NationStates Jolt Archive

I am trying to see how many more liberals play nationstates compared to conservatives. I myself am a Conservative. This Poll is about what Liberal and Conservative is the two really major groups in America and there are many divisions of each. I was wanting just a general idea of which side people consider themselves.

I am conservative as well. Not too conservative (fascist), but moderately conservative.

Not everyone fits on this poll. Haven't you heard of Kropotkin, Rand, etc? They wouldn't fit in either.

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I think Van Morrison said it best when he said 'Let it all hang out'

*The door opens and a donkey comes in and rips one.*

I'm liberal. Yep that's it.

Kroptopkin is liberal, Ayn Rand is conservative....as far as i can see.

um, you realize that there is more to poltical ideology than Liberalism or Conservatism. And even within those two, there's a bunch of differenct ideologies. i.e Classical and Welfare Liberalism, both noticeable different.

So, clearly, this little poll of yours is very flawed.

Tsk. There's more to colours than dark and light, mate but that don't mean you can't say if a certain colour is either.

Socialist, usually. If I'm feeling funny I'll go for the social libretarian view. Or anarchy, thats always been fun.

um, you realize that there is more to poltical ideology than Liberalism or Conservatism. And even within those two, there's a bunch of differenct ideologies. i.e Classical and Welfare Liberalism, both noticeable different.

So, clearly, this little poll of yours is very flawed.

He's talking about the two American political parties. Not all their little subdivisions. I don't know of any type of liberal that would say they are conservative. When given a broad category they would pick liberal.

The poll is not flawed at all. It's just more broad then you'd like it.

Do me a favor and stop attempting to tout yourself as a figure of intelligence. Because that's not what you are.

He's talking about the yank political parties? He could've made that clearer... :/

Kroptopkin is liberal, Ayn Rand is conservative....as far as i can see.

That's an extreme oversimplification. Even I wouldn't lump Bush and Hitler in the same group.

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Conservative

Conservative

*The democratic donkey comes over and rips a loud one right in Kwang's face.*

Conservative. To the right of Ronald Reagan (may he rest in peace), but a smidge left of Attila the Hun. ;)

RE: Lumping Bush and Hitler into the same group...

Not sure it's really an issue of that. Isn't being liberal or conservative a kind of absolute, like being dark or light; - or +; left or right; open or closed?

I am more of a liberal person.

If this poll had a third choice that said "Neither, for I am not a sheep" then I would have voted. Of course to look at my state you might not think so. Compulsory military service and the death penalty apparently are not enough to tip the odds, while second-choice voting is enough to put a "liberal" tag on me.

Simply put, I'm a liberal.

My political stadnings are not so defined. But I am a general right-winger. The following terms can be used to describe my political standings:

- Nationalistic
- Authoritarian
- Capitalistic
- Militaristic
- Atheistic
- Conservative/Moralistic
- Anti-liberal
- Anti-anarchy
- Anti-left
- Anti-communist
- Centralist

My political stadnings are not so defined. But I am a general right-winger. The following terms can be used to describe my political standings:

- Nationalistic
- Authoritarian
- Captialistic
- Militaristic
- Atheistic
- Conservative/Moralistic
- Anti-liberal
- Anti-anarchy
- Anti-left

You mean fascist?

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I'm very conservative. I believe in:

1)A non-interventionist foreign policy
2)NO foreign aid!
3)Keep the federal government out of welfare, education, law enforce-
ment, civil rights, etc. (leave these things to the states)
4)NO Federal Reserve or IRS!
5)NO income tax!
6)NO entangling alliances!
7)A balanced budget
8)The elimination of every 'Department' except State, Treasury, and
possibly Justice
9)Drastic cuts in government spending
10)Split the Department of Defense back into the Departments of War,
Navy, and Air Force
11)NO business regulations
12)NO creeping socialism
13)END diplomatic relations with all countries that still consider us 'the
main enemy'
14)Bring back the House Un-American Activities Committee
15)Strong border protection
16)Limited government (i.e., no Patriot Act, Social Security, etc.)
17)Gold and silver-backed currency
18)Remove all subversives and security risks from the federal government
and tighten security to ensure that no (or at least, as few as possible)
anti-Americans make their way into the government
19)Keep the federal government out of religious matters, leaving them to
the states
20)Leave marriage laws to the states
21)Repeal the 17th Amendment (direct election of senators)
22)End government aid to the states and grant much more power to the
states and local governments
23)NEVER go to war unless the country has been attacked and we are
100% certain we are fighting against the right enemy
24)Keep the State Department out of military business; let military men,
rather than politicians, plan and execute our wars
25)NEVER go to war without a congressional declaration of war

