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Best film about Nuclear War?

Bodies Without Organs
18-06-2004, 03:13
Inspired by the thread about hiding under desks...

I won't bother doing a poll, because that'll just end up with complaints about why films X, Y & Z were excluded and allegations of a worldwide conspiracy carried out by the 'lizard people' against their makers.

Anyhow, my choice:

Threads.

Hands down.
Jordaxia
18-06-2004, 03:15
DR Strangelove.
There can be no doubt.
"We'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when..."
The Black Forrest
18-06-2004, 03:16
Never heard of it. Will have to look into it.

I remember "The Day After" A town away from the blast but slowly dying from the fallout.....
NewXmen
18-06-2004, 03:16
My choise was the Hiroshima documentory. The rest of the films are poor fiction..
Serengarve
18-06-2004, 03:16
DR Strangelove.
There can be no doubt.
"We'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when..."

As if there's any other.

"Mr. President, we can NOT allow a mineshaft gap, with the Russians!"
The Black Forrest
18-06-2004, 03:17
eww eww I remember one.

An old Black and White called Black Rain. Made in Japan.....
Zyzyx Road
18-06-2004, 03:18
Never heard of it. Will have to look into it.

I remember "The Day After" A town away from the blast but slowly dying from the fallout.....

YES! That movie is great, nothing like seeing rural Kansas towns get nuked.
Bodies Without Organs
18-06-2004, 03:32
YES! That movie is great, nothing like seeing rural Kansas towns get nuked.

...ignore that sound of screaming, its just Zyzyx Road being dragged away for interrogation by the Department of Homeland Security...
The Mok
18-06-2004, 03:45
There's one called "The Beach". I think it's that one about the Australians going around in the submarine only to find that they're the only ones left and the wolrd nuked itself to hell....
Fluffywuffy
18-06-2004, 03:59
Even though it doesn't have an actual nuclear war (yet it does have a nuking) I liked the Sum of All Fears. Never read the book or whatever, but the movie was good to me.
Bodies Without Organs
18-06-2004, 04:02
There's one called "The Beach". I think it's that one about the Australians going around in the submarine only to find that they're the only ones left and the wolrd nuked itself to hell....

That'ld be "On The Beach" based on the Nevil Shute novel. I've still got to get around to seeing that one.
Daistallia 2104
18-06-2004, 04:05
Fail Safe.

Even though it doesn't have an actual nuclear war (yet it does have a nuking) I liked the Sum of All Fears. Never read the book or whatever, but the movie was good to me.

Eeeewwwww! Bad movie. Good book. Do yourself a favor and read it.
Bodies Without Organs
18-06-2004, 04:06
Fail Safe.

The other film based on the same novel as Dr. Strangelove?

Is the ending not a tad ...implausible?
Poorbastards
18-06-2004, 04:14
There is a film called "Rhapsody in August". It is Japanese but in english. It has Richard Gere in it. Great movie for nuke film lover.
Incertonia
18-06-2004, 04:26
DR Strangelove.
There can be no doubt.
"We'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when..."That's the one.
Stirner
18-06-2004, 04:28
Shall we play a game?

WarGames!

No, just kidding. Strangelove for sure. It managed to capture all the absurdity.
Jordaxia
18-06-2004, 04:34
You mean the nuking of earth? No, not at all. If a nuke hits Russia, and there is a machine designed to fire them all the nuclear missiles in Russia back, then it will. Nothing implausible there. Just absurd, like stirnir said.
Jordaxia
18-06-2004, 04:35
You mean the nuking of earth? No, not at all. If a nuke hits Russia, and there is a machine designed to fire them all the nuclear missiles in Russia back, then it will. Nothing implausible there. Just absurd, like stirnir said.
Bodies Without Organs
18-06-2004, 04:43
You mean the nuking of earth? No, not at all. If a nuke hits Russia, and there is a machine designed to fire them all the nuclear missiles in Russia back, then it will. Nothing implausible there. Just absurd, like stirnir said.

