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My nerdy friends and I have been having a debate lately about who the greatest video game villain of all time. The majority of the group chose Sephiroth of FF VII as the greatest. Other leading contenders in the group were Bowser from the Super Mario series and Ganon of the Legend of Zelda series.

I have not yet made up my mind on this matter, but I am thus far leaning towards Sephiroth. I do like the idea of a villain as a guy who just wants to blow up the world out of spite and the quest for power. Not to mention he's got an awsome ginormous sword.

I'd like to hear from you out there on who you think should be titled the greatest.

Walter Simmons [sp?]


(Anyone have any idea what I am on about?)

America - Civilization 2 (turning this thread political)

America - Civilization 2 (turning this thread political)
That wasn't really a villain though.

[sp?]

It's Walton Simons. But surely Bob Page if we're going to take from DX?

Kronos; Age of Mythology, The Titans.

Max 300 - DDR
:mp5:
Zerg Rush - Starcraft
:sniper:
Rapist - Phantasmagoria
:cool:
Weird Alien Building - The Dig
:gundge:
Other Paddle - Pong
:mad:
Boredom - Xbox
:headbang:

How about that organization that you find out about in the ending credits of MGS2? I haven't played it in a while so I forget what they're called..."The Patriots" maybe? Anyway, I think they take the cake. (I'm not talking about the in-game villians, I'm talking about the storyline villians that you don't hear about until the game is over...)

Giant Baby Creature - Half Life
:D
No Fire Alarm - The Sims
:eek:
Confusing Puzzles - Chip's Adventure
:confused:
John Wayne - The Lone Ranger
;)
Diesel - Thomas the Tank Engine
:mad:

Max 300 - DDR
:mp5:
Zerg Rush - Starcraft
:sniper:
Rapist - Phantasmagoria
:cool:
Weird Alien Building - The Dig
:gundge:
Other Paddle - Pong
:mad:
Boredom - Xbox
:headbang:

Wasn't that profiled on Something Awful?

Wasn't that profiled on Something Awful?

Probably, lol. I post on there a lot some of the stuff they've said spills over.

How about that organization that you find out about in the ending credits of MGS2? I haven't played it in a while so I forget what they're called..."The Patriots" maybe? Anyway, I think they take the cake. (I'm not talking about the in-game villians, I'm talking about the storyline villians that you don't hear about until the game is over...)

Yeah they're called the Patriots, though you do hear about them beforehand - they crop up throughout the game in conversations.

revolver ocelot was a bad ass but nowhere near sephiroth

It's Walton Simons. But surely Bob Page if we're going to take from DX?
Bah, I knew it was wrong.

You don't get to fight Page though. Anyway, Simons if far cooler imo.

Simply on terms of evilness, you gotta go for Page over Simons though. Listen to him as you go through Area 51.

How about that organization that you find out about in the ending credits of MGS2? I haven't played it in a while so I forget what they're called..."The Patriots" maybe? Anyway, I think they take the cake. (I'm not talking about the in-game villians, I'm talking about the storyline villians that you don't hear about until the game is over...)


I considered mentioning the Patriots, but didn't because the game implies them as the sort of Skull and Bones Scociety and Illuminate, which are part of the real world, so they don't really count as true video game villains, but are an interesting evil force of the story.

Simply on terms of evilness, you gotta go for Page over Simons though. Listen to him as you go through Area 51.

What in the hell are you talking about?
:fluffle:

PS I think "The Magician" at the end of Typing of the Dead is a true beast

How about Dalia Gallespie (sp?)?!

Umbrella Corp.

Umbrella Corp.
I thought that was an accident on their part? Resident Evil isn't that great of a game anyway.

How about "John" or whatever the guys name is in Pokemon!? YEA! He was super-evil. Or better yet, the Rocket Crew! Pokemon = AWESOMEONTEAIHEWRA~!! Pokemon = Proof of evolution! Hahahahaha wewt.

(Just kidding...you're better off ignoring this post probably...)

I thought about this for a long time (well, maybe two or three minutes), and came to the conclusion that all video game villains are crap.

I thought that was an accident on their part?

That's what they want you to think.

Resident Evil isn't that great of a game anyway.

Shrug .... something about opinions and assholes comes to mind.

