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Last night BBC 1 broadcast an uncover report on the British National Party, in which they uncovered admissions of racial violence, conspiracy to commit criminal damage and incitement to racial hatred.


The evidence he collected includes one BNP member, Steve Barkham, confessing to a violent assault on an Asian man, and a prospective election candidate admitting to a campaign of pushing dog excrement through the front door of an Asian takeaway.

Another man is seen saying that he wants to kill Asians and attack mosques. Activists are filmed plotting to fire bomb a van being used by to distribute anti-BNP literature.

British National Party leader Nick Griffin was unrepentant after being filmed by the BBC attacking Islam as a "vicious wicked faith".
In an interview, he refused to say sorry and said the "Islamification" of the West had partly happened by rape.


I'm ashamed to come from the same country as these people. I have written a private study on the history of the BNP (and British Fascism since WWII in general) and thought people might like to know other things, such as COmbat 18 originating as BNP security, Nick Griffin being a former high-ranking member of the National Front and his relations with Colonel Gadaffi, etc.

However, I think Griffin raises valid points about the new laws about 'Incitement to religious hatred'. If this law is passed it will be the biggest block to free speech our country has seen for centuries. I might also point out that religons aren't averse to inciting a little hatred themselves. Why should one particular form of belief (one without evidence, no less) be protected from criticism? I hate the way this government panders to the religious, making discrimination because of religion a henious crime but discrimination by religion protected under law? It's a disgrace. The End.

Which is a sad thing to say as i do love this place but to see people abusing asians like that is horrible and vile. Did you see that they want to ban islam. it disgusts me. banning Islam will never happen. Kinda stupid even suggesting it

Which is a sad thing to say as i do love this place but to see people abusing asians like that is horrible and vile. Did you see that they want to ban islam. it disgusts me. banning Islam will never happen. Kinda stupid even suggesting it

They didn't say they wanted to ban Islam. As I heard it, they talked about 'Islamic Dragons' and no shining knights, or some patriotic metaphor. The thing is, some of them (I'm thinking Grffin and Collett) just aren't stupid. As Eddie Izzard said, we shouldn't be scared of dickheads. We should be scared of organised dickheads. I think if we don't stop them, the BNP could become organised dickheads.

You would have noticed in the program 'The Secret Agent' that the BNP are constantly thinking the reds are after them and beating them up and such. Of course, you never see them.
Real threat? I call it rampant paranoia.

And yes, we all know that David Blunkett is a fascist.

You would have noticed in the program 'The Secret Agent' that the BNP are constantly thinking the reds are after them and beating them up and such. Of course, you never see them.
Real threat? I call it rampant paranoia.

And yes, we all know that David Blunkett is a fascist.


And when you do see 'the reds' (The Communist Threat! RARRRR!) they all tend to be little liberal democrat men with round glasses, slightly balding and wearing really bad ties. I'm still a bit old school, I don't really see a problem with a little bit of street fighting against the fascists. It's not as good as solid political action, but a little bit of fighting puts of a few more people from joining the BNP.I don't have a problem with legitimate political parties, however bizarre or extreme their opinions. BUt lets make no bones about it- the BNP are a gang of violent hooligans who pick on the weak, porr, defenceless people of our country. If stopping them beating up an asian pensioner means using fists, then that's what needs to be done. I'd hope any compassionate, proud British man or woman would join in the kicking, too :P.

Watching that programme proved to me once and for all that at present we have nothing to fear in terms of the BNP coming to power. Some of those BNP council candidates were a joke, they didn't appear to have any policies whatsoever, other than hurting muslims (which I wouldn't really call a policy anyway).
To me the BNP appeared as a group of children: Trying to keep up this macho image and showing off about their various violent exploits to their fellow peers. They're not a political party, just a rabble of football hooligans and immature thugs dressed in suits.
I also noticed that when Nick Griffin denounced Michael Howard's criticism of the BNP he went off on a tangent about his parent's origins instead of actually confronting what Mr. Howard said. To me that shows that he was unable to offer any sort of counter to Michael Howards comments.

The thing is, some of them (I'm thinking Grffin and Collett) just aren't stupid. As Eddie Izzard said, we shouldn't be scared of dickheads. We should be scared of organised dickheads. I think if we don't stop them, the BNP could become organised dickheads.Another major figure (interestingly not shown on the program) is Tony Lecomber, one of the main architects behind the BNPs move towards a political direction. I agree though, personally, I think the BNP were a lot less of a threat when Tyndall ran them.

