NationStates Jolt Archive

MKULTRA gave me this idea.

So what sources do you use? Whether it be newspapers, magazines, newstations (specific shows) or internet sources; what are they?

Personnally I use the following:

1. The Economist (British Magazine)
2. The Montreal Gazette (I think its crap, but the editorials are worth the read)
3. Le Monde Diplomatique (French Magazine)
4. Polityka (Polish magazine)
5. Fox News-Sunday Edition
6. ABC News-Saturday Edition with Stephanopoulos (Or whoever you spell it)
7. AM Radio 900-990 in Montreal
8. PBS News-Newshour with Jim Lehrer
9. BBC News-American edition

They are in no particular order.

So what about the rest of you?

1. The Economist (Best news source that I know of)
2. MSNBC
3. CNN
4. Fox
5. Local News (Fox-5 most likely)
6. The News Journal (Local paper)
7. Newsweek
8. www.command-post.org
9. Some blogs
10. NPR

The New American, baby! (Please don't hate me 'cause I'm conservative...)

I read a lot of newpapers online, mostly because television news is really bad and even on 'serious' news channels like the BBC, serious issues are reduced to soundbites.

Best is www.guardian.co.uk

Internet:
MSNBC
CNN
Netscape CNN
their search engines work pretty well, the stories stay up for a long time, and they keep the most headlines listed. CNN could use a spell check and grammar check, though

TV:
NBC
FOX
CNN
CNN Headline News
CNBC
MSNBC
FOX News
those plus CBS and ABC are the ones available. I skip CBS and ABC by habit rather than convenience

Bill O'reilly is all I watch, and I don't even pay any attention to him 80% of the time!

Bill O'reilly is all I watch, and I don't even pay any attention to him 80% of the time!


O'Reilly is a lieing blowhard, if you ask me.

O'Reilly is a lieing blowhard, if you ask me.



I didn't ask you!

1. BBC World on BBC America (ranks far above anything else)

2. SF Chronicle daily email
3. Seattle P-I daily email
4. CNN daily email
5. NYT daily email
6. chats with my mom and dad about politics

Msnbc, Cnn, Foxnews, Us News And World Report, Time Magazine, The Los Angeles Times (well Not Anymore), The News Ticker On My Website.

1. BBC World on BBC America (ranks far above anything else)

2. SF Chronicle daily email
3. Seattle P-I daily email
4. CNN daily email
5. NYT daily email
6. chats with my mom and dad about politics


5 of the worst news sources in the world! You only think you are getting real news, but SURPRISE!!!!!!!

Msnbc, Cnn, Foxnews, Us News And World Report, Time Magazine, The Los Angeles Times (well Not Anymore), The News Ticker On My Website.


The LA Times sucks.

The BBC, of course.

The BBC, of course.


The same BBC that got busted for lying about Iraq? Yeah, Real trustworthy!

5 of the worst news sources in the world! You only think you are getting real news, but SURPRISE!!!!!!!

lol... thank you. I went for 2 years without paying any attention whatsoever except from my parents, so I consider this a step up. I actually have enough time to think about the news.

lol... thank you. I went for 2 years without paying any attention whatsoever except from my parents, so I consider this a step up. I actually have enough time to think about the news.



If you think about it, Your parents are the least likely to lie to you! Trust them and screw everybody else!

from here

http://english.aljazeera.net/

from here

http://english.aljazeera.net/


Good God Almighty! I can't believe you trust them!!!!!!!

Good God Almighty! I can't believe you trust them!!!!!!!


Uh... could you stop attacking everyone's answers?

Uh... could you stop attacking everyone's answers?



I have every right to voice my POV on what people post in here!

Good God Almighty! I can't believe you trust them!!!!!!!
Why not?

Why not?


You're hopeless! Those people are the LEAST trusted News Org in the world!

The same BBC that got busted for lying about Iraq? Yeah, Real trustworthy!

:rollseyes:

You mean the Hutton enquiry? One word; whitewash.

And they didn't get busted for "lying", it was Andrew Gilligan's "sexing up" dossier nonsense.

And in the end, it turned out to be true anyway! Tony Blair himself said a few weeks ago that there was "a chance" WMDs will no be found in Iraq. Hardly the dramatic "45 minutes" capability he reported in the House of Commons.

From here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3054991.stm

24 September 2002, House of Commons
"It [the intelligence service] concludes that Iraq has chemical and biological weapons, that Saddam has continued to produce them, that he has existing and active military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, which could be activated within 45 minutes, including against his own Shia population; and that he is actively trying to acquire nuclear weapons capability..."

14 July, 2004, statement on the Butler report
"We expected, I expected to find actual usable, chemical or biological weapons after we entered Iraq.

"But I have to accept, as the months have passed, it seems increasingly clear that at the time of invasion, Saddam did not have stockpiles of chemical or biological weapons ready to deploy."

