled or tripled the number of lives lost in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Japanese had trained almost all their population to attack and kill Americans
Sure. You nuked them out of compassion. :rolleyes:

That is history tried and true but people like you tend to want to change to a more "warm and fuzzy" like way

Ah "warm and fuzzy" you were referring to the burning children

Justification for the Bombing of Japan
http://www.doug-long.com/

Just before I sign off - yes Tony Blair is a great American Ally. But most of the UK wished he were like Hugh Grant in 'Love Actually' and told the US President exactly where to go.

Justification for the Bombing of Japan
http://www.doug-long.com/
its a good site you may learn something new :)

its a good site you may learn something new :)

Yeah but will you learn the difference between right and wrong?

Yeah but will you learn the difference between right and wrong?
All's fair in love and war

Unfortunately most peoples view of right and wrong varies somewhat. Not everything is seen in black and white as a child most often sees. As adults we justify actions, and I am not saying we should not, but that is where the line between black and white blurs. What I see as right, you see as wrong, and I more than likely cannot change your view on that.

I can't say I've ever trusted Blair since the day he was elected. Major was much better, even if he was boring.

Blair's eyes are too close together, and besides, he eats babies.