NationStates Jolt Archive


Aliens, First Contact, etc. etc.

Dontgonearthere
19-06-2004, 10:27
Well, the best way, in my mind, to organize this is a questionair type thing.

1. Do you, or do you not, beleive in alien life forms from 'Beyond the Moon' or elsewhere?

2. How do you think our first contact will work out? Bad, good, Independance Day (IE: Aliens come, blow everything up)?

3. Do you think we have had previous contact with aliens?

4. Do you think past events (Stonehenge, pyramids, Atlantis) are the result of an alien influence?

5. Do you- (Snicker) think that the govornment is current being influced by an offworld source?

My answers, of course:
1. Yes, I think its absurd to say that out of an infinite amount of worlds only one could have possibly been granted life.

2. We can only hope that it turns out for the good. It may turn out as an independance day, or it may turn out like a book I once read, I cant remember the title...but...
Basicaly Earth is invaded by aliens with interstellar travel, massive ships which land and...well, as it turns out the aliens weapons have not progressed past black powder muskets.
So, the aliens land, after broadcasting a haughty surrender message, line up in nice neat formations, load ai- get mowed down by machine gun fire.
So eventually we capture a handy ship, the aliens thinking we must be a super-advanced culture, and the captain shows us how it works.
Of course, after the fact he (the ships captain) realises that we DONT have interstellar travel.
The last line of the book is 'Oh dear God, what have we done?'

3. Yup, maybe not as dramatic as some people think, but it seems likely that somebody came here for a look-round.
Maybe even a few modern stories are true, but I doubt that a majority (%90) are.

4. See number three.

5. No, not really. Mind rays seem a bit far fetched, even for aliens.
Zwange
19-06-2004, 10:30
1. Yes :D

2. I wanna see the world blowup

3. Uhhhhh

4. No,& i know the truth about Atlantis

5. Hmmm
BackwoodsSquatches
19-06-2004, 10:31
1. Yes. It is a mathmatical certainty, that life exists elsewhere in the universe.

2. Im not so certain it already hasnt....but I think eventually, it will happen publicly, and it will be a very nervous week.

3. Possibly.

4. No.

5. No.
Safalra
19-06-2004, 11:37
1. Do you, or do you not, beleive in alien life forms from 'Beyond the Moon' or elsewhere?

It would seem most likely they exist. ('Beyond the moon or elsewhere'? What, nearer than the moon?)

2. How do you think our first contact will work out? Bad, good, Independance Day (IE: Aliens come, blow everything up)?

It's going to be limitted to very slow radio communication for a long time - imagine it as two professors far apart writing letters to each other.

3. Do you think we have had previous contact with aliens?

No.

4. Do you think past events (Stonehenge, pyramids, Atlantis) are the result of an alien influence?

No. Wouldn't aliens use something more advanced than carved stone?

5. Do you- (Snicker) think that the govornment is current being influced by an offworld source?

No. Well, except in the sense that if aliens X light years away evolved more than X years ago, then they've had some effect on us.
Kanabia
19-06-2004, 11:57
1. Do you, or do you not, beleive in alien life forms from 'Beyond the Moon' or elsewhere?

It is more likely than not.

2. How do you think our first contact will work out? Bad, good, Independance Day (IE: Aliens come, blow everything up)?

I think that if they had the technological skill to travel between the stars, they would have evolved far beyond blowing the crap out of anyone that looks different.

3. Do you think we have had previous contact with aliens?
Possible, but I honestly doubt we're interesting enough for a much more advanced alien race to look into :lol:

4. Do you think past events (Stonehenge, pyramids, Atlantis) are the result of an alien influence?

Doubt it.

5. Do you- (Snicker) think that the govornment is current being influced by an offworld source?

No.
Taldaan
19-06-2004, 13:58
1. Yes.

2. Depends on the aliens, and whether we strike first. If we attack them, we're probably doomed, seeing as they haave the technology to get here. If we don't, we just have to hope they're friendly.
As to Kanabia's point, we're showing no signs of stopping racism (or even specieism) so far, why would they be any different?

