NationStates Jolt Archive

We begin the quarterfinals...

In Legends of Metal Bracket, Metallica goes up against Iron Maiden.


Okay here's how the voting goes. Since the polls can easily be manipulated this is the voting system we will use:

If you post your vote with a nation of 75 posts or more, that vote counts as two. The poll votes count as 1. Technically your vote can be counted as three votes, if you vote both in the poll and post what you voted for.

However, even with this system in place this entire poll can be easily manipulated. So I ask you, please don't... Let's not cheat shall we?

Also, I'd like arguements from both sides on why that particular band (in this case, Iron Maiden or Metallica) should win. So please feel free to post long paragraphs regarding the merits of either Iron Maiden or Metallica.

The poll will run for exactly 3 days.
After the poll closes. Posted votes will not count.

GET TO IT!!!

I voted for Iron Maiden. There are a couple of reasons for this: 1.) They had/have Bruce Dickenson as a frontman (his voice is one of the few you could technicially classify as hallmark for the genre). 2.) Even though Hammit studied under Satriani and Hetfield is a more than capable rhythm player (at least in the pre-Load eras), I feel that Maiden has always had the more interesting song-structure and (certainly in recent years) better solos.

Early Metallica was pretty good, even though everything after And Justice was pretty lame.

Iron Maiden were never bad, just not that great in my opinion, my vote goes to Metallica.

is it over....? *falls over*

IRON MAIDEN IS NOT A REAL BAND IS IT? :shock:

is it over....? *falls over*

SPAM SPAM :shock:

is it over....? *falls over*

SPAM SPAM :shock:

omgish! l13k....li13k\/\/153...?

:shock:

is it over....? *falls over*

SPAM SPAM :shock:

omgish! l13k....li13k\/\/153...?

:shock:

I KNOW YOU BUTCHU DON'T KNOW ME :shock:

I vote Maiden. Well Iron Maiden is my favorite band of all time... so yeah... It's not a surprise.

METALLICA :D

How can you compare the two? Iron Maiden is generally considered a Heavy Metal band, although some would classify them as Power Metal. Metallica was early Thrash, although even their earlier albums are more Speed Metal. I think of them as proto-Thrash. There are and have been much better Thrash and Speed Metal bands than Metallica (Kreator, Destruction, Watchtower, Blind Guardian, Sodom, Sadus).

I have been listening to underground metal (mostly Death and Black Metal) religiously for several years now, and in my opinion, your effort to narrow the entire genre down to these two bands is ridiculous. I'll concede that both are very influential, but there have been more influential bands, like Black Sabbath, Mercyful Fate...shit, even Iron Cross. Metallica helped to develop Thrash metal, but this is really not terribly significant since Thrash never really developed on its own. Thematically, it never added anything to the metal genre, like the much more noteworthy subgenres of Black and Death Metal did. Iron Maiden is perhaps the most influential Heavy/Traditional metal band since Black Sabbath, but their recent material is lackluster. Metallica's material after the black album is not even metal, and every album of theirs since ...And Justice was garbage (yes, ...And Justice is crappy, derivative Speed Metal - they had abandoned Thrash completely at this point).

My vote goes to Iron Maiden, but this is a silly poll.

If anyone is interested, here are some truly innovatiove metal bands:

Demilich
Nocturnus
Darkthrone
Burzum
Graveland
Summoning
Arghoslent
Celtic Frost
Bathory
Mercyful Fate
Black Sabbath
Possessed
Atheist
Von
Hellhammer
The Chasm

Metal is like the economy: everyone thinks they're an expert...few people have any idea what it is.

Sepultura (before Max cavalerra left). Roots (96).
Now Soul Fly is ok.

I've heard System of a dawn recently, it is not bad, although a little too slow.
Best album ever is "The great southern trendkill" from Pantera (96).

Damn, 96 was a great year, not just for wine!

I voted for....


Iron Maaaaiiden


Seventh Son of a Seventh Son!

Im comparing, what I consider to be both bands crowning achievments, since both bands now suck, and have for years.

Powerslave.

VS.

Master of Puppets.

Puppets.

Easy.

IRON MAIDEN IS NOT A REAL BAND IS IT? :shock:

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

::::BEATS DUCKKS WITH A SLEDGE HAMMER!!!!!::::

Can anyone guess where my vote goes?
Nope not to the pousers, but to the real thing - Iron Maiden RULZ!

How can you compare the two? Iron Maiden is generally considered a Heavy Metal band, although some would classify them as Power Metal. Metallica was early Thrash, although even their earlier albums are more Speed Metal. I think of them as proto-Thrash. There are and have been much better Thrash and Speed Metal bands than Metallica (Kreator, Destruction, Watchtower, Blind Guardian, Sodom, Sadus).

