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Did anyone one else hear the story about our subhuman Vice President cussing at a Senator this way during a Senate photographing? I believe he said it cause Leahy was exposing Cheneys war profiteering with Halliburton--I think its time the Democrats in the Senate should start disrupting all Senate Business until Bush apologizes to America for 911--Democrats in the House must do this too--practice civil disobedience and bring all govt to a grinding halt until this administrattion is held accountable-its time for some controlled violence in congress. No more business as usaul--DEMS GROW A SACK

No, and I can't seem to find any mention of it either.

No, and I can't seem to find any mention of it either.they said it on marty kaplans show on air america and people are talken about it in the chats--or rather fighting about it I should say

Here's the mentions you were looking for Serengarve. Oddly enough :roll: I couldn't find it on Fox News' website.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040625/pl_nm/campaign_obscenity_dc_3

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/24/cheney.leahy/index.html

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040624_1662.html

It was disgraceful when Bush cursed at a reporter during the campaign and its moreso now that Cheney is vice president of our country. That type of language would get my son in trouble. Remember when Limbaugh kept saying that Clinton made it tougher for parents to raise their children because they were going to be faced with questions about his affair with Lewinsky? If they don't come out with the same type of revulsion about using such profanity then they can be rightfully branded as being hypocrites. It makes it a lot harder to tell my son that he can't say such vulgar terms when he can say right back that the Vice President of the United States does it. The party of family values indeed.

I've heard this on The Fox Report which is on Fox News at 7 just before O'Reilly!

That Vermont Senator Brushed it off! How is saying this any different then when John Kerry Said the F word during the early primaries?

Leahy shouldve smashed him in the face with his fist

Leahy shouldve smashed him in the face with his fist

lol then he would've been up on assault charges not to mention Secret Service would've wrestled him to the ground! LOL

I've heard this on The Fox Report which is on Fox News at 7 just before O'Reilly!

That Vermont Senator Brushed it off! How is saying this any different then when John Kerry Said the F word during the early primaries?

It's not any different. Kerry was wrong to say it then and Cheney is just as wrong to say it now. The only difference lies in the fact that Bush/Cheney have billed themselves as the uber-moral conservative ticket and religious people shouldn't use words like that. I don't.

I've heard this on The Fox Report which is on Fox News at 7 just before O'Reilly!

That Vermont Senator Brushed it off! How is saying this any different then when John Kerry Said the F word during the early primaries?

I stand corrected then about Fox not reporting it.

In terms of actual usage, there is no difference. Its disgusting speech no matter who uses the actual word. In terms of indignation, there is a huge difference since the Republican Party is the one that sputters to anyone within earshot that they are the party of family values. This goes against the grain of the very thing they state to believe in. Is the Republican platform actually "Do as I say, not as I do?"

Yeah, haha it's been on the news. Good 'old Cheney told him to F- Off ..lol I think it's funny.. Proves Cheney is on the edge. Although in fairness, they are only human beings, many people use the F word. Not me personally, I have kids.. but it's not earth shaking or any thing. I thought it was funny at best.

I've heard this on The Fox Report which is on Fox News at 7 just before O'Reilly!

That Vermont Senator Brushed it off! How is saying this any different then when John Kerry Said the F word during the early primaries?

It's not any different. Kerry was wrong to say it then and Cheney is just as wrong to say it now. The only difference lies in the fact that Bush/Cheney have billed themselves as the uber-moral conservative ticket and religious people shouldn't use words like that. I don't.

In this case I have to agree with you Berkylvania

Yeah, haha it's been on the news. Good 'old Cheney told him to F- Off ..lol I think it's funny.. Proves Cheney is on the edge. Although in fairness, they are only human beings, many people use the F word. Not me personally, I have kids.. but it's not earh shaking or any thing. I thought it was funny at best.

Do you remember the incident where Bush went on a rant about a reporter who happened to be bilingual and ask Bush a question in English and then asked another political figure a question in French? I thought Bush's response to that was a riot.

Yeah, haha it's been on the news. Good 'old Cheney told him to F- Off ..lol I think it's funny.. Proves Cheney is on the edge. Although in fairness, they are only human beings, many people use the F word. Not me personally, I have kids.. but it's not earth shaking or any thing. I thought it was funny at best.

