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Schools have changed.

Lunatic Goofballs
15-06-2004, 13:46
My nephew was almost expelled from school. My sister had to appeal to the Board of Education to keep him in. They agreed, and all's well that ends well...but that's not what frustrates me.

What frustrates me is the reason for his near expulsion. Now keep in mind, that other than a few typical punishments that all mischievous children suffer, he has not been severely reprimanded. There was the underwear incident, but I didn't come to talk about that. Hehehe. My sister still blames me for putting THAT idea in his head.

ANyhoo... do you know why he nearly got expelled? For starting a food fight. YES! A food fight! :o Personally, I think schools are taking these zero-tolerance policies WAAAAY too far! They actually called the police about it! About a frickin' food fight!! It sickens me. An eleven year old kid should not have to question the legalities and criminal ramifications of throwing a slice of pizza at the kid at the next table.

*sigh* I think it's a good thing I'm not in school now. Some of the mayhem I caused... I'd probably be doing time! :?
Monkeypimp
15-06-2004, 13:49
A kid was suspended for giving a kid who was having an asthma attack his inhaler. Zero tollerence for drugs apparently.

It's complete bullshit.
Spoffin
15-06-2004, 13:50
My nephew was almost expelled from school. My sister had to appeal to the Board of Education to keep him in. They agreed, and all's well that ends well...but that's not what frustrates me.

What frustrates me is the reason for his near expulsion. Now keep in mind, that other than a few typical punishments that all mischievous children suffer, he has not been severely reprimanded. There was the underwear incident, but I didn't come to talk about that. Hehehe. My sister still blames me for putting THAT idea in his head.

ANyhoo... do you know why he nearly got expelled? For starting a food fight. YES! A food fight! :o Personally, I think schools are taking these zero-tolerance policies WAAAAY too far! They actually called the police about it! About a frickin' food fight!! It sickens me. An eleven year old kid should not have to question the legalities and criminal ramifications of throwing a slice of pizza at the kid at the next table.

*sigh* I think it's a good thing I'm not in school now. Some of the mayhem I caused... I'd probably be doing time! :?WHAT??

I'm appalled LG, simply appalled.

Maybe you should go round to the headmasters house with that chloroform...
Xerxes Xavier
15-06-2004, 13:50
starting a food fight? what a bollocks excuse to expel someone

I'd think about that chloro idea
Lunatic Goofballs
15-06-2004, 13:52
I'm appalled LG, simply appalled.

Maybe you should go round to the headmasters house with that chloroform...

No, I learned long ago the legal ramifications of drugging anybody but really good friends. :wink:
Spoffin
15-06-2004, 13:54
I'm appalled LG, simply appalled.

Maybe you should go round to the headmasters house with that chloroform...

No, I learned long ago the legal ramifications of drugging anybody but really good friends. :wink:With friends like Lunatic Goofballs, who needs enemies?
Gigatron
15-06-2004, 13:57
I've never had a food fight in my life.. I wonder what that is like. On the other hand.. I always think about those who got no food to throw around.. and what they would think if they knew.. *sigh*
Lunatic Goofballs
15-06-2004, 13:58
I'm appalled LG, simply appalled.

Maybe you should go round to the headmasters house with that chloroform...

No, I learned long ago the legal ramifications of drugging anybody but really good friends. :wink:With friends like Lunatic Goofballs, who needs enemies?

I've always been willing to put my personal safety at risk to make my friends laugh. And I've always been willing to put THEIR personal safety at risk for the same reason. :D
Lunatic Goofballs
15-06-2004, 14:00
I've never had a food fight in my life.. I wonder what that is like. On the other hand.. I always think about those who got no food to throw around.. and what they would think if they knew.. *sigh*

There is a time and a place for such thoughts. Fifteen years old in a cafeteria with a cup of pudding in your hand is NOT one of them. :P
CoRRuPTeD HaLo
15-06-2004, 14:03
I guessing that nowadays, adults are paranoid about everything. There is always some dumb a-- out there waiting to sue for the dumbest reasons. Hey, I would be paranoid at the thought of losing cash and being in jail.
NiSora II
15-06-2004, 14:18
But one thing will always be the same...SCHOOL SUCKS!!!!
Lunatic Goofballs
15-06-2004, 14:26
But one thing will always be the same...SCHOOL SUCKS!!!!
I enjoyed school. I often looked forward to going to school. For me, mischief was an extracurricular activity, and it kept school fun. :D

Most of my day was spent either wrestling(my only high school sport), reading(I read omniverously) or plotting.
Rotovia
15-06-2004, 14:27
A kid was suspended for giving a kid who was having an asthma attack his inhaler. Zero tollerence for drugs apparently.