And when you do see 'the reds' (The Communist Threat! RARRRR!) they all tend to be little liberal democrat men with round glasses, slightly balding and wearing really bad ties. I'm still a bit old school, I don't really see a problem with a little bit of street fighting against the fascists. It's not as good as solid political action, but a little bit of fighting puts of a few more people from joining the BNP.Although to be fair, that's the anti-fascists who don't mind getting on camera. I was a member of Anti Fascist Action for 12 years and we avoided it like the plague. ;) I think the problem's more a tactical one- because the BNP have moved away from street confrontations the opportunitys generally just don't arise like they used to. As you said, the fight is largely a political one now. (Though there has recently been a 'unity meeting' between Tyndall, Morrison and various other fascists, which may make it more relevant again).

i have a friend who still thinks the BNP aren't racist. what a wanker.

i take comfort in the dumbness of the BNP "Let's just get a big poster saying 'no pakkis'. They'll never know it was us".

Although to be fair, that's the anti-fascists who don't mind getting on camera. I was a member of Anti Fascist Action for 12 years and we avoided it like the plague. ;) I think the problem's more a tactical one- because the BNP have moved away from street confrontations the opportunitys generally just don't arise like they used to. As you said, the fight is largely a political one now. (Though there has recently been a 'unity meeting' between Tyndall, Morrison and various other fascists, which may make it more relevant again).

Also, thankfully, the SWP has given up it's stranglehold on the ANL and allowed a more broadbased coalition - UNITE! - to start working. Of course, it remains to be seen whether they'll try to take over, but, for the moment, it means there's quite a lot of union bods ready to take to the streets. I was at the BNP picket of the National Union of Journalists' HQ, it was funny - "There's many, many more of us than you," we chanted.

Vas.

For any Americans interested, here's (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight) the Newsnight interview with their chairman.

Yes, they are a bunch of racist thugs, but this is a democracy - it's up to the public whether to vote for them or not.

If they handle this right, it wont even scare off many potential supporters.

Ah yes... more fascists parties... Why not just duplicate the bloody New Conservatives there and be done with it!

Yes, they are a bunch of racist thugs, but this is a democracy - it's up to the public whether to vote for them or not.
True, but why is the BNP allowed to exist? It makes you wonder wether these people have any knowledge of the world and what kind of society they actually grew up in. Besides, most people know a days come from mixed cultures like many of the members in the BNP are likely to be, I'm sure.

The worst thing is that i knew all the places mentioned, I live only 20 miles from Keighly and i never new this.

For any Americans interested, here's (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight) the Newsnight interview with their chairman.

Yes, they are a bunch of racist thugs, but this is a democracy - it's up to the public whether to vote for them or not.

I wished they used Paxman to interview Griffin, he would have wiped the floor with the BNP leader.
It's also up to the public to just vote. As when voter apathy rises, the extremist parties tend to get a larger percent of the vote.

Mongoose Spatula not replied? Or is he not on NationStates anymore?

I'll only ever accept the law against incitement to religious hatred when they also make it a law that immigrant cultures and religions can't incite hatred and dissidence against English culture (which includes all facets of integrated culture, not just that which existed before 1900 which is what some people see 'English' culture as).

The point is they are fear mongers. Preying upon insecurites over other races.
People get along all well and good till someone brings that truce into question.
All it takes is a nigling feeling in the back of your mind. The rhetoric that you are feed is self propogating. It works on everyone, its just that mose people repress it.

I think Mongoose spatula went ages ago. And brutanion that law wouldnt quite be fair if it elevated english culture to a higher status than the others. Otherwise they havnt made laws about it yet because everyone is more or less getting along well, whn theres big problems they will make laws. But it wont help then because you cant suppress thought. Only actions. Just because someone speaks a different language on the bus to their friends and only uses english when they have to doent mean they are upto no good.

Mongoose Spatula not replied? Or is he not on NationStates anymore?

Sadly our resident BNP advocate is no longer with us ;)

Unfortunately there are always a few idiots who seem to equate the general thuggery of the BNP with sticking up for communities and British culture rather than as the divisive influence that it really is. I'm not ready to give up on multi culturalism just yet - I like my curries and my reggae too much for that :)

Do you know what scares me more than the idea of the BNP taking power? The fact that collet has been in MY house and was in MY school.
I feel so.... dirty *shudder*

The point is they are fear mongers. Preying upon insecurites over other races.
People get along all well and good till someone brings that truce into question.
All it takes is a nigling feeling in the back of your mind. The rhetoric that you are feed is self propogating. It works on everyone, its just that mose people repress it.