WOW! Never thought I would be agreeing with Stephistan! But I am here :)

Yeah, haha it's been on the news. Good 'old Cheney told him to F- Off ..lol I think it's funny.. Proves Cheney is on the edge. Although in fairness, they are only human beings, many people use the F word. Not me personally, I have kids.. but it's not earh shaking or any thing. I thought it was funny at best.

Do you remember the incident where Bush went on a rant about a reporter who happened to be bilingual and ask Bush a question in English and then asked another political figure a question in French? I thought Bush's response to that was a riot.

Oh no, I did not, please tell?

Leahy shouldve smashed him in the face with his fist

lol then he would've been up on assault charges not to mention Secret Service would've wrestled him to the ground! LOLI know but its time for Democrats in congress to ally with the people in the streets and practice civil disobedeince in the halls of congress until republicans do their job and hold impeachment hearings against Bush and if that means shutting down all govt business with endless chantings and blocking Bills from passing with their bodies then so be it--NO JUSTICE NO PEACE-- There will be NO UNITY as long as Bush is in office-Hes the most dangerous terrorist in the world today and he must be removed from office before he sponsores another terrorist attack in NYC

Well, frankly, it doesn't bother me too much, although that's probably because I'm inured to it now. I would have to agree with Stephistan here too-they're people, however much it may seem they're not, and we allegedly have freedom of speech here. As far as family values, I hear it in my family all the time, so there I would say that it does not constitute a family value, and if it does, I don't particularly care.

I know but its time for Democrats in congress to ally with the people in the streets and practice civil disobedeince in the halls of congress until republicans do their job and hold impeachment hearings against Bush and if that means shutting down all govt business with endless chantings and blocking Bills from passing with their bodies then so be it--NO JUSTICE NO PEACE-- There will be NO UNITY as long as Bush is in office-Hes the most dangerous terrorist in the world today and he must be removed from office before he sponsores another terrorist attack in NYC

that sort of violence only works in the taiwanese parliment

looks like cheney picked a fight with leahy and leahy was the gentleman. good for him! he must be hitting a nerve with his haliburton questions.

Oh no, I did not, please tell?

Well, one dark and stormy joint press conference back in the good old days of 2002, a cranky Dubbya lashed out at NBC's David Gregory. They were in Paris, mind you, and the conference was between Dubby and Chirac (remember when they sort of got along...yeah, me neither). Gregory asked Bush in English why there were strong anti-Bush sentiments in Europe. He then asked Chirac in French if he would care to comment on it. Dubbya got huffy and said, "Very good...the guy memorizes four words and plays like he's an intercontinental." Gregory shot back, "I can go on." Dubby replied, "I'm impressed-muy bueno." He then said, "Now I'm literate in two languages."

Cool, calm and collected. That's mah Bush!

Well, frankly, it doesn't bother me too much, although that's probably because I'm inured to it now. I would have to agree with Stephistan here too-they're people, however much it may seem they're not, and we allegedly have freedom of speech here. As far as family values, I hear it in my family all the time, so there I would say that it does not constitute a family value, and if it does, I don't particularly care.I think Cheney saying this is a declaration of open warfare by republicans against Americans who believe in the rule of law--its like hes saying he knows hes breaking the law and what are we gonna do about it--I say Dems must hit back with all they got

I know but its time for Democrats in congress to ally with the people in the streets and practice civil disobedeince in the halls of congress until republicans do their job and hold impeachment hearings against Bush and if that means shutting down all govt business with endless chantings and blocking Bills from passing with their bodies then so be it--NO JUSTICE NO PEACE-- There will be NO UNITY as long as Bush is in office-Hes the most dangerous terrorist in the world today and he must be removed from office before he sponsores another terrorist attack in NYC

that sort of violence only works in the taiwanese parliment

looks like cheney picked a fight with leahy and leahy was the gentleman. good for him! he must be hitting a nerve with his haliburton questions.a gentleman woulda horsewhipped Cheney

Oh no, I did not, please tell?

