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Wake up America!!!

Crossman
23-06-2004, 22:46
http://www.freewebs.com/crossman4america/Alan%20USA.JPG
Alan Crossman for President!!!

www.freewebs.com/crossman4america
USA Lovers
23-06-2004, 23:05
:lol: You wish!
The Canadian Tundra
23-06-2004, 23:09
Were I American, I would vote for you. Of course, you have some problems, like spelling. It's spelt construction, not contruction lol :D. Also, try some pictures, pictures get peoples attention, and the more pictures you have, the more people will be impressed.
Lance Cahill
23-06-2004, 23:29
I think it is a good idea, I like your politics.
Red Squad
23-06-2004, 23:39
well thanks to that I have narrowed down it between you and Bush...which one to pick?
Capitalizt War Party
24-06-2004, 00:10
Not bad. Unless there is another Bush running for office, I'll vote for you. BTW, the only thing I disagree with you on is that Americans should learn or even care about other cultures and countries, espescially when it comes to Arabs. The only reason they know about us is because we're number 1! I don't care what the Russians, Germans, French, and Britains think about us and neither should any other American. When the U.S. leads, the World follows. Whether they like us or not.
Freimachen
24-06-2004, 00:19
You know you're destined to fail as President when:

#76: Your official campaign website is a FreeWebs site.
Penguin Dictators
24-06-2004, 00:36
#77 you tell people to vote for you on a forums lol
GE0RGE DUBYA BUSH
24-06-2004, 00:52
I asked Dick. You don't get to be president till you are 35. It's in the Constitution.
Superpower07
24-06-2004, 00:56
Wake up America!!!

*yawn* Morning already?
Gronde
24-06-2004, 01:30
I asked Dick. You don't get to be president till you are 35. It's in the Constitution.
Did you read the whole thing? Right in one of the first paragraphs, he said that this leaves him 16 years to campaign!! :!: :!:

Anyways: I must say, it's not as bad as I expected. When I first read teh title, I was thinking: "Oh great. Probobly some French guy griping about our foreign policy." I was very pleasently suprised. You have gotten a good start. Now, all you need is $100+ million per year to advertise.
Crossman
24-06-2004, 02:00
You know you're destined to fail as President when:

#76: Your official campaign website is a FreeWebs site.

Yeah I know. I don't have the income right now to have my own domain name. But once I do I'll move the site.
Crossman
24-06-2004, 02:02
Were I American, I would vote for you. Of course, you have some problems, like spelling. It's spelt construction, not contruction lol :D. Also, try some pictures, pictures get peoples attention, and the more pictures you have, the more people will be impressed.

Really? I must have missed that one. Thanks for informing me. My spelling is quite good, I just type too fast sometimes. (Trying to keep up with my thoughts)

Yeah, I'm working on the pictures and I did have some, but I had to wipe my hard drive so they're mostly all gone.
Crossman
24-06-2004, 02:05
Wow, I didn't expect so many responses so quickly. Thank you all for your input and kind words. I hope you and more people like you will be around in 2024. As for the Canadian, just move down here so you can vote. :lol:

-Alan Crossman
Crossman
24-06-2004, 02:08
Anyways: I must say, it's not as bad as I expected. When I first read teh title, I was thinking: "Oh great. Probobly some French guy griping about our foreign policy." I was very pleasently suprised. You have gotten a good start. Now, all you need is $100+ million per year to advertise.

Heh heh, no I'm only French by blood, and that's only 1 out of 15 ethnicities (sorry if that's spelled wrong) I'm made up of.
Gronde
24-06-2004, 02:15
Hey, if this ever gets off the ground, can I be on your campaign team? That is, if I am not in West Africa conducting my plan to conquer the world at that. **No. No telling people of my secret plan** :roll: :roll:
Crossman
24-06-2004, 22:57
Hey, if this ever gets off the ground, can I be on your campaign team? That is, if I am not in West Africa conducting my plan to conquer the world at that. **No. No telling people of my secret plan** :roll: :roll:

