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Any Conservatives here?

Lance Cahill
18-06-2004, 01:35
Just wondering. Post.
Allied Alliances
18-06-2004, 01:55
I'm actually right in the middle, but more on the conservative side.
Purly Euclid
18-06-2004, 01:56
I'm conservative, and proud of it.
Kleptonis
18-06-2004, 01:56
Enough for there to be a fair amount of nations deated by flaming each other over politics.
Yavastakia
18-06-2004, 02:00
Right here...As always, I'm shocked at the number of "passive, open-minded" types in this forum who will attack someone for holding conservative beliefs. Just take it with good humor.
Kwangistar
18-06-2004, 02:01
I'm one. :wink:
Zielony
18-06-2004, 02:03
Hello :)
Soviet Democracy
18-06-2004, 02:04
I am very conservative.

Oh wait, did I say conservative? I meant liberal, sorry.
Holy Paradise
18-06-2004, 02:05
I am a conservative, and I love it!
Lance Cahill
18-06-2004, 02:05
Hey everybody with conservative beliefs there is a great region called Conservatopia that holds its conservative values and does not tarnish them it is a great conservative region.
Strengthford
18-06-2004, 02:06
I'm as conservative as they come. I'm a White, rural, Southern Baptist.
Holy Paradise
18-06-2004, 02:07
I am very conservative.

Oh wait, did I say conservative? I meant liberal, sorry.Get out you bleeding heart liberal! You and your "The War's for Oil" crap is idiotic
Lance Cahill
18-06-2004, 02:07
God Bless you strength ford, I go to a Nazarene evangelical Christian church and they are basically the same as Southern Baptist.
Soviet Democracy
18-06-2004, 02:08
Get out you bleeding heart liberal! You and your "The War's for Oil" crap is idiotic

Whoa, a bit upfront there, eh?

When did I say the war was for oil? I did not say that ever do you, so please do not put labels on me.
Formal Dances
18-06-2004, 02:11
my mom and dad are both conservative and I tend that way myself :)
West Cedarbrook
18-06-2004, 02:11
I'm conservative. Since this is an idealized world, I'm mainly Libertarian. Also, the issues that are presented are pretty whacked.
Holy Paradise
18-06-2004, 02:12
Get out you bleeding heart liberal! You and your "The War's for Oil" crap is idiotic

Whoa, a bit upfront there, eh?

When did I say the war was for oil? I did not say that ever do you, so please do not put labels on me.Sorry I tend to get carried away. :oops:
Soviet Democracy
18-06-2004, 02:13
Sorry I tend to get carried away. :oops:

Though I do believe oil had something to do with the war. :D

But surely not the only reason.
Veiktorya
18-06-2004, 02:13
im conservative

:D

and damn proud of it
The Class A Cows
18-06-2004, 02:14
Seeing the stupidity of the less moral of the liberals on NS was one of the things that slowly pushed me from Libertarian towards a more central position on the right, seeing as Conservatism seems to help repair a lot of the more stupid events of destruction that has hit us in the last century or so.
Yugolsavia
18-06-2004, 02:17
I am conservitive and proud of it.
Lance Cahill
18-06-2004, 02:19
Any of you are welcome to join the region of Conservatopia a conservative region that holds its values up high.
Veiktorya
18-06-2004, 02:20
Sorry I tend to get carried away. :oops:

Though I do believe oil had something to do with the war. :D

But surely not the only reason.

If oil was a factor in the war, we wouldn't be paying $2.10 a gallon.


Did you know a gallon of gas in Iraq is only 5 cents? :lol:
Soviet Democracy
18-06-2004, 02:22
If oil was a factor in the war, we wouldn't be paying $2.10 a gallon.


Did you know a gallon of gas in Iraq is only 5 cents? :lol:

OPEC said they were going to cut down on the amount of oil shipped to America. So the oil companies raised the prices now. The Bush administration can do nothing about that, what they can do is get rid of a government that they do not like who happens to control something that they like.
Lance Cahill
18-06-2004, 02:23
I think we should have controlled digging in Alaska.
Great Dixie
18-06-2004, 02:23
I'm a card-carrying member of the "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy."
Omni Conglomerates
18-06-2004, 02:24
I'm as conservative as they come. I'm a White, rural, Southern Baptist.

