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In World War I - millions of men were at the front who could not produce children from 1914 - 1919.
Then there was the Allied Blockade, which cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of German women and children after that terrible war. Next came the hunger and despair of the Depression and devastating inflation of the 1920s. The German birthrate plummeted as a result of this.

These millions of unborn Germans were to cost the German nation the certain victory in the East 20-25 years later!

A vision came to me while reading those lines in that stirring book: "My God, we in the Western world, especially in Canada and the USA, are permitting abortionists to murder the unborn by the millions - without much protest! On the contrary, with the consent of the majority of the population!"

I felt a shiver moving up my spine, and even now I get upset about this memory, because I believe that God or Nature - call it what you will - will punish us collectively for those mass murders of the unborn by depriving us of the "Last Battalions" in the coming conflagrations.

Those whom we so callously allow to be torn by vacuum suction from the wombs of perfectly healthy mothers, to be so cruelly destroyed and disposed of in garbage containers, will not be there to defend Western Culture and Civilization.

That "Last Battalion" is already missing - for others, from other countries and regions of this planet who did not murder the fruits of their bodies are now taking the places of our unborn, in universities, the job market, in just about every area of human endeavor, because our own offspring, murdered or otherwise prevented from being born, is not there to fill the void and the need for skills, manpower etc.

And this is only the beginning. Karma is being done! Nature knows no vacuum! The places are filled by others.

This is genocide by lust and greed and selfishness!

crazy.....

Yes! Let's not grant the mothers civil rights! We can use the children to fight our wars!

I am pretty sure that nature knows vacuum. Just check out whats inbetween milky way and andromeda... not terribly much :)

I am pretty sure that nature knows vacuum. Just check out whats inbetween milky way and andromeda... not terribly much :)

Gotta love what's in between the milky way and andromeda.

Killing a fetus is similar to eating a Strawberry. You kill the seeds of life. Eat too many, and you help it all die. Eat too little, and you starve. Would you rather live in a world-slum, or one with fewer people? I take choice B anyday. If you eat meat; than you should find it difficult to avoid my next questions. Fetus are very much like fish, bird, and lizard embryos. If you eat another animal, without its consent, would that be murder too? If you eat a plant, without its consent, would that be murder too?

"Save our unborn troops", eh?

Tell you what, Nationalist Valhalla, why don't you credit your sources?

http://www.skrewdriver.org.uk/abort.html

http://www.white.org.uk/abort.html

Is it that you are scared of coming off like some kind of nazi?

"Save our unborn troops", eh?

Tell you what, Nationalist Valhalla, why don't you credit your sources?

http://www.skrewdriver.org.uk/abort.html

http://www.white.org.uk/abort.html

Is it that you are scared of coming off like some kind of nazi?


my name is nationalist valhalla, and i recently posted that i found the bnp a bit left wing for my tastes, i'm not really hiding in the closet :twisted: :roll: :twisted:

Killing a fetus is similar to eating a Strawberry. You kill the seeds of life. Eat too many, and you help it all die. Eat too little, and you starve. Would you rather live in a world-slum, or one with fewer people? I take choice B anyday. If you eat meat; than you should find it difficult to avoid my next questions. Fetus are very much like fish, bird, and lizard embryos. If you eat another animal, without its consent, would that be murder too? If you eat a plant, without its consent, would that be murder too?


i'm not concerned with strawberries or beef cattle dying out. i am concerned that the white race is destroying itself by allowing its birth rate to slip to unmaintainable levels, while european and north american nations are openning their borders to the rest of the world which has no such overcivilized conceptions of birth control and extreme personal freedom.

this is kinda bizarre

Yes! Let's not grant the mothers civil rights! We can use the children to fight our wars!

who else will fight our wars, a seething mass of senior citizens who have no younger generation to succeed them.

my name is nationalist valhalla, and i recently posted that i found the bnp a bit left wing for my tastes, i'm not really hiding in the closet

Ah, real nazis don't credit their sources. Somehow that had escaped me.

who else will fight our wars, a seething mass of senior citizens who have no younger generation to succeed them.

Is becoming a "seething mass" in old age a characteristic of just the white race, or does it happen to everybody?

Killing a fetus is similar to eating a Strawberry. You kill the seeds of life. Eat too many, and you help it all die. Eat too little, and you starve. Would you rather live in a world-slum, or one with fewer people? I take choice B anyday. If you eat meat; than you should find it difficult to avoid my next questions. Fetus are very much like fish, bird, and lizard embryos. If you eat another animal, without its consent, would that be murder too? If you eat a plant, without its consent, would that be murder too?

