NationStates Jolt Archive


I'm a conservative

Myrth
19-07-2004, 10:30
A person who lost an election should still get the job.

France has never given us supplies, credibility, or good advice.

Having been the son of a president and board member of oil companies makes a person fully aware of the needs of middle America.

Getting investment capital from people who ignore/fund terrorists makes you an unbiased party when the time comes to fight terrorists.

Iraq is a much safer tourist destination now than it was in March 2001.

How dare Saddam kill and oppress his own people...who would ever give this man weapons?

A pile of body bags is a very orderly group.

Its ok that 60% of U.S. Companies pay no income tax. We don't need the money.

Defense spending is so effective that there was more terrorism in 2003 than in 2002. Good thing we didn't waste that money educating children.

People who can't do anything else become presidents.

Why should I have to wait for 72 hours to buy an M-16 just because 32,000 people get shot every year?

Parents who weren't involved enough not to know that their kid is having unprotected sex are really responsible.

People who have no home or money would never turn to crime to feed their children.

Treating people differently because of race, gender, creed, or sexual orientation never leads to hate and violence.

Racial profiling is a great idea, because no one who commits domestic terrorism is white.

Why do the people we bomb always want to protest us?

Being a C student is all that's required to be the leader of the free world...thank God.

Military might is only given to infallible people.

If there's one group of people who have always had it easy it's the Jews.

Because between Iraq and the United States, the United States never acts like a bully.

Hitler believed he was right to occupy europe. George Bush believes he is right to occupy Iraq.

There's no evidence to support evolution, and every scientific test ever done has shown the existence of God.

Those who are wrong are never in power.

Capitalism has been a roaring success, no one suffers or has trouble getting ahead.

Venture capitalists have consistantly showed that they want only the advancment and success of our entire nation, they should have total freedom over playing God with stem cells.

People without health insurance always get top quality medical care from the over-worked free clinic.

Hypocracy is never a problem, everyone always does exactly what they say they will. Especially when it comes to WMDs.

All the problems in society are caused by poor minorities who are lazy, selfish, and have always had it easy.
GMC Military Arms
19-07-2004, 10:35
Sure you're not a 'troll?'
Myrth
19-07-2004, 10:47
Sure you're not a 'troll?'

I can do a Red Arrow every now and then if I feel like it :D
Incertonia
19-07-2004, 10:51
Just out of curiosity, can you call yourself a conservative if you hope to conserve natural resources, conserve energy, and conserve the strides made toward equality in the civil rights and gay rights movements?
Jay W
19-07-2004, 11:05
Maybe we should just conserve our time by not replying to post made by the mentally challenged.
Smeagol-Gollum
19-07-2004, 11:23
Maybe we should just conserve our time by not replying to post made by the mentally challenged.

Not an untypical response...conservatives do generally respond to any form of criticism by attacking the accuser instead of responding to the accusation.

And, I guess calling anybody "mentally challenged" would automatically destroy anything that they had posted. Well, if you were conservative perhaps.
Spoffin
19-07-2004, 12:26
Maybe we should just conserve our time by not replying to post made by the mentally challenged.
I'm finding it tough to decide. Does this represent the casual bigotry of the right towards people who are mentally unwell, or is it better for illustrating the broader point of how they casually tosses around insults at those who disagree with them?
Kanabia
19-07-2004, 13:01
Not an untypical response...conservatives do generally respond to any form of criticism by attacking the accuser instead of responding to the accusation.

And, I guess calling anybody "mentally challenged" would automatically destroy anything that they had posted. Well, if you were conservative perhaps.

Haha, well said!
Sskiss
19-07-2004, 13:06
Sure you're not a 'troll?'

Far worse - a blithering idiot!
Monkeypimp
19-07-2004, 13:06
Myrth > Jay W, regardless....