I more of a conservative But i dont care much about gay marraige but I hate the murder of babies.

I am conservative as well. Not too conservative (fascist), but moderately conservative.


Me too, The far-right bugs the hell out of me!

I'm truly a rare breed, a conservative democrat. I just cannot support the current administration, they are too far to the right.

I really see politics as divided into 5 sections: Liberal, Conservative, Liberitarian, Authoritarian, and Centrist. Anything else can more or less go into those 4.
I'd consider myself a Liberal, but I may lean liberitarian or authoritarian for all I know.

I'd still like to know who this Kropotkin character was.

Oh, such humour. :þ

That's right, humoUr, so i'm keeping out of what seems to be an american thing *gg*

I'm pretty much like Roach-Busters, although I'm not sure that view can be characterized as "conservative"(as many conservatives have betrayed the old ideals and embraced bigger, more authoritarian, government. ) My own political outlook is basically Constatutionalist.

I am trying to see how many more liberals play nationstates compared to conservatives. I myself am a Conservative. This Poll is about what Liberal and Conservative is the two really major groups in America and there are many divisions of each. I was wanting just a general idea of which side people consider themselves.

The General Forums in NS is swamped by liberals and hippies.

I am trying to see how many more liberals play nationstates compared to conservatives. I myself am a Conservative. This Poll is about what Liberal and Conservative is the two really major groups in America and there are many divisions of each. I was wanting just a general idea of which side people consider themselves.

The General Forums in NS is swamped by liberals and hippies.

I know.

I am trying to see how many more liberals play nationstates compared to conservatives. I myself am a Conservative. This Poll is about what Liberal and Conservative is the two really major groups in America and there are many divisions of each. I was wanting just a general idea of which side people consider themselves.

The General Forums in NS is swamped by liberals and hippies.

I know.

The liberal scum piss me off very much. Although if I live in America, I would be considered to have leanings to the Democrats.

Has anyone devised a specific political standing for me?

I'd still like to know who this Kropotkin character was.

Oh, such humour. :þ

That's right, humoUr, so i'm keeping out of what seems to be an american thing *gg*

Kropotkin was a Russian Prince, born in the 19th century, that became an anarchist.

I am trying to see how many more liberals play nationstates compared to conservatives. I myself am a Conservative. This Poll is about what Liberal and Conservative is the two really major groups in America and there are many divisions of each. I was wanting just a general idea of which side people consider themselves.

The General Forums in NS is swamped by liberals and hippies.

I know.

That's the way it should be.

The reason why anarchists existed in the times of Tsarist Russia was because they have yet to experience democracy. It is a pity that these anarchist subhumans still exist today, even in democracies.

The reason why anarchists existed in the times of Tsarist Russia was because they have yet to experience democracy. It is a pity that these anarchist subhumans still exist today, even in democracies.

I'd suggest to go to www.politicalcompass.org and take the political test. The world isn't divided into right and left, there are other dimensions.

I'd suggest to go to www.politicalcompass.org and take the political test. The world isn't divided into right and left, there are other dimensions.

I've always had four: political, social, economic, and diplomatic. These guys only have two.

Here's my result on the political compass:

Economic Left/Right: 1.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 5.23

What can you say about me?