That would be a good argument anywhere but a country of the first world, especially in America. No one has to starve, and even one hundred million million extra mouths would not be hard to feed. You can keep the number escalating if you wish, but lack of food is not a good argument. I have no problem eating meats either by the way. It was put here for me to eat, and I shall. I shall not waste it, or hunt it unless I plan to eat it. But, I will eat it. This is opposed to babies, which were not put here for me to eat, they were concieved that they might be born.

who else will fight our wars, a seething mass of senior citizens who have no younger generation to succeed them.

Is becoming a "seething mass" in old age a characteristic of just the white race, or does it happen to everybody?

it is a characteristic of a race that is not sustaning itself through reproduction. when the elderly out number the young how can the race defend itself, or even provide for itself. the elderly are valuable parts of a healthy society, they only become a burden in a society which has become so decadent that its natural biological equalibrium has been lost.

my name is nationalist valhalla, and i recently posted that i found the bnp a bit left wing for my tastes, i'm not really hiding in the closet

Ah, real nazis don't credit their sources. Somehow that had escaped me.

well know you now, i doubt combat18 will sue me for plagerism, but thank you for providing those valuable educational links.

please be aware that i will only provide footnotes, sources and attributed quotations in the future if i feel like it, and i very rarely due.

if that renderes me beyond the acedemic and journalistic pale, so be it. neither are clubs i wish to join, they allow to many undesirable elements in.

Yet millions are born every year. Hmmm, I guess I can see your point..... :roll:

I am pretty sure that nature knows vacuum. Just check out whats inbetween milky way and andromeda... not terribly much :)

unless you accept virtual particle theory. basically, by their nature they're impossible to detect, but logically they must exist because nature abhors a vacuum. oh, professor hawking, you're so cute!

Yes! Let's not grant the mothers civil rights! We can use the children to fight our wars!

who else will fight our wars, a seething mass of senior citizens who have no younger generation to succeed them.

A horde of genetically engineered supermonkeycyborgs!

Yet millions are born every year. Hmmm, I guess I can see your point..... :roll:

but amounst many white populations not as many as die, european whites are suffering population contraction in many areas.

See back in the day there'd be a timely epidemic or war to solve the world population problems....

See back in the day there'd be a timely epidemic or war to solve the world population problems....

well AIDS is still a hopeful sign for population control in the third world and amoungst the degenerately promiscuous(no i don't mean homosexuals they are luckily a generally self regulating phenomena in the evolutionary sense).

Hmpth, guess you're just blind if you don't get the analogy. Let me put it to you this way. If you kill too many humans, they all die out quickly. Don't kill enough; they overpopulate and live in slums (starve?). Conservative course of action would be to kill a little at a time, with a gradual increase and decrease depending on the levels of birth.

Think that I was really refering to the population starving to death? Well, it could happen. Don't think it can't, because that's how the Dinosaurs may have ended. Dust creates a lovely anti-sunlight shield for plants.

Hmpth, guess you're just blind if you don't get the analogy. Let me put it to you this way. If you kill too many humans, they all die out quickly. Don't kill enough; they overpopulate and live in slums (starve?). Conservative course of action would be to kill a little at a time, with a gradual increase and decrease depending on the levels of birth.

Think that I was really refering to the population starving to death? Well, it could happen. Don't think it can't, because that's how the Dinosaurs may have ended. Dust creates a lovely anti-sunlight shield for plants.

but if one group is breeding at a high rate, and the other at a low, even if the overall level of population is sustainable, the group with the lower birth rate is gradually suplanted by the group with the higher rate. this is what is happening to the white race in relation to the rest of the world.

Hmpth, guess you're just blind if you don't get the analogy. Let me put it to you this way. If you kill too many humans, they all die out quickly. Don't kill enough; they overpopulate and live in slums (starve?). Conservative course of action would be to kill a little at a time, with a gradual increase and decrease depending on the levels of birth.

Think that I was really refering to the population starving to death? Well, it could happen. Don't think it can't, because that's how the Dinosaurs may have ended. Dust creates a lovely anti-sunlight shield for plants.

but if one group is breeding at a high rate, and the other at a low, even if the overall level of population is sustainable, the group with the lower birth rate is gradually suplanted by the group with the higher rate. this is what is happening to the white race in relation to the rest of the world.

indeed it is. exciting, isn't it? and, does anybody know the estimate on the timeframe in which all races will cease to exist (or rather, become one). it's something under 50 generations or so, isn't it?

