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ALERT: Virus Infects Computers Via USING Internet Explorer

The Lowland Clans
26-06-2004, 18:11
That's right folks, the sh*t has hit the fan.

The virus is a Keystroke recorder that allows the hackers to see you social security numers, credit card numers, etc etc. ad infinitum.

It actually first infects remote web servers, so that when you simply visit the sites with a browser, it then downloads itself to your machine and does its’ stuff. There is reason to believe that even patched web servers are vulnerable

The article about the virus is here:
Virus Designed to Steal Windows Users' Data
Hundreds of Web Sites Targeted

A new Internet virus has surfaced that allows hackers to steal passwords, credit card numbers and other personal information when someone merely visits an infected Web site, government computer security experts warned this week.

Hundreds of Web sites have been targeted by the virus, which exploits flaws in Microsoft Corp.'s Windows Internet software, according to an alert issued Thursday by the U.S. Computer Emergency Readiness Team (US-CERT), a division of the Department of Homeland Security.

Infected sites were programmed to connect people using the Microsoft Internet Explorer browser to a Web site that contains code allowing hackers to record what users type, such as passwords and credit card and Social Security numbers. The code then e-mails that information to the anonymous attackers.

Government officials would not identify the infected sites; computer security vendors said many have taken steps to fix the problem. In addition, most large Internet service providers have stopped forwarding Web traffic to the Russian Web site that apparently hosts the software that records what is typed, minimizing the theft of data, officials said.

Among the several Web sites hit by the virus, dubbed "js.scob.trojan" by one antivirus vendor, were the Web sites of the Kelley Blue Book automobile pricing guide and MinervaHealth Inc., a Jackson, Wyo., company that provides online financial services for hospitals and health care businesses.

Robyn Eckard, a spokeswoman for the Irvine, Calif.-based Kelley Blue Book, said the company learned about the problem late Wednesday after Web site visitors said their antivirus software tipped them off to the code. Eckard said Kelly Blue Book removed the malicious code from its site by late Thursday afternoon.

Jennifer Scharff, vice president of marketing for MinervaHealth, said some of the company's clients reported the problem on Thursday. The company has since fixed its site, she said. Scharff said no more than 50 visitors browsed the Web site during the time it was serving up the hostile code.

Stephen Toulouse, a security program manager at Microsoft, said the company does not believe the attack is widespread. "Nonetheless, we view this as a very real threat, with serious significance in terms of the potential impact on our customers," he said.

Toulouse said the company is gathering information on the attack and will hand it over to the FBI.

FBI spokesman Joe Parris declined to say whether the FBI is investigating the attack. "These types of Trojan horse attacks are not that uncommon, and we work closely with Microsoft in investigating matters of this type and always follow up on any information provided by industry," he said.

Security experts said the attack represents the latest variation on "phishing" scams, a form of fraud designed to trick people into giving personal data to criminals who have designed Web sites to look like those of respectable companies.

Ken Dunham, malicious code manager for iDefense Inc., a Reston-based computer security company, said he expects this kind of attack to become more widespread in coming weeks and months.

"These guys have the tools, techniques and motivation to launch highly sophisticated attacks that are very difficult for consumers to protect themselves against," he said. "Whoever is responsible has just seen how well this attack works, and other [hacker groups] are almost surely going to take notice."

Computers experts urged Internet users to install firewalls and antivirus software and to download the latest updates. A CERT alert said Explorer users also can protect themselves by turning off the JavaScript function in their browsers. That change, however, can impair Internet browsing since JavaScript is a programming language used to add interactive functions to many Web sites.

The attack takes advantage of several recently discovered security flaws in Microsoft's Internet browser and Internet Information Services Web software. Microsoft released a patch in April to fix one security hole in its Internet browser; the company is still working on a patch for the other flaw, which security researchers publicly detailed less than two weeks ago.

