Incitement to Religious Hatred
The Pyrenees
16-07-2004, 12:11
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3871867.stm
This both angers and scares me. Why are religious people allowed to discriminate on grounds of sexuality? It's hardly like they are all lovey dovey nice people, is it?
And no belief should have law protecting it. If it can't stand up for itself in intelligent debate, it's probably a crappy belief to have.
I also think that this law will be used to persecute further those with totally relevant and real greivances against all the crappy things religion foists upon us. It's going to be taken out of context.
God, I hate how I've totally lost all powers of intelligent speech. I'm sure I used to be verbose.
New Fuglies
16-07-2004, 12:28
It's all politics so get those recruiting boots on.
The Pyrenees
16-07-2004, 12:57
It's all politics so get those recruiting boots on.
Why can't I get a law that stops people criticising me? For a start, it would free up a lot of bandwidth.
New Fuglies
16-07-2004, 13:08
Crticizing? That was an order, soldier!
Socialist Thought
16-07-2004, 13:13
As I said in the BNP thread, Blunkett is a fascist....
Reactivists
16-07-2004, 13:39
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3871867.stm
This both angers and scares me. Why are religious people allowed to discriminate on grounds of sexuality? It's hardly like they are all lovey dovey nice people, is it?
And no belief should have law protecting it. If it can't stand up for itself in intelligent debate, it's probably a crappy belief to have.
I also think that this law will be used to persecute further those with totally relevant and real greivances against all the crappy things religion foists upon us. It's going to be taken out of context.
God, I hate how I've totally lost all powers of intelligent speech. I'm sure I used to be verbose.
Pyrenees, I checked out the article you linked to, and I saw no mention of religious people being allowed to discriminate on grounds of sexuality. Were you making a point unrelated to the article?
BTW, I agree that all beliefs should have to stand up for themselves in debate, and the proposed law could be misused in all kinds of ways to limit free expression and prevent legitimate disagreement.
Dimmimar
16-07-2004, 14:05
Blunketts's some bumbling fool that should be executed...
The Pyrenees
20-07-2004, 21:48
Pyrenees, I checked out the article you linked to, and I saw no mention of religious people being allowed to discriminate on grounds of sexuality. Were you making a point unrelated to the article?
BTW, I agree that all beliefs should have to stand up for themselves in debate, and the proposed law could be misused in all kinds of ways to limit free expression and prevent legitimate disagreement.
It's not in that article, it's just a law in Britain. Yeah, it's illegal to discriminate on grounds of sexuality, unless you're a religious organisation. I've got no problem with this, as long as
a) Religious organisations lose tax exemption,
b) All religious organisations are totally seperated from the state
c) No religious organisation recieves anything in the way of funding or favouritism from the state.
d) The Queen ceases to be Head of any religion that discriminates on grounds of sexuality.
If a organisation wants to be homophobic, it should be allowed to. It's called free speech, and I'm all for it. But it should never be sanctioned or condoned by the state. The least the state should do is lead by example.