Well, one dark and stormy joint press conference back in the good old days of 2002, a cranky Dubbya lashed out at NBC's David Gregory. They were in Paris, mind you, and the conference was between Dubby and Chirac (remember when they sort of got along...yeah, me neither). Gregory asked Bush in English why there were strong anti-Bush sentiments in Europe. He then asked Chirac in French if he would care to comment on it. Dubbya got huffy and said, "Very good...the guy memorizes four words and plays like he's an intercontinental." Gregory shot back, "I can go on." Dubby replied, "I'm impressed-muy bueno." He then said, "Now I'm literate in two languages."

Cool, calm and collected. That's mah Bush!

Haha that's hysterical..lol Keeping in mind I'm Canadian and we do EVERYTHING in French & English in this country..lol Thanks Berk. :)

Haha that's hysterical..lol Keeping in mind I'm Canadian and we do EVERYTHING in French & English in this country..lol Thanks Berk. :)

Yeah, I thought you'd enjoy that, given your Canadianosity. Always happy to share with the mods, Stephi. :D

Haha that's hysterical..lol Keeping in mind I'm Canadian and we do EVERYTHING in French & English in this country..lol Thanks Berk. :)

Yeah, I thought you'd enjoy that, given your Canadianosity. Always happy to share with the mods, Stephi. :D

I admit i enjoyed it too!

i think bush has been a great president, and the 9/11 attacks were simply the fault of the ists and clinton, who might have prevented them. no way should bush have to apologize!

i think bush has been a great president, and the 9/11 attacks were simply the fault of the ists and clinton, who might have prevented them. no way should bush have to apologize!

Well, good on you for having an opinion, I suppose, but how does 9/11 have anything to do with Cheney having a potty mouth? :?:

I'm a huge liberal, and I never thought I would defend Cheney, but here it is:

I believe in absolute freedom of speech. I am completely against the idea of "decorum" or "decency," especially in our elected officials. I have been waiting for the day when one elected official would curse at another openly, and unfortunately, Cheney was the first to do it. It was extremely funny, and a refreshing change of pace towards an even more combative politcal climate (Which I support...) No words are disgusting. You might think the ideas they represent are (despite it being the most natural thing possible... it's in our instinct.), but words are not. Now, I asterik a single letter in my posts on words some people consider disgusting here so as to be extra-careful not to run afoul of the moderators... I use a lot in some of my RPs. Also, not to be pedantic, but he said, "Go f*ck yourself" and not "f*ck off." If you can attack Cheney on anything, it's being a hypocrite. But let's all remember: he comes from the Ken Lay wing of the Republican party, not the Jerry Falwell wing.


Off the *shudders* defence of Cheney:

Also, "unity" is a flawed and useless concept. It means nothing, and has been an excuse throughout history for abuse of powers.

Also, calling Bush a terrorist isn't accurate... nor is calling Osama Bin Laden one accurate. Bush is a poor, idiotic, nigh-insane (if not insane) president, Bin Laden is a mass murderer. I refer you, on the second point, to an editorial Fareed Zakaria wrote a few months ago. His point was, conventional terrorists try to scare people while causing minimal deaths... Bin Laden just wants to kill as many "infidels" as possible.

i think bush has been a great president, and the 9/11 attacks were simply the fault of the ists and clinton, who might have prevented them. no way should bush have to apologize!

NEWS FLASH! Clinton had not been president for 8 months when 9/11 happened. Bush had access to every thing Clinton knew when he left office. Further, 9/11 was no one's fault but OBL.. What is in true dispute was how 9/11 was handled after.. War on terror, great, get those Al Qaeda SOB's.. the problem is Bush dropped the ball and went after Iraq instead.

i think bush has been a great president, and the 9/11 attacks were simply the fault of the ists and clinton, who might have prevented them. no way should bush have to apologize!

Well, good on you for having an opinion, I suppose, but how does 9/11 have anything to do with Cheney having a potty mouth? :?:

Stole the words from my mouth Steph! I was thinking that but had to check on another thread! Thanks for posting it for me :wink:

Stephistan, quite correct. Although I supported removing Saddam from power, Bush screwed it up... either fund a rebellion, or plan for the aftermath of the war. When people ask me my opinion (which they usually incorrectly take for granted, assuming from my other views) I say "I supported 'a' war against Iraq, not Bush's war against Iraq."

Also, the last words Clinton said to Bush on January 20th, 2001 were a warning about Osama.