CERT recommends that Explorer users consider other browsers that are not affected by the attack, such as Mozilla, Mozilla Firefox, Netscape and Opera. Mac, Linux and other non-Windows operating systems are immune from this attack. For people who continue to use the Internet Explorer, CERT and Microsoft recommend setting the browser's security settings to "high," but that can impair some browsing functions.
Avia
26-06-2004, 18:16
Yeah, I wiped the harddrive of my computer the day before yesterday.

It has really sucked.

Now I won't use IE anymore... I use Firefox from Mozilla.

Sigh.
Petsburg
26-06-2004, 18:50
Yeah, I wiped the harddrive of my computer the day before yesterday.

It has really sucked.

Now I won't use IE anymore... I use Firefox from Mozilla.

Sigh.]

Yep, im using firefox too. I dont think its worthwhile having IE as standard on windows, its just too vulnerable to attacks
Avia
26-06-2004, 18:51
Yeah, I wiped the harddrive of my computer the day before yesterday.

It has really sucked.

Now I won't use IE anymore... I use Firefox from Mozilla.

Sigh.]

Yep, im using firefox too. I dont think its worthwhile having IE as standard on windows, its just too vulnerable to attacks

Yeah, exactly... I didn't realize that's what caused it the first time... the same thing happened to me a few months ago, and I had to wipe my drive then too.

Now it's the second time I've been hit, wiped the disk...and I've learned better.

Firefox with the Noia skin, all the way...
Jeruselem
26-06-2004, 18:58
Interesting

I have IE6 SP1, McAfee VirusScan 4.5, Ad Aware 6, Spybot 1.3, internal XP firewall, XP anti-spy 3.81, Popup manager installed. Not paranoid ...
Avia
26-06-2004, 19:36
Interesting

I have IE6 SP1, McAfee VirusScan 4.5, Ad Aware 6, Spybot 1.3, internal XP firewall, XP anti-spy 3.81, Popup manager installed. Not paranoid ...

Ahh you think that's tough?

I had all of those, and some thing that killed all the trojans.
I was the epitome of secure.

When my computer was infected, none of the programs could delete the file (its impossible to find it, and impossible to delete) that got on my computer (bridge.dll, sysfader, sink_window, etc) or they didn't detect or catch them, and my computer acted like nothing was wrong.. then BAM.

even the professional version of norton antivirus that i use, it said I had no viruses. Paid good money for that software too...

Just don't use IE. Use Firefox from Mozilla...

Trust me on this one. I've been through it twice.
Superpower07
26-06-2004, 20:11
Hey does anybody know already if they have pinpointed this thing's source?
Fluffywuffy
26-06-2004, 20:15
No, I don't. I tend not to trust people like that either. Who knows what files you could have me be deleting?
Southern Illinois
26-06-2004, 20:23
Hooray for Opera!
Yugolsavia
26-06-2004, 21:07
this is not going to be good.
Colodia
26-06-2004, 21:17
*clicks "Live Update" on Norton AntiVirus and pats it*

Even if I get infected, I have nothing in my computer worthy for a virus. Unless the virus is interested in pictures of a Nazi anime chick and a list of songs and games I want to get.
Avia
26-06-2004, 21:24
*clicks "Live Update" on Norton AntiVirus and pats it*

Even if I get infected, I have nothing in my computer worthy for a virus. Unless the virus is interested in pictures of a Nazi anime chick and a list of songs and games I want to get.

Norton AntiVirus won't save you...

*shakes head*
Opal Isle
26-06-2004, 21:24
Is there something new and different about this virus that has happened in the past nine+ years of hacking?
Colodia
26-06-2004, 21:26
*clicks "Live Update" on Norton AntiVirus and pats it*

Even if I get infected, I have nothing in my computer worthy for a virus. Unless the virus is interested in pictures of a Nazi anime chick and a list of songs and games I want to get.

Norton AntiVirus won't save you...

*shakes head*

*shrugs*
I ain;t about to pretend this is some massive invasion. I'm NOT going to be downloading a new browser either!