Well I could always use an extra hand. Hey, if you're serious keep in contact with me. Email me at crossman4america@yahoo.com
Crossman
24-06-2004, 23:00
*bump*
Crossman
24-06-2004, 23:00
*bump*
Dempublicents
24-06-2004, 23:13
If you really are serious about one day running for president, you might want to make sure you understand how the government works. I know we can elect someone who doesn't (ie. George W. Bush), but I hope that people do actually want their candidates to know. So, with that in mind, please understand that the US is a representative republic, not a pure democracy.
Crossman
25-06-2004, 00:10
If you really are serious about one day running for president, you might want to make sure you understand how the government works. I know we can elect someone who doesn't (ie. George W. Bush), but I hope that people do actually want their candidates to know. So, with that in mind, please understand that the US is a representative republic, not a pure democracy.

Yes I'm quite aware of what the American system of government is.
Crossman
25-06-2004, 00:10
*bump*
Crossman
25-06-2004, 00:16
bump
Crossman
25-06-2004, 00:16
bump
Zabza
25-06-2004, 00:20
Cool. By then I'll be able to vote! (I'm only 16 now.. :) )
Crossman
25-06-2004, 00:26
Crossman
25-06-2004, 00:28
Cool. By then I'll be able to vote! (I'm only 16 now.. :) )

Excellent, well then I hope you'll vote for me.
Dempublicents
25-06-2004, 00:28
If you really are serious about one day running for president, you might want to make sure you understand how the government works. I know we can elect someone who doesn't (ie. George W. Bush), but I hope that people do actually want their candidates to know. So, with that in mind, please understand that the US is a representative republic, not a pure democracy.

Yes I'm quite aware of what the American system of government is.

Then when talking about what the American people do or do not know or take part in, you should say so, instead of saying it is a democracy.

Another thing I think you might want to put more thought into, and probably will by the time you are even my age (23) and certainly by the time you are 35, is the way you discuss the issue of abortion. Most people do not just flippantly say "I'm going to go out and get an abortion today because I made a mistake." The vast majority of people who get an abortion put a huge amount of agonizing thought into it before finally making that decision. It's not like everyone thinks it is "no big deal."

Another problem is your rant about how you can't support soldiers and not support the war. That is blatantly incorrect. You might be right if you said you can't support soldiers and not support *any* war, but you can withold support for a particular war. For instance, I fully support those who volunteer to defend this country - I think they are very brave and I have a great deal of respect for them. And if we were attacked by Belgium tomorrow, I would fully support those soldiers going over and killing a bunch of Belgians (don't ask me why I picked Belgium - I have no idea whatsoever). However, if Bush just kind of decided to go attack Belgium even though they hadn't done anything to us, I would see that as an unjustified war. Currently, I'm iffy on the Iraq issue, but there are those who see it as an absolutley unjustified war. That doesn't mean they don't support our soldiers.

However, I think you are dead on in your assessment of affirmative action and probably in your view on welfare as well, although I would need a more clarified view before I said that for sure =)
Crossman
25-06-2004, 00:28
Crossman
25-06-2004, 00:28
Cool. By then I'll be able to vote! (I'm only 16 now.. :) )

Excellent, well then I hope you'll vote for me.
Crossman
25-06-2004, 00:28
Cool. By then I'll be able to vote! (I'm only 16 now.. :) )

Excellent, well then I hope you'll vote for me.
Dempublicents
25-06-2004, 00:28
dp
Crossman
25-06-2004, 00:37
Another thing I think you might want to put more thought into, and probably will by the time you are even my age (23) and certainly by the time you are 35, is the way you discuss the issue of abortion. Most people do not just flippantly say "I'm going to go out and get an abortion today because I made a mistake." The vast majority of people who get an abortion put a huge amount of agonizing thought into it before finally making that decision. It's not like everyone thinks it is "no big deal."

Another problem is your rant about how you can't support soldiers and not support the war. That is blatantly incorrect. You might be right if you said you can't support soldiers and not support *any* war, but you can withold support for a particular war. For instance, I fully support those who volunteer to defend this country - I think they are very brave and I have a great deal of respect for them. And if we were attacked by Belgium tomorrow, I would fully support those soldiers going over and killing a bunch of Belgians (don't ask me why I picked Belgium - I have no idea whatsoever). However, if Bush just kind of decided to go attack Belgium even though they hadn't done anything to us, I would see that as an unjustified war. Currently, I'm iffy on the Iraq issue, but there are those who see it as an absolutley unjustified war. That doesn't mean they don't support our soldiers.

However, I think you are dead on in your assessment of affirmative action and probably in your view on welfare as well, although I would need a more clarified view before I said that for sure =)

Oh don't worry, I understand that having an abortion is a very hard choice. I find myself sometimes iffy about the whole "what if it happened to me" scenario. Its just my opinion, I don't support abortion unless its an extreme circumstance.

(Belgium, huh? I happen to be part Belgian, but I'll overlook that for the fact that it made me laugh.)

Honestly, I'm sort of iffy on the Iraq issue myself. I believe it had to happen sometime, whether it was the right time or not is where I'm not sure.

I'd also like to thank you for your repsonse. You can't go without a little criticism here and there. As I've said to everyone else, I thank you for your input.

-Crossman
Druthulhu
25-06-2004, 00:41
Interesting... you say that Americans stereotype the people of other lands, and in the same breath you say that we should throw off this stereotype of ourselves, which is presumably deserved. Just what IS your position on stereotyping?
Crossman
25-06-2004, 00:47
Interesting... you say that Americans stereotype the people of other lands, and in the same breath you say that we should throw off this stereotype of ourselves, which is presumably deserved. Just what IS your position on stereotyping?

Well, obviously I'm against it. I feel that we shouldn't be stereotyping other cultures in the way that many do. I also believe that we must try to improve our image so that we as Americans are not constantly stereotyped.
Druthulhu
25-06-2004, 00:48
...hmm... OK, so we should support every war that our leaders wish to get us into, or else we do not support our troops? You compare this to supporting police but being against them arresting people...

That is way oversimplified. It would be far more accurate to compare it to supporting the work of the police on general principle but being against our current prohibition ("War On Drugs") laws. Is that so incompatible?

Or, not knowing your politics so well yet, I will offer you some other possibilities. If a law was passed against 1) gun ownership 2) premarital sex among adults 3) public religious expression 4) abortion 5) protesting at abortion clinics or 6+) whatever else you just MIGHT be opposed to outlawing... would you "support the war on (thing you think we should be free to do)"? And... if you did not... would that make you "anti-cop"?

- Don't Waste Your Vote On This Guy
Waste Your Vote On Me

Rev. A.J. Harris
( legally able to serve already ;) )
Gronde
25-06-2004, 23:35
Crossman: I will probobly E-mail you every so often. And as my first action as a possible member of your possible campaign team: BUMP.
Crossman
26-06-2004, 03:36
Crossman: I will probobly E-mail you every so often. And as my first action as a possible member of your possible campaign team: BUMP.

Thank you very much.

Druthulhu: I can sort of see your point, but my opinions still stand. Maybe its just my youth, but its just how I feel. And no I'm not saying you have to support every war.
Crossman
26-06-2004, 03:44
*bump*
Crossman
26-06-2004, 03:58
*bump*
Druthulhu
26-06-2004, 04:26
Crossman: I will probobly E-mail you every so often. And as my first action as a possible member of your possible campaign team: BUMP.

Thank you very much.

Druthulhu: I can sort of see your point, but my opinions still stand. Maybe its just my youth, but its just how I feel. And no I'm not saying you have to support every war.

8)

No worries... you have what... 16 years to mature?

In the meantime, I propose that we join forces... in the formation of the Unelectables Party.

"The vast majority of the people who are eligable to vote in the nation are incapable of being elected. It's not that they're felons or non-native citizens or something... it's simply that the power structures that enable a person to put on the public image required to win have no interest in what the common people really want. This is why so many people who can vote do not. Given a "choice" between Coke and Pepsi they stick with water. If we can put before them a cantidate that offers them a real option, new ideas and a heart and soul that are not for sale, perhaps we can evoke enough interest to effect some real change. Until we do, however, until we join together on the web and on the radio and in the streets, the vast majority of Americans will remain unelctable."
PolishPansies
26-06-2004, 04:26
Wow, you have a lot to learn Crossman. I know its arrogant but I am 15 and it seems I could come up with a better platform than yours. I was offended when you said you cant support the troops and oppose the war! I am proud of American soldiers, they are doing what they are aupposed to yes following the orders of our commander in chief. I happen to disagree with those orders, so its not like being for police but not arresting people, a nice analogy, but actually isnt even related. Although I do agree with Americans caring too much about Entertainment Tonight and not the six oclock news. But who can blame them. And I would please ask that you remove that part where you compare Iraq to D-Day, thats just ignorant. I wont bother explaining that one. Affirmative action I agree with, except for colleges. Think about it, a person who is related to Alumni gets more credit than another, same for big donors, athletes, extra curriculers, why not give a slight advantage to a minority. If you are against race based college admissions that you should be against all this othe crap, and make it PURELY about educational skills. Your site overall is pretty fluffy on the issues, it doesnt really strike at the core of the issue. Hopefully with time you can improve it their certainly is room for it!
PolishPansies
26-06-2004, 04:35
oohh yeah! and if you are really serious about this political crap then i would STRONGLY! urge you to watch the entire series of The West Wing. You may not agree with what they say but Oh My GOD can you learn stuff. You cant even imagine. Buy the DVD's rent them or something. I would suggest this to anyone interested in White House Politics. you've got to pay attention though or you'll get lost.
Gronde
26-06-2004, 15:42
Yep, I'm still here.

Have you been spreading your advertisements to other forums? A large percentage of Americans from ages 13-18 are regularly on forums. If all of these people see your name all the time, it will get burned into their brain 16 years down the road, they will see your name and remember it, which will give you an early advantage.
Also, you should consider running for some smaller government type positions to build up a background. Even if you start by running for a position on your local school board. Then work your way up. School board-->Board president-->Small town mayor-->city mayor-->state representative--> and so on. You could also study law. What type of higher education are you looking into?
Crossman
26-06-2004, 21:35
In the meantime, I propose that we join forces... in the formation of the Unelectables Party.

"The vast majority of the people who are eligable to vote in the nation are incapable of being elected. It's not that they're felons or non-native citizens or something... it's simply that the power structures that enable a person to put on the public image required to win have no interest in what the common people really want. This is why so many people who can vote do not. Given a "choice" between Coke and Pepsi they stick with water. If we can put before them a cantidate that offers them a real option, new ideas and a heart and soul that are not for sale, perhaps we can evoke enough interest to effect some real change. Until we do, however, until we join together on the web and on the radio and in the streets, the vast majority of Americans will remain unelctable."

Hmm... an interesting concept. I'll keep it in mind. I'm always willing to create new partners rather than new enemies.

And I would please ask that you remove that part where you compare Iraq to D-Day, thats just ignorant.

Um, I'm not comparing the two. I'm comparing the amount of casualties and the fact that the American populace is weak and needs to look at the fact that we've been through much worse and that the situation is not as bad as the glorious media says it is.

I'm glad that you agree with some of my points.

and if you are really serious about this political crap then i would STRONGLY! urge you to watch the entire series of The West Wing

Okay, look Mr. 15 year old. I don't see how you can lecture me about politics and the like, when you refer to it as "this political crap".
Well yes I've heard that the West Wing is a very good television show, but in the end, its a television show. Some things on TV may be accurate, but overall, its just Hollywood. I think I can learn more from real politicians than a TV show about them. But, I'd have no problem checking the series out, seeing as it has gotten good reviews, as a TV show.
Crossman
26-06-2004, 21:35
*double post*
Crossman
26-06-2004, 21:36
Lance Cahill
26-06-2004, 22:02
I think it is a great idea to get started early then late, I am totally aganist affirmative action since I would rather see someone get a job or get into a school on their education and their job skills not their race or sex.
Crossman
26-06-2004, 23:14
I think it is a great idea to get started early then late, I am totally aganist affirmative action since I would rather see someone get a job or get into a school on their education and their job skills not their race or sex.