I think Mongoose spatula went ages ago. And brutanion that law wouldnt quite be fair if it elevated english culture to a higher status than the others. Otherwise they havnt made laws about it yet because everyone is more or less getting along well, whn theres big problems they will make laws. But it wont help then because you cant suppress thought. Only actions. Just because someone speaks a different language on the bus to their friends and only uses english when they have to doent mean they are upto no good.

My philosophy is one of Uniculturalism, but not fascism.
Basically, multiculturalism is divisive as it creates tensions. Think of the problems in Ilford between different immigrant cultures, then with the immigrant cultures and the established one. What is needed is a single culture based on one language and a concept of toleration of different beliefs and incorporating all manner of practices.
Think of how you now see major 'foreign' businesses run for all, such as Indian restaurants. England was some way towards such a dream when the government started on a divisive crusade to make immigrant cultures feel seperate. Think of the recent orders for police to take down your 'ethinic' origin. Even if you are born in England and think of yourself as English, if you have brown skin then you are 'Indian' or 'Pakistani'. I know someone in that situation who finds himself not Indian and yet told by his parents and the government that he is.
Yes, I'd say elevate English culture to a level where everyone wants to be part of it. However, don't make it Victorian English but a true Unicultural culture that everyone would want to be part of anyway as it benefits them and their way of life.

Can you be more specific. Did your Mum have him round or did he lurk outside your bedroom window?

No, you've only got to look at people like Peter Hitchens writing for the Daily Mail, Littlejohn writing in the Sun, even people like Polly Toynbee writing in the Observer; there is an element of British society - that are intellectuals and so on, there's an understanding that there's a fundamental clash coming between Islam and the West.
(Bold is mine.)

This needed reiteration, if only due to how amusing it is.

i have a friend who still thinks the BNP aren't racist. what a wanker.

i take comfort in the dumbness of the BNP "Let's just get a big poster saying 'no pakkis'. They'll never know it was us".

ok i kept out of this but that is out of order.
While i didnt see the program last night i have seen no evidence before now that the BNP itself is racist
are some members racist? Yes
in a PC world are they considered racist? Yes
Does this mean they are racist? No
Some of what the BNP says is very relevant and should be taken on board, it's people with closed minds that decide they are racist and so should be ignored.

---> Not a member of the BNP (my version of the not a mod sign)

They're not racist? You really should've seen the show last night.

well can someone maybe tell me where i can get an UNEDITIED transcript of what was said so i can see what was said?

I know someone who kicked Nick Griffin up the arse!

Isn't it funny how you all get up on your high horses when the BNP says anything controversial but where were you when certain Muslim Clerics were banging on about Jihads and suicide bombers to blow the hell out of our country and it's people. Oh that's right you were all saying leave them alone and they will go away, wel they won't go away. The same as the BNP won't go away. We as a sosciety will never get rid of these people they are what humans are all about. In all of my years on this planet i can honestly say that all and every single person on this planet is prejudiced. Racially, sexually, religiously we are all guilty of being prejudiced about something.

Isn't it funny how you all get up on your high horses when the BNP says anything controversial but where were you when certain Muslim Clerics were banging on about Jihads and suicide bombers to blow the hell out of our country and it's people.

Me? I was arguing that it was about time the UK government did something about people advocating bloody terrorism against ourselves/our allies and outright advocating and plotting violent, revolutionary and illegal acts.

Oh that's right you were all saying leave them alone and they will go away, wel they won't go away.

I think they can only become more marginalised, although I also think it's important to listen to moderate Muslims such as the MCB who are trying desperately to get Labour to do something about the extremist nutjobs.

The same as the BNP won't go away. We as a sosciety will never get rid of these people they are what humans are all about. In all of my years on this planet i can honestly say that all and every single person on this planet is prejudiced. Racially, sexually, religiously we are all guilty of being prejudiced about something.

I'd argue that racial prejudice to some extent is fine. Your beliefs about that person concern the legitimacy and morality of their ideas and beliefs, and to me that's one of the few proper places from which to judge someone. Generalising about beliefs, for example thinking all Muslims or Christians are bloodthirsty or good or whatever, is a problem, I'd argue.

its interesting how the bbc decided it was a speech advocating racial violence or something like that and they deicded to show it. What do they think it will do? It will cause more attacks against people and cause even more of the violence they are supposidly trying to stop.