Hey, same here. Well, semi-rural. It is a small town in Mississippi. Where are you from?
Formal Dances
18-06-2004, 02:42
I'm a card-carrying member of the "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy."

Giggles!!!!

I like that!
Purly Euclid
18-06-2004, 02:53
Sorry I tend to get carried away. :oops:

Though I do believe oil had something to do with the war. :D

But surely not the only reason.

If oil was a factor in the war, we wouldn't be paying $2.10 a gallon.


Did you know a gallon of gas in Iraq is only 5 cents? :lol:
That's a little strange, considering that most of the oil they use is (at the moment) imported oil.
Soviet Haaregrad
18-06-2004, 03:00
I'm a left liberatian personally, but hey, to each his(her) own.
Hymania
18-06-2004, 03:06
Hey, I am in the religious right. You better believe I'm going to vote Bush, God forbid abortion continue and homosexuals get to marry eachother.
LordaeronII
18-06-2004, 03:08
I'm thinking of becoming a member of the CPC (Conservative Party of Canada), I'm just checking to make sure it won't void my American Citizenship first (Dual citizenship for me), and am also volunteering for the CPC in my riding for the Federal election on June 28th.

So yeah, obviously I am Conservative.

I generally don't mind left wing people until they start arguing their points with no facts to back them up.

Actually, MOST of my friends are middle-left, probably because I live in Canada. Most of the people in my region are middle-left or extreme left as well.... :( Oh well, they are my friends though, so it's all good.
Purly Euclid
18-06-2004, 03:13
Since everyone's defining their exact conservative positions, I probably will myself.
I'm a rare breed of conservatives. I'm northern, urban, Catholic, and live in an area swarming with liberals. I tend to be liberatarian on social and research issues (except abortion), and while I believe in free markets, I believe that the US has an obligation to assert more power in the world, as that'll be the long-term solution for much of the world's problems. It'll also provide far more stability, too.
Vorringia
18-06-2004, 03:17
Proud member of the CPC. I'm helping with my riding association in Quebec. So yeah I'm a conservative, a libertarian conservative.

Glad to see more conservatives than I thought.
Soviet Haaregrad
18-06-2004, 03:41
Since everyone's defining their exact conservative positions, I probably will myself.
I'm a rare breed of conservatives. I'm northern, urban, Catholic, and live in an area swarming with liberals. I tend to be liberatarian on social and research issues (except abortion), and while I believe in free markets, I believe that the US has an obligation to assert more power in the world, as that'll be the long-term solution for much of the world's problems. It'll also provide far more stability, too.

So far the US asserting it's power has been shown to reduce stability, not improve it...
Formal Dances
18-06-2004, 14:00
Giggles,

If your talking Iraq, that is the terrorists fault, not the fault of the USA. Its also France, Germany, and Russia's fault too for standing in the way of removing Saddam.
Revolutionsz
18-06-2004, 15:26
my mom and dad are both conservative and I tend that way myself :)
My Grand dad Was very conservative...
My dad says heis conservative...but i say he has way to many left-idealistic tendecies to claim Conservativism.

My mom and GF they both say I am a damn Libertarian. :twisted:
18-06-2004, 15:41
CAn A mod please tell me If theres a puppet being emplyed in this thread?
Kanabia
18-06-2004, 15:42
I am conservative...

Conservative in that I will never ever change my ultra-liberal views. You don't like that, well, tough. :lol:
Tjigo
18-06-2004, 15:45
I am also conservative, i'm even member of conservative youth in Denmark(KU). Politic thought isn't something that the youth in Denmark is very interested in
18-06-2004, 15:45
You Drug addled Bleeding heart liberal.
Formal Dances
18-06-2004, 15:45
CAn A mod please tell me If theres a puppet being emplyed in this thread?

?

I'm confused about that! Must be a liberal whose disgruntled about all the conservatism that is here.

Laughs Her Ass Off
Kanabia
18-06-2004, 15:47
You Drug addled Bleeding heart liberal.

