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I'd vote for Bush if....

Opal Isle
24-06-2004, 09:35
If I knew that there would be nothing to learn in science, no foreign politics to mess with, and homosexuals would be dissappearing entirely for the next four years, I'd vote for Bush. Oh yes, he'd also have to lower gas prices, and I know he can, he just realizes he'd make less money that way.

Anyone else?
The Friendly Facist
24-06-2004, 09:39
Actually there wouldnt be lower gas prices.
Opal Isle
24-06-2004, 09:46
Actually there wouldnt be lower gas prices.

What?...Did you even read my post or just see
...lower gas prices...and initiate a reply? First of, if you'll notice, the first word of the post is if. Second, there is a national reserve of petrol that Bush could open up, but he, his administration, and 41 (I think that's the number) other Senior White House officials have stocks or some sort of tie to the oil industry. Condaleeza Rice has a freakin' oil tanker named after her. How would lowering gas prices benefit this administration? It wouldn't and that is why gas prices will not be lowered and that is why the lowering of gas prices is one of my conditions for voting for Bush. It is no more or less farfetched then the other three issues.
The Friendly Facist
24-06-2004, 10:07
I was just sayin lower gas prices wouldnt benefit them.
Power and War
24-06-2004, 10:08
Bush has my vote
Opal Isle
24-06-2004, 10:09
So you're admitting that you only read ...lower gas prices... :?: :? :?:
Opal Isle
24-06-2004, 10:10
Bush has my vote

Congratulations. That's not what this thread is for.
C4n4d4
24-06-2004, 10:20
i'd vote for bush if he lowered taxes for the poor, raised taxes for the rich, took money out of our military and put it in education, legalized/decriminalized same sex marriages and abortions, admitted to any wrongdoing or collusion during the 9-11 or florida election debacles and made corporate crime carry a larger prison sentence.
Carlemnaria
24-06-2004, 10:22
hmmm let's see ...

ok

i'd vote for bush if:

MY hand was in HIS pocket
AND i was really really mentaly challanged
AND gullible

(and i'd also almost have to have no conscounse at all)

=^^=
.../\...
Opal Isle
24-06-2004, 10:29
hmmm let's see ...

ok

i'd vote for bush if:

MY hand was in HIS pocket
AND i was really really mentaly challanged
AND gullible

(and i'd also almost have to have no conscounse at all)

=^^=
.../\...

Heh...nice...

By the way... www.gop.com is a joke. They attack Kerry's "flip-floppedness"

Maybe if Bush would have been more "flip-floppy" about Iraq, we would have gone in there originally with the reasons that we are using as excuses now instead of the WMD lie. And not only that, it would have been legal and had UN backing. I mean, honestly, is Kerry being a "flip-flopper" or is he merely paying attention to details? I think it's the latter, but GOP isn't going to tell you the details that he is paying attention to; they're just going to tell you he voted one way on one issue then voted another way on the same issue, with no regard to details. GOPs' lack of attention to details is a huge flaw. Details are the most important part of anything and everything.
BackwoodsSquatches
24-06-2004, 10:55
If I were a swan, I'd be gone.
and If I were a train, I'd be late.
and If I were a good man, I would talk with you, more often than I do.
-Roger Waters.
Monkeypimp
24-06-2004, 10:59
I'd vote for Bush if:

-I was American
-He wasn't more shit than the other guy
Khamael
24-06-2004, 11:05
I'd vote for Bush if....
1. My vote came with a full frontal lobotomy at no cost.
2. I had just completed an underground fortress which I could comfortably use as a base to establish dominion over the scattered tribes of "Mad-Max" style post-apocolyptic demi-humans who will be the only survivors of Bush's foreign policies.
3. He were running neck and neck with Chales Manson, Pol Pot, and The Dark Specter Of Death.
4. I knew for a fact that the world would end on November 8th no matter what and nothing mattered anymore.
THE LOST PLANET
24-06-2004, 11:24
I'd vote for Bush if.......................Nah, who am I kidding, I've never voted for a Bush (Elder or Junior, for any office) and I can't think of anything that would make me start.
Monkeypimp
24-06-2004, 11:24
I'd vote for Bush if....
3. He were running neck and neck with Chales Manson, Pol Pot, and The Dark Specter Of Death.
4. I knew for a fact that the world would end on November 8th no matter what and nothing mattered anymore.