So what if white people become a minority? That way whites may understand what others lived while they were a majority. Why are white people necessary for everyones existance anyway.

Still, there are something between 1 and 2 billion white people in the world, what is that about being a minority anyway.

I have yet to see you complaining about how the Neanderthals died out and why mammals didn't help the Dinosaurs during the great extinction of 65,000,000 B.C. I fail to see why we should switch priority from humanity to race. Discrimination is tricky, but visible. We're all humans here.

So what if white people become a minority? That way whites may understand what others lived while they were a majority. Why are white people necessary for everyones existance anyway.

Still, there are something like 2 billion white people in the world, what is that about being a minority anyway.

because they are my people. i don't expect any help or support from other races who are playing the same game of survival, just appearantly with more will to win.

Ah, the colours of a racist. Should I raise the banner of tolerance now?

Ah, the colours of a racist. Should I raise the banner of tolerance now?


if you feel you must :wink:

So what if white people become a minority? That way whites may understand what others lived while they were a majority. Why are white people necessary for everyones existance anyway.

Still, there are something like 2 billion white people in the world, what is that about being a minority anyway.

because they are my people. i don't expect any help or support from other races who are playing the same game of survival, just appearantly with more will to win.

Well, of course everyone understands the feeling for "your people" (I don't know if you're american, but it would be weird for a Russian to consider an American a 'brother' just because they're both White?). Perhaps not all whites feel that all whites are the EXACT SAME people. :shock:

The Question was: Are white people really that important? And how so? And why are they so much better than the rest, as you say? What would happen if they ceased to exist? You have to give us your whole point and explain it, and perhaps convince us that it would be the best, not just shout like any other nazi. :?:

(just for curiosity, I would like to know your Utopic World, but you don't have to say it)

This coming from someone in a Jewish region. Oh yes, we all know that Jews in Israel don't care about their own culture, or the survival of their race, their language, their history. They want to give the right of return to the millions of Palestinians they have excluded for nearly 50 years. Jews in Israel are such open, friendly, tolerant people.

If only.

Hey, I'm honest enough to admit I'm a National Socialist. Why aren't you honest enough to admit you're a Zionist?


though in some ways i can respect the isrealis for that, they are within their own borders racially aware nationalists, they take the issue of maintaining their national identity very seriously. if all the jews were to move to isreal i would cease to have any problems with them.

as for the palestinians, well granted the wars weren't exactly fair(massive american military and economic aid), but thats the way of the world. you want an independent homeland, then take it, if you can't with or without the help of your arab brethren, well go have a good cry with the american indians, the australian aborigines and the gypsies cuz you just joined the history's losers column on the road to extinction.

The Question was: Are white people really that important? And how so? And why are they so much better than the rest, as you say? What would happen if they ceased to exist? You have to give us your whole point and explain it, and perhaps convince us that it would be the best, not just shout like any other nazi. :?:

The history of the world over the last few centuries has basically been a history of white people. Almost all the inventions, explorations and great events of the previous few hundred years have revolved around whites, they are the driving force of humanity on this planet. If they were to disapear then huge areas of the world would fall into chaos and revert back towards a simpler way of life, as has happened throughout Africa where whites have been forced out. Technology would go into decline, quite possibly to never recover.

On the other hand, what have blacks ever done for humanity? Why would it be such a shame if they ceased to exist?

The Question was: Are white people really that important? And how so? And why are they so much better than the rest, as you say? What would happen if they ceased to exist? You have to give us your whole point and explain it, and perhaps convince us that it would be the best, not just shout like any other nazi. :?:

The history of the world over the last few centuries has basically been a history of white people. Almost all the inventions, explorations and great events of the previous few hundred years have revolved around whites, they are the driving force of humanity on this planet. If they were to disapear then huge areas of the world would fall into chaos and revert back towards a simpler way of life, as has happened throughout Africa where whites have been forced out. Technology would go into decline, quite possibly to never recover.

On the other hand, what have blacks ever done for humanity? Why would it be such a shame if they ceased to exist?

Du bist ein loaf of crap.

The Question was: Are white people really that important? And how so? And why are they so much better than the rest, as you say? What would happen if they ceased to exist? You have to give us your whole point and explain it, and perhaps convince us that it would be the best, not just shout like any other nazi. :?:

The history of the world over the last few centuries has basically been a history of white people. Almost all the inventions, explorations and great events of the previous few hundred years have revolved around whites, they are the driving force of humanity on this planet. If they were to disapear then huge areas of the world would fall into chaos and revert back towards a simpler way of life, as has happened throughout Africa where whites have been forced out. Technology would go into decline, quite possibly to never recover.