It's complete bullshit.A very much doubt that's remotely true.
Cuneo Island
15-06-2004, 14:28
School is stupid. College is much better. I'm a few years out of it all and I'm glad to be.
Gigatron
15-06-2004, 14:29
or plotting

You apparently have the best qualifications to become a politician in one of the "Industrialized" Nations.
Lunatic Goofballs
15-06-2004, 14:29
A kid was suspended for giving a kid who was having an asthma attack his inhaler. Zero tollerence for drugs apparently.

It's complete bullshit.A very much doubt that's remotely true.

You know, It wouldn't surprise me if it WAS true.
Tango Urilla
15-06-2004, 14:31
Schools are getting real tigh-ssed real fast I'm in hs at the moment and i see it happening my school has old paintings from when it first opened in the 60's being repainted becuase it may be offensive its part of the school if it wasn't harming back then it shouldn't be harming now.
Cuneo Island
15-06-2004, 14:31
A kid was suspended for giving a kid who was having an asthma attack his inhaler. Zero tollerence for drugs apparently.

It's complete bullshit.A very much doubt that's remotely true.

You know, It wouldn't surprise me if it WAS true.

It probably was true.
Lunatic Goofballs
15-06-2004, 14:34
or plotting

You apparently have the best qualifications to become a politician in one of the "Industrialized" Nations.

If it weren't for the skeletons in my closet, I'd agree with you. Well, they're not really in my closet, I rather enjoy talking about my irresponsible youth. Hehehe.
Spoffin
15-06-2004, 14:35
But one thing will always be the same...SCHOOL SUCKS!!!!
I enjoyed school. I often looked forward to going to school. For me, mischief was an extracurricular activity, and it kept school fun. :D

Most of my day was spent either wrestling(my only high school sport), reading(I read omniverously) or plotting.I've been having some fun with a fellow criminal mastermind... we faked a couple of school letters with a scanner and a photocopier, sent out a newsletter than said that the demolition of the new buildings they'd just spent the last two years putting up was sheduled for July 16th. Put about a dozen copies of the letters in each register bag.

Amazingly, they went round all the classes to stop them from being sent out. Like people actually wouldn't guess that a letter saying the school was going to be demolished wasn't for real :roll:

Oh, LG, I was wondering, can you teach me how to put a car tyre over the top of the school flagpole?
Tango Urilla
15-06-2004, 14:37
some how i did not get in trouble for rasing a soviet flag though that was cool
Spoffin
15-06-2004, 14:38
some how i did not get in trouble for rasing a soviet flag though that was coolOh, that is cool.


How about the Jolly Roger?
Lunatic Goofballs
15-06-2004, 14:40
Oh, LG, I was wondering, can you teach me how to put a car tyre over the top of the school flagpole?

The hard part is finding someone who can climb it. Once you have that, the rest is easy. One of those tree-climbing straps helps because it allows the climber to free up one or both hands once he's up there.
The Katholik Kingdom
15-06-2004, 14:46
I got in trouble for doing a lot of stuff this past year...

First, it was because of the announcements. At our school, kids in a certain class (exploring multimedia...what bullsh%t) get over the PA system and read off a rote list of everyday occurences. No one listens to it, so I decided to make them listen...

"There's a swim meet today. If seeing people thrash around in water like they're auditioning for a bit part in Jaws floats your boat, come watch!"

"Baseball tryouts are after school today. Come by and try to protect yourself against speeding projectiles using only a stick, courage, and tight striped pants."

"If you like shooting up legally, rocketry club is just for you! Come by "Mr. Shatner's" room for a few quick excursions into getting high!"

"There's a girl's soccer game after school today. Come watch girls play with balls that aren't yours! MMMmmm..."