Feline, I understand your dilemma. True freedom certainly does make for strange bedfellows, eh? :D

It wasn't so much the fact that Cheney dropped the F-bomb and it certainly wouldn't have influenced me one way or another in and of itself. I just found the incident funny and indicitive of his mindset and situation. Hasseled on all sides and most likely guilty at sin, he loses his cool and makes a little bit of a mess for all those Conservative Right-Wing Christians who believe in the Bush/Cheney morality play that is their campaign. While he may not come from that camp, he certainly has no problems rising to prominence on their support and this sort of illustrates the true respect he has for their beliefs.

Wasn't this Leahy guy also the one that went Indepent thus causing a, well then a 50-49-1 in the senate before the 2002 elections made it what it is right now?

Couldn't that have something to do with it?

No... that was Jeffords. Leahy's a dem, through and through.

Well, frankly, it doesn't bother me too much, although that's probably because I'm inured to it now. I would have to agree with Stephistan here too-they're people, however much it may seem they're not, and we allegedly have freedom of speech here. As far as family values, I hear it in my family all the time, so there I would say that it does not constitute a family value, and if it does, I don't particularly care.I think Cheney saying this is a declaration of open warfare by republicans against Americans who believe in the rule of law--its like hes saying he knows hes breaking the law and what are we gonna do about it--I say Dems must hit back with all they got

With all due respect, what are you talking about? He says one word, and it's open war by the GOP against America? The last I checked, it wasn't illegal to say f***, except of course here. But this isn't America either-it's the Internet, and more specifically Max Barry's site, where he's in charge.

No... that was Jeffords. Leahy's a dem, through and through.

oh! That's right, couldn't remember who did what when where why and how!

Technically, it's against Senate ethics rules... personally, I find that particular rule, and any rule or law limiting freedom of speech, highly unethical.

i think bush has been a great president, and the 9/11 attacks were simply the fault of the ists and clinton, who might have prevented them. no way should bush have to apologize!its already been proved by a FBI agent Sibod Edmonds that Bush had prior knowledge that al queda would attack us with planes and he ALLOWED it

Technically, it's against Senate ethics rules... personally, I find that particular rule, and any rule or law limiting freedom of speech, highly unethical.

This is not a huge deal, so the guy told him to F- off.. so what.. boys will be boys ;)

Technically, it's against Senate ethics rules... personally, I find that particular rule, and any rule or law limiting freedom of speech, highly unethical.

This is not a huge deal, so the guy told him to F- off.. so what.. boys will be boys ;)

giggles! I wish I said that to my ex-bf a few hours ago.

I know one way that could have maybe minimized the casualties of 9/11, before 9/11 even happened some organization ( cant remember who) told Logan International Airport that it couldnt hold passengers and not let them on if 1. They paid for for their tickets in cash, 2. They had no luggage, 3. they arrived late for the flight. All of the hijackers fitted in the requirements above and if these rules were stripped from LIA, some of the attacks wouldnt have happened.

to those who still think Bush didnt know about 911:

Ashcroft Sued in Sibel Edmonds Case
The Washington-based watchdog group Project on Government Oversight sued Attorney General John Ashcroft yesterday for classifying previously public documents pertaining to the case of Sibel Edmonds. Edmonds is the former FBI translator who was hired after the 9/11 attacks. She has publicly said on Democracy Now and other news programs the US had information before Sept. 11, 2001 that indicated Al Qaeda was planning an attack on the US using planes. The government has been attempting to bar Edmonds from testifying in a lawsuit related to the 9/11 attacks. In addition to attempting to put a gag order on Edmonds, Ashcroft recently reclassified information that had been previously given to Congress in public. The suit filed yesterday claims Ashcroft's move to reclassify is illegal and unconstitutional

This is not a huge deal, so the guy told him to F- off.. so what.. boys will be boys ;)

Yeah, but these aren't boys. These are men. Big, important, influential men who should know better. I know it will not happen, but I sort of hope it makes the Conservative Christians sit up and take notice that the Bush/Cheney administration no more respects or protects their beliefs than any other political candidate jockeying for a vote.

