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The Swiss are supposed to be neutral...

As a state they are.

But all countries have knobs.


I DEMAND A REMATCH!!!!

WITH COLLINA REFEREEING!!

and just how lopsided were the bad calls? One close decisive call is forgivable. Several bad calls against both teams end up cancelling out over the course of the game are forgivable. If you're referring to a ref whose bad calls significantly favored one team over another, that would justify complaints

Maybe some practise taking penalties would help also?

Maybe some practise taking penalties would help also?

In fact you could have replaced Beckham with a tub of lard throughout the whole tournament and it would have made no difference.

It's harder to merchandise from a tub of lard.

That dutch chap who's name I'm not going to try took his penilty the other day the exact same way I took the only one I've ever taken.


I'm happy enough with that.

Some would say the tub of lard would be more marketable as it has more personality.

We were robbed though
One positive aspect of this is at least the chav scum will take the flags of their cars now.

We were robbed though
One positive aspect of this is at least the chav scum will take the flags of their cars now.

meh anytime any english team loses they were 'robbed' it seems.

Not a fan of England, myself, but the ref made a stupefyingly bad call :(
Beckham... he and Kournikova should get together -- a match made in loser heaven.

Bex ready for post-game entertainment (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004291561,00.html)

We were robbed though
One positive aspect of this is at least the chav scum will take the flags of their cars now.

meh anytime any english team loses they were 'robbed' it seems.
You didn't see the game, did you?

We were robbed though
One positive aspect of this is at least the chav scum will take the flags of their cars now.

meh anytime any english team loses they were 'robbed' it seems.
You didn't see the game, did you?

No because it was on at about 6am. I don't doubt that there were some bad decisions, but everytime england loses a crucial game of something it seems like they were robbed, someone shouldn't have been sent off or some other excuse.

That dutch chap who's name I'm not going to try took his penilty the other day the exact same way I took the only one I've ever taken.


I'm happy enough with that.

van Nistelrooij, it's an easy name.

Its only a game lads, someones got to win and someones got to lose.

The trouble is, its national pride that gets dented when a team gets beat wheather its a bad ref. decision or not. Its the luck of the draw and it happens in all sports. Look at Venus Williams getting knocked out at Wimbledon in the second round, all because the umpire could not add up points. Did she scream and shout, no she was a lady and accepted the umpires decision, good for her to accept defeat gracefully.

Thats what we should all do instead of moaning and groaning about our loss, after all, there's allways next year. :roll:

Its only a game lads, someones got to win and someones got to lose.

The trouble is, its national pride that gets dented when a team gets beat wheather its a bad ref. decision or not. Its the luck of the draw and it happens in all sports. Look at Venus Williams getting knocked out at Wimbledon in the second round, all because the umpire could not add up points. Did she scream and shout, no she was a lady and accepted the umpires decision, good for her to accept defeat gracefully.

Thats what we should all do instead of moaning and groaning about our loss, after all, there's allways next year. :roll:

umm, it is every four years. Like the World Cup and Olympics.

But yes it is just a game.

That dutch chap who's name I'm not going to try took his penilty the other day the exact same way I took the only one I've ever taken.


I'm happy enough with that.

van Nistelrooij, it's an easy name.

It's always funny to hear foreign people at sporting events and such trying to pronounce Dutch names :lol:

But if you want a bad referee, rewatch the Spanish guy from Holland-Czech. Now that was a bad referee. If not biased, then he is utterly blind.

We were robbed though
One positive aspect of this is at least the chav scum will take the flags of their cars now.

meh anytime any english team loses they were 'robbed' it seems.
You didn't see the game, did you?

No because it was on at about 6am.
That's why they invented VCRs :lol:

I don't doubt that there were some bad decisions, but everytime england loses a crucial game of something it seems like they were robbed, someone shouldn't have been sent off or some other excuse.
A bad decision earlier in the game might not be fatal, but when a ref disallows a perfectly good winning goal 2 minutes from time, it DOES have a decisive impact on the outcome. Your generalisation about England making excuses for failure may be right or wrong, but in this particular match the ref's error denied England a victory. No doubt about it.

Rooney gets his foot stamped on by a defender, breaking it. Urs Meier then gives a free kick against him

http://www.ursmeier.ch/referee/

Use the link above and email Urs Meier with your comments

That dutch chap who's name I'm not going to try took his penilty the other day the exact same way I took the only one I've ever taken.


I'm happy enough with that.

van Nistelrooij, it's an easy name.