Surely you'd vote death in that situation?
Khamael
24-06-2004, 11:45
You're right, I might have to go with the Dark Specter of Death on that one. It'd be a tough choice between "going to kill us all" (Death) and "going to make us wish we were dead and possibly granting that wish accidentally" (Bush)
BackwoodsSquatches
24-06-2004, 11:45
I'd Vote For Bush If....


God himself, suddenly existed, and came to me, specifically, and after a lengthy debate over wether or not he was real, convinced me beyond the shadow of a doubt, that voting for Bush would either:

1. Seal his fate.

2. Save the world from Nuclear Holocuast.

3.Cause the instant demise of every Conservative in office.

4. Ensure that Kerry gets elected.
Rotovia
24-06-2004, 13:12
I would vote for Bush if he promised to off himself immediatly after being sworn in.
Rotovia
24-06-2004, 13:13
I would vote for Bush if he promised to off himself immediatly after being sworn in.
Spoffin
24-06-2004, 13:20
I would vote for Bush if he promised to off himself immediatly after being sworn in.You'd believe him????

I would vote for Bush only if the other guy was General Turgidstan from Stanley Kubrik's film Dr Strangelove.
Rotovia
24-06-2004, 13:26
I would vote for Bush if he promised to off himself immediatly after being sworn in.You'd believe him????

I would vote for Bush only if the other guy was General Turgidstan from Stanley Kubrik's film Dr Strangelove.I have no idea who or what you are talking about, but I would ensure his promise was enforced by the Supreme Court.
Psylos
24-06-2004, 13:55
Psylos
24-06-2004, 13:55
Psylos
24-06-2004, 14:09
I'd vote Bush if:
1/ My vote counted as much as the next white middle-class conservative (and a little racist) christian male driving SUV in Florida.
2/ I was a multi-bilionaire engaged in the oil dirty business and signatory of the PNAC.
3/ I had links with Ben laden.
4/ I masturbated by thinking about my guns.
5/ I was an islamist terrorist looking to maximize anti-american sentiment around the world.
6/ I was a corporate terrorist looking for a free go in a lying frenzy.
Spoffin
24-06-2004, 15:23
I would vote for Bush if he promised to off himself immediatly after being sworn in.You'd believe him????

I would vote for Bush only if the other guy was General Turgidstan from Stanley Kubrik's film Dr Strangelove.I have no idea who or what you are talking about, but I would ensure his promise was enforced by the Supreme Court.General Turgidstan is more than a little insane, and wants to bomb the shit out of the USSR before they can bomb the US.
Dragoneia
24-06-2004, 15:28
Actually there wouldnt be lower gas prices.

Well did you know kerry want to raise them even higher? Id vote for bush if I was old enough mainly cuase i don t wanna see kerry in office :?
Zarathustronia
24-06-2004, 16:07
I would only vote for Geore Bush if he and Dick Cheney were forced to resign as soon as he was inaugurated and Lenin was the speaker of the house.
Novattaw
24-06-2004, 17:16
Damn Repulicans And Democrats
Ice Hockey Players
24-06-2004, 17:48
I would vote for Bush if he named me his VP, the 28th Amendment said that 21-year-olds could be President, and I could find a way to whack him and get away with it...then I would join the Democratic Party, turn it more left-wing, pass a bunch of bills with a bunch of sleeper riders making tax burdens fall more on the rich and less on the poor, and make Italian dressing our national condiment...err, wait, that's too Italian...make that Ranch dressing. Italian dressing can be our national import condiment.
Berkylvania
24-06-2004, 17:53
I would vote for Bush if he asked me nicely, including the words "please", "cherry", "pretty", "on", "top" and "Sasquatch".