On the other hand, what have blacks ever done for humanity? Why would it be such a shame if they ceased to exist?

Then again, whites were responsible for the world wars and the development of nuclear weapons, not to mention the majority of pollution destroying the environment. If they were wiped out, maybe the world would survive longer?

Nationalist Valhalla- don't you have anything better to do? Say, posting about your Hitler masturbatory fantasys on Stormfront. As for Combat 18. Have you ever met any? They really aren't heroic viking warriors. Most of them look more like weebles.

Nationalist Valhalla- don't you have anything better to do? Say, posting about your Hitler masturbatory fantasys on Stormfront. As for Combat 18. Have you ever met any? They really aren't heroic viking warriors. Most of them look more like weebles.

lol, that's great. They weeble they wobble why won't they fall down lol.

I'm proud to be doing my part in diluting the white race. It can't fall fast enough, then we won't have to deal with all the little head shavers crying over something as stupid as pigmentation.

lol, that's great. They weeble they wobble why won't they fall down lol.
Actually that's where the analogy ends. IME, when you knock C18 over, they don't get up again. :wink:

it is always utterly unsurprising to see the equally ignorant and backward dogmas of racism and anti-choice united in a common ideology.

Look everybody. One day or another Western Civilization will fall. Just as the Egyptians and the Romans en Greeks. We will once be like the black people are now. Enjoy it now you still can! Caus they won't help us out when we are as poor as they are now. I think we will fal in les then 50 years if you look to our economie and all the laws they have now. We must ban all those Nord-Africans and ex-sovjets. It's them ho are destroying us. And then I speak for Europe caus I live in Belgium. I don't know the situation in the USA.

it is always utterly unsurprising to see the equally ignorant and backward dogmas of racism and anti-choice united in a common ideology.Bottle, if that's a reference to my comment, you are aware that C18 ran a letterbomb campaign against those it disagreed with (including it's political opponents and 'race-mixing' couples)? Surely the "choice" to send letterbombs is pushing it a bit far?

it is always utterly unsurprising to see the equally ignorant and backward dogmas of racism and anti-choice united in a common ideology.Bottle, if that's a reference to my comment, you are aware that C18 ran a letterbomb campaign against those it disagreed with (including it's political opponents and 'race-mixing' couples)? Surely the "choice" to send letterbombs is pushing it a bit far?

i was refering to the thread founder's positions, sorry if that wasn't clear.

Yes! Let's not grant the mothers civil rights! We can use the children to fight our wars!

This was a perfekt response and needed repeating.

it is always utterly unsurprising to see the equally ignorant and backward dogmas of racism and anti-choice united in a common ideology.

I'd say it is an over generalization to lump all pro-life people in with racists. I'm pro-life because of my faith (Catholic). However, I distain all hatemongers and racists (of any kind) with every fiber of my being.

i was refering to the thread founder's positions, sorry if that wasn't clear.Oops. Must learn to get clarification before flying off the handle. Sorry. :oops:

Killing a fetus is similar to eating a Strawberry. You kill the seeds of life. Eat too many, and you help it all die. Eat too little, and you starve. Would you rather live in a world-slum, or one with fewer people? I take choice B anyday. If you eat meat; than you should find it difficult to avoid my next questions. Fetus are very much like fish, bird, and lizard embryos. If you eat another animal, without its consent, would that be murder too? If you eat a plant, without its consent, would that be murder too?

I can see your point, and the reasoning behind it. It's very Buddhist, I think, and other faiths subscribe to it, as well as some of those with no faith (I count myself as one of a mixture of personal beliefs).
I don't think I've ever eaten lizard embryos, though :?

In certain types of Buddhism, there has been much grief over both
miscarriage and abortion but, being rather pragmatic in their world
view, there has been a ceremony known as mizuko kuyo, and entities known as mizuko jizo.
http://www.zendust.org/jizo/chapters/jizo_4.6_1.html
http://www.onmarkproductions.com/html/jizo1.shtml
http://www.prochoiceconnection.com/psc05.html

I'm not suggesting that everybody should rush right out and choose abortion as their method/means of contraception, merely trying to suggest that there may be a time/place for it.