You would have noticed in the program 'The Secret Agent' that the BNP are constantly thinking the reds are after them and beating them up and such. Of course, you never see them.
Real threat? I call it rampant paranoia.

And yes, we all know that David Blunkett is a fascist.

I'm not sure you have any clue, do you? You're just jumping in to save your comrades. There wasn't much sign of them on the BBC report (except the ANL protesters) but that doesn't mean the threat to the BNP doesn't exist. In fact, if Nick Griffin doesn't lie as much as we expect him to then the informer within the BNP was a red himself.


Anyway, I'm disgusted but also mildly amused at your random rantings and insult throwing at the BNP. When the rest of society is such a shambles and nobody can work out or face (let alone solve) the real problem it's really no surprise at all that extremist "coming clean" parties are gaining more and more support each time an election comes round.

Can you be more specific. Did your Mum have him round or did he lurk outside your bedroom window?

He was a friend of a friend of my brother. Very quite guy, didn't say alot. He once got beaten up so bad at my school by a bunch of asians the rozzers were called in :)

He was a friend of a friend of my brother. Very quite guy, didn't say alot. He once got beaten up so bad at my school by a bunch of asians the rozzers were called in :)

And you smile about something that undoubtedly made him turn to a party like the BNP? You're either thick or sick, there's no two ways about it.

Anyway, I'm disgusted but also mildly amused at your random rantings and insult throwing at the BNP. When the rest of society is such a shambles and nobody can work out or face (let alone solve) the real problem it's really no surprise at all that extremist "coming clean" parties are gaining more and more support each time an election comes round.

Sure, it's no surprise but I am slightly confused by the tone of your response. Are you suggesting that a party like the BNP could possibly solve the problems faced by modern British society? Could you in any way be suggesting that a party that is so abhored even by the majority of the casually racist middle Britain could possibly represent "British culture"? The BNP is a symptom of the disease, it is definitely not part of the cure.

And you smile about something that undoubtedly made him turn to a party like the BNP? You're either thick or sick, there's no two ways about it.

I'm neither. He was racist before he was beaten up, you muppet. I just like the fact that he had the sh** kicked out of him at my school.

My review of 'the Secret Agent' has two major points that I think are worth considering.
Firstly, the documentary did not really show any further insights into the nature and ideals of the BNP. We as a nation already know that they are a party that promotes racial hatred and have origins in Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists. It merely stated the obvious.
Secondly, while the documentary provided no further insights into the politics and nature of the BNP, I do feel it was a necessary reminder to the voters. The BNP and their irrational politics have enjoyed a surge of support recently and I believe and hope that this documentary helped people to understand more clearly. Some voters of the party seem to vote without fully comprehending what they are actually voting for.

Sure, it's no surprise but I am slightly confused by the tone of your response. Are you suggesting that a party like the BNP could possibly solve the problems faced by modern British society? Could you in any way be suggesting that a party that is so abhored even by the majority of the casually racist middle Britain could possibly represent "British culture"? The BNP is a symptom of the disease, it is definitely not part of the cure.
i dont think thats what is being suggested, its more along the lines that the BNP seems to offer the answers. It seems to say more that since the major parties cant/wont solve the problems people are more willing to support extreme parties as they say they will solve the problems.

ok i kept out of this but that is out of order.
While i didnt see the program last night i have seen no evidence before now that the BNP itself is racist
are some members racist? Yes
in a PC world are they considered racist? Yes
Does this mean they are racist? No
Some of what the BNP says is very relevant and should be taken on board, it's people with closed minds that decide they are racist and so should be ignored.

---> Not a member of the BNP (my version of the not a mod sign)

What matters is the leadership is racist and if were elected would enact racist policies. If you dont like it your supposed to form your own. The BNP isnt mainstream enough to many powerful have factions.

I wished they used Paxman to interview Griffin, he would have wiped the floor with the BNP leader.They already have done. Griffin wiped the floor with him. Paxman hadn't done his research properly and resorted to arrogant macho posteuring.

My personal view is that yet another "BNP are racist, pope is Catholic and bears shit in the woods" documentry was entirely pointless. All it did was get Griffin news interviews and lots of coverage. And I don't believe it'll actually affect the BNP's votes in the slightest. The battle is for the hearts and minds of the BNPs target voters, and this documentry did nothing to advance that. It's no suprise that Searchlight were involved.