It's always funny to hear foreign people at sporting events and such trying to pronounce Dutch names :lol:

But if you want a bad referee, rewatch the Spanish guy from Holland-Czech. Now that was a bad referee. If not biased, then he is utterly blind.
I presume you're agitating for van Nistelrooij goal from off-side against the Czechs to be disallowed? :twisted:
Or perhaps it is the refereeing of the Holland vs Latvia game -- a penalty on Davids (for a foul outside the penalty area) or van Nistelrooij's goal (off-side at the time of free kick) -- that bothers you? :twisted: :lol:

P.S. Well, in truth, I have a soft spot for Holland -- especially when y'all are in the same Group with farking Germany!

It's always funny to hear foreign people at sporting events and such trying to pronounce Dutch names :lol:

But if you want a bad referee, rewatch the Spanish guy from Holland-Czech. Now that was a bad referee. If not biased, then he is utterly blind.

Or Gottfried Dienst, the coincidentally Swiss referee from the 1966 world cup final.

"They think it's all over... it is now." :D

Now if that is not the best reason for a viedo ref I don't know what is.
The ball is in the net, the ball is dead, have a 30 second look at the video and hey presto and England win.
Works ok in Rugby league.

Now if that is not the best reason for a viedo ref I don't know what is.
The ball is in the net, the ball is dead, have a 30 second look at the video and hey presto and England win.
Works ok in Rugby league.

Be careful what you wish for. World Cup 2002: Beckham goes down in the box, gets a penalty, scores, and England win 1-0. With a video referee the best you'd get would be a yellow card to Beckham for diving...

As an English fan of the beautiful game.. the only response I could make had (for therapeutic reasons) to be In Character:

http://invisionfree.com/forums/CACE/index.php?showtopic=1466&st=0&


(at the bottom of the thread)

peace
Beno

Collina would have given the goal

Collina would have given the goal

Unknowable. Personally, I thought Terry fouled Ricardo and prevented him from jumping for the ball. You win some, you lose some. So it goes.

Maybe some practise taking penalties would help also?

In fact you could have replaced Beckham with a tub of lard throughout the whole tournament and it would have made no difference.

LOL

Collina would have given the goal
really?
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2004/soccer/06/24/england.portugal/p1_campbell_getty.jpg

dp

Now if that is not the best reason for a viedo ref I don't know what is.
The ball is in the net, the ball is dead, have a 30 second look at the video and hey presto and England win.
Works ok in Rugby league.
Im all for Video replay...Its not perfect...but its way better that all the nonsense calls we have with FIFA

Or Gottfried Dienst, the coincidentally Swiss referee from the 1966 world cup final.

"They think it's all over... it is now." :D

Abolutely: after all: he saw a goal that didn´t happened in favour of England. :evil: :evil: :evil:
In respect to referee decisions there is certainly no football playing country that has nothing to complain about. Get over it, guys.
I think Terry fouled Ricardo and prevented him from jumping for the ball in the so-called five-meter room for the keeper. In this arrea no pushing of the keeper is allowed.
This is a strict interpretation of the rules.
It might be the case that in England those rules are interpreted less strictly but that doesn´t change the fact that the referee was acting in his disgreacion.
By the way: Portugal played better. England was much to defensive especially in the second half. What's going on with Beckham???? Is he too busy to be a star to concentrate on football??? I dislike him personally but in the past he really played good at least. That can´t be said for this EC. Owen was a bit better but it was not enough either. That England lost Rooney was bad luck but that can happend.
Portugal was really dominating the second half and they deserved winning.
Congratulations to Portugal :twisted: :twisted:

Absalout f**ing awful ref. A F***ing t***pot if you f***ing ask me. *Continues for several minuates*

I cried when I watched the tapes.

Be careful what you wish for. World Cup 2002: Beckham goes down in the box, gets a penalty, scores, and England win 1-0. With a video referee the best you'd get would be a yellow card to Beckham for diving...
What game was that?
vs Argentina?

Terry wasn't pushing the keeper down, you try jumping like that without raising your arms, you can't do it. Ricardo wasn't trying to get up to the ball either, he was falling down, and a while before Terry's arm was near him. The Ref was very biased, he gave Gerrard a yellow card for a foul (which is fair enough) but then a portugese player done exactly the same the other end, but no card. And you can't slag Beckham or any of the other players off either. Every player has high and low points, everyone says how crap they are, then they score and suddenly they're great again. The penalty spot was a disgrace aswell, you can say "we'll it was the same for the Portugese players so it doesn't matter", thats like changing the ball for a brick and making the pitch a triangle, it's changing the rules. Also, everyone is saying that English fans say they were robbed all the time, thats bs if i ever heard it. I can't once remember English fans saying that, this is the first time and we are right the ref was a cheating scumbag and i suggest that ever dissappointed fan goes to his website and gives him an e-mail to highlight what a cheating swiss prick he is. :evil:

Terry wasn't pushing the keeper down, you try jumping like that without raising your arms, you can't do it. Ricardo wasn't trying to get up to the ball either, he was falling down, and a while before Terry's arm was near him. The Ref was very biased, he gave Gerrard a yellow card for a foul (which is fair enough) but then a portugese player done exactly the same the other end, but no card. And you can't slag Beckham or any of the other players off either. Every player has high and low points, everyone says how crap they are, then they score and suddenly they're great again. The penalty spot was a disgrace aswell, you can say "we'll it was the same for the Portugese players so it doesn't matter", thats like changing the ball for a brick and making the pitch a triangle, it's changing the rules. Also, everyone is saying that English fans say they were robbed all the time, thats bs if i ever heard it. I can't once remember English fans saying that, this is the first time and we are right the ref was a cheating scumbag and i suggest that ever dissappointed fan goes to his website and gives him an e-mail to highlight what a cheating swiss prick he is. :evil:

Terry wasn't pushing the keeper down,
riigth...Terry's left arm was not pushing the keeper...the pictures and videos are all photoshoped...

and it was not Becky's fault...it was the Wind...or the humidity...or the Grass...or the white spot...anything but his fault....same thing for the game vs France...and vs Argentina...and... :roll:

Terry wasn't pushing the keeper down,
riigth...Terry's left arm was not pushing the keeper...the pictures and videos are all photoshoped...

and it was not Becky's fault...it was the Wind...or the humidity...or the Grass...or the white spot...anything but his fault....same thing for the game vs France...and vs Argentina...and... :roll:
Terry jumped before Ricardo. It's hardly an offence that Terry's hands moved in downward motion as he leapt and the left one landed on the goalkeeper's shoulder. Ricardo should've jumped with Terry, if he wanted the ball, but he didn't even make an attempt. -- I don't see how he can complain of being impeded if he was so late to the action.

Or Gottfried Dienst, the coincidentally Swiss referee from the 1966 world cup final.

"They think it's all over... it is now." :D

Abolutely: after all: he saw a goal that didn´t happened in favour of England. :evil: :evil: :evil:
In respect to referee decisions there is certainly no football playing country that has nothing to complain about. Get over it, guys.
I think Terry fouled Ricardo and prevented him from jumping for the ball in the so-called five-meter room for the keeper. In this arrea no pushing of the keeper is allowed.
This is a strict interpretation of the rules.
It might be the case that in England those rules are interpreted less strictly but that doesn´t change the fact that the referee was acting in his disgreacion.
By the way: Portugal played better. England was much to defensive especially in the second half. What's going on with Beckham???? Is he too busy to be a star to concentrate on football??? I dislike him personally but in the past he really played good at least. That can´t be said for this EC. Owen was a bit better but it was not enough either. That England lost Rooney was bad luck but that can happend.
Portugal was really dominating the second half and they deserved winning.
Congratulations to Portugal :twisted: :twisted:
Czech Republic B Team 2
Germany 1
:twisted:

@Detsl-stan

"Czech Republic B Team 2
Germany 1"

And???? I´m not a fanatic football fan. Actually I don´t even watch the Bundesliga. But when there is the EC or WC I´m watching most games.
Germany is a football-crazy nation (like many others) and I get "infected" by this as well. Of course: it is a big drama now. However: the same thing happend two years ago. That was even worse. It was a 0 - 3 against Portugal. This time they were at least playing better. The first half was not so good although they took the lead in the 21 minute. Unfortunately they Czechs equalised after a free kick near the goal. The second half against the Czechs was very good, actually.
It was much more offensive, due to a change in the team: two strikers instead of one. The first half was much two defensive due to that: mistake by the coach.
They were storming and storming but the stupid ball :evil: :evil: just didn´t go into the goal. They hit the posts several times, the czech keeper always stood in the way :evil: :evil: . He was really badass :evil: :evil:

Well: and than the czechs had one counter-attack and were able to use it to shoot their second goal in the (I think) 79 minute. Our keeper was too stupid :evil: :evil:
Well: and that was it.
At least it was exciting to watch the second half :P :P The hope died in the 79 minute.
If they only played that way against Latvia they would have won that. The draw (0-0) just wasn´t enough.
But that´s the way it is: sometimes you win, sometimes you loose, sometimes you are a lucky winner (and undeserved), sometimes an unlucky looser (sometimes also undeserved).

I enjoyed watching England-Portugal. It was really exciting till the last minute. Portugal deserved to win. They were much more offensive and especially in the second half dominating the game.

Collina would have given the goal
really?
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2004/soccer/06/24/england.portugal/p1_campbell_getty.jpg

That shows that Terry lept up with his arms in the air (Most people do this when they jump) to go for the ball and out of instinct his arms have come down as he is landing. He is clearly not pushing the goalkeeper.

He is clearly not pushing the goalkeeper.
Terry's left arm...is clearly pushing on Ricardo's face...

If you cant see that...something very powerful is blinding your brains...
nothing i can do.