I know one way that could have maybe minimized the casualties of 9/11, before 9/11 even happened some organization ( cant remember who) told Logan International Airport that it couldnt hold passengers and not let them on if 1. They paid for for their tickets in cash, 2. They had no luggage, 3. they arrived late for the flight. All of the hijackers fitted in the requirements above and if these rules were stripped from LIA, some of the attacks wouldnt have happened.

I've said it once and I'll say it again and again and again.. no one is to blame for 9/11 except the terrorists. That's it, that's all!

I know one way that could have maybe minimized the casualties of 9/11, before 9/11 even happened some organization ( cant remember who) told Logan International Airport that it couldnt hold passengers and not let them on if 1. They paid for for their tickets in cash, 2. They had no luggage, 3. they arrived late for the flight. All of the hijackers fitted in the requirements above and if these rules were stripped from LIA, some of the attacks wouldnt have happened.

I've said it once and I'll say it again and again and again.. no one is to blame for 9/11 except the terrorists. That's it, that's all!what about a President knowing about it and doing nothing to stop it?

I am not blaming anyone I am simply stating this could have maybe ( a big maybe) could have saved some lives.

I am not blaming anyone I am simply stating this could have maybe ( a big maybe) could have saved some lives.so could Bush acting upon warnings

What does any of this have to do with Cheney and F-bombs!?!

This is not a huge deal, so the guy told him to F- off.. so what.. boys will be boys ;)

Yeah, but these aren't boys. These are men. Big, important, influential men who should know better. I know it will not happen, but I sort of hope it makes the Conservative Christians sit up and take notice that the Bush/Cheney administration no more respects or protects their beliefs than any other political candidate jockeying for a vote.

I hear you Berk and almost always agree with every thing you say.. you know this. However, if telling some one to "F- Off" was the worse thing from this administration I could live with it. I feel more compelled to address and engage on the issues, the bad policy.. that is their failure, not telling another man to F- off. I can live with it. I wish that was the worse thing Mr. Cheney had done to your fine country. Ya know. :idea:

If it comes out that Bush knew the date and time and location I believe fault should land on his shoulders.

If it comes out that Bush knew the date and time and location I believe fault should land on his shoulders.ok

If it comes out that Bush knew the date and time and location I believe fault should land on his shoulders.

I agree with this!

what about a President knowing about it and doing nothing to stop it?

You do realize that most liberals here run away from you like the plague? Bush did now know about it. Show me proof. And if you believe that PDB could've prevented it then tell me what action you would take if you were Bush. And i bet you would acuse Bush of being the SS and like the Nazis if he took any action before 9-11.

Dangnabbit!!! There are umpteen threads on this board about who knew what, when and what they should have done.

Can't we have just one thread devoted to Cheney Who Kisses His Mother With That Mouth?

I hear you Berk and almost always agree with every thing you say.. you know this. However, if telling some one to "F- Off" was the worse thing from this administration I could live with it. I feel more compelled to address and engage on the issues, the bad policy.. that is their failure, not telling another man to F- off. I can live with it. I wish that was the worse thing Mr. Cheney had done to your fine country. Ya know. :idea:

Oh, I know, Steph. It's just that these are the same people who are so fond of telling my friends that they are somehow "less than" because they're gay or had an abortion or don't attend a popular church. All because they claim some ellusive moral superiority because of their purported beliefs. Not only do they attack my friends, but they try and blame their bile on my God and disenfranchise me from that as well. So, when I catch them a little bit of moral duplicity like this, I enjoy revelling in it a bit. Is that wrong of me? Probably. Am I racking up a karmic debtload by taking a certain amount of glee in it? Almost certainly. But it's still satisfying to hold the mirror up to them and make sure everyone knows just how "deep" their beliefs really are.

I hear you Berk and almost always agree with every thing you say.. you know this. However, if telling some one to "F- Off" was the worse thing from this administration I could live with it. I feel more compelled to address and engage on the issues, the bad policy.. that is their failure, not telling another man to F- off. I can live with it. I wish that was the worse thing Mr. Cheney had done to your fine country. Ya know. :idea:

Oh, I know, Steph. It's just that these are the same people who are so fond of telling my friends that they are somehow "less than" because they're gay or had an abortion or don't attend a popular church. All because they claim some ellusive moral superiority because of their purported beliefs. Not only do they attack my friends, but they try and blame their bile on my God and disenfranchise me from that as well. So, when I catch them a little bit of moral duplicity like this, I enjoy revelling in it a bit. Is that wrong of me? Probably. Am I racking up a karmic debtload by taking a certain amount of glee in it? Almost certainly. But it's still satisfying to hold the mirror up to them and make sure everyone knows just how "deep" their beliefs really are.