Yeah, principal's office for that one. Then there was the time when I put a walky talky under our bus drivers dash, hid the other one in my pocket, sat in the back of the bus, and said "If the bus drops under sixty, your head a-splode!" Yep, I was under close surveillance for that "Terroist Threat" for a while now.

Ahhh... I had fun in school.
Lunatic Goofballs
15-06-2004, 14:54
I got in trouble for doing a lot of stuff this past year...

First, it was because of the announcements. At our school, kids in a certain class (exploring multimedia...what bullsh%t) get over the PA system and read off a rote list of everyday occurences. No one listens to it, so I decided to make them listen...

"There's a swim meet today. If seeing people thrash around in water like they're auditioning for a bit part in Jaws floats your boat, come watch!"

"Baseball tryouts are after school today. Come by and try to protect yourself against speeding projectiles using only a stick, courage, and tight striped pants."

"If you like shooting up legally, rocketry club is just for you! Come by "Mr. Shatner's" room for a few quick excursions into getting high!"

"There's a girl's soccer game after school today. Come watch girls play with balls that aren't yours! MMMmmm..."

Yeah, principal's office for that one. Then there was the time when I put a walky talky under our bus drivers dash, hid the other one in my pocket, sat in the back of the bus, and said "If the bus drops under sixty, your head a-splode!" Yep, I was under close surveillance for that "Terroist Threat" for a while now.

Ahhh... I had fun in school.

One time, in high school, three teachers snuck into the main office during a lunch period and played a bit of classical music followed by a few chimes and, "Medication time, children. Medication time."

These were TEACHERS!!! :lol:
Spoffin
15-06-2004, 14:57
Oh, LG, I was wondering, can you teach me how to put a car tyre over the top of the school flagpole?

The hard part is finding someone who can climb it. Once you have that, the rest is easy. One of those tree-climbing straps helps because it allows the climber to free up one or both hands once he's up there.Tree climbing straps... right.
The Katholik Kingdom
15-06-2004, 15:00
The funnest thing to do with a flag pole is to string a dummy up from it.

My friends and I stole a mannequin from a store once, brought some rope from home, and had a mannequin-lynching round the flag pole. The janitor was sick the next day, and we had to wait for a week before it could be brought down

good times :lol:
Spoffin
15-06-2004, 15:02
The funnest thing to do with a flag pole is to string a dummy up from it.

My friends and I stole a mannequin from a store once, brought some rope from home, and had a mannequin-lynching round the flag pole. The janitor was sick the next day, and we had to wait for a week before it could be brought down

good times :lol:Oh, now thats pretty good.

I should be taking notes actually
Conceptualists
15-06-2004, 15:33
some how i did not get in trouble for rasing a soviet flag though that was cool

I know someone who did that.

He did get in trouble though. It might be the fact that he did it during the cold war :D
BelFierste
15-06-2004, 15:54
you can't be expelled or suspended in my school for anything. I think the school is too scared of being sued :roll:
Lunatic Goofballs
15-06-2004, 15:58
some how i did not get in trouble for rasing a soviet flag though that was cool

I know someone who did that.

He did get in trouble though. It might be the fact that he did it during the cold war :D

Hell, I'd be surprised if some of the other students didn't give him something to think about.

At my school, the truly deserving often got poleracked.

Me, I never participated in a poleracking, though I've been a victim of them twice. I just thought they were a bit unimaginative.
Tango Urilla
15-06-2004, 15:59
i live in a 'rich' mostly jewish comunity and they are all very spoiled (luckey for me im not rich*sarcasm ;) )so they dont do anything becuase they are all pansy's
Conceptualists
15-06-2004, 16:06
Hell, I'd be surprised if some of the other students didn't give him something to think about.

At my school, the truly deserving often got poleracked.

Me, I never participated in a poleracking, though I've been a victim of them twice. I just thought they were a bit unimaginative.

He can be very sneaky, and no one had any idea who it was (allegedly), except maybe his friends.

btw, what is poleracking, is it an American expression?
Tango Urilla
15-06-2004, 16:07
i have no idea doubt its a commom american term if it is even america but i assume its either a beating or attached to flag pole
Lunatic Goofballs
15-06-2004, 16:10
Hell, I'd be surprised if some of the other students didn't give him something to think about.

