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Read here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=153993), then, comment here with your well-wishes.

Yes, Steph, it's been a pleasure knowing you as both a mod and a player, and I look forward to hearing more of what you have to say politically as a player from this point on.

Best wishes, and all the wellest wishes to you and your family!

The end of an era.

-_- Out of all of the moderators, she was my favourite. Her modly-ways will be greatly missed by the likes of me.

Noooooooooooo! Can we have elections for the next Mod?

Stephanistan, i mourn the loss of your modness but am glad you are sticking around :)

Good luck finishing the PhD. That's a lot of work, no question, and so is being a parent. And I'm glad to hear you'll still be around too.

Crossposted in Moderation.

We can treat her like a normal person now! Like a peer! Not a...leader...I guess...

five bucks says tuesday gets the job... :D

*doesn't know Stephistan well*

Boo she's not a mod anymore :shock:

five bucks says tuesday gets the job... :DSeconded! Case Closed. End of discussion. Next item up for business? Let's see...The Great Ape of Eurasia...What?...

Hey Steph, is there any chance that, as a sort of going away present for us lefties, you could deat TRA again? :lol:

Just kidding of course.

Deat me!

For the love of life whhhhyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!????????
Oh, well Step shall be missed as the 'Personal Moderator' and as the very fair mod who actually read all of the thread before she locked it. Well at least we won't lose her completely and it'll be fun to see her as a peer and not *gasp* a MODERATOR.

of course, you know that it's only so that she seems to be not a mod. She'll be whispering information about us into their ears sharpish, now that she's went undercover. Watch your back, hidden conspirators.

I wish I could say I'd miss her, But I won't. Harsh but true.

All the best to you and Zep & Co. As a grandparent with 3 grown of my own and helping raise my 8 yo grandson - I completely understand and salute your decision.

You have been an incredible source of information from (generally) good sources. It has been refreshing to see an alternative view point expressed so passionately.

Good luck on your dissertation, I'm confident it will be a dandy!

Cheers!

SHL

Originally posted in Moderation.

Good Luck with the PhD and the paid employment...I don't really want to say goodbye, or "we'll miss you" if you're still gonna be around though, so..>We'll miss you as a mod...hopefully someone good will take over for you!

i came here to trash Stephsian, but after reading what she wrote, forgive me!

Stehspian i love you!

Maybe now we can find out the truth about the seventh forum.

When Neut retired as a mod, well, it was a bit sad. There was someone who was genuinely politically impartial.

With Stephistan, all I can say is, good riddance. In my whole time here, which is nowhere near as long as many others, but is still for some time, I never, ever saw a more politically biased moderator.

Good luck with the rest of your life, "Steph" - but believe me, some, at least, won't miss you one bit.

When Neut retired as a mod, well, it was a bit sad. There was someone who was genuinely politically impartial.

With Stephistan, all I can say is, good riddance. In my whole time here, which is nowhere near as long as many others, but is still for some time, I never, ever saw a more politically biased moderator.

Good luck with the rest of your life, "Steph" - but believe me, some, at least, won't miss you one bit.

I dunno...she might not've been the most, she just showed her colors the most out of all the mods.

Hmm. Interesting.

Well, I can't say that I'm going to miss Stephistan being a mod. I think I would have missed her if she had left entirely. I think it would be nice to see someone appointed mod that would break up the political solidarity of the mods, though. Take care of those kids Steph. You were alomst right in your post but parenting is the toughest job in the world. Partially because the hours stink and you never retire. As much as I don't like your politics, I wish you good luck and look forward to disagreeing with you in the future.

Is she gonna play under the same name still or a new one?

There is nothing wrong with a Mod posting her political beliefs.

She never let her politics interfere with her Mod duties though and that is what matters.

There is nothing wrong with a Mod posting her political beliefs.

She never let her politics interfere with her Mod duties though and that is what matters.

yeah she did, alot in fact/

There is nothing wrong with a Mod posting her political beliefs.

She never let her politics interfere with her Mod duties though and that is what matters.

yeah she did, alot in fact/

If that had been true.. YOU wouldn't still be here ;)

To every one else.. thank you for all your well wishes.. I thank you very much :)

One less mod to terrorise us!
I'm sure the replacement will be just as interesting.

Although she hated me, I respect how she carried out her duties as a moderator.

Good luck as a regular player Steph. It's not that bad down here.

Well, I can't say that I'm going to miss Stephistan being a mod. I think I would have missed her if she had left entirely. I think it would be nice to see someone appointed mod that would break up the political solidarity of the mods, though. Take care of those kids Steph. You were alomst right in your post but parenting is the toughest job in the world. Partially because the hours stink and you never retire. As much as I don't like your politics, I wish you good luck and look forward to disagreeing with you in the future.