*sets security setting to HIGH*

And I hardley go to any significant websites. So far, just NS and ucomics.com. Boo ya, I pwn...
Colodia
26-06-2004, 21:26
*clicks "Live Update" on Norton AntiVirus and pats it*

Even if I get infected, I have nothing in my computer worthy for a virus. Unless the virus is interested in pictures of a Nazi anime chick and a list of songs and games I want to get.

Norton AntiVirus won't save you...

*shakes head*

*shrugs*
I ain;t about to pretend this is some massive invasion. I'm NOT going to be downloading a new browser either!

*sets security setting to HIGH*

And I hardley go to any significant websites. So far, just NS and ucomics.com. Boo ya, I pwn...
Opal Isle
26-06-2004, 22:06
*shrugs*
I ain;t about to pretend this is some massive invasion. I'm NOT going to be downloading a new browser either!

*sets security setting to HIGH*

And I hardley go to any significant websites. So far, just NS and ucomics.com. Boo ya, I pwn...

Hmm, this seems like an attempt to get people off of IE more than anything. As far as I know, all browsers are vulnerable to pretty much the same type of viruses as they all read the same scripts, however Mozilla is far superior to IE. Even with out this virus junk.

Is there something new and different about this virus that has happened in the past nine+ years of hacking?
Seeing as no one has responded, I'll take that as a no...
Bodies Without Organs
26-06-2004, 22:09
I ain;t about to pretend this is some massive invasion. I'm NOT going to be downloading a new browser either!

I believe the phrase here is "a sticking plaster over a cancer" IE has once again been shown to be a fundamentally flawed piece of software. What is the appropriate response to a piece of software that doesn't work properly? Is it running more software in the background to protect it, or is it removing the defective software and replacing it with a functional one?

I think your solution is a bit like mounting a flamethrower on the Titanic in case of icebergs...
Opal Isle
26-06-2004, 22:15
I think your solution is a bit like mounting a flamethrower on the Titanic in case of icebergs...

That's an excellent idea, but I don't pilot the Titanic. And actually, I still don't see anyone showing to me why IE is vulnerable and not other Internet browsers. And besides that, I don't use IE and still pack the flamethrowers.
Spoffin
26-06-2004, 22:15
I use MSN explorer. Is this safe or should I be buying canned goods?
Opal Isle
26-06-2004, 22:22
I use MSN explorer. Is this safe or should I be buying canned goods?

Don't forget the water and the electric generator. Oh yes, stockpile your uzis and such as the government will be descending into anarchy.
Colodia
27-06-2004, 01:39
I think your solution is a bit like mounting a flamethrower on the Titanic in case of icebergs...

That's an excellent idea, but I don't pilot the Titanic. And actually, I still don't see anyone showing to me why IE is vulnerable and not other Internet browsers. And besides that, I don't use IE and still pack the flamethrowers.The only reason I see that IE is more vulnerable in comparison to other browsers is that THEY ARE SO DAMN CRAPPY THEY DON'T NEED ANYMORE REASONS TO BE EVEN CRAPPIER!

*ahem* But I do like the idea of the flamethrower protecting against icebergs. *thumbs up*

(that wasn't sarcasm)
Tuesday Heights
27-06-2004, 02:05
I use Mozilla, and am in no fear of this virus, I've tinkered with my laptop so much I dare any hacker to try and break through the firewall this baby's got. :D
Spoffin
27-06-2004, 02:09
I use Mozilla, and am in no fear of this virus, I've tinkered with my laptop so much I dare any hacker to try and break through the firewall this baby's got. :DTH... you're insane. Didn't you ever watch Thuderbirds? They always say "Nothing can go wrong", and then its only a matter of time before something does.
Colodia
27-06-2004, 02:11
I use Mozilla, and am in no fear of this virus, I've tinkered with my laptop so much I dare any hacker to try and break through the firewall this baby's got. :DTH... you're insane. Didn't you ever watch Thuderbirds? They always say "Nothing can go wrong", and then its only a matter of time before something does.
Yes, only a matter of time before the Russians (who supposedly created this virus) press the big-red-button and release a Trojan for all browsers!
Nianacio
27-06-2004, 02:32
Hooray for Opera!Indeed. 8)
I'm NOT going to be downloading a new browser either!Why not? Opera, Mozilla, and Firefox are free and superior to IE. I prefer Opera for various reasons, but any of the above would be better than Internet Explorer.