3. Maybe, although as Kanabia said, we're probably fairly boring.

4. Possibly.

5. :D Probably not, but judging by some of our leaders... :D
Bodies Without Organs
19-06-2004, 14:00
1. Yes. It is a mathmatical certainty, that life exists elsewhere in the universe.

Really?

(Consider me as expressing my doubts that it is a mathematical certainty, rather than just a very high probability here.)
19-06-2004, 14:29
Well, the best way, in my mind, to organize this is a questionair type thing.

1. Do you, or do you not, beleive in alien life forms from 'Beyond the Moon' or elsewhere?

2. How do you think our first contact will work out? Bad, good, Independance Day (IE: Aliens come, blow everything up)?

3. Do you think we have had previous contact with aliens?

4. Do you think past events (Stonehenge, pyramids, Atlantis) are the result of an alien influence?

5. Do you- (Snicker) think that the govornment is current being influced by an offworld source?

My answers, of course:
1. Yes, I think its absurd to say that out of an infinite amount of worlds only one could have possibly been granted life.

2. We can only hope that it turns out for the good. It may turn out as an independance day, or it may turn out like a book I once read, I cant remember the title...but...
Basicaly Earth is invaded by aliens with interstellar travel, massive ships which land and...well, as it turns out the aliens weapons have not progressed past black powder muskets.
So, the aliens land, after broadcasting a haughty surrender message, line up in nice neat formations, load ai- get mowed down by machine gun fire.
So eventually we capture a handy ship, the aliens thinking we must be a super-advanced culture, and the captain shows us how it works.
Of course, after the fact he (the ships captain) realises that we DONT have interstellar travel.
The last line of the book is 'Oh dear God, what have we done?'

3. Yup, maybe not as dramatic as some people think, but it seems likely that somebody came here for a look-round.
Maybe even a few modern stories are true, but I doubt that a majority (%90) are.

4. See number three.

5. No, not really. Mind rays seem a bit far fetched, even for aliens.

You really are beyond help, aren't you?! :lol: You're a glorified train spotter in serius need of a brain scan.
Maybe your alien friends can sort one out for you. :wink:
Dontgonearthere
19-06-2004, 14:34
Whats that Mr. Troll? I think I hear the mods coming!
19-06-2004, 14:37
Whats that Mr. Troll? I think I hear the mods coming!

:? And that means what? Apart from confirming your labotomy op!
Kanabia
19-06-2004, 15:27
As to Kanabia's point, we're showing no signs of stopping racism (or even specieism) so far, why would they be any different?


Most likely, we're perhaps 500-1000 years away from reaching the same level of technical knowledge (perhaps longer, perhaps less, computers have accelerated research so much that it could be a mere 2 centuries). In order to reach that level of technology, you'd expect the society to be quite peaceful, without any nuclear wars or annihilation of large segments of population for a very long time.
Kanabia
19-06-2004, 15:28
As to Kanabia's point, we're showing no signs of stopping racism (or even specieism) so far, why would they be any different?


Most likely, we're perhaps 500-1000 years away from reaching the same level of technical knowledge (perhaps longer, perhaps less, computers have accelerated research so much that it could be a mere 2 centuries). In order to reach that level of technology, you'd expect the society to be quite peaceful, without any nuclear wars or annihilation of large segments of population for a very long time.
Kanabia
19-06-2004, 15:31
Whats that Mr. Troll? I think I hear the mods coming!

:? And that means what? Apart from confirming your labotomy op!

Seeing as you are new, i'll try and fill you in. You cannot insult someone to deliberately cause an argument, otherwise you are being a troll. You are likely to be deleted by the moderators if you keep that behaviour up. If you cant make an opinion without insulting people, just keep your mouth shut.
Jordaxia
19-06-2004, 15:56
1: Yes, no doubt about it.

2: Probably fairly unevenly, but I'd hope good.

3: More than likely, but whether it was more than a fly through, I dunno.

4: Possibly, though it's doubtful, compared with the possibility that they have merely been here.

5: nah, because it'd be pretty boring.
20-06-2004, 12:35
Whats that Mr. Troll? I think I hear the mods coming!

:? And that means what? Apart from confirming your labotomy op!

