NationStates Jolt Archive

Its a tricky issue, all things considered.
With cloning we could do some really great things, grow organs for transplant, cure diseases, and maybe even bring back species that have gone extinct. Of course this is all theoretical now, but in the future...
But, it could also do some pretty horrible things, like in Star Wars II, which if you think about it, is almost on par with Hitler.
Create millions of living beings, and accelerate their growth so they can be ready in time for the next war, then die in, say, ten years when they reach (technically) nintey. Growth acceleration is also theoreticaly, but its one thing I hope never happens.

What I DO see as a good thing is cloned organs, skin, eyes, that sort of thing. If a blind person can simply have a new, healthy set of eyes grown in a vat, whats wrong with that?
I DO, as I said, object to the cloning of humans, its partially religion and partially the fact that I dont want copies of me running about.

Anyway, whats your opinion?

Life is a blessing from God. Cloning is something man is not meant to dabble in.

Life is a blessing from God. Cloning is something man is not meant to dabble in.

we will see in a few years.......

To me, the benefit would be artifically creating stuff like chicken meat. Without nerves and a brain, there really can't be anything said about animal cruelty, and it would be a good way to feed the hungry, if refined to a cheap and efficient process.

Life is a blessing from God. Cloning is something man is not meant to dabble in.
So we should allow people to die, when we can easily save them by letting a few cells take their natural course?

Life is a blessing from God. Cloning is something man is not meant to dabble in.
So we should allow people to die, when we can easily save them by letting a few cells take their natural course?

Cloning cells or people?

Where do the cells come from though :) AH HA!!! GOT YOU!!

i find the whole business of cloning pretty scary.

i have no religious objection.. it just frightens me.

Life is a blessing from God. Cloning is something man is not meant to dabble in.
So we should allow people to die, when we can easily save them by letting a few cells take their natural course?

Cloning cells or people?

Where do the cells come from though :) AH HA!!! GOT YOU!!

If your going to put it that way, animals. A pigs liver is perfectly acceptable to most people, you could change organs with any number of mammel species and not know the differnce (Though if you took a mouses lungs you might have some problems)

Possibly it is scary because we don't know enough about it yet. I mean, we're not talking Jurassic Park, but artificially created organs and tissue. It is organ donation without having to lose your organs.

My point, scrape a few cells off somebodies (or somethings) liver, stick 'em in a vat, and poof, Mr. Alchaholic is no longer about to die.

Possibly Mr Alcoholic is not a good example. How about small child with congenital heart defects?

Mr. Alchaholic is just as deserving as Generic Small Child with Heart Defect :P

And the same thing would work with pets, say your favorite dog drank anti-freeze, guess what? It will be affordable to save him/her/it now.

Oh, and whose puppetering? The first option gets a vote every thirty or so seconds. I find that rather odd.

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GAhh

i have to do this in a mock un summit in a couple of weeks time for a science camp :x

And the worst bit, is that me, a heretic, has been given the role of the catholic chuirhch
i googled "Catholic church cloning' and got around a billion sites :p

I find taking the opposite side is actually fun sometimes, trying to think up an anti-gun arguement would be tough for me, I could only get a few points in, and then only ones everybody else had heard about.

i have to do this in a mock un summit in a couple of weeks time for a science camp

So...it will be just like the real thing then :lol:

But seriously...cloning, like all things, has pros and cons. While I personally like the concept of a "clone army" I would not like to see my enemy with something similar.

Perhaps the strongest argument for cloning is that it may enable humans to live much longer than approx 80 years. Whether this is a good thing or bad is yet to be seen. Of course, if we are to know for sure, we will have to take a step forward into the unknown.

I look at it this way--if you are able to clone specific body parts, then hell yes, and let's get it done tomorrow.

If you're cloning full-on humans, however, then I'm only cool with it if they are fully recognized as individuals with their own human rights. They can't be organ farms. And if there turns out to be no way to clone specific body parts, then we better find another way to get them.