As a side note, Hamas is my countries newest best friend.
The Most Glorious Hack
19-07-2004, 13:47
I'm finding it tough to decide. Does this represent the casual bigotry of the right towards people who are mentally unwell, or is it better for illustrating the broader point of how they casually tosses around insults at those who disagree with them?No more than the first post represents the bigotry of the left against the right, or their willingness to casually toss around insults for people who have different ideological beliefs.
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
19-07-2004, 14:12
Not an untypical response...conservatives do generally respond to any form of criticism by attacking the accuser instead of responding to the accusation.

And, I guess calling anybody "mentally challenged" would automatically destroy anything that they had posted. Well, if you were conservative perhaps.
So by your own words, that makes you a conservative. Otherwise you would have tried to prove Myrth wasn’t crazy. Instead you just attacked the poster. Yep, by your own words, you’re a right winger.

Holy jumping Jebus on a pogo stick this right wing/left wing/conservative/liberal shit gets really old sometimes.
Vorringia
19-07-2004, 14:50
A person who lost an election should still get the job.

France has never given us supplies, credibility, or good advice.

Having been the son of a president and board member of oil companies makes a person fully aware of the needs of middle America.

Getting investment capital from people who ignore/fund terrorists makes you an unbiased party when the time comes to fight terrorists.

Iraq is a much safer tourist destination now than it was in March 2001.

How dare Saddam kill and oppress his own people...who would ever give this man weapons?

A pile of body bags is a very orderly group.

Its ok that 60% of U.S. Companies pay no income tax. We don't need the money.

Defense spending is so effective that there was more terrorism in 2003 than in 2002. Good thing we didn't waste that money educating children.

People who can't do anything else become presidents.

Why should I have to wait for 72 hours to buy an M-16 just because 32,000 people get shot every year?

Parents who weren't involved enough not to know that their kid is having unprotected sex are really responsible.

People who have no home or money would never turn to crime to feed their children.

Treating people differently because of race, gender, creed, or sexual orientation never leads to hate and violence.

Racial profiling is a great idea, because no one who commits domestic terrorism is white.

Why do the people we bomb always want to protest us?

Being a C student is all that's required to be the leader of the free world...thank God.

Military might is only given to infallible people.

If there's one group of people who have always had it easy it's the Jews.

Because between Iraq and the United States, the United States never acts like a bully.

Hitler believed he was right to occupy europe. George Bush believes he is right to occupy Iraq.

There's no evidence to support evolution, and every scientific test ever done has shown the existence of God.

Those who are wrong are never in power.

Capitalism has been a roaring success, no one suffers or has trouble getting ahead.

Venture capitalists have consistantly showed that they want only the advancment and success of our entire nation, they should have total freedom over playing God with stem cells.

People without health insurance always get top quality medical care from the over-worked free clinic.

Hypocracy is never a problem, everyone always does exactly what they say they will. Especially when it comes to WMDs.

All the problems in society are caused by poor minorities who are lazy, selfish, and have always had it easy.

This isn't conservatism, its plain stupidity. From the top I guess.


Elections? The electoral colleges chooses who wins. The popular vote has always been the traditional factor used to choose the winner, but not always.

France...asked the U.S. to go to the SC and get a resolution before doing anything against Iraq. The U.S. does it and France threatens to veto...Getting pissed on for decades by DeGaulle, Pompidou and Mitterand nowadays by Chirac doesn't do much for good relations. Not that the U.S. has helped, but the French and America have been trading insults for decades.

As opposed to any past President...face it, except for maybe the 18-19th century Presidents, they all come from the elite class (i.e. CEO's, bankers, lawyers). Reagan was the only president I know that started out dirt poor and worked his way up. I'm sure Kerry and Edwards know more about the Middle Class...wait...2 lawyers...and one's also married to the heiress to the Heinz empire. No difference here between either camps.

And Clinton took money from the Sauds just as fast as everyone else. He also took money from members of the Communist Party of China. Again, nobody cares. You get money from where you can, whenever you can, elections are a costly exercise.