I don't think a flamethrower would do much to an iceberg, by the way...
Tuesday Heights
27-06-2004, 04:02
I use Mozilla, and am in no fear of this virus, I've tinkered with my laptop so much I dare any hacker to try and break through the firewall this baby's got. :DTH... you're insane. Didn't you ever watch Thuderbirds? They always say "Nothing can go wrong", and then its only a matter of time before something does.

LOL, Spof!

Well, I'm fairly confident in my tinkering abilities and my anti-virus software and scans I perform as such. I've also become pretty good at cleaning out my registry and other no-touch-Windows places that they warn you not to go through... so, I'm not too worried, but I'd never say it'd never happen...

But, let me tell you guys, if anybody thinks of hacking into my laptop and changing the screensaver or desktop or whatever... I'll get you! :P
Opal Isle
27-06-2004, 11:18
Still, no one has explained why IE is more vulnerable...
Dragons Bay
27-06-2004, 11:27
Still, no one has explained why IE is more vulnerable...

Maybe they're targeting Microsoft.
Opal Isle
27-06-2004, 11:32
They probably are. Unfortunately, no matter what browser they go through, they are targeting Microsoft, because viruses really exploit holes in Windows, a Microsoft program. However, I am failing to understand how a virus can be attained by visiting a website with IE but not with any other Web Browser. I seriously think that someone didn't think this all the way through. It is possible however that you can attain the virus no matter what browser you use, but the virus itself exploits Microsoft's Internet Explorer, therefore, if you don't use it, you'll be uneffected, but unless this is the case, using alternate browsers makes you no more safe. Additionally, if you keep anti-virus software updated, you should be fine. I really don't see how any virus can make itself complete immune to anti-virus software, unless it physically changed part of your motherboard or something. Or...uninstalled the anti-virus software, which woulda be hella funny...
Lawnmowerville
27-06-2004, 11:57
They probably are. Unfortunately, no matter what browser they go through, they are targeting Microsoft, because viruses really exploit holes in Windows, a Microsoft program. However, I am failing to understand how a virus can be attained by visiting a website with IE but not with any other Web Browser. I seriously think that someone didn't think this all the way through. It is possible however that you can attain the virus no matter what browser you use, but the virus itself exploits Microsoft's Internet Explorer, therefore, if you don't use it, you'll be uneffected, but unless this is the case, using alternate browsers makes you no more safe. Additionally, if you keep anti-virus software updated, you should be fine. I really don't see how any virus can make itself complete immune to anti-virus software, unless it physically changed part of your motherboard or something. Or...uninstalled the anti-virus software, which woulda be hella funny...

Ever seen the movie Erik The Viking? If not, watch it, especially the bit where the island is sinking slowly beneath the sea. You're the king. Or perhaps Comical Ali.

I'm using Mozilla and XP. I don't trust the XP firewall, so I have another. Virus definitions are up to date, and AdAware and SpyBot get run regularly.



I'm gonna get fukked too, aren't I... :evil:
Smeagol-Gollum
27-06-2004, 12:36
Before hitting the panic button why not just get some of the facts.

http://sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/js.scob.trojan.html is probably a good place to start.

Or, just do a google-search, using your very own favourite browser, on the term "js.scob.trojan".
Monkeypimp
27-06-2004, 13:41
The only time I use IE is at tech. I wonder how I ever didn't punch my comp in shear frustration at popups...