My political stadnings are not so defined. But I am a general right-winger. The following terms can be used to describe my political standings:

- Nationalistic
- Authoritarian
- Capitalistic
- Militaristic
- Atheistic
- Conservative/Moralistic
- Anti-liberal
- Anti-anarchy
- Anti-left

You mean fascist?

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Fascists don't believe in free market/capitalist economy, fat ass! Even if I am a fascist that is still better than being a subhuman anarchist.

I also have great respect for intellectuals, especially those of the natural sciences.

Even if I am a fascist that is still better than being a subhuman anarchist.

Well, that certainly sounds fascist if nothing else.

I more of a conservative But i dont care much about gay marraige but I hate the murder of babies.

Really? Have You Ever Tasted Baby? I mean Sure, It's Wrong and all but, once you get one bite, youll be impregnating woman all over 3rd world countries to eat some! *Pulls Out Frozen Baby and cooks it*
:twisted: :evil:

Economic Left/Right: -5.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00
ghandi is in the exact same spot as me! awesome!

When I did it a while ago, I got -9.8 on left/right, and -7 on libertarian/authoritarian, If I remember correctly

Economic Left/Right: -8.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.03

last time i did it i was close to ghandi... suppose i turned further left wing...

Here's my result on the political compass:

Economic Left/Right: 6.25 Right
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 4.25 Authoritarian

Fascists don't believe in free market/capitalist economy, fat ass! Even if I am a fascist that is still better than being a subhuman anarchist.

I also have great respect for intellectuals, especially those of the natural sciences.That's not actually true. While the vast majority of fascist parties have followed a corpratist economic model it's not neccesary. The British National Socialist Party is an example of a fascist party that believes in the free market system.

I think I'm a liberal. Economically, I'm a liberal, but I'm very anti-gay marriage and anti-abortion. I'm moderate on drugs, as I believe that marijuana should be decriminalized but not legalized, and other drugs should remain criminal.

center-right

I'd suggest to go to www.politicalcompass.org and take the political test. The world isn't divided into right and left, there are other dimensions.
The questions are misleading.

I think I'm a liberal. Economically, I'm a liberal, but I'm very anti-gay marriage and anti-abortion. I'm moderate on drugs, as I believe that marijuana should be decriminalized but not legalized, and other drugs should remain criminal.

You're a "Christian Socialist" (Provided, of course, you are christian :))

I think I'm a liberal. Economically, I'm a liberal, but I'm very anti-gay marriage and anti-abortion. I'm moderate on drugs, as I believe that marijuana should be decriminalized but not legalized, and other drugs should remain criminal.

You're a "Christian Socialist" (Provided, of course, you are christian :))

I think I'm a liberal. Economically, I'm a liberal, but I'm very anti-gay marriage and anti-abortion. I'm moderate on drugs, as I believe that marijuana should be decriminalized but not legalized, and other drugs should remain criminal.

You're a "Christian Socialist" (Provided, of course, you are christian :))

I think I'm a liberal. Economically, I'm a liberal, but I'm very anti-gay marriage and anti-abortion. I'm moderate on drugs, as I believe that marijuana should be decriminalized but not legalized, and other drugs should remain criminal.

You're a "Christian Socialist" (Provided, of course, you are christian :))

Yeah, I am a Christian. I don't get it why Christians think that socialism is wrong.

Only american ones :p I think the Christian Democrats are the ruling party in Italy right now.

Well, in Canada, where I live, it is pretty rampant. A friend of mine told her friends that I was a socialist, and they asked, "Don't you ever read the Bible?"

Yeah, I am a Christian. I don't get it why Christians think that socialism is wrong.
"Thou shalt not steal?"

What about moderates?

I think I'm too closed-minded on one particular issue to be liberal.

"Thou shalt not steal?"

Well, if you're going to take that tactic, then all taxes are stealing. Socialists just tax more than others.

I just did political compass again.

Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.82

Wow.

I just did Political Compass:

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18

Meaning? All I know is that the name "Nelson Mandela" is very close to where my policial leaning is.

RE: Lumping Bush and Hitler into the same group...