I don't know why people need to be told these things - isn't it plainly obvious what they really are?!

My personal view is that yet another "BNP are racist, pope is Catholic and bears shit in the woods" documentry was entirely pointless. All it did was get Griffin news interviews and lots of coverage. And I don't believe it'll actually affect the BNP's votes in the slightest. The battle is for the hearts and minds of the BNPs target voters, and this documentry did nothing to advance that. It's no suprise that Searchlight were involved.

Quite right, if the Powers That Be seriously want to put the BNP out of business then why don't they get them in for a proper debate rather than 'infiltrate' them, get their poor, white, working class members drunk, ask them what they think about ethnic minorities and film it as official BNP position.

Whether or not they are racist or not depends on the definition you follow, but they are not politically correct, that is for sure. The following is a quote from their website, on race, ethnicity, nationality etc. This was written quite a while ago by their Griffin. It is classic BNP stuff, so is the best sort of stuff to use to decide whether they are racist or, as they like to put it 'racially realist'.

....the BNP’s racial realist position [is] very different from the crude racism of grouplets like the National Front, from the cowardly confusion of the Conservative leadership, and from the cynical racist electoral opportunism of New Labour.

Reality of race

Mankind is divided into races, and those races, while sharing many common features of humanity, are innately different in many ways beyond mere colour. Despite the propaganda of neo-Marxist academic and media prostitutes, and the cowardice of conservatives who dare not stand up to the totalitarian bullying of Political Correctness, this is a fact. Whether those differences are God-given or the result of evolutionary pressure is irrelevant; the important fact is that the British National Party recognises such ineradicable facts of human nature and seeks to base its political programme on such realities, and not on the pernicious fantasy of ‘human equality.’

The most important first consequence of our acceptance of innate human differences is our recognition that nationality, while it is influenced by many factors – including shared loyalties, common history, religious heritage and personal identification – is first and foremost decided by ethnicity.

Norman Tebbitt’s ‘cricket test’ would be a valid indicator if only small numbers were involved, but in an era of mass migrations such civic nationalism is not enough either to explain history or to avoid the repetition at some stage in the future of the most common consequence of multi-racial ‘experiments’ – the collapse of social cohesion leading to mayhem, mass murder and genocide. And, even if, by some miraculous suspension of the depressingly familiar historic pattern, we could avoid such horrors, we would still oppose mass immigration for two reasons:
First, our Masters never asked us if we wanted it and, second, we don’t. This isn’t a matter of ‘racism’; it’s simply a fact of human nature. The divine or Darwinian pressures which created different races in the first place also very clearly created the innate human tendency to prefer ‘us’ to ‘them’ as the way in which such differences would be preserved. So while we don’t hate other peoples, we would rather mix with our own. In a nutshell, we want to walk down our streets and see the familiar faces which a hundred generations would all have recognised as ‘British’ – and all normal people of all races feel the same way.

More to asylum issues than economics

This is where we differ from many conservative types who claim to oppose the current asylum flood on the grounds that the newcomers are ‘spongers’. Undoubtedly many are, and it is both a reason to oppose their coming and a wonderful political opportunity for us to use against those who favour their arrival. But we are not conservatives, and our primary reason for opposing the asylum flood is not economic. We’ve got plenty of homegrown parasites of our own, from welfare bums through to millionaire lawyers and City gamblers. Things wouldn’t suddenly be rosy in our national garden even if we never again saw a single bogus refugee.
We wouldn’t want asylum seekers from Iraq or Afghanistan or Somalia or wherever, even if they did bring material benefits, because even the greatest such gains would be more than offset by the fact that their very presence in such numbers will inevitably transform our society, changing Britain and the British peoples into something which is not British and not what is politely called ‘European’, and impolitely called ‘white’. Conversely, if the remaining 40,000 whites of overwhelmingly British stock facing brutal persecution in Robert Mugabe’s Marxist hell-hole all wanted to come to Britain, we would welcome them with open arms. They are our kith and kin, they share our values and our culture, and they would integrate immediately and earn their own living.