Iraq IS a tourist destination for those who want to go. Pick your kevlar up at the terminal...things will get worse before they get better.

Who gave weapons to Saddam? All those russian made AK-47's, T-72 Russian tanks, MiG-29 and Mirage F-1 Russian and French Aircraft, they also have Su-24's locked down in Iran, and over 100 Su-17/20/22, Russian made SAMs SA-7, SA-14, SA-16 and the more outdated SA-2, SA-3 and SA-6. By 1999, he had about 2,200 tanks (mostly outdated), 2,100 artillery (outdated targeting), 120 armed helicopters and between 200-300 aircraft mostly unused due to poor training of the Iraqi Air Force. All this is from the CIA Factbook 2001 and the ISS studies "The Military Balance" 2001-2002. Now let me see...wait a sec...lots of Russian manufactured weapons...And wait there's more! In 1973, Iraq purchased from the Soviet Union 819 Scud-B missiles and 11 TELS from there they built another 8 home grown TELS and another 80 scuds. They got pretty good at making them. Of those very few remained, they used over half their stock against Iran and then the rest were converted into al-Samoud and al-Husseini BM that had better range and better targeting. I see alot of Russian made armament there and even photos taken during the conflict prove this point.

A pile of body bags is a...forget it. Its direspectful to the dead on either side.

Income taxes are raised by the states if I understand that well. Alot of companies are based in Delaware. Also, why do you think teams in states without income tax do so well? Why did Shaq go the Miami Heat? There's no state-income tax there.

Military spending went up since brand new programs were started. Replacement of the old coast guard ships, brand spanking new F-22 Raptors, more APC's and more UAV production. I believe that education also got a boost.

Yes, because running for president and actually doing the job is Oh so Easy! You got people questioning your decision who have ZERO clue what they are talking about and every day shows have a field day locating and widening whatever mistake you might have made. I'm stating this in general, for whatever president was in office.

Canada has per capita more weapons per person. Sweden has a higher murder rate per year/per 1000. 72 hours for M-16? Damn, that's pretty long.

Discrimination is an ugly thing, weird how alot of people support reverse discrimination in the form of university quotas, promotion requirements, minimum hiring requirements all solely based on race, creed and gender. All this affirmative action BS has got to go. Its reverse discrimination of the worst kind and Luther is spinning in his grave.

Racial profiling? What was the race of those who committed the first 2 World Trade Center bombings? And the 9/11 attacks? And then the shoe-bomber in England? Who keeps popping up on TV and stating that they will kill you in the name of Allah (Allah's is getting pissed off that people keep scapegoating him)? Timothy McVeigh, one guy out of how many exactly? Its not pretty but it'll work.

We didn't bomb them hard enough. They can protest now, unlike before.

And academic results somehow demonstrate your capacity to lead? Only the uber brains in universities can lead? Sounds like Elitism...

The Jews have had one of the roughest times on this world. Along with the Gypsies/Roma and the Armenians, getting blamed for everything and kicked around for centuries sucks big time.

Bully or unilateralist; whatever. The strong make the rules. Guess what side its better to be on?

Hitler didn't want to occupy Europe, he wanted to conquer and expand the Deutschland. Later on he decide certain people deserved to die. I don't see Bush setting up internment camps in the U.S. for Arabs, Persians or Turks. Neither do I see whole sale slaughter of people in Iraq. Comparing Bush to Hitler also makes you look retarded and invalidates whatever you may have been trying to say.

Creationism has nothing to do with conservatism. It has everything to do with religion and faith.

Capitalism has less people suffering then before and the scenario is getting better.

Stem cell reasearch is coming whether its banned or legal in the U.S. or anywhere in the West. Other countries will simply pioneer the research like South Korea.

You pay you get better service and faster too. Maybe you'd like the Canadian way? The poor wait and the rich...wait...they go to the U.S....Didn't Bush just force through a massive Medicare Reform Bill pumping in over 550 Billion dollars into healthcare?