Not sure it's really an issue of that. Isn't being liberal or conservative a kind of absolute, like being dark or light; - or +; left or right; open or closed?

Nonsense. Liberals in Britain are centrist. Capitalism is liberal.

Would Americans PLEASE stop foisting their woefully misguided political terminology on us all?

Political Compass is the most overrated test that I've seen. :x

"Thou shalt not steal?"

Well, if you're going to take that tactic, then all taxes are stealing. Socialists just tax more than others.
I am, they are, and they do.

I just did political compass again.

Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.82

Wow.
Jesus. You're the first person I've seen on NS who's further to the left than me! Though I was more libertarian (about -9.3 or so).

That said, I agree with Libertovania (again? blimey...) that the poll is pretty flawed.

Oops. Puppet confusion alert...

RE: Lumping Bush and Hitler into the same group...

Not sure it's really an issue of that. Isn't being liberal or conservative a kind of absolute, like being dark or light; - or +; left or right; open or closed?

Nonsense. Liberals in Britain are centrist. Capitalism is liberal.

Would Americans PLEASE stop foisting their woefully misguided political terminology on us all?

I second.

Liberals in Belgium are centrist moderate capitalists, with both left and right elements within the party.

I am, they are, and they do.

So you think that George W. Bush is sinning by collecting taxes?

National Bolshevik here

I just did political compass again.

Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.82

Wow.
Jesus. You're the first person I've seen on NS who's further to the left than me! Though I was more libertarian (about -9.3 or so).

That said, I agree with Libertovania (again? blimey...) that the poll is pretty flawed.

Heheh, You can't get any more left than me :D

I think really, depending on the test, you could give or take 20% of those ratings.

National Bolshevik here

Damn, you guys are the weirdest political movement ever.

National Bolshevik here

Damn, you guys are the weirdest political movement ever.

I think you'll find that anarcho-dandyism takes that prize old chap.

National Bolshevik here

Damn, you guys are the weirdest political movement ever.

I think you'll find that anarcho-dandyism takes that prize old chap.

What, weirder than Commie Nazi's?

Please explain yours then. :lol:

I am, they are, and they do.

So you think that George W. Bush is sinning by collecting taxes?
I'm not a christian, but it is robbery or at best extortion. It's a protection racket, just like the mafia. Except they pretend to protect you from old age, poverty and your own careless self as well as private crime.

I'm not a christian, but it is robbery or at best extortion. It's a protection racket, just like the mafia. Except they pretend to protect you from old age, poverty and your own careless self as well as private crime.

So, then, how, then, do we stop people from killing us in our sleep?

I am, they are, and they do.

So you think that George W. Bush is sinning by collecting taxes?
I'm not a christian, but it is robbery or at best extortion. It's a protection racket, just like the mafia. Except they pretend to protect you from old age, poverty and your own careless self as well as private crime.

And also teach people how to read, stop them from dying from common illnesses, etc...

Seriously, who needs taxes :roll: /sarcasm

Have a read of The Chap Manifesto if you can find it, my good man. It outlines our espousal of the Shirk Ethic, the four sects of Chappist philosophy - Cads, Dandies, Poets and Hearty Fellows - the secret to making the perfect G&T and how to bring about anarcho-dandyist utopia through judicious employment of random acts of common courtesy.

Lest I forget, it also details the beneficial effects of heavy smoking and opiate consumption, plus the art of wooing the fillies. Diiing-dong.

So, then, how, then, do we stop people from killing us in our sleep?
If you want to pay someone to do that be my guest. But don't force me to pay it for you.
And also teach people how to read, stop them from dying from common illnesses, etc...

If you want to pay someone to do that be my guest. But don't force me to pay it for you.

There'd be much more wealth without govt tax/regulation/inflation and things would be cheaper due to competition and deregulation. The vast majority could afford what they need and everyone else relies on voluntary charity. And don't say charity can't guarantee these things because neither can the govt. If people didn't vote to "help" the poor why would the govt do it? If they vote for it why wouldn't they do it anyway?