I have been listening to underground metal (mostly Death and Black Metal) religiously for several years now, and in my opinion, your effort to narrow the entire genre down to these two bands is ridiculous. I'll concede that both are very influential, but there have been more influential bands, like Black Sabbath, Mercyful Fate...shit, even Iron Cross. Metallica helped to develop Thrash metal, but this is really not terribly significant since Thrash never really developed on its own. Thematically, it never added anything to the metal genre, like the much more noteworthy subgenres of Black and Death Metal did. Iron Maiden is perhaps the most influential Heavy/Traditional metal band since Black Sabbath, but their recent material is lackluster. Metallica's material after the black album is not even metal, and every album of theirs since ...And Justice was garbage (yes, ...And Justice is crappy, derivative Speed Metal - they had abandoned Thrash completely at this point).

My vote goes to Iron Maiden, but this is a silly poll.

If anyone is interested, here are some truly innovatiove metal bands:

Demilich
Nocturnus
Darkthrone
Burzum
Graveland
Summoning
Arghoslent
Celtic Frost
Bathory
Mercyful Fate
Black Sabbath
Possessed
Atheist
Von
Hellhammer
The Chasm

Metal is like the economy: everyone thinks they're an expert...few people have any idea what it is.

If you"d been following this, you'd know that this was a pyramid poll. Maiden beat Black Sabbath and Metallica (URP) just beat Judas Priest. (Damned kids!)

How can you compare the two? Iron Maiden is generally considered a Heavy Metal band, although some would classify them as Power Metal. Metallica was early Thrash, although even their earlier albums are more Speed Metal. I think of them as proto-Thrash. There are and have been much better Thrash and Speed Metal bands than Metallica (Kreator, Destruction, Watchtower, Blind Guardian, Sodom, Sadus).

I have been listening to underground metal (mostly Death and Black Metal) religiously for several years now, and in my opinion, your effort to narrow the entire genre down to these two bands is ridiculous. I'll concede that both are very influential, but there have been more influential bands, like Black Sabbath, Mercyful Fate...shit, even Iron Cross. Metallica helped to develop Thrash metal, but this is really not terribly significant since Thrash never really developed on its own. Thematically, it never added anything to the metal genre, like the much more noteworthy subgenres of Black and Death Metal did. Iron Maiden is perhaps the most influential Heavy/Traditional metal band since Black Sabbath, but their recent material is lackluster. Metallica's material after the black album is not even metal, and every album of theirs since ...And Justice was garbage (yes, ...And Justice is crappy, derivative Speed Metal - they had abandoned Thrash completely at this point).

My vote goes to Iron Maiden, but this is a silly poll.

If anyone is interested, here are some truly innovatiove metal bands:

Demilich
Nocturnus
Darkthrone
Burzum
Graveland
Summoning
Arghoslent
Celtic Frost
Bathory
Mercyful Fate
Black Sabbath
Possessed
Atheist
Von
Hellhammer
The Chasm

Metal is like the economy: everyone thinks they're an expert...few people have any idea what it is.

If you"d been following this, you'd know that this was a pyramid poll. Maiden beat Black Sabbath and Metallica (URP) just beat Judas Priest. (Damned kids!)

Thanks you. I'm glad I don't have to make one more explanation on how this is part of a larger thing...

And yes... it is indeed a shame that Judas Priest lost... If Metallica wins this one... I will lose all faith in my generation (I'm 17)

How can you compare the two? Iron Maiden is generally considered a Heavy Metal band, although some would classify them as Power Metal. Metallica was early Thrash, although even their earlier albums are more Speed Metal. I think of them as proto-Thrash. There are and have been much better Thrash and Speed Metal bands than Metallica (Kreator, Destruction, Watchtower, Blind Guardian, Sodom, Sadus).

I have been listening to underground metal (mostly Death and Black Metal) religiously for several years now, and in my opinion, your effort to narrow the entire genre down to these two bands is ridiculous. I'll concede that both are very influential, but there have been more influential bands, like Black Sabbath, Mercyful Fate...shit, even Iron Cross. Metallica helped to develop Thrash metal, but this is really not terribly significant since Thrash never really developed on its own. Thematically, it never added anything to the metal genre, like the much more noteworthy subgenres of Black and Death Metal did. Iron Maiden is perhaps the most influential Heavy/Traditional metal band since Black Sabbath, but their recent material is lackluster. Metallica's material after the black album is not even metal, and every album of theirs since ...And Justice was garbage (yes, ...And Justice is crappy, derivative Speed Metal - they had abandoned Thrash completely at this point).

