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Well, its official. The 9/11 Commission is reporting there is "no credible evidence linking Saddam with al Qaeda and the attacks upon the United States"

And of course, conservatives have sprung to Bushes defense. What aggravates me is that Bush supporters are now trying to make this into a semantics misunderstanding of what Bush said. They are defending him on the basis that he did in fact say Saddam had Al Qaeda connections BUT he never said there were any connections to 9/11. Why would there be any mention of this if it wasn’t meant to imply that Iraq was somehow involved in 9/11 or any other terrorist attacks? Of course he meant to say Iraq was supporting Al Qaeda! He was either stupid enough to speak before getting his info right, or he was deliberately lying to have a reason to go to war.

And just on Monday, Vice President Dick Cheney said Saddam Hussein had "long-established ties" with Al Qaeda. .. and this is after the fact. lol I guess Cheney’s definition of “long-established ties” is different from… the norm. Ok, well basically what happened is that Osama asked for help but Saddam never really replied. Anyway, people are always complicating things when it’s actually quite simple and easy to explain.

unfortunately for Bush, he DID say there was a connection to 9/11

"The Battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on 11 September 2001" ---George W Bush

tell us something we don't know.

Eh, Bush will get away with anything in this country, and we just let him do so.

Bush and Cheney are both only interested in business opportunities for themselves and their inner circle of contributors. Bush's entire Iraq campaign is the same as his compassionate conservativism...a bag of mistruths and misleading statements. These two will rewrite history to suit their own profiteering and crush the middle class in the process. What can you expect from an AWOL and a draft deferment expert. The wanted a foothold in the middle east and they have a quagmire. If he was so worried about terror and the "axis of evil" why did he not go after North Korea. Al Queda has links in the far east. I'll give you two reasons why he did not go after N. Korea...nukes and lack of oil reserves.

Bush and Cheney are both only interested in business opportunities for themselves and their inner circle of contributors. Bush's entire Iraq campaign is the same as his compassionate conservativism...a bag of mistruths and misleading statements. These two will rewrite history to suit their own profiteering and crush the middle class in the process. What can you expect from an AWOL and a draft deferment expert. The wanted a foothold in the middle east and they have a quagmire. If he was so worried about terror and the "axis of evil" why did he not go after North Korea. Al Queda has links in the far east. I'll give you two reasons why he did not go after N. Korea...nukes and lack of oil reserves.

You have a very good point, in my opinion. It seems like Bush just wanted to go to war so that he had something to do, or to perhaps finish something his father began. -.- It just irritates the hell out of me as to why he decided to pursue a war in Iraq in the first place. Logically it made no sense; his accusations and the presentation of the facts simply did not add up; he was far too impulsive. His MISTAKE lead to many casualties, not only militaristic, but CIVILIAN casualties as well.

And diplomatic casualties aswell as the fact that the United States of America lost all of their credibility with the horrible stories that have surfaced since Bush has come into power.

You have a very good point, in my opinion. It seems like Bush just wanted to go to war so that he had something to do, or to perhaps finish something his father began. -.- It just irritates the hell out of me as to why he decided to pursue a war in Iraq in the first place. Logically it made no sense; his accusations and the presentation of the facts simply did not add up; he was far too impulsive. His MISTAKE lead to many casualties, not only militaristic, but CIVILIAN casualties as well.

I agree about the lost of life, but my contention is that he did not make a mistake. He counted on the American people being blindly lead into a war of "revenge" for 9/11. He used a horrible act to hide his evil agenda. I look forward to his defeat in November.

And diplomatic casualties aswell as the fact that the United States of America lost all of their credibility with the horrible stories that have surfaced since Bush has come into power.

Prior to this administration, the US was viewed as a partner in world events. We were viewed a victims of terrorists. Now because of his mistruths and hidden agenda, the US is viewed as an expansionist country flexing its colonialistic muscles. It will be years before we are out of this quagmire, and years more before we regain the respect our great country once held.

Well, its official. The 9/11 Commission is reporting there is "no credible evidence linking Saddam with al Qaeda and the attacks upon the United States"

And of course, conservatives have sprung to Bushes defense. What aggravates me is that Bush supporters are now trying to make this into a semantics misunderstanding of what Bush said. They are defending him on the basis that he did in fact say Saddam had Al Qaeda connections BUT he never said there were any connections to 9/11. Why would there be any mention of this if it wasn’t meant to imply that Iraq was somehow involved in 9/11 or any other terrorist attacks? Of course he meant to say Iraq was supporting Al Qaeda! He was either stupid enough to speak before getting his info right, or he was deliberately lying to have a reason to go to war.

And just on Monday, Vice President Dick Cheney said Saddam Hussein had "long-established ties" with Al Qaeda. .. and this is after the fact. lol I guess Cheney’s definition of “long-established ties” is different from… the norm. Ok, well basically what happened is that Osama asked for help but Saddam never really replied. Anyway, people are always complicating things when it’s actually quite simple and easy to explain.

Actually he made another veiled connection to Iraq and 911 with the following excerpt from the declaration of war on Iraq:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030319-17.html

The people of the United States and our friends and allies will not live at the mercy of an outlaw regime that threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder. We will meet that threat now, with our Army, Air Force, Navy, Coast Guard and Marines, so that we do not have to meet it later with armies of fire fighters and police and doctors on the streets of our cities.

Here's a less veiled reference:

Text of a Letter from the President to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and President Pro Tempore of the Senate
March 21, 2003

Dear Mr. Speaker: (Dear Mr. President:)

On March 18, 2003, I made available to you, consistent with section 3(b) of the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Public Law 107-243), my determination that further diplomatic and other peaceful means alone will neither adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq, nor lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.

I have reluctantly concluded, along with other coalition leaders, that only the use of armed force will accomplish these objectives and restore international peace and security in the area. I have also determined that the use of armed force against Iraq is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001. United States objectives also support a transition to democracy in Iraq, as contemplated by the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338).

Consistent with the War Powers Resolution (Public Law 93-148), I now inform you that pursuant to my authority as Commander in Chief and consistent with the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1) and the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Public Law 107-243), I directed U.S. Armed Forces, operating with other coalition forces, to commence combat operations on March 19, 2003, against Iraq.

These military operations have been carefully planned to accomplish our goals with the minimum loss of life among coalition military forces and to innocent civilians. It is not possible to know at this time either the duration of active combat operations or the scope or duration of the deployment of U.S. Armed Forces necessary to accomplish our goals fully.

As we continue our united efforts to disarm Iraq in pursuit of peace, stability, and security both in the Gulf region and in the United States, I look forward to our continued consultation and cooperation.

Sincerely,

GEORGE W. BUSH

Link here. (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030321-5.html)

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The worst insult to the USA and the world come alive as a semi-human being... When I see that sneering face I could punch him his teeth in.

I have always noticed that it seems that Bush when making a speech always looks as if he is about to burst out laughing. Must be the smirk I guess.

Well...

All I can say to the Conservatives out there, is this:

You knew this was coming.
You knew that Bush was an idiot, and a liar, and yet you voted him into office.
Oh wait..I take that back....he wasnt actually elected.

Ask yourselves....is THIS the man you want representing the G.O.P for the next four years?
Is THIS the guy you Conservies want to represent you?

The Bush Presidency is going down faster than ever in the history books as the biggest failure in office of the last century.

You need a new leader to reresent you.
You guys need a new face for your ideals and beliefs.

If Kerry wins this next election..and you must admit..it looks very bad for Bush right now...
Bush will go home, and you get a breath of fresh air, and a competent republic candidate for 2008.

Admit it, you know that Bush is not what the country, or the G.O.P needs.

I have always noticed that it seems that Bush when making a speech always looks as if he is about to burst out laughing. Must be the smirk I guess.what else can you say about a "christian" like Bush who once mocked a woman on death rows pleas for mercy?

Actually my earlier statement as to the level of my contempt for Bush was not even enough.. I feel as if someone is smearing a pile of stinking horse dung into my face when I see that man on TV and hear him talking. When I see how he, deep inside, laughs his ass off about the situation of the world and the US, I am so enraged that I could forget that I am a human and do not condone killing of other humans under any circumstances.. but this guy makes me forget my education and heritage to the degree that I wish he'd immediately fall over dead from AIDS, Malaria, Cancer, Ebola and all other deadly diseases of the world. I pray to whatever higher being there might possibly be to remove this man from the face of this planet for all eternity and put someone with a brain in his place.