I will wait for MKULTRA to answer my question

This is what the Bush Administartion has come to.
This is an example of the corruption, and lies that they have become so fond of spinning.

Cheney COULD have taken the opportunity to defend himself against anyone who accused him of War Profiteering, and presented everyone with some valid information to present his case.

Instead, he got caught in a lie, or rather, hadf the truth shoved in his face, and instaed of being a professional, and an gentleman, he lashed out with curses.

You see....he COULDNT defend hinmself verbaly from Leahy's acusations, becuase ALL OF THEM WERE TRUE.

This pissed Cheney off, and he lashed out.

This administartion will continue to lie to the american people, and profit from killing thousands, UNTIL WE STOP THEM.


Kerry 04.

This is what the Bush Administartion has come to.
This is an example of the corruption, and lies that they have become so fond of spinning.

Cheney COULD have taken the opportunity to defend himself against anyone who accused him of War Profiteering, and presented everyone with some valid information to present his case.

Instead, he got caught in a lie, or rather, hadf the truth shoved in his face, and instaed of being a professional, and an gentleman, he lashed out with curses.

You see....he COULDNT defend hinmself verbaly from Leahy's acusations, becuase ALL OF THEM WERE TRUE.

This pissed Cheney off, and he lashed out.

This administartion will continue to lie to the american people, and profit from killing thousands, UNTIL WE STOP THEM.


Kerry 04.

This is what the Bush Administartion has come to.
This is an example of the corruption, and lies that they have become so fond of spinning.

Cheney COULD have taken the opportunity to defend himself against anyone who accused him of War Profiteering, and presented everyone with some valid information to present his case.

Instead, he got caught in a lie, or rather, hadf the truth shoved in his face, and instaed of being a professional, and an gentleman, he lashed out with curses.

You see....he COULDNT defend hinmself verbaly from Leahy's acusations, becuase ALL OF THEM WERE TRUE.

This pissed Cheney off, and he lashed out.

This administartion will continue to lie to the american people, and profit from killing thousands, UNTIL WE STOP THEM.


Kerry 04.

This is what the Bush Administartion has come to.
This is an example of the corruption, and lies that they have become so fond of spinning.

Cheney COULD have taken the opportunity to defend himself against anyone who accused him of War Profiteering, and presented everyone with some valid information to present his case.

Instead, he got caught in a lie, or rather, hadf the truth shoved in his face, and instaed of being a professional, and an gentleman, he lashed out with curses.

You see....he COULDNT defend hinmself verbaly from Leahy's acusations, becuase ALL OF THEM WERE TRUE.

This pissed Cheney off, and he lashed out.

This administartion will continue to lie to the american people, and profit from killing thousands, UNTIL WE STOP THEM.


Kerry 04.

what about a President knowing about it and doing nothing to stop it?

You do realize that most liberals here run away from you like the plague? Bush did now know about it. Show me proof. And if you believe that PDB could've prevented it then tell me what action you would take if you were Bush. And i bet you would acuse Bush of being the SS and like the Nazis if he took any action before 9-11.I just posted an article earlier by the FBI translator who can prove that Bush knew beforehand--its not my fault if some libs are too cowardly to follow up on that story

Bah! Swearing!
You Americans are so repressive.

....However, if it gets Cheney into trouble, I am glad.

Bah! Swearing!
You Americans are so repressive.

....However, if it gets Cheney into trouble, I am glad.me2--I hope they put it in political ads

what about a President knowing about it and doing nothing to stop it?

You do realize that most liberals here run away from you like the plague? Bush did now know about it. Show me proof. And if you believe that PDB could've prevented it then tell me what action you would take if you were Bush. And i bet you would acuse Bush of being the SS and like the Nazis if he took any action before 9-11.I just posted an article earlier by the FBI translator who can prove that Bush knew beforehand--its not my fault if some libs are too cowardly to follow up on that story

give me the URL please. I bet if Bush took any actions you would call him a Nazi as you did when he took the actions that would prevent such acts with the Patriot Act.

