NationStates Jolt Archive


Addiction and smoking

Santa Barbara
25-06-2004, 05:12
I gotta clarify this here, for myself if not the whole world. See there's a little misconception, I think, maybe a trendy affection for the concept of addiction. Here's how it works, and here's how it's fignorant.

If you smoke, it's assumed you do so because you are addicted. No one seems to think otherwise now. It's just an automatic. Not really surprising, what with DARE and "The Truth" commercials and anti-tobacco company lawsuits, etc etc etc.

On the other hand, if you drink, you're not assumed to be an alcoholic. Why not? Whats the difference? Aren't both cigarettes and alcohol addictive substances? After all why else would anyone smoke if not for addiction, neh? So why not that apply to drinking?

Because there hasn't been any anti-beer company lawsuits, the Truth commercials only have a thing against UNDERage drinking, and because they give wine at communion.

The truth is, I would bet money, and I'm not the gambling sort, on the fact that I'm not addicted to cigarettes. Here's more proof how.

I was addicted to caffeine. At first I drank cuz it was in the house all the time, in the form of soda. But then it became habit. And when I realized I didn't like it all that much and quit cold turkey, the next day I was tortured with headaches that wouldn't go away til I drank some more. I tried that a few times, actually, and always it was like that. Addiction. Eventually I managed to quit by graduating it out over a month, decreasing the amount each week so as to reduce my dependency.

Thats what it is. Dependency. Addiction is depending on the chemical in your daily life and being unable to stop whether you would want to or not. That's why addiction is so rough.

But me, I've 'quit' smoking a few times. I say 'quit' cuz I never said, "Aha, now I'll never ever smoke another cigarette again!" I just stopped doing it. Never once have I had any physical withdrawal symptoms from this. Never have I felt compelled to go out and get cigarettes so that I would be able to function. It was just about desire. Whether I wanted to smoke or not. Much like drinking, you either want to drink at any given moment, or you don't, yes? Unless you're an alcoholic, and you want it all the time.

See I do believe in addiction, I even think cigarettes can be addictive. As caffeine, and alcohol, and heroin. I just think it makes a mockery of the term if its applied whenever someone happens to light up a cigarette. The theory in my case, as its been applied to me by certain critics, is that "if you keep going back to it, you're addicted." But that doesn't make sense. I keep going back to drinking too, but I'm not an alcoholic and it would be an insult to alcoholics to try to make the case.

And in my case, the only time I've ever felt the need, felt compelled to smoke was when I was driving down south and got in a car accident. I was all shaken up, having nearly just died and all, and needed something to steady me. An emotional thing, you see. But even then I don't think that was addiction. I mean crap, I kept driving down south, was I addicted to the direction of south? It just gets ridiculous how ignorant people are and how willingly they swallow even false concepts as truth. To the point where NO ONE BELIEVES I AM NOT ADDICTED TO CIGARETTES!

See, I just LIKE to do it. I don't HAVE to; somedays I will chain smoke the whole pack, other times I can go for weeks or months without so much as thinking about lighting up. It depends on the occasion, just like so many things people do. Doesn't seem like addiction to me, not in the sense I had caffeine every day, or that alcoholics and drug addicts know it.

And thats a problem, because I still smoke, so its impossible to convince anyone I'm not addicted, because they see the fact that you do it, as proof of addiction. "If you weren't addicted, you'd stop." And then, the argument goes, anything I say to the contrary is just me justifying one's horrible, horrible "psychological addiction."

Having been physically addicted to caffeine, I scoff wholeheartedly on that there concept!

I think thats an excuse for being weak of will. Otherwise, you can start to paint it where any desire is a "psychological addiction." I mean get over yourselves and either do something or not, but don't go blaming mysterious brain disorders for the fact that you do something you don't think is entirely beneficial to you. I know what smoking does, and yes I've done it anyway, so what? Not addiction, goddammit!

I mean imagine if someone - everyone, in fact - kept insisting you were addicted to sex. Now, you like sex. And you're not gonna stop. But how then can you prove them wrong? When they're fingstupid? See I don't want to commit myself to anything like "smoker" or "non smoker," any more than I want to be a "drinker" or "teetotaller," or a "guy who has sex" versus a "guy who has sworn abstinance for all eternity." I don't feel the need to label myself that way or limit, for no real reason, all future activity.

It's annoying.
Ashmoria
25-06-2004, 05:25
how long have you quit smoking for and why did you start again?

ive never been a smoker and i understand that people enjoy smoking but why would you go back to a habit that is bad for you?

most people who smoke start out with a casual habit then find that they end up smoking 20- 40 cigs/day and that they cant cut back. they are unable to just smoke 2 cigs a day. they are unable to smoke only one day a week. no matter what they tell themselves about their habit, they consume way more cigs than they would if they thought about it and rationally decided how much smoking to do.

if that doesnt describe you, you are one of the lucky few. my neice only smokes a few cigs a day and can go days without. my sister smokes 1-2 packs each day and will probably die with a cig in her hand
Colodia
25-06-2004, 05:25
it's probably the tobacco (sp) talking
Santa Barbara
25-06-2004, 05:34
Ash, you're right, I must be one of the lucky few. As to why I smoke if it's bad for me, well I do lots of things that are bad for me, including NS, I'm just a self destructive rebel like that. :)

Not really, and I'm not aiming for that 'role' either in case anyone wondered. It's just an enjoyable little habit. It's not for everyone, just as coffee isn't, or any such recreational drug.
BackwoodsSquatches
25-06-2004, 05:37
Becuase Nicotene is the most addictive substances on the planet.
Cold Hard Bitch
25-06-2004, 05:39
Becuase Nicotene is the most addictive substances on the planet.