My vote goes to Iron Maiden, but this is a silly poll.

If anyone is interested, here are some truly innovatiove metal bands:

Demilich
Nocturnus
Darkthrone
Burzum
Graveland
Summoning
Arghoslent
Celtic Frost
Bathory
Mercyful Fate
Black Sabbath
Possessed
Atheist
Von
Hellhammer
The Chasm

Metal is like the economy: everyone thinks they're an expert...few people have any idea what it is.

If you"d been following this, you'd know that this was a pyramid poll. Maiden beat Black Sabbath and Metallica (URP) just beat Judas Priest. (Damned kids!)

Thanks you. I'm glad I don't have to make one more explanation on how this is part of a larger thing...

And yes... it is indeed a shame that Judas Priest lost... If Metallica wins this one... I will lose all faith in my generation (I'm 17)

Maiden. It's always Maiden. Metallica have soiled their copybook too badly to ever be forgiven.

Maiden. It's always Maiden. Metallica have soiled their copybook too badly to ever be forgiven.

How can you compare the two? Iron Maiden is generally considered a Heavy Metal band, although some would classify them as Power Metal. Metallica was early Thrash, although even their earlier albums are more Speed Metal. I think of them as proto-Thrash. There are and have been much better Thrash and Speed Metal bands than Metallica (Kreator, Destruction, Watchtower, Blind Guardian, Sodom, Sadus).

I have been listening to underground metal (mostly Death and Black Metal) religiously for several years now, and in my opinion, your effort to narrow the entire genre down to these two bands is ridiculous. I'll concede that both are very influential, but there have been more influential bands, like Black Sabbath, Mercyful Fate...shit, even Iron Cross. Metallica helped to develop Thrash metal, but this is really not terribly significant since Thrash never really developed on its own. Thematically, it never added anything to the metal genre, like the much more noteworthy subgenres of Black and Death Metal did. Iron Maiden is perhaps the most influential Heavy/Traditional metal band since Black Sabbath, but their recent material is lackluster. Metallica's material after the black album is not even metal, and every album of theirs since ...And Justice was garbage (yes, ...And Justice is crappy, derivative Speed Metal - they had abandoned Thrash completely at this point).

My vote goes to Iron Maiden, but this is a silly poll.

If anyone is interested, here are some truly innovatiove metal bands:

Demilich
Nocturnus
Darkthrone
Burzum
Graveland
Summoning
Arghoslent
Celtic Frost
Bathory
Mercyful Fate
Black Sabbath
Possessed
Atheist
Von
Hellhammer
The Chasm

Metal is like the economy: everyone thinks they're an expert...few people have any idea what it is.

NSBM isn't very innovative or clever. And Nocturnus were a joke. They wanted so badly to be Morbid Angel.

Metallica.

It's like BackwoodsSquatches said. Even if you don't like the band now, go by the best they ever were.

Metallica clearly beats out Iron Maiden. I can listen to Metallica for hours on end, Iron Maiden, I cannot.

There are and have been much better Thrash and Speed Metal bands than Metallica (Kreator, Destruction, Watchtower, Blind Guardian, Sodom, Sadus).


Blind Guardian is a speed or thrash band now? :? :?

I.....See.....

And yes... it is indeed a shame that Judas Priest lost... If Metallica wins this one... I will lose all faith in my generation (I'm 17)

8) Good to hear it.

And yes... it is indeed a shame that Judas Priest lost... If Metallica wins this one... I will lose all faith in my generation (I'm 17)

8) Good to hear it.

Well, better start losin faith. Looks like Metallica is winning.

And yes... it is indeed a shame that Judas Priest lost... If Metallica wins this one... I will lose all faith in my generation (I'm 17)

8) Good to hear it.

Well, better start losin faith. Looks like Metallica is winning.

There's always the posted votes... It'll be close I know that....

There are and have been much better Thrash and Speed Metal bands than Metallica (Kreator, Destruction, Watchtower, Blind Guardian, Sodom, Sadus).


Blind Guardian is a speed or thrash band now? :? :?

I.....See.....

Listen to their early stuff. :wink:

And yes... it is indeed a shame that Judas Priest lost... If Metallica wins this one... I will lose all faith in my generation (I'm 17)

8) Good to hear it.

Well, better start losin faith. Looks like Metallica is winning.

There's always the posted votes... It'll be close I know that....

you could always cheat...owning the thread and all :wink:

Damn...Now that I look back I should have nominated Red Hot Chili Peppers :evil:

There are and have been much better Thrash and Speed Metal bands than Metallica (Kreator, Destruction, Watchtower, Blind Guardian, Sodom, Sadus).


Blind Guardian is a speed or thrash band now? :? :?

I.....See.....