WMDs ownership is an exclusive club. What do you think the NPT is supposed to do? Every single Western country supports the NPT since it grants them a monopoly over a powerful weapon...If France is so adamant about disarmament why doesn't it go first then?

All the world's problems are caused by people who are lazy from all creeds, genders, sexual orientations and racial denominations.


Your defining religious conservatism.
Unfree People
19-07-2004, 15:22
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I believe that was entirely the point of Myrth's post.

It's an oversimplification, sure, but it's funny.

Just out of curiosity, can you call yourself a conservative if you hope to conserve natural resources, conserve energy, and conserve the strides made toward equality in the civil rights and gay rights movements?
"conservativism" would rather conserve the lifestyle we have, instead of disrupting it in order to conserve the natural resources it uses.

as for civil rights and liberties, conservatives tend to want to 'conserve' the era before it all happened... or prevent more from happening.

:D
3P
19-07-2004, 15:27
A person who lost an election should still get the job.

France has never given us supplies, credibility, or good advice.

Having been the son of a president and board member of oil companies makes a person fully aware of the needs of middle America.

Getting investment capital from people who ignore/fund terrorists makes you an unbiased party when the time comes to fight terrorists.

Iraq is a much safer tourist destination now than it was in March 2001.

How dare Saddam kill and oppress his own people...who would ever give this man weapons?

A pile of body bags is a very orderly group.

Its ok that 60% of U.S. Companies pay no income tax. We don't need the money.

Defense spending is so effective that there was more terrorism in 2003 than in 2002. Good thing we didn't waste that money educating children.

People who can't do anything else become presidents.

Why should I have to wait for 72 hours to buy an M-16 just because 32,000 people get shot every year?

Parents who weren't involved enough not to know that their kid is having unprotected sex are really responsible.

People who have no home or money would never turn to crime to feed their children.

Treating people differently because of race, gender, creed, or sexual orientation never leads to hate and violence.

Racial profiling is a great idea, because no one who commits domestic terrorism is white.

Why do the people we bomb always want to protest us?

Being a C student is all that's required to be the leader of the free world...thank God.

Military might is only given to infallible people.

If there's one group of people who have always had it easy it's the Jews.

Because between Iraq and the United States, the United States never acts like a bully.

Hitler believed he was right to occupy europe. George Bush believes he is right to occupy Iraq.

There's no evidence to support evolution, and every scientific test ever done has shown the existence of God.

Those who are wrong are never in power.

Capitalism has been a roaring success, no one suffers or has trouble getting ahead.

Venture capitalists have consistantly showed that they want only the advancment and success of our entire nation, they should have total freedom over playing God with stem cells.

People without health insurance always get top quality medical care from the over-worked free clinic.

Hypocracy is never a problem, everyone always does exactly what they say they will. Especially when it comes to WMDs.

All the problems in society are caused by poor minorities who are lazy, selfish, and have always had it easy.
What are you guys freaking out about? This is obviously a joke! I mean, no one is honestly stupid even to think this. I think it's funny, as long as it is a joke, but if not, I think someone need to go get an education
Anti-Toast
19-07-2004, 15:37
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sense of humour by-pass alert !!!
The Katholik Kingdom
19-07-2004, 15:53
I LOVE YOU ALL!

Just to put some perspective on this. It's fair and balanced now. Can't we all just get along?
_Susa_
19-07-2004, 16:09
That is rather trollish... Not that I should be passing judgement myself...
The Mycon
19-07-2004, 17:23
Oh, spoon, he's joking...
I was looking forward to posting "crucify him" every five minutes until the powerful liberal sway of this board inevitably started a pile-on by merit of the sheer eloquence of my rhetoric.
Guess I'll have to actually read other posts and decide for myself whether the OP is a right-wing scumbag or a blessed, infallible liberal like myself.