NationStates Jolt Archive

First of all, the rules are:

1)NO FLAMING, no matter what!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2)Respect others' beliefs no matter how much you disagree

That said, my favorite candidates that never won (or were never nominated) are, in my particular order:

1)Robert Taft (ran in 1952, lost the Republican presidential nomination to Ike)

2)George Wallace (ran as an American Independent Party candidate in
1968 and a Democrat in 1972 and 1976)

3)Barry Goldwater (Republican candidate in 1964)

4)Howard Phillips (third party candidate in 1992 and 1996, don't remember
which party)

Anyone else have any ideas?

john mccain would have been a great president

another guy, strom thurmond

another guy, strom thurmond

George McGovern. An intelligent, moral, compassionate and highly-capable man.

And think of the many thousands of lives that would've been saved had Nixon been defeated earlier.

That Dude that ran against Reagan. And the one who ran against Nixon (NOT KENNEDY). And the ones who ran against any Republican Nominee after 1900.

That Dude that ran against Reagan. And the one who ran against Nixon (NOT KENNEDY). And the ones who ran against any Republican Nominee after 1900.

The dude who ran against Reagan: Walter Mondale.

The dude(s) who ran against Nixon: Hubert Humphrey (1968) and George McGovern (1972).

2)George Wallace (ran as an American Independent Party candidate in
1968 and a Democrat in 1972 and 1976)

Umm, was not he the Governor of Alabama who supported mobs that wanted to crush the Black American civil rights movement?

2)George Wallace (ran as an American Independent Party candidate in
1968 and a Democrat in 1972 and 1976)

Umm, was not he the Governor of Alabama who supported mobs that wanted to crush the Black American civil rights movement?

Might be why he was a hero...or it might be because he was fighting for this bizarre concept known as "states' rights".

yeah thats what i thought

george wallace is a nutcase, hey rolgurs how is it you know that and dont know gore beat bush

2)George Wallace (ran as an American Independent Party candidate in
1968 and a Democrat in 1972 and 1976)

Umm, was not he the Governor of Alabama who supported mobs that wanted to crush the Black American civil rights movement?

No. He was an Alabama governor, but he was not racist. He merely supported states' rights. In fact, it was Mr. Wallace who removed the phrase 'white supremacy' from the Democratic party ballot label, Mr. Wallace who (as governor in the 80's) appointed more blacks to the government than any other governor in Alabama history, Mr. Wallace who refused to walk out of the 1948 Democratic National Convention with Thurmond and his 'Dixiecrats,' Mr. Wallace who, as a 15-year-old boy, saved a black child from two racist punks, but badly bruised his hands after rendering them unconscious with knock-out blows, and then lost a boxing championship the next night as a result, and Mr. Wallace who served as a trustee of Tuskegee Institute under Governor Jim Folsom.

My vote has to go to my Uncle...

He got robbed! He was robbed I tell ya!

My best candidate that never won? Hmmm...perhaps Mr. Goldwater.

Dr. Ron Paul

Harry Browne

Sen. Goldwater

2)George Wallace (ran as an American Independent Party candidate in
1968 and a Democrat in 1972 and 1976)

Umm, was not he the Governor of Alabama who supported mobs that wanted to crush the Black American civil rights movement?

No. He was an Alabama governor, but he was not racist. He merely supported states' rights. In fact, it was Mr. Wallace who removed the phrase 'white supremacy' from the Democratic party ballot label, Mr. Wallace who (as governor in the 80's) appointed more blacks to the government than any other governor in Alabama history, Mr. Wallace who refused to walk out of the 1948 Democratic National Convention with Thurmond and his 'Dixiecrats,' Mr. Wallace who, as a 15-year-old boy, saved a black child from two racist punks, but badly bruised his hands after rendering them unconscious with knock-out blows, and then lost a boxing championship the next night as a result, and Mr. Wallace who served as a trustee of Tuskegee Institute under Governor Jim Folsom.

Mr Wallace who stood in front of a the door of the University of Alabama to prevent black students from entering into the school.

Al Gore.

2)George Wallace (ran as an American Independent Party candidate in
1968 and a Democrat in 1972 and 1976)

Umm, was not he the Governor of Alabama who supported mobs that wanted to crush the Black American civil rights movement?