At my school, the truly deserving often got poleracked.

Me, I never participated in a poleracking, though I've been a victim of them twice. I just thought they were a bit unimaginative.

He can be very sneaky, and no one had any idea who it was (allegedly), except maybe his friends.

btw, what is poleracking, is it an American expression?

Basically, it's when two or more kids grab a victim, pick him up and ram him spreadeagle into a flagpole(goalpost, etc) crotch first. Usually several times.
Tango Urilla
15-06-2004, 16:13
well............thats not cool
Lunatic Goofballs
15-06-2004, 16:29
well............thats not cool

Poleracking, like hazing, is one of those activities that can be fun and funny but is way too easy to take too far.

I remember there was this twerpy smartmouth who was mouthing off to the wrong people. One needs to know who NOT to piss off in school. ANyhoo... I was invited to assist in carrying him outside and poleracking him during phys ed. Me, being the sympathetic sort that I was, took the initiative and wrestled him into a toilet stall and proceeded to ducttape him naked to a toilet. Thus, he never got poleracked, and everyone was satisfied. :D
The Unreal Soldiers
15-06-2004, 20:46
well............thats not cool

Poleracking, like hazing, is one of those activities that can be fun and funny but is way too easy to take too far.

I remember there was this twerpy smartmouth who was mouthing off to the wrong people. One needs to know who NOT to piss off in school. ANyhoo... I was invited to assist in carrying him outside and poleracking him during phys ed. Me, being the sympathetic sort that I was, took the initiative and wrestled him into a toilet stall and proceeded to ducttape him naked to a toilet. Thus, he never got poleracked, and everyone was satisfied. :D

Did you take any pleasure in ducttaping a naked kid to a toilet? Seems slightly wrong to me.

While I think that expelling a student for starting a food fight is too severe(in my school "expulsion" is any suspension over 10 days long), I think he should maybe get a 2 or 3 day suspension.

I personally would have him clean up all the mess himself, rather than leave it to the janitors.

Ive enjoyed food fights between certain tables before, which have all been friends and so chucking food at a friend is OK, but I dont think that nailing a kid you don't know with food(especially something like pizza or sauce, kethup, etc.) is cool.
Spoffin
15-06-2004, 21:34
Spoffin is a man of contrast
Lunatic Goofballs
15-06-2004, 22:26
Did you take any pleasure in ducttaping a naked kid to a toilet? Seems slightly wrong to me.

You'll never hear me claim that such activities are 'right'. Or even justified. Matter of fact, I was caught and punished. I took my punishment without a complaint.

But yes, it was pretty fun. :D
Back then, I had the opposite approach to mischief. Nowadays, I seek out like-minded people with a good sense of humor about such things. Back then, my targets were exactly the opposite. I targeted those that took themselves too seriously. One reason, I suppose, why I was never called a 'bully' was that I was as likely to prank jocks, seniors and those larger than myself as I was freshmen. In fact, bullies were a favorite target of mine, because they could rarely 'take' what they 'dish out'. In fact, I often got beaten up afterward for it.
Avia
15-06-2004, 22:39
Yeah... I know what you mean LG.

This guy I know and I'm really close to, he was after school one day, a few hours after school was over.

He was in the parking lot, messin around with some friend. He had a dart gun (the little nerf ones with the styrofoam suction cup darts, totally harmless) and his friend was in his car, and he shot one of the darts onto his window.
Well, the vice principal was there.

He was almost expelled, but they decided his punishment (for playing with a nerf gun in the empty parking lot after school) would be 10 days expulsion, he wasn't allowed to go to his prom (he was a senior), he wasn't allowed to walk with his class at graduation, he wasn't allowed to go to NYC with his class on the class trip, and he was only allowed to go to school from 11-1 every day, meaning he had to take a fail grade in all the classes he would have to miss every day. Luckily, he had the minimum just to graduate.

This was absolutely rediculous to all of us.
Really says something about the school system...
Spoffin
15-06-2004, 23:43
Did you take any pleasure in ducttaping a naked kid to a toilet? Seems slightly wrong to me.

You'll never hear me claim that such activities are 'right'. Or even justified. Matter of fact, I was caught and punished. I took my punishment without a complaint.