I'm not sure if this is directed at me and my comments about the end of the film Fail Safe. Is it?
Stirner
18-06-2004, 04:45
I'm not sure if this is directed at me and my comments about the end of the film Fail Safe. Is it?
Yes, I'm pretty sure they are.
Jordaxia
18-06-2004, 04:47
Yes, it is. Should have made that clear when I was posting. Maybe said it was to you, or something.
Of course, I might be completely wrong, as I didn't read what you were saying correctly. I thought you were referring to the end of Dr Strangelove.
Bodies Without Organs
18-06-2004, 04:49
I'm not sure if this is directed at me and my comments about the end of the film Fail Safe. Is it?
Yes, I'm pretty sure they are.

I'm saying that the US President giving the order to nuke NYC seems a tad implausible. Doesn't this strike anyone else as unlikely?
The Katholik Kingdom
18-06-2004, 04:49
It wasn't a movie, it was a Twilight Zone episode, "Time Enough at Last."

It was about a guy who all he wants to do is read, but his wife hates him for it and he gets in trouble at the bank where he works for it. So one day he goes down in the vault to read, and then it's

ATOMIC HOLOCAUST!

He's the only one left, and he's about to kill himself,then he sees the library survived. He gets real excited, then his glasses breaks. Real depressing stuf.
Bodies Without Organs
18-06-2004, 04:52
He's the only one left, and he's about to kill himself,then he sees the library survived. He gets real excited, then his glasses breaks. Real depressing stuf.

Hey: he has got the rest of his life to do any one of the following:

1. find another pair of glasses.
2. learn how to grind lenses.
3. find the LARGE PRINT section of the library.
4. learn braille.
Jordaxia
18-06-2004, 06:07
http://www.lukefisher.com/slaughtr.wav

Clickety click, I hope it works. It's my favourite quote from the doctor.
Proof it is the best.
Attitude 910
18-06-2004, 08:38
Wargames is the best movie cause it shows the true consequences of nuclear war
New Auburnland
18-06-2004, 08:40
My choise was the Hiroshima documentory. The rest of the films are poor fiction..
good call


As far as fiction goes, I have to place Red Dawn in there (even though there is no mention on a nuclear attack shown in the movie)
Bodies Without Organs
18-06-2004, 13:49
Wargames is the best movie cause it shows the true consequences of nuclear war

Eh? Despite the fact that no nuclear war takes place in the film?
Huzen Hagen
18-06-2004, 15:07
I can't think of the name but there was this British film/documentary that got banned during the cold war because it portrayed an attack on England so accuratly it was deemed a threat to nation security
18-06-2004, 15:27
There's one called "The Beach". I think it's that one about the Australians going around in the submarine only to find that they're the only ones left and the wolrd nuked itself to hell....

Yeah thats the only one I've seen apart from the day after And I loved it.

Does fallout count. That game kicks ass.
Jeldred
18-06-2004, 15:32
On the Beach is a good film. So is When the Wind Blows. But I think my favourite is Miracle Mile.
DontPissUsOff
18-06-2004, 15:37
HH: It was called The War Game. My grandparents own a copy of the book. Nasty. I recall most clearly the bit where they guy's eyeball juices cook due to the blast heat.
Huzen Hagen
18-06-2004, 15:38
HH: It was called The War Game. My grandparents own a copy of the book. Nasty. I recall most clearly the bit where they guy's eyeball juices cook due to the blast heat.

So it was, superb film.
18-06-2004, 15:39
We should compile a whole list of anything that could vaugly pass as a nuke movie. But dont watch it all at once, You'd likely get so depressed you'd crawl up your ass and die.

I've only seen the T.V mvoie version of on the beach. Havnt seen the orginal. Had a lot of good actors I hear.

Also, Fallout Tactics is lame, I finished it. Apparently it wasnt made by blackisle which would be the reason. But allout 3 should be good.
Safalra
18-06-2004, 15:44
Anyhow, my choice:

Threads.

Hands down.

I'd agree with you there. Quite brilliant. Shame it hasn't had a wider audience. For those how haven't heard of it, here's the page on the Internet Movie Database:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090163/
18-06-2004, 15:49
Strategic nuclear war probably will never happen. But these days wars are already nuclear. What with nuclear reactors and depleted uranium.
But tactical nuclear weapons are another story. You could never go strategic without harming yourself, but tactical can even be made relatively clean. They never did polute much, you jut have to worry about local effects and the wind. The U.S is reducing its stretegic arsenal but working hard to increase its tactical. But these will just be a stopgap till they find a way to make Nucelar Isomer weapons.