If you consider Helios the villain than he was definately the best game bad guy of all time. If not, then Bob Page.

The Timesplitters, lol

Or any or all of the corporations from Armored Core

If you consider Helios the villain than he was definately the best game bad guy of all time. If not, then Bob Page.

But Helios wasn't evil, its intentions were for the good of mankind, at least in DX1 (weren't they?).

The aliens in "Missile Command."

They ALWAYS won.

Greatest video-game villain? Mara Armov, Mikhai Niculescu, and Jason Chance: all from the Syphon Filter video-game series. Other notable villains are Gannon (Legend of Zelda) and King Koopa (Mario).....

But Helios wasn't evil, its intentions were for the good of mankind, at least in DX1 (weren't they?).

Yeah. But in the second, all the villains were pussies.

Yeah. But in the second, all the villains were pussies.

Thats true. There weren't any good endings either. Nothing like plummeting the world into a new Dark Age though.

Greatest videogame villain?

Definately Ghaleon from Lunar:Silver Star Story

Nothing more frightening than a good guy turned bad and trying to enslave all humans for their own good...

Thats true. There weren't any good endings either. Nothing like plummeting the world into a new Dark Age though.
Are you refering to the Templat of Omar endings.

Omar was the coolest though.

Tell a lie. The Party one was. With Burning penguins.

Are you refering to the Templat of Omar endings.

Omar was the coolest though.

Tell a lie. The Party one was. With Burning penguins.

I was referring to the Tracer Tong ending in the first game, but you're right, the Omar ending in DX 2 was rather amazing.

I didn't like any of the DX2 endings really - you were forced to choose between deceiving the entire human race (Illuminati), siding with the psycho close-to-Nazi Templars, letting JC/Helios violate everyone's minds (if you talk to him/it for ages in Antarctica, Alex asks something like "But what if people don't want to be merged with Helios?" and he/it replies along the lines of "It's for their own good", a principle which I really don't like in government), or you're responsible for World War 3 (or is it 4? was the Collapse 3?).

I didn't like any of the DX2 endings really - you were forced to choose between deceiving the entire human race (Illuminati), siding with the psycho close-to-Nazi Templars, letting JC/Helios violate everyone's minds (if you talk to him/it for ages in Antarctica, Alex asks something like "But what if people don't want to be merged with Helios?" and he/it replies along the lines of "It's for their own good", a principle which I really don't like in government), or you're responsible for World War 3 (or is it 4? was the Collapse 3?).
That's why the party ending is best.

But in all honesty, that sucks too.

PS. I don't think that the collapse counts as a war.

I didn't like any of the DX2 endings really - you were forced to choose between deceiving the entire human race (Illuminati), siding with the psycho close-to-Nazi Templars, letting JC/Helios violate everyone's minds (if you talk to him/it for ages in Antarctica, Alex asks something like "But what if people don't want to be merged with Helios?" and he/it replies along the lines of "It's for their own good", a principle which I really don't like in government), or you're responsible for World War 3 (or is it 4? was the Collapse 3?).

I agree. It was a choice between extremes that just were not interesting enough. I maintain my stance that plunging the world into a new dark age by destroying communication is the coolest ending to any game, and the quotations at the end DX 1 were a nice touch. The Helios ending was really good too, though.

I agree. It was a choice between extremes that just were not interesting enough. I maintain my stance that plunging the world into a new dark age by destroying communication is the coolest ending to any game, and the quotations at the end DX 1 were a nice touch. The Helios ending was really good too, though.

DXIW really was a serious letdown. Damn the XBoxers, who had it console-ised, and those who complained that the first game was too long and complex!

DXIW really was a serious letdown. Damn the XBoxers, who had it console-ised, and those who complained that the first game was too long and complex!
What did you think of the 'real' physics?

Let's not forget Kerrigan and Arthas. Good guys gone bad make some of the best villians, and they were both sooooooo eeeeeeeviiiiiiiiil. Just look at how Kerrigan ruthlessly slaughters (don't get onto me about spoilers, the game's been out for years) Fenix and Duke, and let's not forget the ending to "The Frozen Throne."

The main villian in Fallout was really cool, too, especially if you get the negotiator's ending.

What did you think of the 'real' physics?