I knew this would come up. Steph was never Biased. And there are conservative mods you know, they just keep a low profile. Steph is different in that she posts in general more often.

It was great having you as a mod Steph.

For the detractors, I disagreedwith Steph's politics quite a bit, but found her very fair.

Steph was definitely not my least favorite moderator. We'll leave it at that.

I can't say I wish she'd stay though.

Will someone be replacing her?

One less mod to terrorise us!
I'm sure the replacement will be just as interesting.

*Stephistan terrorizes Jeruselem while she still can* ;)

Just curious, when is it official and will there be a replacement?

*begins chant*

ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

For the next few days at least, in honor of Stephanie (of the nation Stephistan), I have moved my UN nation to Role Play University region and am endorsing her as delegate here.

I read word of your retirement as NS Moderator in the General Forum thread --
Stephistan Retires as Mod, Continues as Player

Stephanie, you as well as the RPU region in general transformed my play on NS from a passing interest to an intense one -- while trying to retain Real Life values and visions.

Good to hear you are still staying on in NS --
Might even be fun see you in another dimension of play!

I know you like the rest of us have plenty in RL to celebrate. NationStates is a game -- yet it affords us another space for our humanity to shine!

Congrats to Steph!
Thanks for your gift to us the world over!

-- Brad
Nolaerie / The Island of Orleans

Rename the mod forum for steph!

Rename the mod forum for steph!

Without going so far, we could give her the forum title Ex-Mod.
Who's with me ?

*begins chant*

ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

In your dreams!


*Steals Kleptonis' dreams*

For the next few days at least, in honor of Stephanie (of the nation Stephistan), I have moved my UN nation to Role Play University region and am endorsing her as delegate here.

I read word of your retirement as NS Moderator in the General Forum thread --
Stephistan Retires as Mod, Continues as Player

Stephanie, you as well as the RPU region in general transformed my play on NS from a passing interest to an intense one -- while trying to retain Real Life values and visions.

Good to hear you are still staying on in NS --
Might even be fun see you in another dimension of play!

I know you like the rest of us have plenty in RL to celebrate. NationStates is a game -- yet it affords us another space for our humanity to shine!

Congrats to Steph!
Thanks for your gift to us the world over!

-- Brad
Nolaerie / The Island of Orleans

This is really an example of one of those posts that has the capacity to induce nausea.

It is not required for Mods to Renouce their Ideals, Principles, Opinions, etc.
They are unpaid volunteers...who give away their time...

Every time the modes DEAT someone...is because he broke a rule.

And this how I feel about Sthepanie... Steph was never Biased. And there are conservative mods, they just keep a low profile. Steph is different in that she posts in general more often.

Every time the modes DEAT someone...is because he broke a rule.

And this how I feel about Sthepanie... Steph was never Biased. And there are conservative mods, they just keep a low profile. Steph is different in that she posts in general more often.

Well, before I get deleted by Myrth, just let me say that I disagree entirely. Stephistan did, indeed, delete a left-wing nation once - a real troll who was filling up the forum with extreme left wing threads that were so absurd that even she had to abide by the rules, and enforce them. I recall her expressing her regret that she had to delete him though. I don't recall a mod expressing his or her regret about deleting another nation before. The moral of this particular story is that she didn't want to delete him, because she shared some of his political views. That's not being a good moderator.

I wish I could remember the name of the deleted nation, it was a month or two ago. I'm sure she can tell you. But this individual was allowed to post this garbage for so long that it was unreal. I don't remember how many warnings he had before he was finally deleted - he received more than you are supposed to, but somehow still survived.

You get someone like FWS, who was a troll as well, granted, but he received fewer warnings and was deleted far faster. He was right-wing. Draw your own conclusions.

And also, Stephistan was as hostile to Christianity as any moderator I've ever known. She said some truly repugnant things about it. She is perfectly entitled to express her views on the subject, but it doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the capacity of the moderator in a particular thread to be impartial when you know that the mod despises your own views, can belittle them with impunity, but you can hardly complain about the situation to the mods when she flames because she is a mod!!

There's a fundamental flaw in NS. I've spent time in IRC, and the ops there tend to stay out of the controversial debates because people lose confidence in them if they seem to be lacking impartiality. Those ops who do become involved tend not to be ops for very long.

I never saw a mod being complained about in "Moderation" as much as Stephistan was. Don't be surprised if the truth is that she was asked to stop being a mod, rather than leaving voluntarily.

The moral of this particular story is that she didn't want to delete him, because she shared some of his political views.
No, the moral of this particular story is that even if she shared his political views....she DEATED him. Because he Broke a rule.