There would also have to be some sort of ritual dance involved.
Frogmarch
24-06-2004, 17:56
I'd vote for Bush if he promised to go back to college and study international relations with development studies.
Japaica
24-06-2004, 17:56
I'd vote for Bush if:

-I was American
-He wasn't more shit than the other guy

The second is Impossible :D
Druthulhu
24-06-2004, 19:24
I would vote for Bush if prior to the election he would fully confess to all of his crimes in violation of the Bill of Rights and following Ammendments to the U.S. Constitution, the highest law in the U.S.A., and against various international treaties such as Geneva I-IV which are the second highest, and give full unpurgered testimony to all like crimes by any elected or appointed U.S. government official known to him, as well as all felony crimes known to him as done by such people, including such things as selling weaponry to terrorist organizations or supportive states, securities fraud, bribery, torture, violations of the Sixth Ammendment, and including such people as John Ashcroft, George Herbert Walker Bush and Dick Chaney. If he could still run after that, I'd write him in :D
Stephistan
24-06-2004, 20:00
I would vote for Bush if..

A) I was an American

AND

B) I was given a Frontal Lobotomy!
Ashmoria
24-06-2004, 20:07
well ive been voting for 29 years and i MAY have voted for a repubican for a local office once but i have never voted for a republican for national office. so really nothing could persuade me to vote for bush but there are a few things he could do that would make me think better of him.

1) dump cheney
2) dump rumsfeld
3) choose ms rice for vp
4) quit spending all his campaign time at $1000/plate dinners and start meeting the common people FOR FREE. he has enough money to run a good campaign
5) dump ashcroft
6) come to a realization that a half truth IS A LIE. that implying a lie IS A LIE. that having someone else lie for you IS LYING.
Incertonia
24-06-2004, 20:16
I would vote for Bush if he asked me nicely, including the words "please", "cherry", "pretty", "on", "top" and "Sasquatch".

There would also have to be some sort of ritual dance involved.Wow--you're easy. :lol:

Unless the ritual dance involved hurling himself into a live volcano at some point.
Japaica
24-06-2004, 20:18
I'd vote for Bush if he let me run around in the streets of D.C. with only a Goofy Hat on, singing "I feel So Alive". :D
Kooterades army
24-06-2004, 20:20
Damn Repulicans And Democrats

interesting aproach, if i were to adopt this strategy, it would probably be because i was a member of the "GUNS AND DOPE" party. which acctually exists.

-kooterade
Kooterades army
24-06-2004, 20:23
I'd vote for Bush if he let me run around in the streets of D.C. with only a Goofy Hat on, singing "I feel So Alive". :D

you dont do that already? cause i sure as hell do. only im wearing a pirate hat and im dancing around davis california. now if bush did this on the other hand, i might be willing to... nah.

-kooterade
Kooterades army
24-06-2004, 20:23
I'd vote for Bush if he let me run around in the streets of D.C. with only a Goofy Hat on, singing "I feel So Alive". :D

you dont do that already? cause i sure as hell do. only im wearing a pirate hat and im dancing around davis california. now if bush did this on the other hand, i might be willing to... nah.

-kooterade
Druthulhu
24-06-2004, 20:25
Damn Repulicans And Democrats

interesting aproach, if i were to adopt this strategy, it would probably be because i was a member of the "GUNS AND DOPE" party. which acctually exists.

-kooterade

You mean the Libertarians? Guns, dope, no public education system, no public health care, no environmental protections, no corporate/industrial regulations, and no minimum wage...

Great Idea :roll:
Rhyno D
24-06-2004, 20:41
All of y'all act like Bush is the worst guy ever, but let's think about this...
There's Clinton, who screwed up the economy, not to mention adultery and lying under oath, and paying others to lie under oath...

