NationStates Jolt Archive

How would your decribe the underlying forces of politics in your view? Here's mine:

There are two forces: that which is "new" and progressive, and that which has worked in the past ("old"). While the "new" promises much and is novel, the "old" has experience behind it. Any society will divide into the "old" and "new" as the "new" finds a balance in which the most people will accept it. Thus the costituancies, liberal ("new") and conservative ("old").

From what I have tasted of desire
I hold with those that favor "new".

Like new is better? The progressive parties (socialists, green,...) use old themes and reform them in new themes. The social welfare states are binding down because people reject the thought of paying more taxes for the few unlucky and the many lazy parasites.

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The political spectrum is inhabited by proponents of freedom on one side and proponents of oppression on the other. The anarchists are on the free side and the stateless capitalists, fascists, and Marxists are on the other. The democrats, republicans, etc. are somewhere in the middle, though closer to the oppressive side.

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"Beside him is a beautiful androgyne called SWITCH, aiming a large gun at Neo."--Script of The Matrix (I love The Matrix, but that is still funny.)
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
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The political spectrum is inhabited by proponents of freedom on one side and proponents of oppression on the other. The anarchists are on the free side and the stateless capitalists, fascists, and Marxists are on the other. The democrats, republicans, etc. are somewhere in the middle, though closer to the oppressive side.



You lost me-- Marxism is not the way to go? And furthermore, the spectrum goes through anarchy, democracy and then back to anarchy? Have your political views changed? Has you perception of logical analysis changed?

You lost me-- Marxism is not the way to go? And furthermore, the spectrum goes through anarchy, democracy and then back to anarchy? Have your political views changed? Has you perception of logical analysis changed?

No, it's like this, with the freest on the left side and the most oppressive on the right:

Anarchism-----------------democrats, republicans----Marxists, fascists, stateless capitalism

I'm not a Marxist, if that is what is confusing you.

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"Beside him is a beautiful androgyne called SWITCH, aiming a large gun at Neo."--Script of The Matrix (I love The Matrix, but that is still funny.)
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!
http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg

Everyone is an indivigual and they can not be catogorized. Well unless your talking about repbulicans or nazis. They'll all burn in hell/

And Fascism is a brother to communsim

Everyone is an indivigual and they can not be catogorized. Well unless your talking about repbulicans or nazis. They'll all burn in hell/
Add trolls to your list of people who will burn in hell.

The political spectrum is inhabited by proponents of freedom on one side and proponents of oppression on the other. The anarchists are on the free side and the stateless capitalists, fascists, and Marxists are on the other. The democrats, republicans, etc. are somewhere in the middle, though closer to the oppressive side.

How are Marxists on the opposite end of the spectrum from anarchists? Marx was an anarchist. According to him, Communisim is a perfect system in which goverment becomes unnecessary and obsolete.

How are Marxists on the opposite end of the spectrum from anarchists? Marx was an anarchist. According to him, Communisim is a perfect system in which goverment becomes unnecessary and obsolete.
Marx was not an anarchist, at least not in any short or medium term. Marxists are definitely not anarchists. They are authoritarians. It has also been said that Marx wasn't a Marxist.

I'd describe myself best as Tommy Douglas with a dash of Jack Layton.

Marx not a Marxist... what a bunch of utter nonsense...

And Fascism is a brother to communsim
Not necessarily.... a country can be fully capitalistic and still be fascist. Hell, America is both becoming fascist AND an extreme capitalistic country. The latter is taking longer but it is coming.

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*chases after Viper trying to get his back*

Marx not a Marxist... what a bunch of utter nonsense...


well at least marx wasn't a leninist or a maoist, i'll give you that. he had some value as an economist and a social critic, his ability to move from that to create a viable vision of the future left something to be desired.

And Fascism is a brother to communsim

Fashism was in part a reaction to communism. A bunch of middle- and upper-class conservatives who valued economic strength and freedom so much they didn't care who and what they had to bring down to get it. The what was democracy; the who the various groups the oppressed or killed.