Maybe you feel she was not fast enough...But trust me...Her job is not to satify your personal desires for speedy service...she is there to interpreter and aply the rules...

maybe you feel this guy....should have been Deated in 45 seconds instead of 5 minutes....or maybe that othe guy shold have been smoked in 30 secomds tops.

All I can say to you all ungreateful people is...."Whatever"...
I realize this Board is a free service...mantained by unpaid volunteers....

so I try not to be ungrateful.

I've spent time in IRC, and the ops there tend to stay out of the controversial debates .Nope...what the IRC OPs are forced to do is create Puppets...Im glad NS does not force their Mods to create puppets.

The moral of this particular story is that she didn't want to delete him, because she shared some of his political views.
No, the moral of this particular story is that even if she shared his political views....she DEATED him. Because he Broke a rule.

Maybe you feel she was not fast enough...But trust me...Her job is not to satify your personal desires for speedy service...she is there to interpreter and aply the rules...

maybe you feel this guy....should have been Deated in 45 seconds instead of 5 minutes....or maybe that othe guy shold have been smoked in 30 secomds tops.

All I can say to you all ungreateful people is...."Whatever"...
I realize this Board is a free service...mantained by unpaid volunteers....

so I try not to be ungrateful.

You obviously didn't bother reading what I wrote. Your reply bears that out. I don't know why I waste my time trying to explain it.

got to go...sleep...be back for more tomorrow

tag

You obviously didn't bother reading what I wrote.
I aways read everything...twice

I've spent time in IRC, and the ops there tend to stay out of the controversial debates .Nope...what the IRC OPs are forced to do is create Puppets...Im glad NS does not force their Mods to create puppets.

In fact, some of the mods do express their most stongly-held views via puppets. It would be better if they all did.

I don't know, to me it seems like a good idea.

You obviously didn't bother reading what I wrote.
I aways read everything...twice

BTW im Christian...and I say your anti-Christianity accusation is BullShiit.

You obviously didn't bother reading what I wrote.
I aways read everything...twice

BTW im Christian...and I say your anti-Christianity accusation is BullShiit.

Whatever, there's no point debating with someone closed-minded.

I've spent time in IRC, and the ops there tend to stay out of the controversial debates .Nope...what the IRC OPs are forced to do is create Puppets...Im glad NS does not force their Mods to create puppets.

In fact, some of the mods do express their most stongly-held views via puppets. It would be better if they all did.
Some people...like Sthepanie likes to use their own name...and rather not use multiple identityes....

too bad some of you people dont apreciate that...

You obviously didn't bother reading what I wrote.
I aways read everything...twice

BTW im Christian...and I say your anti-Christianity accusation is BullShiit.

Whatever, there's no point debating with someone closed-minded.

One last post on this: Just ask her about her view of Christianity and whether she ever expressed opinions that were anti-Christian in the forum. Views that if stated about Islam might have resulted in a warning.

You obviously haven't been around long enough to have seen it for yourself.

I tend to agree with DN here.

Steph (and a lot of the NS members as a whole) seemed to be hostile to and biased against Christianity, and conservatives/Republicans as well.

But for what it's worth, good luck in life Steph.

You obviously didn't bother reading what I wrote.
I aways read everything...twice

BTW im Christian...and I say your anti-Christianity accusation is BullShiit.

Whatever, there's no point debating with someone closed-minded.

If you are going to accuse anyone of posting AntiChristian threads....at least post the LINK...just post the LINK...i cant wait....i want to see the LINK

You obviously haven't been around long enough to have seen it for yourself.

I dont think so...how long have you been here?

In "moderation", back in March, I posted the following in the thread I created called: Moderators' politics and political bias

"I'm creating this thread in response to Myrth's recently becoming a mod and the following post by Stephistan in “The Greatest Perversion of History” thread:

“The best and biggest scam ever pulled on mankind was God.. Oh, there is a really good quote I could put here.. to late to go looking for it.

If you go wayyyy back to the history of how it all came to be.. it's such obvious b*ullsh*t..lol but people still believe.. maybe another hundred years when we're all dead people will be as smart as I had hoped they would be by now.. *Shrug*.. that's my $0.02”

This is the latest in a line of contemptuous anti-Christian and anti-conservative posts by this particular moderator that I’ve noted."

The link is:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=142104&highlight=

In that thread I stated that Stephistan was not using her politics as a basis for her mod actions. But that was back in March. I don't believe that any more. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, she was an extremely politically biased moderator, in what she said and did, as a mod. Good riddance is the most moderate thing I can say here.