No. He was an Alabama governor, but he was not racist. He merely supported states' rights. In fact, it was Mr. Wallace who removed the phrase 'white supremacy' from the Democratic party ballot label, Mr. Wallace who (as governor in the 80's) appointed more blacks to the government than any other governor in Alabama history, Mr. Wallace who refused to walk out of the 1948 Democratic National Convention with Thurmond and his 'Dixiecrats,' Mr. Wallace who, as a 15-year-old boy, saved a black child from two racist punks, but badly bruised his hands after rendering them unconscious with knock-out blows, and then lost a boxing championship the next night as a result, and Mr. Wallace who served as a trustee of Tuskegee Institute under Governor Jim Folsom.

Mr Wallace who stood in front of a the door of the University of Alabama to prevent black students from entering into the school.

He was not fighting integration; he even said that he was merely fighting against mushrooming federal power.

Dr. Ron Paul

Harry Browne

Sen. Goldwater

Dr. Paul ran for President? When? I never knew that!

2)George Wallace (ran as an American Independent Party candidate in
1968 and a Democrat in 1972 and 1976)

Umm, was not he the Governor of Alabama who supported mobs that wanted to crush the Black American civil rights movement?

No. He was an Alabama governor, but he was not racist. He merely supported states' rights. In fact, it was Mr. Wallace who removed the phrase 'white supremacy' from the Democratic party ballot label, Mr. Wallace who (as governor in the 80's) appointed more blacks to the government than any other governor in Alabama history, Mr. Wallace who refused to walk out of the 1948 Democratic National Convention with Thurmond and his 'Dixiecrats,' Mr. Wallace who, as a 15-year-old boy, saved a black child from two racist punks, but badly bruised his hands after rendering them unconscious with knock-out blows, and then lost a boxing championship the next night as a result, and Mr. Wallace who served as a trustee of Tuskegee Institute under Governor Jim Folsom.

Mr Wallace who stood in front of a the door of the University of Alabama to prevent black students from entering into the school.

He was not fighting integration; he even said that he was merely fighting against mushrooming federal power.

and Roy Moore is fighting for religious equality

2)George Wallace (ran as an American Independent Party candidate in
1968 and a Democrat in 1972 and 1976)

Umm, was not he the Governor of Alabama who supported mobs that wanted to crush the Black American civil rights movement?

No. He was an Alabama governor, but he was not racist. He merely supported states' rights. In fact, it was Mr. Wallace who removed the phrase 'white supremacy' from the Democratic party ballot label, Mr. Wallace who (as governor in the 80's) appointed more blacks to the government than any other governor in Alabama history, Mr. Wallace who refused to walk out of the 1948 Democratic National Convention with Thurmond and his 'Dixiecrats,' Mr. Wallace who, as a 15-year-old boy, saved a black child from two racist punks, but badly bruised his hands after rendering them unconscious with knock-out blows, and then lost a boxing championship the next night as a result, and Mr. Wallace who served as a trustee of Tuskegee Institute under Governor Jim Folsom.

Mr Wallace who stood in front of a the door of the University of Alabama to prevent black students from entering into the school.

He was not fighting integration; he even said that he was merely fighting against mushrooming federal power.There are so many just goddamn weird things that went on with civil rights campaigns in the sixties. If you'll excuse the pun, it wasn't so black and white at the time.

2)George Wallace (ran as an American Independent Party candidate in
1968 and a Democrat in 1972 and 1976)

Umm, was not he the Governor of Alabama who supported mobs that wanted to crush the Black American civil rights movement?

No. He was an Alabama governor, but he was not racist. He merely supported states' rights. In fact, it was Mr. Wallace who removed the phrase 'white supremacy' from the Democratic party ballot label, Mr. Wallace who (as governor in the 80's) appointed more blacks to the government than any other governor in Alabama history, Mr. Wallace who refused to walk out of the 1948 Democratic National Convention with Thurmond and his 'Dixiecrats,' Mr. Wallace who, as a 15-year-old boy, saved a black child from two racist punks, but badly bruised his hands after rendering them unconscious with knock-out blows, and then lost a boxing championship the next night as a result, and Mr. Wallace who served as a trustee of Tuskegee Institute under Governor Jim Folsom.