I thought they were alright, but I expected better. Overall, I liked how the game looked, with all the lighting effects.

Novel, pretty cool, except some things were just a little ridiculous. But I would have been happy with just new missions and cut-scenes for the original game.

Novel, pretty cool

Ben's response to comments about Ideas raised by Rush Limbaugh that the Middle-East should be nuked.

I can't believe nobody has said Donkey Kong yet ...

How about "John" or whatever the guys name is in Pokemon!? YEA! He was super-evil. Or better yet, the Rocket Crew! Pokemon = AWESOMEONTEAIHEWRA~!! Pokemon = Proof of evolution! Hahahahaha wewt.

(Just kidding...you're better off ignoring this post probably...)

His name is Gary Oak. Grow a brain jerk :mad:

Ben's response to comments about Ideas raised by Rush Limbaugh that the Middle-East should be nuked.

Just itching to try out this new Jolt "report bad post button" if you keep being annoying.

hehe, I'm sure your beloved Conservative party would cater for such a breach of civil liberties.

Just itching to try out this new Jolt "report bad post button" if you keep being annoying.

hey man whats up :cool:

grow a brain jerk! :mad:

The ducks from duckhunt.

grow a brain jerk! :mad:

Is that your sig or was it directed at me?

Is that your sig or was it directed at me?

lol I'm saying it to the person that's bringing other posts into this post

PS

grow a brain jerk :mad:

lol I'm saying it to the person that's bringing other posts into this post

Oh NWV. I know him in RL ("you mean there's a world outside NS?!"), you just have to ignore him, cause he's just aiming for a reaction.

Definitly Sepiroth

He is the Bad ass package in my opinion :mp5:

The Covenant - Halo

The ducks from duckhunt.

Ah! So many memories from long ago.....thanks for bringing that up....personally, I would consider that stupid dog the greatest of the villians...it laughed at you when you missed....damn dog.... :p

It has to be Bowser, he's the original. It's either him or the original Donkey Kong.

SHODAN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHODAN) from System Shock and System Shock 2. I can't believe there have been as many posts as there are and no one has mentioned this psychotic computer intelligence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/e/ed/Shodan.jpg

edit: What's up with img tags here?

SHODAN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHODAN) from System Shock and System Shock 2. I can't believe there have been as many posts as there are and no one has mentioned this psychotic computer intelligence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/e/ed/Shodan.jpg

edit: What's up with img tags here?

Damn!!! I was just going to say Shodan>Helios even though i'm only halfway through the game :D

Love SS2...but they don't have any human interaction (at least in no.2, haven't played the first)and its kinda annoying being stuck on a ship all alone...well, not quite all alone *checks behind and panics at seeing mutant with wrench* At least...I don't *think* they have human interaction, i'm only halfway or so...maybe someone is still alive. Then again, you really do feel something from the crew members logs, and eventually tracking down and finding their dead bodies for that elusive engineering passcode...

I loved DX as well, but the only game that gets 50% of the scare factor of SS2 was Aliens vs Predator, playing as marine.

Alien's and Alien DNA virus in Theme Hospital

"Please refrain from puking int he corriders, THANK-youu!"

Let's not forget Kerrigan and Arthas. Good guys gone bad make some of the best villians, and they were both sooooooo eeeeeeeviiiiiiiiil. Just look at how Kerrigan ruthlessly slaughters (don't get onto me about spoilers, the game's been out for years) Fenix and Duke, and let's not forget the ending to "The Frozen Throne."

The main villian in Fallout was really cool, too, especially if you get the negotiator's ending.

arthus is very cool, when he kills his father

and baal in diablo2x, when he kills that guy outside of secheron
and shang tsung from mortal kombat

Let's not forget Kerrigan and Arthas. Good guys gone bad make some of the best villians, and they were both sooooooo eeeeeeeviiiiiiiiil. Just look at how Kerrigan ruthlessly slaughters (don't get onto me about spoilers, the game's been out for years) Fenix and Duke, and let's not forget the ending to "The Frozen Throne."

The main villian in Fallout was really cool, too, especially if you get the negotiator's ending.

arthus is very cool, when he kills his father

and baal in diablo2x, when he kills that guy outside of secheron
and shang tsung from mortal kombat