Seeing as you are new, i'll try and fill you in. You cannot insult someone to deliberately cause an argument, otherwise you are being a troll. You are likely to be deleted by the moderators if you keep that behaviour up. If you cant make an opinion without insulting people, just keep your mouth shut.

You need to keep up with the threads darlin'. New, I am not.
And I don't use my mouth to use a keyboard - maybe I should sit on my hands! :lol:
BackwoodsSquatches
20-06-2004, 12:54
1. Yes. It is a mathmatical certainty, that life exists elsewhere in the universe.

Really?

(Consider me as expressing my doubts that it is a mathematical certainty, rather than just a very high probability here.)

Its like this.

(Im very tired, and more than a little high from last night, so please exscuse my fuzzy logic.)

Lets say that there are 50 billion stars in the Milky Way Galaxy alone.
If .001 percent of those stars have planetary sytems orbiting them...
that leaves 50,000,000 planets.

Lets assume that o.o1 percent of those planets have the capability of sustaining life as we know it.
that leaves...
5 million planets that CAN sustain life.

do it again..only this time we'll say that out of this estimate, 0.0001 percent of them actually DO contain life....

Thats still 500 planets within the Milky Way Galaxy alone, that have life on them.

Now imagine how many stars there are in the universe.
Dontgonearthere
20-06-2004, 20:30
Of course...theres an infinite number of UNinhabited planets...so the universes population averages out to close to zero :) Nah...not really.

Anyway, I just dont see a Universal Census turning up with:
Known Universe:
Population: 6.7 billion
Of course, thats what it is know, but you get the point ;)

I do SEE:
Known Universe:
Population: 765 Quintillion^8
Cricket1
21-06-2004, 08:41
There are only 3 inhabited planets in the entire universe.

This is a fact. I have visited all three. Too much information can't be disclosed as my race is determined not to come amonst your people for another 500 years.

I will inform you of this only - 1 planet is called Efilateg, the other is laerrof uoyera. At least, this is how they would translate into your English language.

Debating this subject is pointless. The facts will never match the assumptions.
Self_righteous_tuna
21-06-2004, 09:49
1. I'm quite certain that other intelligent life exists *somewhere* in the universe.

2. Will we ever MAKE contact with space aliens? I don't know. If we ever do, it probably won't be face-to-face at first, if ever.

3. Doubtful.

4. If you mean "alien" as in by intelligent extraterrestrial life, absolutely not.

5. Sorry, no. I'm not The Red Arrow.
Kanabia
21-06-2004, 10:33
Whats that Mr. Troll? I think I hear the mods coming!

:? And that means what? Apart from confirming your labotomy op!

Seeing as you are new, i'll try and fill you in. You cannot insult someone to deliberately cause an argument, otherwise you are being a troll. You are likely to be deleted by the moderators if you keep that behaviour up. If you cant make an opinion without insulting people, just keep your mouth shut.

You need to keep up with the threads darlin'. New, I am not.
And I don't use my mouth to use a keyboard - maybe I should sit on my hands! :lol:

Hahahahahaha, looks like he got DEAT.
Cricket1
21-06-2004, 10:38
Blatantly ignore my post and continue to waste your time if you wish, but what I have said previously is the truth.

If humans continue to speculate this subject, we will find future integration extremely difficult.
Sydia
21-06-2004, 10:41
1. Do you, or do you not, beleive in alien life forms from 'Beyond the Moon' or elsewhere?
Likely not in our solar system, but somewhere. And by 'alien life forms', I counting things like bacteria and the like.

2. How do you think our first contact will work out? Bad, good, Independance Day (IE: Aliens come, blow everything up)?
Depends on how far away they are. Since the first form of contact from us to them will be radio waves in early TV transmitions I'd guess they'd send a return signal.
If it's primitive life, a probe will probably pick it up off rock samples.

3. Do you think we have had previous contact with aliens?
No. The distances are far too great for trivial tasks like abducting the odd redneck.