Mr Wallace who stood in front of a the door of the University of Alabama to prevent black students from entering into the school.

He was not fighting integration; he even said that he was merely fighting against mushrooming federal power.

and Roy Moore is fighting for religious equality

Sir, I don't know if you are mocking me or not, but I would recommend we both stop right now. I don't want this to become a huge flame war.

Oh yeah, and it was Mr. Wallace who appointed staunch anti-KKK Bill Baxley to be his Attorney-General.

yeah thats what i thought

george wallace is a nutcase, hey rolgurs how is it you know that and dont know gore beat bush
How little you know! the first time uncle george ran for governor of alabama, he ran with the endorsement of the NAACP. He lost, and at that point he realized the concept of states rights was more important than the concept of civil rights to his constituency. You call him a nutcase, but most political science professors call him a great politician.

yeah thats what i thought

george wallace is a nutcase, hey rolgurs how is it you know that and dont know gore beat bush
How little you know! the first time uncle george ran for governor of alabama, he ran with the endorsement of the NAACP. He lost, and at that point he realized the concept of states rights was more important than the concept of civil rights to his constituency. You call him a nutcase, but most political science professors call him a great politician.

Thank you, New Auburnland.

Ok, just to torture you guys, I'll say 1920 Farmer Labor Candidate:
Parley Parker Christensen.

I wrote a high school paper on the Farmer Labor Party convention, which had the making of a movie, it was that big.

But, for major party candidate I'll go with Hubert H. Humphrey.

Truman was the best US President and the least corrupt at the same time (a very rare thing). He jailed a bunch of Generals (also known as war profitteers) over the B-24 death trap issue and gave that post-war "price of Freedom" speech that has never since been addressed by the American leaders (who are generally paid off by the same people profitting from the Arms Industry).

I respect your opinion, but I'll never forgive Truman for selling out China, getting us entangled in two entangling alliances (the United Nations and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization), dropping the bombs on Japan (when Japan had been trying to surrender for almost a year), illegally getting us involved in a war and refusing to let us win it, allowing many subversives, pro-communists, communists, and security risks to remain in the government, wanting a national health care plan (which is socialistic and highly unconstitutional), and claiming to be anti-communist while giving the U.S.S.R. and its satellites millions of dollars' worth of military and economic aid every year.

yeah thats what i thought

george wallace is a nutcase, hey rolgurs how is it you know that and dont know gore beat bush
How little you know! the first time uncle george ran for governor of alabama, he ran with the endorsement of the NAACP. He lost, and at that point he realized the concept of states rights was more important than the concept of civil rights to his constituency. You call him a nutcase, but most political science professors call him a great politician.

then he was a conservative fool, he decided ot start his platform of states rights on the basis of segregation, on the basis other people are not equal becuase they are different, that right there costs him all respect he would have gained from me


im all for popping the ballooning federalism issue, but starting it by saying other people are inherently not equal is no way to go by it

yeah thats what i thought

george wallace is a nutcase, hey rolgurs how is it you know that and dont know gore beat bush
How little you know! the first time uncle george ran for governor of alabama, he ran with the endorsement of the NAACP. He lost, and at that point he realized the concept of states rights was more important than the concept of civil rights to his constituency. You call him a nutcase, but most political science professors call him a great politician.

then he was a conservative fool, he decided ot start his platform of states rights on the basis of segregation, on the basis other people are not equal becuase they are different, that right there costs him all respect he would have gained from me


im all for popping the ballooning federalism issue, but starting it by saying other people are inherently not equal is no way to go by it

Well, personally, I always thought George Washington was pretty bad.

You really arent getting this are you? Wallace gave the people of Alabama what they wanted. The first job of every politician is to keep their job. that means keeping your constituency happy.

Wallace was a politician, his posistion changed to the please the public. Much like John Kerry today.

You really arent getting this are you? Wallace gave the people of Alabama what they wanted. The first job of every politician is to keep their job. that means keeping your constituency happy.

Wallace was a politician, his posistion changed to the please the public. Much like John Kerry today.

Don't insult John Kerry. I love her! She's a wonderful politician!