Bah! Swearing!
You Americans are so repressive.

....However, if it gets Cheney into trouble, I am glad.me2--I hope they put it in political ads

MKULTRA, I wouldn't wish that if I were you. If they use it in a political ad, then they will use Kerry's F bomb in their own Campaign ads! Turn about is fair play!

John Kerry's base is proud of his "f-bomb." George W. Bush has two bases: The "Ken Lays" and the "Jerry Falwells." The Ken Lays don't care, the Jerry Falwells are now... well... worried.

OH MY ****ING GAWD PEOPLE! IT'S A BLOODY CURSE WORD! PEOPLE DO IT ALL THE TIME IN OUR FREEWAYS AND WHEN THEIR FRIES ARE COLD! I DON'T SEE THEM GETTING IN TROUBLE!

Sorry bout that, even though I'm against the Bush/Cheny administration, I think this is just friggin pathetic to go against


really guys, be a man...and think of REASONABLE reasons why Bush/Cheney should be OUT!

Colodia, no one's saying that this is a reason to get rid of Bush/Cheney in and of itself...well, maybe TRA, but you know how that is. However, it's indicitive of fractures in the media smoke screen this administration has been throwing up since day one.

Plus, it just plain makes me giggle.

I think Fox News's Neil Cavuto best said it when there was a controversy over Kerry saying the same 4 letter word when refering to Rush.

Neil said that he doesn't care and likes it when people are blunt like that. He said that more politicians could be like that. I add that he is a Republican and made that comment defending Kerry. I must say Neil is quite right.

I thought it was a bit out of taste for the Vice President, but he is only human.

Personally; I don't care he used the F word.

Ever watch C-Span *SNNNORRREEEE*

Congress is pretty tame when compared to the other goverments!

Ever watch Parlament go at it?

I think it's South Korea that gets into fist fights!

:D

IDF: Exactly my opinion, except reversed... I'm a democrat.
The Black Forrest: C-SPAN is not boring! Although, I think we should have a more combative political atmosphere, and while watching Congress is not boring, watching Parliament (I assume you mean the British House of Commons) is more exciting, I must concede.

Well, IDF, first off using swears on the floor of the Senate while it's in session, is against the rules. However, technically, the Senate wasn't in session at the time as this incident occured during "picture day".

Second, Cheney picked a fight and then got nasty when he was bested. While posing for the picture, he turned to Senator Leahy and started snipping about Leahy's harsh words about Cheney's Halliburton war profiteering. Leahy apparently then reminded Cheney that Cheney had once accused Leahy of being a "bad catholic". At this point, Cheney used the *explicative deleted* word. Leahy claims to be shocked by the usage and said, "I think he was just having a bad day."

The trouble I have with this is that Cheney has had no problems with assuming the title of moral superior to rally a conservative voting base, even if he comes from the "Ken Lay" crowd. If he's going to rise to power with that sort of backing, then he better darn well toe that line with no slips. Period. If he's going to use his position of authority to pass moral judgements on issues, he had better be sure his position is unassailable, otherwise he risks looking like a hypocrite and a user.

It's one thing to exchange harsh words in the heat of political discussion. Just look at English Parlement. That can perhaps, PERHAPS, be excused. However, to blatantly pick the fight out of nowhere and then act like that shows a middle-school mentality that should not be present in the leaders of one of the most powerful nations in the world. It is doubly offensive that he has not offered an apology and just expects to either ignore it or get away with it. This shows he doesn't even feel he did anything wrong in using that language.

what about a President knowing about it and doing nothing to stop it?

You do realize that most liberals here run away from you like the plague? Bush did now know about it. Show me proof. And if you believe that PDB could've prevented it then tell me what action you would take if you were Bush. And i bet you would acuse Bush of being the SS and like the Nazis if he took any action before 9-11.I just posted an article earlier by the FBI translator who can prove that Bush knew beforehand--its not my fault if some libs are too cowardly to follow up on that story

give me the URL please. I bet if Bush took any actions you would call him a Nazi as you did when he took the actions that would prevent such acts with the Patriot Act.www.democracynow.org---also I would not have opposed any President stopping a terrorist attack (thats just insane)

what about a President knowing about it and doing nothing to stop it?