We believe not just that our people are different from others, but that such genuine diversity is worth preserving. It is not a matter of ‘superiority’ or ‘inferiority’. Thus, for example, as racial realists we have no choice but to accept the wealth of scientific data which shows that East Asians – Japanese or Chinese for example – who live in Western societies have lower average crime rates and higher average intelligence levels than us whites, and that these differences are genetically determined, persisting even when factors such as socio-economic status are taken into account. But recognising these facts does not mean that we would welcome the arrival of several million Japanese or Chinese immigrants.
Nor even does it mean that we think that it is a good thing for even a single person of European stock to have so much as one child with a Japanese or Chinese. We do not, because such a union mixes what are not meant to be mixed, destroys two ancient family lines, and undermines two equally great but entirely separate cultures. And we know that most self-respecting Japanese, Chinese and Africans feel exactly the same way.

The analogy of neighbours

This does not make us ‘racists’. If this phrase - invented by the mass murderer Leon Trotsky - means anything, it means individuals who hate other people on account of their being of a different race. We do not. To recognise that the family who live next door are not your family is not to hate them. To point out to them that they have every right to do what they want to in their own house, but no right even to come into yours unless you invite them, or to stay in it once you ask them to go, is not to hate them.

To demand those privileges for yourself, but to claim the right to go into their house and do whatever you want regardless of their wishes would indicate, if not hatred, at least contempt, but that is not our position. We are not imperialists. We don’t want to conquer and exploit anyone else, we simply want to be left with our own culture and identity intact.
We do not demand for our own people any more than the basic human rights which we would extend to every nation, people and tribe on this planet: the right to preserve their own territory, traditions and ethnic identity. The right to preserve, in other words, the things which, by marking their differences from the mass of humanity, make them human and turn their society from an ant heap into a community. We believe, in a nutshell, in the human right to discriminate.

The whole of this article can be found here: http://www.bnp.org.uk/articles/race_reality.htm

Quote:
Originally Posted by The aforementioned BBC article
No, you've only got to look at people like Peter Hitchens writing for the Daily Mail, Littlejohn writing in the Sun, even people like Polly Toynbee writing in the Observer; there is an element of British society - that are intellectuals and so on, there's an understanding that there's a fundamental clash coming between Islam and the West.


(Bold is mine.)

This needed reiteration, if only due to how amusing it is.I never thought I'd see the words 'Littlejohn' and 'Intellectual' in the same postcode, let alone the same sentence.

ok i kept out of this but that is out of order.
While i didnt see the program last night i have seen no evidence before now that the BNP itself is racist
are some members racist? Yes
in a PC world are they considered racist? Yes
Does this mean they are racist? No
Some of what the BNP says is very relevant and should be taken on board, it's people with closed minds that decide they are racist and so should be ignored.

---> Not a member of the BNP (my version of the not a mod sign)


It wasn't just 'some members' that were racist. It was people standing for public election to public posts of office. If they hold views which don't fit in with the party line, the party shouldn't let them stand for election. It was made blatantly obvious that high-ranking party officials (regional organisers, etc) knew of the racist deeds and words of these people standing for office, and had no problem with them.

Aside from this, John Tyndall, the party founder and current party member, was being openly racist at an official party rally.

Not just this, but Party leader Nick Griffin was a former member of the National Front Executive, and as far as I know he has never renounced or apologised for the beliefs he held then.
John Tyndall was also jailed for organising Neo-Nazi Paramilitaries in the 1960s. Combat 18 was originally the BNP bodyguard group. The list of inciminating anecdotes goes on and on.

As for 'people with closed minds'- I've spent the last year writing a study on British Fascism, and I really don't think it's people who regard the BNP as a racist organisation who have closed minds. The European Court stated that they were a clearly racist organisation.

If you dont like it your supposed to form your own. The BNP isnt mainstream enough to many powerful have factions.That's because most of Griffin's rivals have either been expelled or have left of their own accord. The Freedom Party is another fascist group founded by ex BNP members. (Sharon and Phil Edwards). And there's a group of acolytes surrounding ex-BNP member John Tyndall (who's also the editor of the magazine Spearhead), who constantly try and cause trouble for the BNP leadership.

The BNP are anti-British. They're like a mix of the Nazis, the Stalinists and the Taliban.

Taliban? lol

well can someone maybe tell me where i can get an UNEDITIED transcript of what was said so i can see what was said?

Yeah, because the phrases

"I wanna kill Pakis. That's all I wanna do'
and
"I’m kicking him, kicking away, kicking away. Oh, it was f****** fantastic. Blood’s coming out of his head. I looked down at my shoes. I were just covered in blood."

can be easily taken out of context...