So, then, how, then, do we stop people from killing us in our sleep?
If you want to pay someone to do that be my guest. But don't force me to pay it for you.
And also teach people how to read, stop them from dying from common illnesses, etc...

If you want to pay someone to do that be my guest. But don't force me to pay it for you.

There'd be much more wealth without govt tax/regulation/inflation and things would be cheaper due to competition and deregulation. The vast majority could afford what they need and everyone else relies on voluntary charity. And don't say charity can't guarantee these things because neither can the govt. If people didn't vote to "help" the poor why would the govt do it? If they vote for it why wouldn't they do it anyway?

Well, there was a lot of lassez-faire capitalism such as you suggest before the Great Depression, and look what happened. Besides, we're not all Paris Hilton rich.

I am trying to see how many more liberals play nationstates compared to conservatives. I myself am a Conservative. This Poll is about what Liberal and Conservative is the two really major groups in America and there are many divisions of each. I was wanting just a general idea of which side people consider themselves.

The General Forums in NS is swamped by liberals and hippies.
Absolutely. We're here to eat your babies and force you to engage in inter-racial same-sex marriages. Fear us.

So, then, how, then, do we stop people from killing us in our sleep?
If you want to pay someone to do that be my guest. But don't force me to pay it for you.
And also teach people how to read, stop them from dying from common illnesses, etc...

If you want to pay someone to do that be my guest. But don't force me to pay it for you.

There'd be much more wealth without govt tax/regulation/inflation and things would be cheaper due to competition and deregulation. The vast majority could afford what they need and everyone else relies on voluntary charity. And don't say charity can't guarantee these things because neither can the govt. If people didn't vote to "help" the poor why would the govt do it? If they vote for it why wouldn't they do it anyway?

Well, there was a lot of lassez-faire capitalism such as you suggest before the Great Depression.
It was not laissez faire. The state caused the depression with it's meddling, not the free market. FDR prolonged the depression for a decade and somehow got credited with fighting it! Sheesh.

It was not laissez faire. The state caused the depression with it's meddling, not the free market. FDR prolonged the depression for a decade and somehow got credited with fighting it! Sheesh.

In Canada, everyone said, "Let it be, it'll even itself out." It didn't work. Finally, people realized that they had to provide for the poor.

An old Tommy Douglas story even suggests that recession is caused by the rich not wanting quite so much.

It was not laissez faire. The state caused the depression with it's meddling, not the free market. FDR prolonged the depression for a decade and somehow got credited with fighting it! Sheesh.

In Canada, everyone said, "Let it be, it'll even itself out." It didn't work. Finally, people realized that they had to provide for the poor.

An old Tommy Douglas story even suggests that recession is caused by the rich not wanting quite so much.
I very much doubt the Canadians had a laissez faire policy. Even if they did, the fault for causing the recession lies with the US govt. The welfare state does not help the poor.

I very much doubt the Canadians had a laissez faire policy. Even if they did, the fault for causing the recession lies with the US govt. The welfare state does not help the poor.

Well, how would you help the homeless? Although, we probably should start a new thread.

conservative
"GO JAYS"

Well, how would you help the homeless? Although, we probably should start a new thread.
I'd build cheap houses 'cause there'd be no elaborate housing regulations or zoning restrictions. Good for me, good for them (and bad for the state and it's big business groupies).

The govt programs to provide houses have knocked down more than they've built. Plus they build relatively expensive ones. If you think the govt helps the homeless then why are there still loads of homeless? There's been welfare for, what, 70 years now?

'Pologies for the thread jacking.

centrist-leftist

um, you realize that there is more to poltical ideology than Liberalism or Conservatism. And even within those two, there's a bunch of differenct ideologies. i.e Classical and Welfare Liberalism, both noticeable different.

So, clearly, this little poll of yours is very flawed.

He's talking about the two American political parties. Not all their little subdivisions. I don't know of any type of liberal that would say they are conservative. When given a broad category they would pick liberal.

The poll is not flawed at all. It's just more broad then you'd like it.