Listen to their early stuff. :wink:

Yeah but....I still wouldn't compare them to Metallica

Shouldn't the voting be over by now?

Well, it still seems to be open, so I voted Maiden.
Metallica$h can never be forgiven their crimes against metal.
Besides, even Maiden's worst album still pisses over Metallica's entire output from 1991 on.

And can you blame Nocturnus for wanting to be like Morbid Angel?

Neither

How can you compare the two? Iron Maiden is generally considered a Heavy Metal band, although some would classify them as Power Metal. Metallica was early Thrash, although even their earlier albums are more Speed Metal. I think of them as proto-Thrash. There are and have been much better Thrash and Speed Metal bands than Metallica (Kreator, Destruction, Watchtower, Blind Guardian, Sodom, Sadus).

I have been listening to underground metal (mostly Death and Black Metal) religiously for several years now, and in my opinion, your effort to narrow the entire genre down to these two bands is ridiculous. I'll concede that both are very influential, but there have been more influential bands, like Black Sabbath, Mercyful Fate...shit, even Iron Cross. Metallica helped to develop Thrash metal, but this is really not terribly significant since Thrash never really developed on its own. Thematically, it never added anything to the metal genre, like the much more noteworthy subgenres of Black and Death Metal did. Iron Maiden is perhaps the most influential Heavy/Traditional metal band since Black Sabbath, but their recent material is lackluster. Metallica's material after the black album is not even metal, and every album of theirs since ...And Justice was garbage (yes, ...And Justice is crappy, derivative Speed Metal - they had abandoned Thrash completely at this point).

My vote goes to Iron Maiden, but this is a silly poll.

If anyone is interested, here are some truly innovatiove metal bands:

Demilich
Nocturnus
Darkthrone
Burzum
Graveland
Summoning
Arghoslent
Celtic Frost
Bathory
Mercyful Fate
Black Sabbath
Possessed
Atheist
Von
Hellhammer
The Chasm

Metal is like the economy: everyone thinks they're an expert...few people have any idea what it is.

If you"d been following this, you'd know that this was a pyramid poll. Maiden beat Black Sabbath and Metallica (URP) just beat Judas Priest. (Damned kids!)

Wait! How did Maiden beat Black Sabbath??? Sabbath is the best band ever!!! Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler, Bill Ward, Ozzy Osbourne? How could these Metal legends lose to any band at all? Well, anyways, my vote goes to Maiden. Metallica used to be one of my favorite bands, and master of Puppets rocked! But now, they dont go anywere without MTV cams, and their music sucks. {What the hell was Saint Anger, all it did was make a nice frisbee}

Here's that round. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=149537&highlight=)

It was close. Both certainly beat Metallica, IMNSHO.

And can you blame Nocturnus for wanting to be like Morbid Angel?

Morbid Angel are lameee.

Death is so much better.

PS:

Power metal as a genre is like a big block of cheddar.

Metallica OWNS. PERIOD

http://aimforsaken.250free.com/seph.gif

And can you blame Nocturnus for wanting to be like Morbid Angel?

No, I suppose not, and I suppose it was inevitable they'd sound like Morbid Angel with Mike Browning on drums and vocals originally.

And Soviet Hagrid or whatever, that wasn't what we were talking about. Personally, I find both bands have their place.

Double penetration...

Wow, I'm glad I didn't look at this post when the poll was still open, because there wasn't an option for "I hate this type of music."

Wow, I'm glad I didn't look at this post when the poll was still open, because there wasn't an option for "I hate this type of music."

well, even if you dont like Metal, you could still guess. If someone likes rap {eww} they could choose metallica since those losers went into Metal Rap for a while.

I'M JUST A TEENAGE DIRTBAG BAY LIK CHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

YEHEH YEHHEHEEEEYEHAEEEEEA

Iron Maiden

There both crap

i cant believe that metallica could have possibly won... :(
so, who are they against in the next round?

i cant believe that metallica could have possibly won... :(
so, who are they against in the next round?

Amerigo hasn't posted the winner yet, but check the OP for the voting system - Maiden could squeak by on shouts rather than the poll. Either way it'll be close...

Iron Maiden wins by a razor thin margin.

VOTING CLOSED POLLS CLOSED

:D YES!!!!!!

(Told ya so Akaviir. :wink:)

Iron Maiden wins by a razor thin margin.

VOTING CLOSED POLLS CLOSED

No, The Razor's Edge was AC/DC....

Iron Maiden wins by a razor thin margin.

VOTING CLOSED POLLS CLOSED

No, The Razor's Edge was AC/DC....

Well yeah... but Iron Maiden was "living on a razor's edge" in The Evil that Men Do.