OO! And then there's Kerry, who can't stay on one side of any issue, and who shot himself so he could get a purple heart...

Nixon, watergate...

A bunch of other presidents who didn't do jack squat so they aren't worth mentioning by name...

I'd say Bush is better than any of those guys, eh? Even if he's not the best, he's better than most, including Kerry.
Druthulhu
24-06-2004, 21:07
All of y'all act like Bush is the worst guy ever, but let's think about this...
There's Clinton, who screwed up the economy, not to mention adultery and lying under oath, and paying others to lie under oath...

OO! And then there's Kerry, who can't stay on one side of any issue, and who shot himself so he could get a purple heart...

Nixon, watergate...

A bunch of other presidents who didn't do jack squat so they aren't worth mentioning by name...

I'd say Bush is better than any of those guys, eh? Even if he's not the best, he's better than most, including Kerry.

Yeah Clinton really screwed up the economy. That surplus was a real mess before Bush got in and wisely spent us back into debt. And man... lying about your sex life? under oath even? Doesn't the congress have a right to know about a president's sex life? Isn't it an issue worth impeaching somebody over? After all it's not a MINOR lie like "we have solid intelligence about Saddam's WMD systems and his alliegence with Al Queida". That's just petty... good thing nobody's mentioned impeachment about THOSE lil white lies, huh?

BTW in a criminal count of slander, saying "but it was the truth" is an affirmative defence, that is, the burden of proof is on the defendant. So what is your proof regarding Kerry's alleged self-inflicted wound?
Creeghan
24-06-2004, 21:08
I will vote for Bush...Actually i am a campaign worker for the campaign in florida. So hopefully i can get alot of people to vote for him. Its looking good so far, at least in Florida.
Druthulhu
24-06-2004, 21:09
And BTW, Kerry served. He went to Viet Nam, where he received his "self-inflicted" injury. Bush ran off to the National Guard and then went AWOL for a year, which is desertion, and got off with no punishment... perhaps due to his billionaire father's influence?
Sumamba Buwhan
24-06-2004, 21:09
I'd vote for Bush if I was heartless and a little retarded
Druthulhu
24-06-2004, 21:10
I will vote for Bush...Actually i am a campaign worker for the campaign in florida. So hopefully i can get alot of people to vote for him. Its looking good so far, at least in Florida.

*LMAO*

Of COURSE it looks good in Florida. I am sure you will have all of those new voting machines up and working "properly" in time for another win for the Bush family, right? ;)
Kooterades army
24-06-2004, 21:27
I will vote for Bush...Actually i am a campaign worker for the campaign in florida. So hopefully i can get alot of people to vote for him. Its looking good so far, at least in Florida.

*LMAO*

Of COURSE it looks good in Florida. I am sure you will have all of those new voting machines up and working "properly" in time for another win for the Bush family, right? ;)

i love it
MKULTRA
24-06-2004, 21:42
Id vote for Bush if he committed suicide
Opal Isle
24-06-2004, 21:46
Actually there wouldnt be lower gas prices.

Well did you know kerry want to raise them even higher? Id vote for bush if I was old enough mainly cuase i don t wanna see kerry in office :?

Congratulations, unfortunately, if you read the other posts, this isn't what this thread is about. Go start your own "I'd vote for Kerry if...." thread so I can go criticize your unoriginal GOPness...
Opal Isle
24-06-2004, 21:48
I'd vote for Bush if he promised to go back to college and study international relations with development studies.

And American Civics, as he clearly has very little understanding of our Constitution...
Rhyno D
24-06-2004, 22:33
All of y'all act like Bush is the worst guy ever, but let's think about this...
There's Clinton, who screwed up the economy, not to mention adultery and lying under oath, and paying others to lie under oath...

OO! And then there's Kerry, who can't stay on one side of any issue, and who shot himself so he could get a purple heart...

Nixon, watergate...