Do me a favor and stop attempting to tout yourself as a figure of intelligence. Because that's not what you are.

Damn Cuneo.. you're a jerk...

I'm pretty much like Roach-Busters, although I'm not sure that view can be characterized as "conservative"(as many conservatives have betrayed the old ideals and embraced bigger, more authoritarian, government. ) My own political outlook is basically Constatutionalist.


Me too. I personally prefer the term 'constitutionalist' over 'conservative.'

Fascists don't believe in free market/capitalist economy, fat ass! Even if I am a fascist that is still better than being a subhuman anarchist.

I also have great respect for intellectuals, especially those of the natural sciences.That's not actually true. While the vast majority of fascist parties have followed a corpratist economic model it's not neccesary. The British National Socialist Party is an example of a fascist party that believes in the free market system.

Political parties often change their views on a certain number of issues to "suit the times". I can guarantee you that I am NOT a fascist scumbag.

Even if I am a fascist that is still better than being a subhuman anarchist.

Well, that certainly sounds fascist if nothing else.

How is communism and anarchy not subhuman? Such beliefs are against the ways of Man.

Even if I am a fascist that is still better than being a subhuman anarchist.

Well, that certainly sounds fascist if nothing else.

How is communism and anarchy not subhuman? Such beliefs are against the ways of Man.

Not all men- only those who could only care about themselves. Your labelling myself "subhuman" is something I find extremely offensive. Many of my ancestors were persecuted as "subhuman" by the nazi's.

I am trying to see how many more liberals play nationstates compared to conservatives. I myself am a Conservative. This Poll is about what Liberal and Conservative is the two really major groups in America and there are many divisions of each. I was wanting just a general idea of which side people consider themselves.

The General Forums in NS is swamped by liberals and hippies.
Absolutely. We're here to eat your babies and force you to engage in inter-racial same-sex marriages. Fear us.

Go on! You will have to use force if that is necessary and we will still beat you. Liberalism is a corrupt state of mind and thus, weak. The day a liberal subhuman comes knocking on my door- forcing me to engage in his subhuman practices is the day I'll have my Type 79 SMG ready to mow that S.O.B down!!!

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/individual/type79_submachine762_1.jpg

But that weapon was made by subhumans! :roll:

Even if I am a fascist that is still better than being a subhuman anarchist.

Well, that certainly sounds fascist if nothing else.

How is communism and anarchy not subhuman? Such beliefs are against the ways of Man.

Not all men- only those who could only care about themselves. Your labelling myself "subhuman" is something I find extremely offensive. Many of my ancestors were persecuted as "subhuman" by the nazi's.

I am not a racist but my nationalism is one inspired by Hitler. Hitler beleived that all German speaking peoples should be united. If that's the case of Germans why not the downtrodden Chinese?! They have a greater history of civlization than the Germans, yet they leack the vision of racial unity and glory.

I am also very pro-Semitic, admiring the undying nationalism of the Jews, despite a millenia of wandering, homelessness and persecution they can manage to reclaim and rebuild their former empire and even revenge on the races that drove them out off their home.

Therefore, you do not label me as a Nazi!

Even if I am a fascist that is still better than being a subhuman anarchist.

Well, that certainly sounds fascist if nothing else.

How is communism and anarchy not subhuman? Such beliefs are against the ways of Man.

Not all men- only those who could only care about themselves. Your labelling myself "subhuman" is something I find extremely offensive. Many of my ancestors were persecuted as "subhuman" by the nazi's.

I am not a racist but my nationalism is one inspired by Hitler. Hitler beleived that all German speaking peoples should be united. If that's the case of Germans why not the downtrodden Chinese?! They have a greater history of civlization than the Germans, yet they leack the vision of racial unity and glory.

I am also very pro-Semitic, admiring the undying nationalism of the Jews, despite a millenia of wandering, homelessness and persecution they can manage to reclaim and rebuild their former empire and even revenge on the races that drove them out off their home.

Therefore, you do not label me as a Nazi!