The link is:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=142104&highlight=

If you are Crhistian...does that makes you Anti-semite?

Oh, for heaven's sake.

Yes, Stephistan is anti-Christian. She has indeed said some awful things about Christians and Christianity- when she posted in General. They made me uncomfortable, and I'll never exactly like Stephistan because of the things she said, but it in no way reflects on her ability to perform her duties properly.

I've seen Stephistan delete left-wing, right-wing, and nonsense-wing nations. She's deleted rulebreakers from all walks of life- in fact, in the last Mod Olympics, she deleted 387 nations. There aren't that many conservative trollers and flamebaiters on NationStates.

People have been trying to "prove" that Stephistan has let her biases affect her judgment since she became a mod, and all have failed. If I could prove that she had an anti-Christian bias that extended into her mod decisions, then it would explain a lot and I would be telling myself that I don't have to take her seriously. Since Steph, despite her anti-Christian views, has actually been a fair mod, I have to take her seriously.

Of course, proof of allegations is irrelevant. We should all just throw accusations around without proof. It is, of course, the intelligent, Christian thing to do :roll:

EDIT: Awww, heck, where'd my post count go to?

/coming back from the dead is hard

I see that as more anti-organized religion than just anti-christianity. If that's what steph thinks, than whatever. She might have been a bit biased, but everyone is. What people think is offensive is largely subjective.

By the way, if you're only going to say good riddance, than pardon me, but... why are you on this thread?

Oh, for heaven's sake.

Yes, Stephistan is anti-Christian. She has indeed said some awful things about Christians and Christianity- when she posted in General. They made me uncomfortable, and I'll never exactly like Stephistan because of the things she said, but it in no way reflects on her ability to perform her duties properly.

I've seen Stephistan delete left-wing, right-wing, and nonsense-wing nations. She's deleted rulebreakers from all walks of life- in fact, in the last Mod Olympics, she deleted 387 nations. There aren't that many conservative trollers and flamebaiters on NationStates.

People have been trying to "prove" that Stephistan has let her biases affect her judgment since she became a mod, and all have failed. If I could prove that she had an anti-Christian bias that extended into her mod decisions, then it would explain a lot and I would be telling myself that I don't have to take her seriously. Since Steph, despite her anti-Christian views, has actually been a fair mod, I have to take her seriously.

Of course, proof of allegations is irrelevant. We should all just throw accusations around without proof. It is, of course, the intelligent, Christian thing to do :roll:

It was Red Arrow she deleted by the way (the nation I was referring to earlier on), the most controversial of her deletions that I'm aware of, controversial because he was just so very left-wing, and she's left-wing. I appreciate her doing it, and some complained about her doing it. But her expressing regret about the deletion, when he had so flagrantly broken the rules - well, that's not really good moderation.

Yes, Stephistan is anti-Christian.
like I said before...

Logarchy are you anti-Semite(anti-Jewish)?....

Being a Christian makes you automatically an anti-semite...rigth?

tp

dp

I see that as more anti-organized religion than just anti-christianity. If that's what steph thinks, than whatever. She might have been a bit biased, but everyone is. What people think is offensive is largely subjective.

By the way, if you're only going to say good riddance, than pardon me, but... why are you on this thread?

I'm not. I'm gone. Goodnight! (When Myrth reads what I've written here, I'll probably be gone forever. Oh well!) :wink:

dp

I see that as more anti-organized religion than just anti-christianity. If that's what steph thinks, than whatever. She might have been a bit biased, but everyone is. What people think is offensive is largely subjective.

By the way, if you're only going to say good riddance, than pardon me, but... why are you on this thread?

I'm not. I'm gone. Goodnight! (When Myrth reads what I've written here, I'll probably be gone forever. Oh well!) :wink:

actually the the best answer to your whinning came from TC:

The Moderation team contains pretty much every political belief from socialism to neo-conservatism, and there are as many on the right as on the left. We are in actual fact a pretty inclusive lot, and are a meritocracy rather than the liberal mafia many people seem to accuse us of being. A change in selection procedures aimed at recruiting more conservatives to the team would in effect be recreating a political version of the same positive racial discrimination that many of you spend so much time attacking in the General Forum. You ask for selection purely on merit in college admissions, this is exactly what you have here.

Further, Democratic Nationality states that "It would be nice if every now and again a mod expressed something that wasn’t exclusively liberal. They may do it, but I haven't seen much of it." The thing is, an individual may choose to post their sincere beliefs on an issue, or not post anything at all. What you see is inevitably the aggregate outcome of such (free) choices. You cannot force people to post something which does not fairly represent their true opinion on an issue, and you cannot force someone to post their opinion if they do not wish to do so.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator