NationStates Jolt Archive


Why, why, WHY?!?

Dontgonearthere
22-06-2004, 08:31
Ok, in 1997 or thereabouts, somebody with an extreme mental disability decided to take a certain classic novel by Robert Heinlin, change everything but the names, and call it Starship Troopers.
This of course caused almost everybody who saw the movie to instantly think that the book and the movie are the same. Which of course they arent.
Starship Troopers the BOOK is by far and away the better of the two, hell, the Starship Troopers computer game comes closer, both the 1970's version AND the 2000 version.
Now, the movie wasnt ALL bad, the news broadcasts were actually funny, and it was OK up until they got to basic and decided that everybody needed to shower naked...for 'realism', since our modern military showers naked.
But of course, women have to be in the military in the future, 'cause in the future EVERYTHING is integrated. And we cant have just any women, nope, nosir, 'cause in the future there ARE no fat chicks. So we just have whores now. Yessir, venerial disease of your choice!

Anyway...the thing that prompted this whole rant was the new movie, 'I, Robot' based on the book of the same name by Isaac Asimov, most likely the only author with a book under every Dewey Decimal.
Ok, when I first saw the little ads (posters and whatnot) I took a bit of heart since 'Three Laws' was displayed.
I figured, oh good, theyre going to have the Three Laws, which means there WONT be massive amounts of robot-oriented violence.
WRONG!
I saw the trailer today when I went to see Terminal (OK movie, but that would be going off topic), and whats this, why, I see robots killing people!
And of course, theyre surgicaly removing the main charecter, a robopsychiatrist, whose name I cant remember :P.
AND to top it all off Assimovs book as been re-released with a brand spankin-new cover, featureing, you got it, Will Smith in his leather jacket with his gun and red letters reading 'One man saw it coming'.
So, NOT ONLY do you piss of the Asimov fans, you piss of the people who want to get an early glimpse of the movie.
'Whats this crap about a lost robot? I WANT BLOODSPRAY! KILL THE GIRL ROBBIE! KILL HER!'
And when Robbie totaly fails to go postal and kill that b*tch of a mom his girl has they throw the book away and are totaly disgusted.

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For my finaly, I would like to say to any amature directors out there, if your going to make a movie, please dont rape classic novels, kill them and decorate their corpses with bright colours for all to see.
(REAL end to rant)
Incertonia
22-06-2004, 08:36
I've now seen the I, Robot trailer three times before various movies and it angers me more and more every damn time. They took a cerebral book and turned it into an action schlock fest. Ugh.
Zwange
22-06-2004, 08:38
Here here or hear hear :?
Dontgonearthere
22-06-2004, 08:38
Maybe I should buy a ticket, go to the theatre with a knife...once the movie comes on I run up to the screen, give it a few well placed slashes and run out the exist before the ushers can advance on me threateningly.
ITS THE PERFECT PLAN!
But Im too lazy...
Kuro Yume
22-06-2004, 08:39
I've now seen the I, Robot trailer three times before various movies and it angers me more and more every damn time. They took a cerebral book and turned it into an action schlock fest. Ugh.

yes. ive read the entire foundation series and LOVED it, i havent got to the robot series yet- but when i saw the trailer i was so pissed cuz im sure that the robot series is just as well done and intellectual as foundation. I cant believe they are turning asimov into men in black. ridiculous.
Zwange
22-06-2004, 08:40
So,according to movies,all women in the future will be sluts? Oh god i hope i don't become one! :shock:
Dontgonearthere
22-06-2004, 08:41
POST RESERVED FOR PETITIONS AND STUFF THAT I FIND...
I should have thought of this when I made the topic...

http://www.petitiononline.com/Asimov31/petition.html
(Change the title of upcoming I, Robot movie)
This I agree with, it wouldnt piss me off so much if it were called something else. Although it most likely wont happen.

http://www.talkaboutabook.com/group/alt.books.isaac-asimov/messages/31549.html
Thread linked to above petition

http://nice.purrsia.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=28;t=000615
Thread :P

I would do more, but theyre all basically the same.
Bodies Without Organs
22-06-2004, 08:46
Correct me if I am wrong, but according to Asimov's expanded laws of robotics, a robot would be allowed to kill a human if in doing so it was protecting humanity as a whole...

"Law zero: A robot may not injure humanity, or, through inaction, allow humanity to come to harm."

Anyhow, have you examined the possibility that said footage of robots hurting people are used as an explanation of how and why the laws came into being and were then programmed into robots?
Dontgonearthere
22-06-2004, 08:48
Somehow I dont think running amok in future-LA could save humanity...it might make it a bit better though, but thats why we have True Crime: Streets of LA.
Bodies Without Organs
22-06-2004, 08:50
Also, let's face it, who paid the estate of Isaac Asimov for the rights to make the film: the film company or the fans? I think you will find it was the film company, and so they have the rights to do what they will with the property.
Dontgonearthere
22-06-2004, 08:51
I still have a right to be royally pissed that theyre screwing up another great book.
Bodies Without Organs
22-06-2004, 08:52
I still have a right to be royally pissed that theyre screwing up another great book.

Indeed, but what they are doing is not altering the text of that novel in any way. It is still there for you to read and enjoy.
Kuro Yume
22-06-2004, 08:52
yes, that sux. id like to see a serious foundation movie though, itd be nice. serious as in, not an idiotic action flik starring a rapper.
Insane Troll
22-06-2004, 08:53
yes, that sux. id like to see a serious foundation movie though, itd be nice. serious as in, not an idiotic action flik starring a rapper.

Or worse, have you seen the trailers for white chicks?

Quite possibly the worst idea for a movie EVER.
Dontgonearthere
22-06-2004, 08:54
Yes, but a decent movie of the book would be nice, do what they did with LOTR, some modifications for the sake of not having a six hour movie that was boring, but keeping the original storyline at least :P

AND DONT MENTION MAKING MORE BOOKS INTO MOVIES! YOULL JINX IT!
Bodies Without Organs
22-06-2004, 08:59
I still have a right to be royally pissed that theyre screwing up another great book.

Indeed, but what they are doing is not altering the text of that novel in any way. It is still there for you to read and enjoy.

Sorry, it isn't actually a novel, come to think of it. Isaac Asimov never wrote a novel called "I, Robot" - and that title was borrowed from Eando Binder anyway.
Dontgonearthere
22-06-2004, 09:00
Your the one who called it a novel :P
Bodies Without Organs
22-06-2004, 09:04
Your the one who called it a novel :P

Yes, I know I did, and I knew that I had made a mistake, which is why I apologised.
Githania
22-06-2004, 09:20
yes, that sux. id like to see a serious foundation movie though, itd be nice. serious as in, not an idiotic action flik starring a rapper.

Movie would be too short. An extended series would be better.
the rise and fall of the 'foundation' by itself takes 3 to 4 hours at least.
Dontgonearthere
22-06-2004, 09:49
I had a good reply...but the forum ate it.
Thank God for the new server!
THE LOST PLANET
22-06-2004, 10:51
I've now seen the I, Robot trailer three times before various movies and it angers me more and more every damn time. They took a cerebral book and turned it into an action schlock fest. Ugh.I know what you mean, everytime I see the trailer I ask "what the f**k is this?". The only thing that could make it worse is if they use Alan Parson's "I, Robot" in the soundtrack.