Then don't label me as a subhuman!

As I said- I find it extremely offensive for the above reason. Supporting a certain ideology does not make me any less human or worthy of being treated as such!

But that weapon was made by subhumans! :roll:

That weapon is made by NORINCO, the primary armourer of the Chinese Military. Are you calling the Chinese subhumans?! The Type 79 SMG is of indigenous design and manufacture.

But that weapon was made by subhumans! :roll:

That weapon is made by NORINCO, the primary armourer of the Chinese Military. Are you calling the Chinese subhumans?! The Type 79 SMG is of indigenous design and manufacture.

Not Chinese, communists. I know very well where it was made.

The Chinese were moderate in actual communist economics and they are not communist anymore, so it cannot be established as a communist state. The Type 79 was made after the Open and Reform so that can't be labelled as of communist manufacture.

Unlike the fascists and communists, I beleive in the unleashing of individualism as means to benefit the all supreme State. Afterall, individuals members of the race make up the State. Surely there is a Volkgeist (national spirit), but nationalism is incomplete without inidvidual contribution.

Unlike the fascists and communists, I beleive in the unleashing of individualism as means to benefit the all supreme State. Afterall, individuals members of the race make up the State. Surely there is a Volkgeist (national spirit), but nationalism is incomplete without inidvidual contribution.

Unlike the fascists and communists, I beleive in the unleashing of individualism as means to benefit the all supreme State. Afterall, individuals members of the race make up the State. Surely there is a Volkgeist (national spirit), but nationalism is incomplete without inidvidual contribution.

The Chinese were moderate in actual communist economics and they are not communist anymore, so it cannot be established as a communist state. The Type 79 was made after the Open and Reform so that can't be labelled as of communist manufacture.

:roll: I personally never ever called China or the USSR true communist- however here you are simply trying to use whatever fuel you can to attempt to maintain some credibility.

Now look- Lets call them "Authoritarian Socialist" or "State Capitalist". While they allow free market economics to some degree, there is still a large amount of government control over the economy. Therefore- I have thrown your argument about *ahem* "liberals" (pretty broad that, huh?) being subhuman in your face, yet you refuse to adknowledge this. China is still left-wing economically, and they still teach Marx in schools. Further more, the only party allowed is the Communist party. Yet, they aren't "subhuman" because they're "not communist anymore". Now to me, that is pretty flawed thinking on your part. Oh yes- And the gun is made in a state-owned factory.

Like I said, I don't think China is doing socialism correctly. However it is wrong to assume that they are a 100% capitalist society.

Honestly, do you have the same opinion of Vietnam as subhuman followers of socialist thought? After all, their "doi moi" restructuring makes them about as socialist as china...yet I suspect that somehow, because they have actually fought against America, you might hold a grudge there. Not accusing, just wondering.

So what if they still teach Marx (and his pipe dreams) at school, no Chinese person ever believed in it and I can guarantee you that such nonsense will be thrown out off the curriculum in two decades.

The image of today's China is not how I view as a perfect society. But I can assure you that I am not satisfied with the country of my birth.

As for the Vietnamese, I view the (along with many other South East Asians nations) as how Hitler viewed the Slavs.

As for the Vietnamese, I view the (along with many other South East Asians nations) as how Hitler viewed the Slavs.

Oh, that's truly wonderful. I'm of slavic descent, by the way. Fit only for slaves, eh? Thats disgusting, and you are a racist bigot.

As for the Vietnamese, I view the (along with many other South East Asians nations) as how Hitler viewed the Slavs.

You've got real problems, you know that, you little racist?

I'm very Conservative, and in no way shape or form believe any race or gender is superior to another. I actually don't really care what race or gender people are.

As for the Vietnamese, I view the (along with many other South East Asians nations) as how Hitler viewed the Slavs.

You've got real problems, you know that, you little racist?

I don't exactly see them as slaves, I see them as a threat the the Chinese race with their ever so increasing encroachment of Chinese territories and their desire to destroy China and enslave the Chinese.