But yes, it was pretty fun. :D
Back then, I had the opposite approach to mischief. Nowadays, I seek out like-minded people with a good sense of humor about such things. Back then, my targets were exactly the opposite. I targeted those that took themselves too seriously. One reason, I suppose, why I was never called a 'bully' was that I was as likely to prank jocks, seniors and those larger than myself as I was freshmen. In fact, bullies were a favorite target of mine, because they could rarely 'take' what they 'dish out'. In fact, I often got beaten up afterward for it.LG is like the Robin Hood of school pranks, a karmic avenger of sorts.
Jhenova
15-06-2004, 23:48
(Truck crashes in, Moderation Death Squad troopers jump out)

I agree!! What the hell is with this Zero tolerance?! Its getting so strict especially in catholic schools, they try to end all individualism entirely...and those prayers, day in day out, im beginning to think its more like brainwash to love god, i know them by heart. Here, the teachers are so harsh, they hate their lives and they dish out on specific students over and over...ah well, by the way we are going to beat you for posting this about Zero Tolerance, that wont be tolerated

(Prepares to beat Lunatic goofballs)

also...you are exhaling too much carbon dixodie...that will not be tolerated...

(beats Lunatic again then leaves)

http://www.seattleweekly.com/graphics/features/9948/policebig.jpg
Kihameria
15-06-2004, 23:53
i dont care much for the public school system at all, designed only to take time out of the kids day, first there are hours of shcool, then hours of homework.
homeschooling is the way to go, the parents can give discipline as they see fit, and nobody can be expelled per se.
Avia
15-06-2004, 23:53
Wow.. I almost forgot this one.

At my school this year, the AP Virgil class teacher made a bet with the students.
If at least four people in the class got gold medals on the national latin exam (or something), they would tie this really tiny kid who talks all the time to the school flagpole.

Sure enough, the kids won the bet, and Patrick was tied to the flagpole for the period... until another teacher came and let him go.

This is what you get when you don't go to a public school... haha
Lunatic Goofballs
16-06-2004, 01:44
Did you take any pleasure in ducttaping a naked kid to a toilet? Seems slightly wrong to me.

You'll never hear me claim that such activities are 'right'. Or even justified. Matter of fact, I was caught and punished. I took my punishment without a complaint.

But yes, it was pretty fun. :D
Back then, I had the opposite approach to mischief. Nowadays, I seek out like-minded people with a good sense of humor about such things. Back then, my targets were exactly the opposite. I targeted those that took themselves too seriously. One reason, I suppose, why I was never called a 'bully' was that I was as likely to prank jocks, seniors and those larger than myself as I was freshmen. In fact, bullies were a favorite target of mine, because they could rarely 'take' what they 'dish out'. In fact, I often got beaten up afterward for it.LG is like the Robin Hood of school pranks, a karmic avenger of sorts.

It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it. :wink:
Spoffin
16-06-2004, 20:45
bump
Superpower07
16-06-2004, 20:53
Meh, I hate my school. While most of the kids in the higher classes are pretty nice people, an overwhelming majority of students in all the lower classes tend to be assholes. Could somebody *please* explain to me this trend?
Avia
16-06-2004, 21:32
immaturity breeds being assholes. (sorry m-ds.. couldn't think of a better fitting term)

thats as simple as it gets.

the more immature, the dumber and more rude/assish they are.
when they start growing up... well.. they even out a bit. sometimes.
some people are jerks forever... its really a shame.

i'm praying that its just a phase.
Conceptualists
16-06-2004, 22:19
Meh, I hate my school. While most of the kids in the higher classes are pretty nice people, an overwhelming majority of students in all the lower classes tend to be assholes. Could somebody *please* explain to me this trend?

That's something I noticed too.

I guess it is just the way of the world (except for me, the lower years were worse)
Dempublicents
17-06-2004, 00:36
A kid was suspended for giving a kid who was having an asthma attack his inhaler. Zero tollerence for drugs apparently.

It's complete bullshit.A very much doubt that's remotely true.

You apparently don't read the news then. A quick google search brings up a lot on this topic. I didn't go through enough of them to find a well-known news source, but i remember reading it on CNN. Here's one though, if you're interested.

http://www.thebulletin.com/archives/2003/october/zerotolerance.htm