A bunch of other presidents who didn't do jack squat so they aren't worth mentioning by name...

I'd say Bush is better than any of those guys, eh? Even if he's not the best, he's better than most, including Kerry.

Yeah Clinton really screwed up the economy. That surplus was a real mess before Bush got in and wisely spent us back into debt. And man... lying about your sex life? under oath even? Doesn't the congress have a right to know about a president's sex life? Isn't it an issue worth impeaching somebody over? After all it's not a MINOR lie like "we have solid intelligence about Saddam's WMD systems and his alliegence with Al Queida". That's just petty... good thing nobody's mentioned impeachment about THOSE lil white lies, huh?

BTW in a criminal count of slander, saying "but it was the truth" is an affirmative defence, that is, the burden of proof is on the defendant. So what is your proof regarding Kerry's alleged self-inflicted wound?

Ok, first off, adultery is illegal. And if the president can't be trusted with his promises to his wife, how can we trust him in his promises to the nation? And not only does he lie in his personal life, he lied UNDER OATH! Does that mean anything to you?

And even if that isn't enough, he's an idiot.
Depends on what your definition of the word "is" is.
Berkylvania
24-06-2004, 22:44
Ok, first off, adultery is illegal.

Where?


And if the president can't be trusted with his promises to his wife, how can we trust him in his promises to the nation? And not only does he lie in his personal life, he lied UNDER OATH! Does that mean anything to you?

No, because he should have never been asked the question. If they could have nailed him on Whitewater, that would have been different. But they couldn't so they went after him on some sort of trumped up morals charge that never should have figured in the first place. Period. Besides, as lies go, I much prefer, "I didn't have sex" to "They've got nukes and chemicals and bioweapons and they're gonna use them any day if we don't go over there and kick there asses pronto!"



Depends on what your definition of the word "is" is.

While we're doing definitions, could you find me some for "immanent," "possession," "stockpiles," "long-standing" or "deep" and "relationship" or "ties". Thanx!
Catholic Sweden
24-06-2004, 23:13
Catholic Sweden
24-06-2004, 23:14
I would vote for him, if I lived in the US.
Conrado
24-06-2004, 23:19
I would vote for Bush if he accepted the Kyoto treaty, and wasn't such a Jesus freak. I respect his religion, but come on.
Conrado
24-06-2004, 23:21
Just another quick comment, adultery is not illegal. It is immoral, but not illegal.
Opal Isle
24-06-2004, 23:21
Contrary to apparant popular belief, this thread is not a "I'd vote for him if I lived in the US and was old enough" thread. This is for GOP haters to post a wishlist or a to-do list for GWB. And we're also not going to argue about past democrats because not only has GWB done things much worse than Clinton did (fucking up international relations IS much worse than fucking up your relationship with your wife) (no, it is, really, trust me), but also because you're all wrong. Start another thread to argue about who was better between Clinton and Bush (I think the open-minded people will find that Clinton was better on the whole), and also, if you want to support Bush, start a thread called "I'd vote for Kerry if..." so I can go make fun of your unoriginality. I'd vote for Bush if he believed in freedom and the consitution. (If www.gwbush.com was still up, I'd link you all to the .mp3 of him saying "there ought to be limits to freedom" when he was asked about a website that criticized him.) (I will also try finding a link to an article I just closed which shows that Bush too is a flip-flopper. Not that that is a bad thing. I am all for flip-flopping. If a canidate is making decisions based on what the people want, then he is doing what he is supposed to. Somehow, the GOP think that Kerry's reflexiveness to the American people is a bad thing and the Bush's close-minded iron fist over the American people is good.)
Opal Isle
24-06-2004, 23:23
I would vote for Bush if he accepted the Kyoto treaty, and wasn't such a Jesus freak. I respect his religion, but come on.