And hey, I understand why people have a problem with the idea of abortion, too. It's not a nice thing.
People have problems with it for varying reasons: some dislike it because of religious views (with that in mind, what is miscarriage if not God suggesting that this life is not right for the bearing? A question I find interesting).
Others may just view things in terms of "it's in the womb, therefore it is life". And this is fair enough, too.
Other still may be concerned about risk to the woman's well-being (i.e. will this operation hurt her in any way?

Ultimately, however, this is a question that the woman herself will have to answer.
So should she not have the choice?

Personally, I think that education on the subjects of abortion and all methods of contraception (including the value of abstinence) is the best path.
My stance may seem a bit like fence-sitting, but I believe that education on the matter is the best path and that, ultimately, what a woman does with her body is her business (of course, in conjunction with her husband/lover would be best, but that is not always possible).

In World War I - millions of men were at the front who could not produce children from 1914 - 1919.

From all sides of the conflict, so I can't really see how this would have contributed significantly more to Germany's downfall in the subsequent war.

Then there was the Allied Blockade, which cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of German women and children after that terrible war.

Thank their military Dictatorship of Generals Ludendorff and Hindenburg for that, they decided they'd turn the war into an attempt at conquest. Had they attempted to try for a negotiated peace before bringing America into the war things might have been a very different story.

Next came the hunger and despair of the Depression and devastating inflation of the 1920s. The German birthrate plummeted as a result of this.

The same goes for just about every other country involved in the war. Certainly the important ones, such as Russia, Britain, Canada and the US, (France and America particularly,) totalling 50 million unborn children worldwide. The high birthrate immediately post-war (all those returning soldiers, see,) would probably be a salient contributing factor to this bust too.

See, to make a point you should probably include factors which didn't similarly affect the vast majority of the planet's population.

These millions of unborn Germans were to cost the German nation the certain victory in the East 20-25 years later!

I think incompetent Generals (who essentially willingly acquiesced to the vast majority of Hitler's ideas, even the ridiculously poor ones, without bothering to form many counterpoints,) and Admirals (who failed to see the significance of the U Boat, for example, feeling it was too cowardly a form of welfare to properly capitalise upon it,) and a fairly poor tactician in the form of Hitler may have had more to do with it. Had Germany's battles been chosen more carefully, Blitzkrieg utilised more cunningly, U boats produced and maintained as a major war weapon instead of looked down upon for the early war then Germany would have been almost certainly unstoppable. As it was Hitler and his Generals misjudged British and then Russian resolve and ability and failed to properly come up with a counter point to America.

A vision came to me while reading those lines in that stirring book: "My God, we in the Western world, especially in Canada and the USA, are permitting abortionists to murder the unborn by the millions - without much protest! On the contrary, with the consent of the majority of the population!"

Same goes for a policy of supporting abstention or contraception, the former of which I reckon happens to be a matter of common sense. Furthermore you'd need to develop a causal relationship between abortion and lowering birth rates - for example, birth rates may actually be rising due to more people having sex and contraception not being able to beat the odds, and because of a misplaced trust in the ability to have an abortion - many teenagers find when actually faced with the choice that it's too difficult, for example. So you're going to have to provide information to back up your claims. And then prove that this will be an important factor in any upcoming conflict. Frankly, the only countries which have even a scrap of chance at stopping America, were it in the mood for war, are European and Commonwealth - most of which have legalised abortion.

Furthermore if banning abortion's unethical to begin with, and you're banning abortion purely on the premise of pumping out more babies in order to win a war which may or may not be on the horizon, then it's still an unethical idea, just now you're basing it on pragmatics. If it's unethical then it should be rejected. So you're going to have to establish why banning abortion's a morally decent idea.

I felt a shiver moving up my spine, and even now I get upset about this memory, because I believe that God or Nature - call it what you will - will punish us collectively for those mass murders of the unborn by depriving us of the "Last Battalions" in the coming conflagrations.

Only if you literally decide to take on a substantial part of the rest of the free world. No individual country really has a hope in Hell of stopping a determined American assault. Their military is too flipping powerful, literally leagues ahead of any elses' in terms of technology, if not training, with a substantial amount of troop power to back it up, aswell as one of the most industrialised nations - certainly the most powerful - producing armaments for it. It's more powerful compared to the rest of the world than Germany ever has been.

That "Last Battalion" is already missing - for others, from other countries and regions of this planet who did not murder the fruits of their bodies

Just out of curiosity, and as a means of determining the quality of this threat, which countries would this be, then?

Karma is being done!

Yeah, I'm not trusting in a metaphysical concept which has never been proven, likely will never be proven, and which is ludicrous to begin with.