Assuming the coalition doesnt invade Iran or any other country for a few years. The next large war will be nuclear. Expect the public to be weaned onto them sooner or later.

"They leave no residual radition"
"They can be burried deep enough to contain all fallout effects"
And other BS
Bodies Without Organs
18-06-2004, 16:48
Anyhow, my choice:

Threads.

Hands down.

I'd agree with you there. Quite brilliant. Shame it hasn't had a wider audience. For those how haven't heard of it, here's the page on the Internet Movie Database:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090163/

Here is a reasonable review of it, but I don't entirely agree with his claims that the film is very dated now:

http://www.ashleypomeroy.com/threads.html

We needn't mention the slight gaffe which gives the girl at the very end of the film a mouth full of clearly visible fillings when she is screaming...
BoogieDown Productions
18-06-2004, 16:55
18-06-2004, 17:01
I didnt realise the day after was a TV movie.
BoogieDown Productions
18-06-2004, 17:02
Dr Strangelove. Hands down no contest
Daistallia 2104
18-06-2004, 17:15
Fail Safe.

The other film based on the same novel as Dr. Strangelove?

Is the ending not a tad ...implausible?

Nope. Dr. Strangelove was based on Red Alert by Peter George and Fail Safe was based on Fail Safe by Eugene Burdick and Harvey Wheeler. However, the plots were close enogh to cause accusations of plagerism...
Daistallia 2104
18-06-2004, 17:17
Fail Safe.

The other film based on the same novel as Dr. Strangelove?

Is the ending not a tad ...implausible?

Nope. Dr. Strangelove was based on Red Alert by Peter George and Fail Safe was based on Fail Safe by Eugene Burdick and Harvey Wheeler. However, the plots were close enogh to cause accusations of plagerism...
The Demon Head
18-06-2004, 17:32
Dr. Strangelove.

Nothing like riding the nuke like a cowboy!
18-06-2004, 17:34
Good sybolism there but really, Just a tad unrealistic dontcha think?
Commack
18-06-2004, 18:35
Strangelove was the best movie, but the one nuke story that really scared me was a made for tv movie on nuke terrorism called "Special Bulletin”. It was done as a faux “live” news report about an anti-nuke group building a bomb on a tug boat, and sailing it into Savannah harbor.
Superpower07
18-06-2004, 18:49
Tho I never saw it, wasn't Thirteen Days based off of the Cuban Missle Crisis?
Fliedlice
20-06-2004, 01:45
I watched "The Day After" just recently, after buying it on DVD. I have to say that, even though the blasts and mushroom clouds and the whole "skeletons appearing after the blast as people die and then quickly diappearing" thing was corny and cheesy, the rest of the movie was superb.

Also, Fallout 1 and 2 are the best postapocalyptic games ever. Possibly the best games alltogether PERIOD.


PS: Yes, I know, Fallout: Tactics SUCKED.
Tremalkier
20-06-2004, 01:53
Dr. Strangelove cannot ever be challenged as the single greatest nuclear-war movie of all-time.

"You must protect your precious bodily fluids!"

"Yes mon fuhrer...er Mr. President"

"Yes, 9 women to one man. Big beautiful blond women, with blue eyes!"
Ish-mael
20-06-2004, 10:15
Totally shocked that "A Boy and His Dog" hasn't come up yet. If you haven't seen it, this is the time to run to the nearest non-Blockbuster video store to rent it.
Insane Troll
20-06-2004, 10:20
Fail Safe.



That was the first thing that came to my mind.
Carlemnaria
20-06-2004, 10:57
David Brin's the postman. don't know if they ever made a movie about it.

back in duck and cover days there was something called alas babalon

don't remember anything about it
i guess it was ok though

Harlan Ellison's boy and his dog
wasn't about a war but the aftermath
of some unspecified socioeconomic meltdown with subsiquent population implosion of somekind

there was an x rated something called atomic cafe that was kind of a trip. if i'm not getting the name of two things i saw togather mixed up. the othere was a compilation of documentaries of what they were telling people back in the fifties. anybody remember fallout shelters?

dean ing wrote a survivalist guide sort of thing in the eighties.

i honestly can't think of anything specificly about the goings on of nuke ware except perhapse the already mentioned dr straingelove, and even that was blatently satyrical, which is good as far as it goes of course.

