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The 7 Greatest Evils Of Our Time (Revised List)

Whittier
17-07-2004, 08:33
1. Religious Fanaticism
2. Human Trafficking
3. Adultery
4. Abortion
5. Racism
6. Terrorism
7. Rape
Stirner
17-07-2004, 08:43
I'm going to have to say that murder deserves to be on the list more than adultery. Also, "date rape"?? Wouldn't simple "rape" be more suitable for the list? "Human Trafficking"? It isn't the buying and selling of people, it's the owning. So replace Human Trafficking with Slavery. Unless you're talking about "illegal immigration", in which case I'll simply have to disagree that it is among the "7 Greatest Evils of Our Time".

What a silly list.
Our Earth
17-07-2004, 08:43
What is "our time?" How can a list be considered a comprehensive representation of modern evils when it includes adultery but not genocide?
Whittier
17-07-2004, 08:53
What is "our time?" How can a list be considered a comprehensive representation of modern evils when it includes adultery but not genocide?
Genocide=terrorism
Whittier
17-07-2004, 08:56
I'm going to have to say that murder deserves to be on the list more than adultery. Also, "date rape"?? Wouldn't simple "rape" be more suitable for the list? "Human Trafficking"? It isn't the buying and selling of people, it's the owning. So replace Human Trafficking with Slavery. Unless you're talking about "illegal immigration", in which case I'll simply have to disagree that it is among the "7 Greatest Evils of Our Time".

What a silly list.I could put slavery in paranthesis, but it is called human trafficking now.
It would be better to just put rape, I just wanted to make sure it was in the top 7.
Murder could go on there, but not just any type. It would have to be the worst kind.
Insane Troll
17-07-2004, 08:57
Genocide=terrorism

Not quite.

Genocide is the systematic slaughter based on race, nationality, etc.

Terrorism is the use of violence to try and effect a society or government.
Our Earth
17-07-2004, 08:58
Genocide=terrorism

Terrorism - the unlawful use or threat of violence esp. against the state or the public as a politically motivated means of attack or coercion

Genocide - The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.

I don't really see how those are the same. Terrorism implies an intent to create terror while genocide implies an intent to exterminate, they are not the same.
Whittier
17-07-2004, 08:59
Not quite.

Genocide is the systematic slaughter based on race, nationality, etc.

Terrorism is the use of violence to try and effect a society or government.
or wipe out a group of people based on ideology, religion or race.
Stirner
17-07-2004, 08:59
Genocide=terrorism
LOL

Religious Fanaticism = terrorism.
Human Trafficking = terrorism.
Adultery = terrorism.
Abortion = terrorism.
Racism = terrorism.
Date Rape = terrorism.

I guess there is only one Great evil of our time. Terrorism. :P
Whittier
17-07-2004, 09:00
Terrorism - the unlawful use or threat of violence esp. against the state or the public as a politically motivated means of attack or coercion

Genocide - The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.

I don't really see how those are the same. Terrorism implies an intent to create terror while genocide implies an intent to exterminate, they are not the same.
Genocide will be added. Name what nations where it is currently happening. Besides Israel/Palestine.
Insane Troll
17-07-2004, 09:01
Genocide will be added. Name what nations where it is currently happening. Besides Israel/Palestine.


It was happening in Rwanda for a while there, I'm not sure if it still is or not.
Whittier
17-07-2004, 09:01
LOL

Religious Fanaticism = terrorism.
Human Trafficking = terrorism.
Adultery = terrorism.
Abortion = terrorism.
Racism = terrorism.
Date Rape = terrorism.

I guess there is only one Great evil of our time. Terrorism. :P
I was noticiing that rape is indeed a form of terrorism so I would agree with you there.
Whittier
17-07-2004, 09:01
It was happening in Rwanda for a while there, I'm not sure if it still is or not.
I am looking for places where it is happening right now.
Whittier
17-07-2004, 09:03
Zimbabwe, their president is engaged in genocide based on people's skin color.
And I always wanted the US to invade Zimababwe and oust that genocidal madman, Mugabwe.
Our Earth
17-07-2004, 09:04
Genocide will be added. Name what nations where it is currently happening. Besides Israel/Palestine.

You'd be hard pressed to argue genocide in Irsael, but what this really comes back to a question of what is our time? There was genocide in the Balkans less than a decade ago. There have been acts of genocide in Africa and, going back further in the modern age there was the Holocaust of WWII, along with others. Looking at your list, however, I don't think you really need a specific example.
Doomduckistan
17-07-2004, 09:05
I am looking for places where it is happening right now.
Why does it have to be happening Right Now? The fact that it happened and with all likelihood will happen again is saddening.

I find adultery distasteful and divorce overused, but I don't think they're in the same category as the other 7, IMO.