And C18 are football rioters without a match to go to.

Yes! Let's not grant the mothers civil rights! We can use the children to fight our wars!

my point exactly!

Then again, whites were responsible for the world wars and the development of nuclear weapons, not to mention the majority of pollution destroying the environment. If they were wiped out, maybe the world would survive longer?

Hmmm, so tolerant are these people who in fact either hate whites or are just mindless leftists who just don't care about what happens to them. This is what the false consciousness of capitalism and the idiocies of liberalism breed, a strange deformity of the mind. It's a real shame, but what can you do.

Actually, Robert Oppenheimer, is widely considered to be the "father" of the atomic bomb. He was a Jew, and I, for one, don't consider Jews to be white. For me, they don't deserve that category.

also the jews role in the african slave trade needs to be explored further. people always blame whites for american slavery and the hundreds of years of race problems its created in the united states. but if you look more closely you discover it was jewish financers and middle men who began the trade, and profitted from it. it certainly wasn't a traditional part of western european culture.

A lot of jewish people I've met have looked pretty damn white to me.

A lot of jewish people I've met have looked pretty damn white to me.

that's one of the things that make them so darn tricky

A lot of jewish people I've met have looked pretty damn white to me.

that's one of the things that make them so darn tricky

I spent time with one of my good friends for months before I learnt he was jewish. For some reason he was still the same person....

A lot of jewish people I've met have looked pretty damn white to me.

that's one of the things that make them so darn tricky

I spent time with one of my good friends for months before I learnt he was jewish. For some reason he was still the same person....

well its cause you werent wearing your tinfoil hat to protect you from his mind control!

A lot of jewish people I've met have looked pretty damn white to me.

that's one of the things that make them so darn tricky

I spent time with one of my good friends for months before I learnt he was jewish. For some reason he was still the same person....

of course he is, he was always a jew. your awareness of his jewishness doesn't alter his nature.

A lot of jewish people I've met have looked pretty damn white to me.

that's one of the things that make them so darn tricky

I spent time with one of my good friends for months before I learnt he was jewish. For some reason he was still the same person....

of course he is, he was always a jew. your awareness of his jewishness doesn't alter his nature.

*hint hint*

A lot of jewish people I've met have looked pretty damn white to me.

that's one of the things that make them so darn tricky

I spent time with one of my good friends for months before I learnt he was jewish. For some reason he was still the same person....

well its cause you werent wearing your tinfoil hat to protect you from his mind control!

I think that might have been it. I wish he would stop controlling what I see and hear all the time. I think its a Jewish conspiracy that all the NZ Rugby games are only live on Sky. Man I love having sky.


Should I put sarcasm tags over the right bits for the idiots?


nah flag.

White, Black, Mestiso, what the hell does it matter?

The fact is that most, if not all, of the industrialized world has a decreasing birth rate due to better conditions for women. They can now have careers, don't need to marry nor devote their lives solely to the pursuit of family. They can choose, I'd think that would be an improvement.

Other states with different ethnic distributions will in time experience the exact same phenomenon when they reach a certain level of modernity. Its quite possible that we will experience another baby boom of sorts were having babies becomes some type of patriotic duty (or we figure out a way to simply breed them in tubes).

As far as soldiering goes, there is less a need for numbers then skill right now. We don't need hundred of thousands of men, or millions, we need equipment. Look at the Air Force, within 20-30 years its possible that all pilots will be downsized and become mission commanders will only UAV's taking flight. Western armies require less men, some armies stopped being fighting forces (many in Europe) while others have adapted.

This is evolution, social, communal, political...at least in my opinion. :?

It's not a case of Jews looking white or not looking white (although of course many Jews look distinctly semitic). It's more a case of dual-loyalties. Is a Jew loyal to the country he lives in or to Israel?

I'm an anti-semite. I can't stand Jews. I'm open about it. But I wonder why those who call themselves "right wing" conservatives, are so pro-Jewish, or at least pro-Israel.

The neocons in Bush's administration start a war in Iraq not because Saddam was a threat to us but because he was a threat to Israel. This war costs us $200 million dollars a day and has resulted in the deaths of many American servicemen but the possibility that the neocons, most of whom are Jewish, are the cause of the war is rarely mentioned except by some left wingers and a couple of right wingers like Pat Buchanan.

I'm against the war as much as the next person, and I'm against Isreals treatment of Palestine and things. Doesn't make this Jewish guy I know any less of a good guy.