Not as addictive as chocolate. :lol:
Ashmoria
25-06-2004, 05:39
i firmly believe in everyones right to have whatever bad habits they want to have that dont hurt other people. i think we should stop this whole smoking prohibition movement.

the anti bad habit people seem to think that if we just gave up our habits we would live forever.

i say do as you please just dont whine if it kills you in the end.
BackwoodsSquatches
25-06-2004, 05:39
Becuase Nicotene is the most addictive substances on the planet.


Not as addictive as chocolate. :lol:

Ive never nearly strangled anyone over chocolate.
Ashmoria
25-06-2004, 05:41
Becuase Nicotene is the most addictive substances on the planet.


Not as addictive as chocolate. :lol:

Ive never nearly strangled anyone over chocolate.

i have
Cold Hard Bitch
25-06-2004, 05:41
i firmly believe in everyones right to have whatever bad habits they want to have that dont hurt other people. i think we should stop this whole smoking prohibition movement.

the anti bad habit people seem to think that if we just gave up our habits we would live forever.

i say do as you please just dont whine if it kills you in the end.


See if you still stand by that if someone you care about is doing something harmful to themselves, That does hurt.
Santa Barbara
25-06-2004, 05:41
I've never nearly strangled anyone for anything...

I wouldn't complain when my bad habits kill me... actually, I should start a betting pool on which one will be the kicker. I stand to gain a lot that way, even if I have to die for it. Meh!
Cold Hard Bitch
25-06-2004, 05:41
Becuase Nicotene is the most addictive substances on the planet.


Not as addictive as chocolate. :lol:

Ive never nearly strangled anyone over chocolate.

i have


HAHAHA!!! I have wanted to!
The Sadistic Skinhead
25-06-2004, 05:42
My smoking is'nt rally addiciton mines through habit.
Colodia
25-06-2004, 05:42
Becuase Nicotene is the most addictive substances on the planet.


Not as addictive as chocolate. :lol:

Ive never nearly strangled anyone over chocolate.

i have


HAHAHA!!! I have wanted to!

In Soviet Russia, chocolate kills for you
In Capatilist America, you kill for chocolate
The Sadistic Skinhead
25-06-2004, 05:42
My smoking isn't addiciton mines through habit.
Opal Isle
25-06-2004, 05:42
i firmly believe in everyones right to have whatever bad habits they want to have that dont hurt other people. i think we should stop this whole smoking prohibition movement.

the anti bad habit people seem to think that if we just gave up our habits we would live forever.

i say do as you please just dont whine if it kills you in the end.

But here is the paradox...all these anti-bad-habit people have a bad habit of squishing people's rights...how is it your right to squish their right to squish the rights of other bad-habitters? In fact, if all bad habits were banned, we'd have no anti-bad-habitters, or would we?
Ashmoria
25-06-2004, 05:45
In Soviet Russia, chocolate kills for you
In Capatilist America, you kill for chocolate

ohmygod if we went anarchic who would labor in sun/factories/stores to provide me with chocolate???
Ish-mael
25-06-2004, 06:34
i firmly believe in everyones right to have whatever bad habits they want to have that dont hurt other people. i think we should stop this whole smoking prohibition movement.

the anti bad habit people seem to think that if we just gave up our habits we would live forever.

i say do as you please just dont whine if it kills you in the end.

But here is the paradox...all these anti-bad-habit people have a bad habit of squishing people's rights...how is it your right to squish their right to squish the rights of other bad-habitters? In fact, if all bad habits were banned, we'd have no anti-bad-habitters, or would we?
Ok, here's the thing: I'm not an anti-smoking extremist. I think it is a nasty, filthy habit, but I too have been known to partake on occasion.

But smoking is not a habit that doesn't hurt others. Setting aside the second-hand smoke being bad for your health thing (which you could probably debate), smoking really lowers the quality of life of the people around you. If you wanna smoke out in the open air, where the smoke can drift away and not bother anyone, I am all for it. But in enclosed spaces...

I live in NYC, and I think the smoking ban in bars is fantastic. At last I can see the people I'm talking to, breathe, go home not smelling like an ashtray, and wake up in the morning not tasting like one. I've talked to a lot of smokers here who feel the same way (thought the feeling certainly isn't universal).

So at least to that extent, I'm glad they've restricted smoking. But what you do outside, or in your own home... hell, puff away.
BLARGistania
25-06-2004, 06:40
I'm inclined to agree. I myself smoke occasionally, but I don't have constant urges to run out and buy a pack then smoke the whole thing in one go. I don't even have urges to go an smoke one, I just smoke when I feel like doing it, nothing compels me to smoke. Same with alcohol. I also have several friends exactly like that. I think you're right, I also think you're not addicted.