NationStates Jolt Archive


Lax and Spend Republicans

The Friendly Facist
21-07-2004, 00:47
CHB (http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4856.shtml)

The latest federal deficit figures are out and, as predicted, they are not good.

Through the first nine months of fiscal 2004 the deficit, the difference between what the government takes in and what it spends, was $326.6 billion -- larger than all but one previous full-year deficit and on track to reach a record $450 billion to $477 billion when the fiscal year ends Sept. 30.

The record deficit to date was $374 billion last year, the younger Bush having eclipsed the earlier record of his father.

In the administration's last budget, the White House forecast this year's deficit at an eye-opening $520 billion, but many believed that this was a high-ball estimate so that if the final deficit comes in at what most analysts predict, the White House can say it was "only" $450 billion.

Senior Bush administration officials are said to believe that deficits don't really matter, and they don't -- to them. They'll be long gone by the time the bills come in.

But deficits have a short-term effect that can't be ignored. They add to the total national debt, currently at a rate of $1.7 billion a day, according to one debt watcher. The total public debt is now just over $7.2 trillion.

And herein lies a problem. There is a limit on how much the Treasury can borrow; to borrow more, Congress must raise the debt limit. The Treasury would like authority to borrow another $690 billion. Earlier this summer, the Treasury thought it could last until late summer without an increase. Now it suggests it might be able to hold out until October, but in any case, it really needs that increase.

Unfortunately, raising the debt limit -- the Bush administration has been forced to do it twice already -- is an occasion for political fun and games.

The Democrats say, "Lookee here. The Republicans went and spent all our money, and we've got to go out and borrow more."

And the Republicans reply, "The deficits are only temporary and thanks to the wisdom of our economic policies we'll get it all back and more."

Whom you believe can be settled this November. But right now Congress has very little time -- fewer than 30 legislative days until the members knock off to go campaigning. No one knows what would happen if Uncle Sam had to begin defaulting, and no one wants to find out. So, lawmakers have your fun and then raise the debt limit. Quickly.

Is the U.S going to ba as depicted in Dark angel in Thirty years? Or do The Neo-cons know something we dont and dont plan for there to be an economy very much longer.
Doomduckistan
21-07-2004, 01:02
Eventually they'll get kicked out of office and something will bring the economy back up. Whether that'll happen after a slight recession or after Somalia has a higher GDP than us is debatable.
Vorringia
21-07-2004, 01:06
If America goes down then it takes all of the world's economy with it. Stock Markets and most foreign currency reserves are in US dollars. The only thing America could do to avoid bankruptcy would be to print so many bills that it devalue the dollar to near nothing and give the creditors their now worthless paper.

Living in Canada, I'd hate to see America end up like Dark Angel in 30 years, you'd take us down with you...
Doomduckistan
21-07-2004, 01:26
[Political Humour]
And the liberals will blame Bush II for it.

Of course, the conservatives will blame Clinton, so it balances out.
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If the US collapsed, the world might recede into a Dark Age. Not being arrogant or anything, but we are a cornerstone of the world economy. But I doubt it would cause Global Anarchy. Maybe a bigger version of the Great Depression.
MKULTRA
21-07-2004, 01:29
maybe if the world economy collapsed we can finally get some progressive change in society
Purly Euclid
21-07-2004, 02:45
I think we have a simple solution to ending the deficit: getting rid of the lobbyists. Ever since every step of law-making has been opened to the public, spending has gone through the roof, as only lobbyists take advantage of the new freedoms.
Take, for example, mohair. It's a goat's fur used in military uniforms back in the fifties. Congress funded it then, since they reasoned that it was vital to national security. Stronger, cheaper synthetic fibers have since replaced them, but where's the mohair subsidy? It still exists to this day. It shows that only issues of the past have lobbies. Issues of the future recieves no attention, because lobbyists won't allow any politician, Democrat or Republican, to yeild.