My point exactly.
CanuckHeaven
26-06-2004, 23:43
CanuckHeaven
26-06-2004, 23:44
Were I American, I would vote for you. Of course, you have some problems, like spelling. It's spelt construction, not contruction lol :D. Also, try some pictures, pictures get peoples attention, and the more pictures you have, the more people will be impressed.
Lard tunderin jezus bye!! Oh I am sorry....thats Tundra as in like frozen eh? Ya think us Canucks gots a bit of a problem wit spellin too?

Yeah Crossman....if ya want voters....add some sex appeal?
Lyra Vega
26-06-2004, 23:47
I think this dud needs help.... Maybe in your wildest dreams. :roll:
Lyra Vega
26-06-2004, 23:47
I think this dud needs help.... Maybe in your wildest dreams. :roll:
Lyra Vega
26-06-2004, 23:47
I think this dud needs help.... Maybe in your wildest dreams. :roll:
Lyra Vega
26-06-2004, 23:47
I think this dud needs help.... Maybe in your wildest dreams. :roll:
Crossman
28-06-2004, 03:18
I think this dud needs help.... Maybe in your wildest dreams. :roll:

Do you mean "dude"? But yeah I do need help. That's one reason for showing off the site.
Katganistan
28-06-2004, 03:26
http://www.freewebs.com/crossman4america/Alan%20USA.JPG
Alan Crossman for President!!!

www.freewebs.com/crossman4america

Jesus, my alarm doesn't go off until September, and you had to wake me up? ;)
Gronde
18-07-2004, 01:49
yep, I'm still around. And as my second action as a possible member of your possible campaign team: BUMP!
BTW, Crossman: you may want to make another thread with a different name that may attract more different people.
Roach-Busters
18-07-2004, 01:54
Zzzzz...huh, whah? Okay, I'm awake already!
Bodies Without Organs
18-07-2004, 01:58
http://www.freewebs.com/crossman4america/Alan%20USA.JPG
Alan Crossman for President!!!

www.freewebs.com/crossman4america


You do of course realise that the image you are using to promote your campaign comes under the description of a defacement of the US flag, no? Not exactly a vote winner right there...
Gronde
18-07-2004, 02:49
Incorrect. Defacing the American flag meens defacing the actuall, phisical flag, not its image. **granted, political opponants may see it differently**
Spoffin
18-07-2004, 02:52
You do of course realise that the image you are using to promote your campaign comes under the description of a defacement of the US flag, no? Not exactly a vote winner right there...
After looking over his issue profile, the flag is not his biggest problem.

The Iraq War: less casualties than D-Day

Whoop-dee-doo.
Bodies Without Organs
18-07-2004, 03:37
Incorrect. Defacing the American flag meens defacing the actuall, phisical flag, not its image. **granted, political opponants may see it differently**


Bizarrely enough, in this case the image of the flag is identical with the flag itself - the flag is a symbol, and the representation of that flag is identical to that symbol.


**granted, as a non-US citizen and no friend of the established powers in that country I am merely stirring for the sake of it, but my point remains a valid one**
Bodies Without Organs
18-07-2004, 03:38
After looking over his issue profile, the flag is not his biggest problem.

I have not yet dug that deeply.
Gronde
18-07-2004, 14:33
After looking over his issue profile, the flag is not his biggest problem.

The Iraq War: less casualties than D-Day

Whoop-dee-doo.

Well, I'll throw Crossman a bone here. Not only did we lose more on D-Day, we lost more soldiers due to Guerilla(spelling?) fighters in Berlin as the war ended and after the war was over than we have lost in Iraq. Although, there are some similarities between the two wars; both brought down bloodthirsty dictators who tried to kill entire ethnic groups...
Katganistan
18-07-2004, 19:15
http://www.freewebs.com/crossman4america/Alan%20USA.JPG
Alan Crossman for President!!!

www.freewebs.com/crossman4america

....now why did I have 150 phone calls this morning.....
...ungh....
...can't a girl sleep in peace without bunches of people ringing me to wake me up?


Or did you mean, "Wake up, America!"