my favorite post petrolium, postecocolapse, post unspecified who all knows whatever possibly else would have to be leguinne's always comming home. (which has absolutely nothing to do with possible contemporary nuclear conflict)

really surviving human populations in a post nuclear poluted invironment make for i think far more interesting story telling

but i guess that's just me

i know a lot of them have been done
maby overdone and some have been done cheezy and rediculous. like the mad max context, though that one again more post petrolium post population implosion then anything about billigerantly tossing nukes arround.

well huge potential destruction is one of those kind of cheep shot things as a plot device so of course they can mostly be pretty much expected to be done rediculous and cheezey.

real devistations we face are a bit less dramatic but no less profound. of course nobody seems to want to hear about what the're into themselves that nearly everyone they know is also being reall sources of the same real problems they and everyone they know complain about.

not that nuke ware isn't a real risk that could happen. it's just that things we are taking for granted are happening and causing just as much if not more harm ultimately. just less dramaticly and less scapegoatably.

=^^=
.../\...
Eugenicai
20-06-2004, 11:14
Dr Strangelove.

"Hey! You can't fight in here! This is the war room!"
Vonners
20-06-2004, 11:16
Threads
Reactivists
20-06-2004, 16:07
Dr. Strangelove.
To be fair, I haven't seen most of the others mentioned (except for "Wargames", which was not what I expected at the time), but "How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb" (best alternate title ever?) is one of the best films ever, so in a nuke films list, I can't see how it could lose.
BTW, there was a film of "The Postman", with Kevin Costner as the star. It bombed!
20-06-2004, 18:38
Yes. I was about to mention that. It totally Kicks!
Daistallia 2104
20-06-2004, 18:56
David Brin's the postman. don't know if they ever made a movie about it.

Great book, but the movie was a serious Kevin Costner FkUp. Almost as bad as Waterworld.
Tremalkier
20-06-2004, 18:57
Dr. Strangelove.
To be fair, I haven't seen most of the others mentioned (except for "Wargames", which was not what I expected at the time), but "How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb" (best alternate title ever?) is one of the best films ever, so in a nuke films list, I can't see how it could lose.
BTW, there was a film of "The Postman", with Kevin Costner as the star. It bombed!
*Shudders* The Postman, what a goddawful wreck of a movie
Daistallia 2104
20-06-2004, 19:00
Strangelove was the best movie, but the one nuke story that really scared me was a made for tv movie on nuke terrorism called "Special Bulletin”. It was done as a faux “live” news report about an anti-nuke group building a bomb on a tug boat, and sailing it into Savannah harbor.

I was trying to remember the name of that one earlier! Thanks. :)
Sheilanagig
20-06-2004, 19:21
I'm surprised to see that nobody's mentioned The Day After or When the Wind Blows.

The Day After was a movie I watched with my fiance for the first time. It had John Lithgow and Steve Gutenberg in it, and a mushroom cloud on the cover, but due to the talent in it, we thought it might be a comedy/action flick. We spent the next two hours in horror. I was just dumbstruck. I live in an area just dotted with missile silos, and seeing the missiles coming out of the ground in the film made me nervous. I would know how it felt. You'd have a matter of hours to make peace with your maker.

When the Wind Blows is animated, with a soundtrack from the likes of David Bowie and The Who. It's another one you don't want to watch too often. You feel like going outside and taking a run, once you've cried your eyes out. It's about an elderly couple who survived the blitz, and they are on the edge of the blast area. They only remember bombs that were over once they exploded. They spend the days after the blast wondering what happened to the milkman, and the mailman. Why hasn't their son called from London? Their hair starts to fall out, and sores appear on their bodies. They die in each others' arms of radiation poisoning. It's the definition of pathos and tragedy.
Renard
20-06-2004, 19:47
Threads, without a doubt, I've seen Dr. Strangelove and it's not even close: Nothing so accurately shows what would happen after a nuclear war, the mute missery, the cold, the starvation...

I watched it on Christmas Day a few years ago (I'd been hunting for it) and have never watched it since.
Andolai
20-06-2004, 20:17
I'd say Threads (I was depressed for days after seeing that back in my teenage years), followed by Dr. Strangelove, Special Bulletin, and Fail-Safe in no particular order.

The Day After doesn't hold up for me for some reason or another.