You do realize that most liberals here run away from you like the plague? Bush did now know about it. Show me proof. And if you believe that PDB could've prevented it then tell me what action you would take if you were Bush. And i bet you would acuse Bush of being the SS and like the Nazis if he took any action before 9-11.I just posted an article earlier by the FBI translator who can prove that Bush knew beforehand--its not my fault if some libs are too cowardly to follow up on that story

give me the URL please. I bet if Bush took any actions you would call him a Nazi as you did when he took the actions that would prevent such acts with the Patriot Act.www.democracynow.org---also I would not have opposed any President stopping a terrorist attack (thats just insane)

try a nonbiased website. That site would be the same as me using Limbaugh as a source. I want you to tell me what Bush could've done to prevent it.

what about a President knowing about it and doing nothing to stop it?

You do realize that most liberals here run away from you like the plague? Bush did now know about it. Show me proof. And if you believe that PDB could've prevented it then tell me what action you would take if you were Bush. And i bet you would acuse Bush of being the SS and like the Nazis if he took any action before 9-11.I just posted an article earlier by the FBI translator who can prove that Bush knew beforehand--its not my fault if some libs are too cowardly to follow up on that story

give me the URL please. I bet if Bush took any actions you would call him a Nazi as you did when he took the actions that would prevent such acts with the Patriot Act.www.democracynow.org---also I would not have opposed any President stopping a terrorist attack (thats just insane)

try a nonbiased website. That site would be the same as me using Limbaugh as a source. I want you to tell me what Bush could've done to prevent it.

what about a President knowing about it and doing nothing to stop it?

You do realize that most liberals here run away from you like the plague? Bush did now know about it. Show me proof. And if you believe that PDB could've prevented it then tell me what action you would take if you were Bush. And i bet you would acuse Bush of being the SS and like the Nazis if he took any action before 9-11.I just posted an article earlier by the FBI translator who can prove that Bush knew beforehand--its not my fault if some libs are too cowardly to follow up on that story

give me the URL please. I bet if Bush took any actions you would call him a Nazi as you did when he took the actions that would prevent such acts with the Patriot Act.www.democracynow.org---also I would not have opposed any President stopping a terrorist attack (thats just insane)

try a nonbiased website. That site would be the same as me using Limbaugh as a source. I want you to tell me what Bush could've done to prevent it.let NORAD fly

Berkylvania: As said before, I agree with IDF. It doesn't matter if it is or isn't against senate rules, even while it is in session. First of all, it shouldn't be a rule. Second of all, they can't kick you out of your seat, so it's all good.

Yes, Cheney is a hypocrite. But so are many politicians. Both sides pander to people to get votes. There's nothing wrong with that. There's something wrong with being a hypocrite, but not pandering.

I don't find f*ck offensive... actually, most people don't. Also, it's not a middle-school mentality. They were acting as two private citizens- there is no law prohibiting people from arguing over politics. People who know eachother talk to each other about politics all the time.

try a nonbiased website.

I am really impressed that you could type so much with broken fingers. I typed "Sibel Edmonds" into Google and got these sites:

http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/25/60minutes/main526954.shtml
http://www.iht.com/articles/520910.html
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/13/61/200406241146.4a0f39f2.html

I'm sure if you'd been able to type, you would have done the minimal amount of work yourself.

That site would be the same as me using Limbaugh as a source.

I look forward to reading the book, "Democracy Now is a big, fat, idiot". Perhaps you would be so kind as to point out something on Democracy Now that is a blatant falsehood, as Al Franked did many times over for Rush Limbaugh? (Two examples, neither involving opinion at all: what Rush's draft exemption was for, and how much forest land there was in the US at its founding.)

Otherwise, you're just lazily slandering a site.

I want you to tell me what Bush could've done to prevent it.

If I were to say to you "Hart-Rudman Commission" (http://www.nssg.gov/), would you have any idea what I was talking about? And if you don't, why should anyone take you seriously?

You conservative bitches. Let the man say as he pleases, I can't believe anyone could get so hyped up over a word.