You know, 2000, Gore, Bush, both idiots, we thought we were choosing between Coke and Pepsi. That's why I voted for Nader. But it turns out it was really Coke and Jesus-Juice, and Coke didn't win. ...or something like that... (that's a paraphrase, but you get the idea...)
Conrado
24-06-2004, 23:24
I disagree. I think that Clinton wasn't much better than Bush is now. Clinton's presidency consisted of the following : Having affairs, bombing aspirin factories, lying under oath, and NOT catching bin Laden. I hate how democrats think they're so "above" the republicans, and vice versa. On a federal level, both parties are quite corrupt.
Conrado
24-06-2004, 23:24
Pretty funny thing about the coke and pepsi.
Opal Isle
24-06-2004, 23:25
I would vote for him, if I lived in the US.

By the way, how can I emphasize this enough?! This isn't what this thread is about. Go make a new thread. I'm trying to help Bush out by finding out what the American people want. I really do want to vote for him, honest, but he's gonna have to make some changes...
Opal Isle
24-06-2004, 23:28
I disagree. I think that Clinton wasn't much better than Bush is now. Clinton's presidency consisted of the following : Having affairs, bombing aspirin factories, lying under oath, and NOT catching bin Laden. I hate how democrats think they're so "above" the republicans, and vice versa. On a federal level, both parties are quite corrupt.

...are you even reading my posts? We're not arguing about that in this thread...take it to another thread...in fact, I'll start one for you...it's called "Clinton vs Bush" go post there...
Friendly Humans
25-06-2004, 06:21
I'd vote for Kerry if...

He could defeat Bush.

And he can, so I guess I'll vote for Kerry.
Pantylvania
25-06-2004, 09:20
I'd vote for Bush if George W Bush changed his name to George W Smith and John Kerry changed his name to John Bush
Druthulhu
25-06-2004, 14:34
...

Ok, first off, adultery is illegal. And if the president can't be trusted with his promises to his wife, how can we trust him in his promises to the nation? And not only does he lie in his personal life, he lied UNDER OATH! Does that mean anything to you?

And even if that isn't enough, he's an idiot.

OK... adulery, like witchcraft and walking a pig down a main street, may still be illegal in certain places, but it is not enforced. It is a matter of CIVIL law. Buy a dictionary and look up the definition of civil law, please.

Secondly, yeah... a guy who would lie to his wife is not an entirely honest person. How about a guy who would lie to the entire nation in his State of the Union Address, and then send a once-honorable military veteran to the U.N. to lie to the whole world? Also, somebody (assuming presence of brain) might consider a lie to avoid the consequences of adultery to be less of an issue than a lie to start a war. Just... maybe, a little...

What I am talking about here is degrees of severity. Look that one up too while you're at it.

Thirdly, if Clinton is an idiot, than Bush is practically brain dead. I for one am still waiting for him to explain what the word "nucular" means. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Druthulhu
25-06-2004, 14:45
Druthulhu
25-06-2004, 14:53
I disagree. I think that Clinton wasn't much better than Bush is now. Clinton's presidency consisted of the following : Having affairs, bombing aspirin factories, lying under oath, and NOT catching bin Laden. I hate how democrats think they're so "above" the republicans, and vice versa. On a federal level, both parties are quite corrupt.

1) affairs - granted.

2) asprin factories, et al. some of those were in Iraq, right? Ever wonder why we did NOT find the WMDs that Bush was so sure were there? Could it be *gasps* that Clinton knew what he was doing?

3) lying under oath - covered by me (none of Congress' business, entirely personal life oriented witch hunt, pales in comparison to the doozies that Bush has told but hey, the "under oath" part is all that matters, right?)

4) not catching Bin Ladin - not for lack of trying, which brings us to the Bush era before 9/11 and after he shifted focus to Iraq. Clinton was after Bin Ladin, but the same interagency rivalries blamed for 9/11 hampered him. They did not however keep him from making a detailed plan, including the formation of a Homeland Security department, for the next president. Which Bush entirely ignored until after 9/11, when he took credit for things like the Homeland Security department. Neither has caught Bin Ladin, but the difference is this: Clinton has actually TRIED. Bush seems to have forgotten him entirely.

