NationStates Jolt Archive

Handing over Saddam
The foreign secretary, Jack Straw, welcomed reports that the US is poised to hand over Saddam Hussein and other detainees to Iraq's new government. He also pledged to resist any moves by the new regime in Baghdad to restore the death penalty in the run up to any trial of the toppled former dictator.
Iraqi interim prime minister Ayad Allawi had said officials expected all detainees, including Saddam, to be in their hands when power is transferred on June 30.

Veteran Labour MP Tam Dalyell warned that the Foreign Office was in danger of being "cavalier with international law" if the detainees were not transferred by the end of the month.

NB. Britain is not allowed to hand over anyone to anybody, if there is a change they face the death penalty.

US reluctant to hand Saddam to Iraqis (http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1239639,00.html)


Should we hand over Saddam?


Personally I don't think so. I think he should be tried by an international court, especially if he is going to face the charge "crimes against humanity."

The Hauge would have the most fun with him.

Give him to the Iraqis.

They have the right to decide his fate.....

Try him in international court and Iraq. Then give him the worst of the two sentences first. But not death, that's too good for him.

He should be tried in Iraq by the people he opressed. The International Court is laughable as can be seen by the trial of Milosevic.
If the Iraqis reinstate the death penalty so be it.

If the Iraqi's reinstate the death penalty, Britain will be force to fight, tooth and claw, not to hand him over.

If the Iraqi's reinstate the death penalty, Britain will be force to fight, tooth and claw, not to hand him over.
errr...im kinda confused...

Whos got custody of Saddam....USA or UK?

hm.... uh. whats all this mess with the british.... and not handing over saddam because of the death penalty? :?

We should hand him over now. I supported 'a' Iraq war (not Bush's, he screwed up everything) to bring sovereignty to the Iraqi people instead of the soverignty being in the hands of some crazy dictator with father and mother issues, abuse as a child, a messiah complex, and psychosexual disorders up the wazoo. (Seriously, ABC News ran a psych profile of Saddam on their website once... he's more screwed up then news reports let on).

Now, when we hand over sovereignty to Iraq, I want them to have full sovereignty, not "sovereignty lite" as some people have called it.

Now, he should be tried in both the world court for crimes in the countless wars he has waged, and by Iraq for his crimes against them. However, he should not recieve the death penalty in my opinion. However, whether the death penalty is part of the legal system should be based on a vote of the Iraqi people. Personally, I don't think we should impose anything on Iraq, just give the people fair and open elections.

Suddam was an excellent political leader. I will help him conquer the world. :twisted: :twisted:

If the Iraqi's reinstate the death penalty, Britain will be force to fight, tooth and claw, not to hand him over.
errr...im kinda confused...

Whos got custody of Saddam....USA or UK?

Damn, I thought it was that thing called. Whats is it?


The Coallition, right.

If the Iraqi's reinstate the death penalty, Britain will be force to fight, tooth and claw, not to hand him over.
errr...im kinda confused...

Whos got custody of Saddam....USA or UK?

Damn, I thought it was that thing called. Whats is it?


The Coallition, right.

In that thing...your so called Coallition....

what happens If a(Dane,Brit,Italian,whatever) PM says GREEN! ....and Bush turns around and says BLUE!!!

What color is it?
:twisted:

What I find interesting is all the complaints that the US is trying to force its ways on the Iraqis and yet is ok to force the anti-death penalty view on the Iraqis.

Until there is a world goverment; a soverign nation should be able to pick it's laws no matter how stupid they seem.

I agree. I believe the death penalty is one of the most unethical actions ever, but what is even more unethical is denying people's votes... of course, Bush has no problem with either one, from the Florida vote-rigging where he still lost, to executing tons of people and laughing about it as governor of Texas.

I agree. I believe the death penalty is one of the most unethical actions ever, but what is even more unethical is denying people's votes... of course, Bush has no problem with either one, from the Florida vote-rigging where he still lost, to executing tons of people and laughing about it as governor of Texas.

I was wondering how long it would take for this to be turned into an excuse to whine about Bush. Don't you have enough threads for this already?

Back on topic, I think that Saddam should be handed over to the Iraqis regardless of whether the death penalty is enacted or not. The fate of Saddam should be in the hands of the people he opressed not a bunch of bureaucrats in The Hague.

This raises a good question...

What if, for whatever reason, Osama Bin Laden was captured by Britain? What would happen?

If the British cannot give a prisoner (that's DEFINATLY receiving the death penalty for his actions) to a nation that has the death penalty, and the U.S. is wanting OBL this MUCH!

Then, wtf would happen then? ...

This raises a good question...

What if, for whatever reason, Osama Bin Laden was captured by Britain? What would happen?

If the British cannot give a prisoner (that's DEFINATLY receiving the death penalty for his actions) to a nation that has the death penalty, and the U.S. is wanting OBL this MUCH!

Then, wtf would happen then? ...

I would hope Britain would hand over Osama to face justice in the US.

This raises a good question...

What if, for whatever reason, Osama Bin Laden was captured by Britain? What would happen?

If the British cannot give a prisoner (that's DEFINATLY receiving the death penalty for his actions) to a nation that has the death penalty, and the U.S. is wanting OBL this MUCH!

Then, wtf would happen then? ...

Well.....

US: GB hand over OBL!

GB: Here you go!

:P

Give him to me! :twisted:

While some think death would be too good for Saddam, I think nothing would be more fitting than to have him humiliated, tortured or whatever the Iraqi crowds want to do to him... maybe a Musolini style execution? heh, it would be fitting for the atrocities he committed.

Now realistically, I think International court is the worst way to go bc France would try to let him off just to screw with the US and Britain. Toadsuckers. Anyway, the Iraqis seem to know what they want to do to him so whatever they decide sounds good to me. Oh, we shouldn't hand him over until their verdict is decided and the executioners are ready... I don't want that demon in a human body running around free again. Stupid UN, why didn't we just take him out back in '91?!?!

If the Iraqi's reinstate the death penalty, Britain will be force to fight, tooth and claw, not to hand him over.
errr...im kinda confused...

Whos got custody of Saddam....USA or UK?

Damn, I thought it was that thing called. Whats is it?


The Coallition, right.

In that thing...your so called Coallition....

what happens If a(Dane,Brit,Italian,whatever) PM says GREEN! ....and Bush turns around and says BLUE!!!

What color is it?
:twisted:
Ummmmm a bluey green?

Ultimately, Saddam should stand trial in an International Court of law, and IF convicted should spend the rest of his days writing sorry letters.