Actually, "a couple" should be one. Only Buchanan is brave enough to break ranks with the Right.


pat is actually a decent moderate nationalist it my opinion, too bad he shot his political credibility with his ill conceived and heavy handed take over/destruction of the reform party.

he does take about important issues for nationists, the loss of european culture, demographic decline of whites, the problems of immigration and multiculturalism. and he's not a shill for multinational corperations or free trade, another neocon jew favorite.

well, there is nothinig easier then recommending a line of civil-right abuses by the color of some citizens, right? From there, it's even easier - you just mumble everything there can possibly be against social or political progress, not letting facts getting in your way. yeah, being a national socialist is not too hard. life are definitely easy when we look at thing in terms of black and white (oh, sorry, and jewish, of course).

-Checking up the facts might help you next time you open a thread. Nazi Germany was not short on men - they were just making the mistake they always make - they opened two fronts. There is no way to survive a long war in several fronts. especially when you are fighting against the entire free world.

-People's or peoples' abilities are not to be decided by their blood, but by their motivation, their values and by a small percent, their born talents. no race is in the process. The belief a race is behind our actions is wrong and has never been proven by any detemined way.

-I'm quite sure the reason Israel lets no refugees return to the land is not because of racial fear. It's more about the fact we're talking about a mass of 3 milions people, all of whom poor and in a need of social support, which a society of 6 milions will have to provide. And then, there's always the fact they grew on endless hatred for israel. a mass-imigration of that amount is likely to totally change israel's demographics, economy and society.

But on the other hand, I'm jewish too, so my nature (the one of the zion protocols?) is apreiori known. there's no need to listen for my claims.

All this anti-abortion bullshit makes me sick. I don't see the point in making a kid that you can't support (unless you adopt it out)

It's not a case of Jews looking white or not looking white (although of course many Jews look distinctly semitic). It's more a case of dual-loyalties. Is a Jew loyal to the country he lives in or to Israel?

I'm an anti-semite. I can't stand Jews. I'm open about it. But I wonder why those who call themselves "right wing" conservatives, are so pro-Jewish, or at least pro-Israel.

The neocons in Bush's administration start a war in Iraq not because Saddam was a threat to us but because he was a threat to Israel. This war costs us $200 million dollars a day and has resulted in the deaths of many American servicemen but the possibility that the neocons, most of whom are Jewish, are the cause of the war is rarely mentioned except by some left wingers and a couple of right wingers like Pat Buchanan.

I'm against the war as much as the next person, and I'm against Isreals treatment of Palestine and things. Doesn't make this Jewish guy I know any less of a good guy.

Strikes me that most people who dislike Jews do so because of the supposed actions of a few people, the nation of Israel, or what they deem a collective action of the Jewish people. You know, the whole thing about the Jews controlling the media, banks, the courts, the price of cheeseburgers, what-have-you...a bunch of horsepoopy, if you ask me. I went to high school with a good number of Jewish kids (if I had to guess, between a third and a half of the people in my graduating class were Jewish) and in my mind, most of them were decent folks. I never had a problem with them, they didn't smoke pot, deal drugs, kill people, get pregnant, and they actually thought it was cool to get good grades. I fit in with them pretty well despite not being Jewish and not being a super brainiac, and as a result, I actually am rather fons of most Jewish folks. I'll say it flat-out. My best friend is Jewish, most of the kids i remember from HS are Jewish, and frankly, the Jewish religion actually makes a lot more sense to me than the religion I was raised with (Christianity, for the curious...just too forceful, if you ask me.)

But on the other hand, I'm jewish too, so my nature (the one of the zion protocols?) is apreiori known. there's no need to listen for my claims.

exactly, at least you understand that much, have a cookie.

"Save our unborn troops", eh?

Tell you what, Nationalist Valhalla, why don't you credit your sources?

http://www.skrewdriver.org.uk/abort.html

http://www.white.org.uk/abort.html

Is it that you are scared of coming off like some kind of nazi?
That one article was written by Ernst Zundel who was deported from Canada for spreading his "racist" slurs against the Jews and denying the "Hollocaust" ever happened.

That one article was written by Ernst Zundel who was deported from Canada for spreading his "racist" slurs against the Jews and denying the "Hollocaust" ever happened.
What's with the "scare quotes"?

"Save our unborn troops", eh?