Much of Genocide fits under Racism, Politics, and Religion, so you've got 1/3rd covered on it now.
Whittier
17-07-2004, 09:09
Our time= 1973 to 2053.
Stirner
17-07-2004, 10:28
I'd toss genocide and replace it with murder, which covers all the -cide words.
Sdaeriji
17-07-2004, 14:48
Isn't it a bit much to put adultery and slavery on a similar level of evil? I mean, adultery is bad, but it certainly isn't as "evil" as slavery, or some of those others.
DHomme
17-07-2004, 14:54
Chechnya
Bosnia
Iraq
Rwanda

All sites of recent/ongoing ethnic cleansing and genocide
Bodies Without Organs
17-07-2004, 16:09
1. Religious Fanaticism
2. Human Trafficking
3. Adultery
4. Abortion
5. Racism
6. Terrorism
7. Date Rape


Isn't number 7 a subset of 3?
Whittier
17-07-2004, 19:58
Another great evil=
Just standing by and cheering while someone is being raped or murder, or going to jump off a bridge.
That is truely a great evil, and those participate in such mobs are themselves evil.
Also if you see it happening or know its happening but do nothing, on the excuse its "none of your business".
When people are being raped, violently assaulted, or murdered, it is everyone's business.
And if you avoid just cause you don't like the bother of helping someone else, then that makes you evil.
Communist Mississippi
17-07-2004, 20:05
Terrorism is the use of force and violence to gain attention to a cause or to further the cause or political goals, racial goals, religious goals, or economical goals.

Since "Rape" is not a cause, it cannot be classed as terrorism.

Also I think the greatest evils are

1) New World Order
2) United Nations
3) Free Masons
4) Skull and Bones
5) Bohemian Grove
6) Bilderberger
7) Trilateralist
Communist Mississippi
17-07-2004, 20:07
1. Religious Fanaticism
2. Human Trafficking
3. Adultery
4. Abortion
5. Racism
6. Terrorism
7. Date Rape


#1 it's people's right to be as fanatical as they want.

#5 it's people's right to be racist or non-racist, it's up to them.

The others are pretty much wrong and some are illegal (2,6,7, some countries 4, some countries 5 is illegal)
Whittier
17-07-2004, 21:11
#1 it's people's right to be as fanatical as they want.

#5 it's people's right to be racist or non-racist, it's up to them.

The others are pretty much wrong and some are illegal (2,6,7, some countries 4, some countries 5 is illegal)
1. Not if it is used to justify extermination or persecution of whole groups.

2. No one has the right to be racist. In most of the world, racism is illegal. Except in rogue states.
Communist Mississippi
17-07-2004, 21:13
2. No one has the right to be racist. In most of the world, racism is illegal. Except in rogue states.


Then the USA is a rogue state.

The only nations where "Anti-Racial Hate Speech" laws are in place are nations that also have few freedoms in regards to guns and other things.
DHomme
17-07-2004, 21:18
Then the USA is a rogue state.

The only nations where "Anti-Racial Hate Speech" laws are in place are nations that also have few freedoms in regards to guns and other things.

Yeah, cos the more guns you got, the safer you are!
Communist Mississippi
17-07-2004, 21:21
Yeah, cos the more guns you got, the safer you are!

If the black racists and the white racists all have guns, it doesn't matter because both sides will be too nervous to make the first move. :)
DHomme
17-07-2004, 21:23
If the black racists and the white racists all have guns, it doesn't matter because both sides will be too nervous to make the first move. :)

Nope, it means theyll each get more and more firepower and then when one side thinks it has the most or is being threatened, it'll attack the other
Spoffin
18-07-2004, 01:38
1. Religious Fanaticism
2. Human Trafficking
3. Adultery
4. Abortion
5. Racism
6. Terrorism
7. Date Rape
This is the weirdest list I've ever heard. Its not just that some obvious ones are left off, its that theres some items that seem to suggest other ones. Abortion, but not infanticide (unarguably worse I feel, whether you're pro choice or pro life). Date rape, excluding all other forms of rape? And then of course there are ones that should be on the list, like murder, war, ethnic cleansing... How did adultery get the number 3 spot over these?
Roach-Busters
18-07-2004, 01:58
1.Communism, fascism, and every other brand of totalitarianism
2.Internationalism
3.Incest, rape, etc.
4.Abortion
5.Terrorism
6.Crime of every type
7.Michael Jackson
Spoffin
18-07-2004, 02:02
1.Communism, fascism, and every other brand of totalitarianism
2.Internationalism
3.Incest, rape, etc.
4.Abortion
5.Terrorism
6.Crime of every type
7.Michael Jackson
At least this one isn't serious.