Bolding mine.

:rollseyes:

You mean the Hutton enquiry? One word; whitewash.

And they didn't get busted for "lying", it was Andrew Gilligan's "sexing up" dossier nonsense.


It wasn't a whitewash, The Left-Wing just called it that to save the BBC! They lied and got busted, just accept that.

I have every right to voice my POV on what people post in here!

Why don't you give an actual argument then? Say WHY all the news sources suck in your opinion. Otherwise you're just saying something random.

Why don't you give an actual argument then? Say WHY all the news sources suck in your opinion. Otherwise you're just saying something random.



They all do suck, Isn't that obvious?

Those people are the LEAST trusted News Org in the world!
I did not say FOX...did I?

It wasn't a whitewash, The Left-Wing just called it that to save the BBC! They lied and got busted, just accept that.

Read my edit and calm down.

Read my edit and calm down.
No..no...dont make her calm down...It more fun when she is loosing it :D

just pass the pop-corn,,,

I did not say FOX...did I?




You are truly lost! I feel sorry for you, maybe someday you will open your eyes, But i will not hold my breath.

No..no...dont make her calm down...It more fun when she is loosing it :D

just pass the pop-corn,,,



:rolleyes:


Turn off Al Jazeera.

Turn off Al Jazeera.
Give me ONE good reason to do it

Why no response to my edit?

Turn off Al Jazeera.
hmm...okay...give me HALF-a good reason to do it...

Too many to really list here, but here are a few of them.

Foreign:
BBC
UK Guardian

National (US)
MSNBC.com
NY Times
Washington Post
SF Chronicle (more for local news)
LA Times
Sun-Sentinel (South Florida)
Salon.com
NPR
The Newshour with Jim Lehrer
The American Prospect
Slate

Weblogs
Altercation
Daily Kos
Eschaton
Talking Points Memo
Tacitus
Pandagon
Oliver Willis
Tapped (from The American Prospect)
My Due Diligence
World O'Crap

I visit most of these once a day. I don't read them extensively in most cases, unless something jumps out at me, but usually, especially with the weblogs, I wind up going to other news sources because I follow a link.

New is news. I don't look for opinions, just the news.

1. CNN website (homepaged, and I see it more than the TV)
2. MSNBC channel
3. Doonesbury comic....OMGWTFLOLROFLMAOBBQ

If you think about it, Your parents are the least likely to lie to you! Trust them and screw everybody else!
unless theyre also brainwashed

Hmm, haven't seen this one yet. Everyone's been mostly listing off news organizations, but my favorite hasn't been mentioned yet.

Perhaps you've heard of the NationStates forum debates? No better way to see both sides of an argument!

^_^

Hmm, haven't seen this one yet. Everyone's been mostly listing off news organizations, but my favorite hasn't been mentioned yet.

Perhaps you've heard of the NationStates forum debates? No better way to see both sides of an argument!

^_^

lol, the debates on this forum are anything but balanced.

When I look through the responses (excluding the flamewar) I see British news up there often.

When I look through the responses (excluding the flamewar) I see British news up there often.

I trust it a hell of a lot more than the US news. They actually cover the world, as opposed to US with a 5 minute take on the world.

lol, the debates on this forum are anything but balanced.

They may not be entirely balanced, but it gives me a chance to see both sides of a debate. If the debaters (debators?) are both equally learned, you get a fair view and can make your own opinion. If one's got a good background, or one resorts quickly to spam/flames, it also helps form my opinion. Not as well however.

Anyway, I just learn pretty well from this.

And as Vorringia said, I also see the BBC posted as source information the most.

i just make stuff up...

if i happen to want a reference i'll look it up afterwards. there is supporting documentation for almost any position on the web, so i figure usually someone else as already made up what i just did, and quite possibly gone to the effort of attempting to prove it through the creation of lovely cut and pastable documents.

i just make stuff up...

if i happen to want a reference i'll look it up afterwards. there is supporting documentation for almost any position on the web, so i figure usually someone else as already made up what i just did, and quite possibly gone to the effort of attempting to prove it through the creation of lovely cut and pastable documents.


So do you read the news to yourself? Everything you made up that day?

somethingawful.com... um ya.... eheh

For the most part, I make things up as I go along. :)

bbc
australian abc

It wasn't a whitewash, The Left-Wing just called it that to save the BBC! They lied and got busted, just accept that.

It was a whitewash by a notorious whitewasher (cf. Widgery tribunal, Pinochet).

Vas.

Most of my news comes from The Australian, but also some from channels 7, 9 and 10. Very original names, aren't they?

Most of my news comes from The Australian, but also some from channels 7, 9 and 10. Very original names, aren't they?

they are all crap, 7 is the worst, the abc is the least biased, you may not agree but watch it and you see there are no opinions and you get both sides

Hmm... actually something interesting to think about...