Commendations on your "neither is a better party" position, but seriously, Clinton was one of our greatest leaders, while Bush is worse than Nixon.



P.S.: Opal Isle... give it up. People are gonna post what the feel like and you are really starting to look like an ass.
Aluran
25-06-2004, 15:02
I disagree. I think that Clinton wasn't much better than Bush is now. Clinton's presidency consisted of the following : Having affairs, bombing aspirin factories, lying under oath, and NOT catching bin Laden. I hate how democrats think they're so "above" the republicans, and vice versa. On a federal level, both parties are quite corrupt.

1) affairs - granted.

2) asprin factories, et al. some of those were in Iraq, right? Ever wonder why we did NOT find the WMDs that Bush was so sure were there? Could it be *gasps* that Clinton knew what he was doing? actually...the aspirin factor was in the Sudan, not Iraq and was a major blow to healthcare in that region

3) lying under oath - covered by me (none of Congress' business, entirely personal life oriented witch hunt, pales in comparison to the doozies that Bush has told but hey, the "under oath" part is all that matters, right?) Ahmm..in a civil or criminal proceeding..lying under oath is perjury...I'd say that matters, and if he lied under oath bout an affair, our business or not, it's more then likely there are other things he's lied bout

4) not catching Bin Ladin - not for lack of trying, which brings us to the Bush era before 9/11 and after he shifted focus to Iraq. Clinton was after Bin Ladin, but the same interagency rivalries blamed for 9/11 hampered him. They did not however keep him from making a detailed plan, including the formation of a Homeland Security department, for the next president. Which Bush entirely ignored until after 9/11, when he took credit for things like the Homeland Security department. Neither has caught Bin Ladin, but the difference is this: Clinton has actually TRIED. Bush seems to have forgotten him entirely.actually..Clinton was given the oppurtunity to be handed Osame at least two if not three times but each time he let the oppurtunity slip thru his hands

Commendations on your "neither is a better party" position, but seriously, Clinton was one of our greatest leaders, while Bush is worse than Nixon.



P.S.: Opal Isle... give it up. People are gonna post what the feel like and you are really starting to look like an ass.
Kellville
25-06-2004, 15:03
Let's face it, it all comes down to credibility. Bush said he would get us in a war, and like it or not - there we are. Kerry voted for the war, then against it, then for it. There is no difference between his credibility and Clintons. I would rather the evil I know than the evil that is forked-tongued about it...
Seosavists
25-06-2004, 15:24
i would vote for bush if...
he had to dress a clown for his entire presidency or be impeached. if he lied he would have to beep his nose.
and if i had a vote in the US and if he had no actual power :!:
i probably wouldnt want to vote for kerry either
Dempublicents
25-06-2004, 17:31
I would vote for Bush if...

He hadn't already had a term as president and pretty much done a shitty job. I'd rather vote for the evil I don't know than let the evil I know do even more (without the worry of getting another term).
Druthulhu
25-06-2004, 21:30
2) Yes, that one example, as I inferred (implied? :? ) was in the Sudan, while there were many others in Iraq. Clinton said it was a chemical weapons plant while the Sudanese said it was an asperin factory. So you can choose to believe the Sudanese government, an islamo-facist dictatorship which suspended the constitution in 1998, condones slavery, and imposes islamic law on everyone, in a nation that has been in civil war for 38 of the past 48 years, or believe Clinton. Now, I know that Clinton = Satan and all, but I am just a little more inclined to believe him.

3) Yes, lying under oath is purjury. Not reporting for military service for a year is desertion. Both are pretty heavy. Someone who lies about his personal life is likely to have lied about other things. Someone who is a deserter and then lies in order to start a war is even more likely to to have lied about other things. It's comparing apples to orchards.

4) So when, and according to whom, did Clinton have the oppprtunity to be handed Bin Ladin?