You fascist corporate-worshipping uneducated selfish consumerist. :P
Formal Dances
18-06-2004, 15:49
You Drug addled Bleeding heart liberal.

You fascist corporate-worshipping uneducated selfish consumerist. :P

UN Loving, Scandel Run a much, Clinton Dodo, Fool of a liberal
Kanabia
18-06-2004, 15:57
You Drug addled Bleeding heart liberal.

You fascist corporate-worshipping uneducated selfish consumerist. :P

UN Loving, Scandel Run a much, Clinton Dodo, Fool of a liberal

I'm not American so most of them do not apply, you imperialist, holier than thou, environment destroying, oppressor of the people.
Formal Dances
18-06-2004, 15:58
You Drug addled Bleeding heart liberal.

You fascist corporate-worshipping uneducated selfish consumerist. :P

UN Loving, Scandel Run a much, Clinton Dodo, Fool of a liberal

I'm not American so most of them do not apply, you imperialist, holier than thou, environment destroying, oppressor of the people.

Fine you anti-america, bleeding peacenick, sorry excuse for a human
Kanabia
18-06-2004, 16:09
Kanabia
18-06-2004, 16:10
You Drug addled Bleeding heart liberal.

You fascist corporate-worshipping uneducated selfish consumerist. :P

UN Loving, Scandel Run a much, Clinton Dodo, Fool of a liberal

I'm not American so most of them do not apply, you imperialist, holier than thou, environment destroying, oppressor of the people.

Fine you anti-america, bleeding peacenick, sorry excuse for a human

You are a shortsighted racist and xenophobic lunatic who sleeps with a gun.
18-06-2004, 16:22
18-06-2004, 16:27
You Drug addled Bleeding heart liberal.

You fascist corporate-worshipping uneducated selfish consumerist. :P

UN Loving, Scandel Run a much, Clinton Dodo, Fool of a liberal

I'm not American so most of them do not apply, you imperialist, holier than thou, environment destroying, oppressor of the people.

....

Hippy
18-06-2004, 16:28
You Drug addled Bleeding heart liberal.

You fascist corporate-worshipping uneducated selfish consumerist. :P

UN Loving, Scandel Run a much, Clinton Dodo, Fool of a liberal

I'm not American so most of them do not apply, you imperialist, holier than thou, environment destroying, oppressor of the people.

....

Hippy
18-06-2004, 16:30
You Drug addled Bleeding heart liberal.

You fascist corporate-worshipping uneducated selfish consumerist. :P

UN Loving, Scandel Run a much, Clinton Dodo, Fool of a liberal

I'm not American so most of them do not apply, you imperialist, holier than thou, environment destroying, oppressor of the people.

....

Hippy
Kanabia
18-06-2004, 16:35
You Drug addled Bleeding heart liberal.

You fascist corporate-worshipping uneducated selfish consumerist. :P

UN Loving, Scandel Run a much, Clinton Dodo, Fool of a liberal

I'm not American so most of them do not apply, you imperialist, holier than thou, environment destroying, oppressor of the people.

....

Hippy

Not quite :lol:

....

Nazi.
18-06-2004, 16:45
Foreigner!
Kanabia
18-06-2004, 16:48
Redneck!!!



(Uh-oh, now i've done it ) :lol:
18-06-2004, 16:59
Two bit Skank whore hooker truck stop skank Slut!
Formal Dances
18-06-2004, 17:01
Covers up her ears.

Stop it. If I want to hear insults, i'll listen to my brothers fight. Stop please. Save my eyes and ears and my sanity.
18-06-2004, 17:02
Uhhh.... uhh. Commie.
Kanabia
18-06-2004, 17:07
Uhhh.... uhh. Commie.

Guilty as charged. *Cowers in corner* don't hit me :lol:
18-06-2004, 17:09
No Formal is a commie.

You are a Facist!
Formal Dances
18-06-2004, 17:10
No Formal is a commie.

You are a Facist!

I'm a commie you fat ass moron? Nope, I shoot commies on site. I'm a conservative. Giggles.
Kanabia
18-06-2004, 17:12
No Formal is a commie.

You are a Facist!

Hang on. I thought you were the right-winger.

*Quizzical look*
Reynes
18-06-2004, 17:13
Right-wing, proud to be.

I don't like the stereotyping that tends to hit us. Most of the local libs like to portray us as ex-KKK or neo-fascists. I'm not a racist person. I'm against AA because it promotes racism against minorities (people tend to get pissed when someone else gets a handout).

If anyone wants to join a conservative region, check out Conservative Underground.
Revolutionsz
18-06-2004, 17:14
18-06-2004, 17:18
18-06-2004, 17:24
Your againsnt Allannon?

Wait Im confused. Facists1 Your all facists. Im gonna get my Nazi buddies together And we'll butcher you all in the streets
Frenzberrie
18-06-2004, 17:25
Right-Wing!
Real Democracy
18-06-2004, 17:26
Why is everything so black and white?

People are complicated, and as such, so should political labels.

Whack crazy examples of political label hipocrisy.

-I'm a liberal, but I don't think children should be allowed to smoke!
-I'm a conservative, women shouldn't get abortions, but I should be allowed to smoke marijuana!
-I don't believe in slavery, but I fully endorse taking in immigrants who will man our gas pumps and make fudge for rich people!
-I believe in capitalisim, but it's fine the government props up cost ineffective industries on a regional basis to gain votes.
-Hey speaking of votes, it's fine that we marginalize votes by regional ridings, so the winning 30% of the votes bring in 90% of the power.
-The war in Iraq IS for oil, BUT that's a good thing once you google "peak oil" and do some research.

You people make me sick in your shallowness, clearly we need assign cyborgs to aribitrate politics because you are all hopeless.
Kanabia
18-06-2004, 17:27
Right-wing, proud to be.

I don't like the stereotyping that tends to hit us. Most of the local libs like to portray us as ex-KKK or neo-fascists. I'm not a racist person. I'm against AA because it promotes racism against minorities (people tend to get pissed when someone else gets a handout).

If anyone wants to join a conservative region, check out Conservative Underground.

Coming from a left winger- I don't view all right wing as fascist or racist. However, I might give the impression sometimes in my posts on here...because usually, when someone launches into a lengthy diatribe denouncing the "evils" of socialism, they turn out to be in fact, believers in fascism. It's a tag that the right are stuck with because of these people, but then again, the socialist left are stuck with being labelled as supporters of dictatorship. So you're dammned either way.
Frishland
18-06-2004, 17:29
Just wondering. Post.
Depends what you mean by "conservative". Do you mean illiberal? Right-wing? Or do you mean anti-government, anti-military, anti-police, and so on? Because I suppose I am in many ways a conservative: I like small government. But then again, I also like government that acts as a counterbalance to big business when big business begins to resemble government.

Social conservatism, of course, is another thing entirely: things like opposition to abortion, opposition to women being paid equal wages for equal jobs, opposition to racial equality, and so on.

And then there's fiscal conservatism: the theory that a somewhat smaller slice of a much bigger pie is better than a somewhat bigger slice of a much smaller pie.

And then there's the other fiscal conservatism: the theory that the poor can go soak their heads--they don't deserve our help.

How about the Libertarian Party and the American Civil Liberties Union? Are they "conservative"? I suppose so, in the sense that they are keen on preserving Constitutional freedoms. But then, many self-avowed "conservatives" also happen to be Republicans, and the Republican Party is more a fascist party than anything else.

So there are all these kinds of conservatism. Could you be more specific?
18-06-2004, 17:30
I was just listening to a Bil Hicks Mp3

"Pro Lifers Killing Doctors? Pro lifers killing people. Pretty basic Irony there, but still"
Kanabia
18-06-2004, 17:31
Why is everything so black and white?

People are complicated, and as such, so should political labels.

Whack crazy examples of political label hipocrisy.

-I'm a liberal, but I don't think children should be allowed to smoke!
-I'm a conservative, women shouldn't get abortions, but I should be allowed to smoke marijuana!
-I don't believe in slavery, but I fully endorse taking in immigrants who will man our gas pumps and make fudge for rich people!
-I believe in capitalisim, but it's fine the government props up cost ineffective industries on a regional basis to gain votes.
-Hey speaking of votes, it's fine that we marginalize votes by regional ridings, so the winning 30% of the votes bring in 90% of the power.
-The war in Iraq IS for oil, BUT that's a good thing once you google "peak oil" and do some research.

You people make me sick in your shallowness, clearly we need assign cyborgs to aribitrate politics because you are all hopeless.

Well, I realise this, but I am economically and socially left wing, so with me it is a case of black and white i'm afraid.
18-06-2004, 17:32
Just wondering. Post.
Depends what you mean by "conservative". Do you mean illiberal? Right-wing? Or do you mean anti-government, anti-military, anti-police, and so on? Because I suppose I am in many ways a conservative: I like small government. ?

I just dont Like Waiting in line at the DMV
Revolutionsz
18-06-2004, 17:40
You Drug addled Bleeding heart liberal.

You fascist corporate-worshipping uneducated selfish consumerist. :P

UN Loving, Scandel Run a much, Clinton Dodo, Fool of a liberal

I'm not American so most of them do not apply, you imperialist, holier than thou, environment destroying, oppressor of the people.

Fine you anti-america, bleeding peacenick, sorry excuse for a human

You are a shortsighted racist and xenophobic lunatic who sleeps with a gun.
LOL
I love it...
all very entertaining
Formal Dances
18-06-2004, 18:04
You are a shortsighted racist and xenophobic lunatic who sleeps with a gun.

Missed this somehow. Alwell life

I'm not a racist, not a xenophobic lunatic(whatever that is), nor do I have a gun.
Planet Mers
18-06-2004, 18:46
The problem in Iraq as far as stability isn't that the US invaded as much as how the US went about invading. Clearly the 135,000 troops there aren't enough for the job. We tried doing it on the cheap and this is the end result. One pundit called it "imperialism lite" and that'd fairly acurate assessment of the situation.

Being a conservative is all well and good but true conservatives should be thoughtful people, not people given to knee-jerk reactions. As George Will wrote, presenting the facts as they are and not how you wish them to be is the core of conservatism. People who call themselves conservatives may stray from this ideal but the concept remains the same.

Based on the facts invading Iraq can only be seen as a mistake. Our military is stretched so thin that the Pentagon is considering taking troops from South Korea to deploy in Iraq, we now own a open-ended hole into which our money must now be poured into for an indefinite period of time, and worse is the fact that failure in Iraq will go a long ways towards destroying whatever moral authority America had.

Being a true conservative means acknowledging the facts even when it's inconvenient to do so. It does not mean walking in lockstep with the Bush Administration or the Republican Party.

(meant to post this earlier in the thread where it made a tad more sense but this forum has...hiccups)
Kanabia
19-06-2004, 12:30
You are a shortsighted racist and xenophobic lunatic who sleeps with a gun.

Missed this somehow. Alwell life

I'm not a racist, not a xenophobic lunatic(whatever that is), nor do I have a gun.

Then you must be.....a liberal!!!!
Greater Dalaran
19-06-2004, 12:33
Im Conservative and half my family are Conservative, they have done much more for this country than Labour. All they want to do is give all our power to Brussels (and the French) and try to get rid of our Queen. Even though thats not possible because Blair would not be in power if it was not for the Queen.
Formal Dances
19-06-2004, 13:53
You are a shortsighted racist and xenophobic lunatic who sleeps with a gun.

Missed this somehow. Alwell life

I'm not a racist, not a xenophobic lunatic(whatever that is), nor do I have a gun.

Then you must be.....a liberal!!!!

Sorry I said I, meaning me, don't have a gun. Definitely not a racist since my best friend is actually of middle eastern decent and a muslim to boot. We talk about our religions and laugh at alot of things. She has a copy of the bible and I have a copy of the Koran. Her parents and Mine are also best friends.

You never did explain what a xenophobic lunatic is.
Kanabia
19-06-2004, 15:05
You are a shortsighted racist and xenophobic lunatic who sleeps with a gun.

Missed this somehow. Alwell life

I'm not a racist, not a xenophobic lunatic(whatever that is), nor do I have a gun.

Then you must be.....a liberal!!!!

Sorry I said I, meaning me, have a gun. Definitely not a racist since my best friend is actually of middle eastern decent and a muslim to boot. We talk about our religions and laugh at alot of things. She has a copy of the bible and I have a copy of the Koran. Her parents and Mine are also best friends.

You never did explain what a xenophobic lunatic is.

Relax, it's just stereotyping. I don't mean it.

Xenophobic lunatic would be someone petrified of foreigners.
Formal Dances
19-06-2004, 15:35
You are a shortsighted racist and xenophobic lunatic who sleeps with a gun.

Missed this somehow. Alwell life

I'm not a racist, not a xenophobic lunatic(whatever that is), nor do I have a gun.

Then you must be.....a liberal!!!!

Sorry I said I, meaning me, have a gun. Definitely not a racist since my best friend is actually of middle eastern decent and a muslim to boot. We talk about our religions and laugh at alot of things. She has a copy of the bible and I have a copy of the Koran. Her parents and Mine are also best friends.

You never did explain what a xenophobic lunatic is.

Relax, it's just stereotyping. I don't mean it.

Xenophobic lunatic would be someone petrified of foreigners.

Oh ok. and its not polite to stereotype. Its why we are in this mess if you want my opinion.

And no, not a xenophobic lunatic either. giggles
_Susa_
19-06-2004, 15:37
Conservative, born and bred. And bled, obviously, by bleeding-heart, knee-jerk feel-good fuzzy-happy liberals.
Akaviir
19-06-2004, 15:47
I am very conservative.

Oh wait, did I say conservative? I meant liberal, sorry.Get out you bleeding heart liberal! You and your "The War's for Oil" crap is idiotic

Amen
Kanabia
19-06-2004, 15:51
You are a shortsighted racist and xenophobic lunatic who sleeps with a gun.

Missed this somehow. Alwell life

I'm not a racist, not a xenophobic lunatic(whatever that is), nor do I have a gun.

Then you must be.....a liberal!!!!

Sorry I said I, meaning me, have a gun. Definitely not a racist since my best friend is actually of middle eastern decent and a muslim to boot. We talk about our religions and laugh at alot of things. She has a copy of the bible and I have a copy of the Koran. Her parents and Mine are also best friends.

You never did explain what a xenophobic lunatic is.

Relax, it's just stereotyping. I don't mean it.

Xenophobic lunatic would be someone petrified of foreigners.

Oh ok. and its not polite to stereotype. Its why we are in this mess if you want my opinion.

And no, not a xenophobic lunatic either. giggles

Hey, I get stereotyped, I stereotype back :twisted:
Formal Dances
19-06-2004, 16:05
You are a shortsighted racist and xenophobic lunatic who sleeps with a gun.

Missed this somehow. Alwell life

I'm not a racist, not a xenophobic lunatic(whatever that is), nor do I have a gun.

Then you must be.....a liberal!!!!

Sorry I said I, meaning me, have a gun. Definitely not a racist since my best friend is actually of middle eastern decent and a muslim to boot. We talk about our religions and laugh at alot of things. She has a copy of the bible and I have a copy of the Koran. Her parents and Mine are also best friends.

You never did explain what a xenophobic lunatic is.

Relax, it's just stereotyping. I don't mean it.

Xenophobic lunatic would be someone petrified of foreigners.

Oh ok. and its not polite to stereotype. Its why we are in this mess if you want my opinion.

And no, not a xenophobic lunatic either. giggles

Hey, I get stereotyped, I stereotype back :twisted:

YOu sound like a brit or a european. No wonder your stereotype but don't stereotype me or I'll show what stereotype is! (don't mind me i'm having one of those days! giggles)
The Katholik Kingdom
19-06-2004, 16:07
*Looks at thread*

Wow, that quote pyramid is bigger than the one's in egypt! If the republicans posted it, they must have used cheap labor to build it! If it was the democrats, they must have all built it together, commie-style!*