Tell you what, Nationalist Valhalla, why don't you credit your sources?

http://www.skrewdriver.org.uk/abort.html

http://www.white.org.uk/abort.html

Is it that you are scared of coming off like some kind of nazi?
That one article was written by Ernst Zundel who was deported from Canada for spreading his "racist" slurs against the Jews and denying the "Hollocaust" ever happened.


ie for telling the truth

Dear Nationalist vadhalla:
I invite you to my home and to my grandparents' houses to claim face to face there was no holocaust. I invite to come to my grandmother and tell her that her family just dissappered, and it has no connection to gas chambers or crematorioms. I invite you to take look on my house, on my bed, on my 8-year-old sister, on the kind of people you demonize and spit your antisemite propaganda at my face from close distance. I also invite you to a man who live near my house who was forced to be a part of the "zondercomando" and saw the way people were slaughtered in his own eyes. In return, I promise you that if I will get angry or accuse you of anything, it won't be because of your nationality, religeon or culture.

oh, and about the palestinian subject: I do have a lot of criticism for my goverment and her way of trying to solve issues ("the rambo way", basicaly). Yet, I would like people to remember that there are two sides for this conflict. Conservatives who think palestinians should not have a national state of their own fail to see the other side. far-leftists who think that Israel should cease to exisy fail to see my side (I'm live in Israel). Each person who looks in this conflict must remember that both sides have the right for self-sovereneighty(sp?). He or she should also remember that there is no easy way on handling terror, or racism, or military... hmmm... unwise actions. In the end the solution WILL be the two state solution. People like me, who understand it, will just have to wait until extremists in both sides would understand it too.

Dear Nationalist vadhalla:
I invite you to my home and to my grandparents' houses to claim face to face there was no holocaust. I invite to come to my grandmother and tell her that her family just dissappered, and it has no connection to gas chambers or crematorioms. I invite you to take look on my house, on my bed, on my 8-year-old sister, on the kind of people you demonize and spit your antisemite propaganda at my face from close distance. I also invite you to a man who live near my house who was forced to be a part of the "zondercomando" and saw the way people were slaughtered in his own eyes. In return, I promise you that if I will get angry or accuse you of anything, it won't be because of your nationality, religeon or culture.
I can understand what your trying to do, but unfortunately, IMO, trying to appeal to the basic humanity of Neo-nazis is a lost cause. These are the people who idolise David Koresh, despite the fact he was a paedophile, which says a lot about their moral standards.

Dear Nationalist vadhalla:
I invite you to my home and to my grandparents' houses to claim face to face there was no holocaust. I invite to come to my grandmother and tell her that her family just dissappered, and it has no connection to gas chambers or crematorioms. I invite you to take look on my house, on my bed, on my 8-year-old sister, on the kind of people you demonize and spit your antisemite propaganda at my face from close distance. I also invite you to a man who live near my house who was forced to be a part of the "zondercomando" and saw the way people were slaughtered in his own eyes. In return, I promise you that if I will get angry or accuse you of anything, it won't be because of your nationality, religeon or culture.
I can understand what your trying to do, but unfortunately, IMO, trying to appeal to the basic humanity of Neo-nazis is a lost cause. These are the people who idolise David Koresh, despite the fact he was a paedophile, which says a lot about their moral standards.


david koresh was a freaky offshot of the 7th day adventists, he believed in inter racial marriage and thought he was jesus, he has nothing to do with national socialism.

There are no races, only idiots who think theirs is the best.

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it is always utterly unsurprising to see the equally ignorant and backward dogmas of racism and anti-choice united in a common ideology.

I'd say it is an over generalization to lump all pro-life people in with racists. I'm pro-life because of my faith (Catholic). However, I distain all hatemongers and racists (of any kind) with every fiber of my being.

that would indeed be an over-generalization, which is why i didn't say any such thing. read my post again.

david koresh was a freaky offshot of the 7th day adventists, he believed in inter racial marriage and thought he was jesus, he has nothing to do with national socialism.Then why is Waco constantly reformed to on Stormfront?

david koresh was a freaky offshot of the 7th day adventists, he believed in inter racial marriage and thought he was jesus, he has nothing to do with national socialism.Then why is Waco constantly reformed to on Stormfront?

david koresh was a freaky offshot of the 7th day adventists, he believed in inter racial marriage and thought he was jesus, he has nothing to do with national socialism.Then why is Waco constantly reformed to on Stormfront?Possibly because the whole 'armed, walled compound resisting the forces of oppression' thing fits in with their line of drivel, the reasons for that resistance is unimportant.

As for the slow decline of the white "race", Nationalist Valhalla you should take a good, long look in the mirror. I'm sure you'll see not only the cause of that decline but also why the rest of the world is silently applauding it somewhere in your reflection.