4. Do you think past events (Stonehenge, pyramids, Atlantis) are the result of an alien influence?
Not a chance.

5. Do you- (Snicker) think that the govornment is current being influced by an offworld source?
Sometimes I wonder what planet some politicians are from...
Upper Virginia
21-06-2004, 10:56
1. Do you, or do you not, believe in alien life forms from 'Beyond the Moon' or elsewhere?

My Opinion: As others have said, it is very likely that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. Unless, of course, supernovas are far more common that we think and they tend to sterilize planets in neighboring star systems that may harbor life. In that case, life in general, and intelligent life in particular may be quite rare.

2. How do you think our first contact will work out? Bad, good, Independence Day (IE: Aliens come, blow everything up)?

My Opinion: First Contact will likely be via radio, meaning we will be receiving transmissions from possibly long-dead civilizations and sending our responses out to perhaps yet uncivilized worlds. If we ever meet aliens face-to-face, it will likely follow one of three scenarios

a. We develop some kind of "hyper-drive" and find aliens with their own version of FTL travel and we are able to engage in either mutually beneficial trade or some kind of balanced warfare. Given the likely differing rates of technological advancement among civilizations, this is probably the least likely scenario.

b. We develop hyper-drive and find less advanced aliens. We then either ignore them to protect them, conquer them to exploit them or benevolently raise them to our level of technology.

c. The aliens develop hyper-drive and come here. They, then, would ignore us, conquer us or become our benefactors.

3. Do you think we have had previous contact with aliens?

My Opinion: Unlikely. We haven't been conquered and we haven't been the recipients of interstellar benevolence. It is hypothetically possible that aliens have visited and have imposed some kind of protective quarantine around us, but there is no real physical evidence to support that theory.

4. Do you think past events (Stonehenge, pyramids, Atlantis) are the result of an alien influence?

No.

5. Do you- (Snicker) think that the government is current being influenced by an offworld source?

No.
Pudsville
21-06-2004, 10:59
Well, the best way, in my mind, to organize this is a questionair type thing.

1. Do you, or do you not, beleive in alien life forms from 'Beyond the Moon' or elsewhere?

I believe that somewhere out there, intelligent life exist. The universe is so big, statistics prove there have to be some other place where evelution made sure something grew up.

2. How do you think our first contact will work out? Bad, good, Independance Day (IE: Aliens come, blow everything up)?

Kinda like that old movie where they all go around building that same mountain "this means something. this is important".
"3rd degree encounter" or something I think it was called. If they can travel through space to other planets, they'll be as curious about us, as we are about them!
There might be a misunderstanding, of course, and they might choose to blow us all to bits, but not until they've attempted contact nd check if we're friendly or not.

3. Do you think we have had previous contact with aliens?

No.

4. Do you think past events (Stonehenge, pyramids, Atlantis) are the result of an alien influence?

no.

5. Do you- (Snicker) think that the govornment is current being influced by an offworld source?

Depends on what government you're thinking of. I mean, there's a bunch of countries on this planet, and I'm not even gonna list all of them. But I believe that alot of governments are influenced by people (human) that has no buisniss running any country at all!

My answers, of course:
1. Yes, I think its absurd to say that out of an infinite amount of worlds only one could have possibly been granted life.

2. We can only hope that it turns out for the good. It may turn out as an independance day, or it may turn out like a book I once read, I cant remember the title...but...
Basicaly Earth is invaded by aliens with interstellar travel, massive ships which land and...well, as it turns out the aliens weapons have not progressed past black powder muskets.
So, the aliens land, after broadcasting a haughty surrender message, line up in nice neat formations, load ai- get mowed down by machine gun fire.
So eventually we capture a handy ship, the aliens thinking we must be a super-advanced culture, and the captain shows us how it works.
Of course, after the fact he (the ships captain) realises that we DONT have interstellar travel.
The last line of the book is 'Oh dear God, what have we done?'

3. Yup, maybe not as dramatic as some people think, but it seems likely that somebody came here for a look-round.
Maybe even a few modern stories are true, but I doubt that a majority (%90) are.

4. See number three.

5. No, not really. Mind rays seem a bit far fetched, even for aliens.

-edit- I think I spelled buisness wrong. Too lazy to check in a dictionary ATM.