1) The Chicago Tribune
2) WGN 720 AM
3) WLS 890 AM
4) WBBM 780 AM
5) Various internet sites when I'm curious (FOX, google, CNN, whatever I think of when I'm looking).
6) On the rare occation that I actually use my TV for something other than a DVD, I'll watch CNN or FOXNews.

And, in reality, 1 and 2 are an "every day" type of thing. 3 is "every couple days", and four on down is "maybe once a month, if that."

BBC News.
The Guardian Newspaper.

Real news :)

Occasionally I'll glance at Fox News' website, for the comedy value. It's the Republican Party's equivalent of Pravda :rolleyes:

Only from the most consistently reliable news source in the world.

Print Sources:
The Daily Yomiuri - the English edition of Japan's largest daily newspaper, it includes weekly supliments of the LA Times, Washington Post, and Chicago Tribune

The International Herald Tribune/Asahi Shimbun - The IHT is the NYT's international publication

The Economist

Internet Sources
Daily quick checks:
http://www.drudgereport.com/ - good and fast, but often needs to be double checked
http://news.myway.com/index.html

Since I live in Japan:
http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/
http://www.japantoday.com/

Since I'm interested in military affairs
http://strategypage.com/ - often the best source
http://globalsecurity.org/ - less news, but still good

Checked less often:
http://www.debka.com/index.php
http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.aljazeera.com/fn689.asp

Broadcast sources:
CNNj (local CNN) daily
NHK news in English and BBC when I can

What I watch/Listen/Read

Watch:
FoxNews
CNBC
MSNBC

Listen:
Pittsburgh Talk Radio 104.7

Read:
National Review
Pittsburgh Tribune Review
http://www.washingtonpost.com
http://www.triblive.com
http://www.foxnews.com
http://www.reuters.com
http://www.nationalreview.com

The Economist! That is a terrible newsource. It has such a far right bias. Then again, so does most news. I get all my info from the internet, sci-fi, and anime.

Cbc

The Economist! That is a terrible newsource. It has such a far right bias. Then again, so does most news. I get all my info from the internet, sci-fi, and anime.


Bullshit, it has a true liberal bias. Yes, they are pro-free trade, but they admit that, and if you can't realize that and take it into account, don't read The Economist. Besides, they are very left-leaning as far as social/civil rights issues go (I.E. gay marriage)

5 of the worst news sources in the world! You only think you are getting real news, but SURPRISE!!!!!!!
Somehow I doubt he asked you.


Payback is fair game Bitch.

Bullshit, it has a true liberal bias. Yes, they are pro-free trade, but they admit that, and if you can't realize that and take it into account, don't read The Economist. Besides, they are very left-leaning as far as social/civil rights issues go (I.E. gay marriage)

Gay marriage is pointless if you have to sell your freedom to the boss to survive.

Gay marriage is pointless if you have to sell your freedom to the boss to survive.


Yeah...I'm not going to argue. They are a liberal magazine-free trade (right), and on the left for everything else.

Gay marriage is pointless if you have to sell your freedom to the boss to survive.
Ever heard the term "Self-Employed?" many members of the (sort of) free market fall into this category.

My news sources.

Newspapers:

The Guardian. (when in Manchester)
The Independent (when in Liverpool, or on thursdays)
The Times (rarely)
The Telegraph (used to be frequently, but now rarely)

Magazines:

The Economist (desperately trying to understand money at the moment)
Private Eye (don't knock it, think of some of the stuff they have uncovered)

TV/Internet:

BBC (fairly frequently)
Channel 4 News (more then BBC)
news.bbc.co.uk
CNN/FOX, I occasionally flick onto. Fox mainly for entertainment reasons. CNN if I feel too happy.

Ever heard the term "Self-Employed?" many members of the (sort of) free market fall into this category.

It isn't an option for everyone, otherwise why would anyone choose unemployment or a boring job over self-employment?

It isn't an option for everyone, otherwise why would anyone choose unemployment or a boring job over self-employment?
For the same reason that everyone doesn't become an athlete. It requires a lot of skill, confidence and talent. Not everyone is a natural salesman for example.

Plus not all jobs are boring.

I get my news from:
1 - Toronto Star
2 - CBC News
3 - BBC News
4 - CityPulse

www.bbc.co.uk - There.

The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. That is some hard hitting journalism right there.

The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. That is some hard hitting journalism right there.
Finally, though it took five pages, someone's mentioned TDS. That's my main source of TV news as well.

On the Interweb, I also read
Slashdot The Register New York Times Ananova K5, occasionally The Christian Science Monitor * Whatever else I currently have an RSS feed from scrolling along the bottom of my monitor (I've got Max's site in there at the moment, and a few other things that may be of interest).

* I realise CS is the Grape Nuts of religions, but their newspaper occasionally has some good articles.