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Nearly a year ago a columnist in my local paper wrote an item about his nearly-adult kids' tastes in music, and how surprised he is that they like a lot of classic rock which he's grown really tired of. Here's a bit of what he wrote:



"My kids' request for Christmas last year? Zeppelin's double-DVD of live concert performances. From the 1970s. It would be the same if I had asked my parents for a Fats Waller 78 r.p.m. for Christmas when I was 16 -- which I might have, if I hadn't been busy at the time playing air guitar to Whole Lotta Love.

I put this to my daughter one day after enduring an afternoon of '60s and '70s rock that she insisted we listen to in the car. Between a Hendrix tune and an old disco chestnut I used to dance to in three-inch platform shoes, I asked her why her generation didn't "get its own freaking music" because I was getting mightily tired of having to listen to mine over and over again. She said:

"Because our music sucks."

Her older brothers and their friends feel the same and have said so -- that much of the new music billing itself as cutting edge is monotone, often morose, and worse, unhummable -- an angst-ridden universe of sophomoric poets whose songs resemble the scores of Andrew Lloyd Weber, in that they are eminently forgettable. (My picks for most overrated and unlistenable bands? Coldplay and Radiohead. As dreary as English winters.) "



The writer goes on to express a lot of admiration for his kids' eclecticism, saying that they have a lot more musical sophistication than he did at their age. So what do some of you think of this?

let me put it this way.

i am 15.
tonight i went out, saw a live swing band, danced (swing, balboa, lindy hop, ya). with the old jazz songs they sang, i knew every word.
i've grown up on classic rock.
i can recite beatles lyrics in my sleep, and john lennon was my first crush. ever.
ella fitzgerald is a goddess.
and hendrix and debussy are gods.
and that 20s jazz.. man, it can't be beat

Im 29, so "my generation" would be hair metal, and grunge rock...

Im ok with some of the Seattle stuff....Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden....etc...

But the music I hear on the radio NOW.......just blows.

no feel.....no soul.....its just bubble gum pop.

Limp Bizkit redoes a classic who song....and LEAVES OUT THE HEAVIEST PART OF THE SONG?!

Korn.....thats nice..it all sounds the same.

Linkin Park....its not rap....its not metal...its just crap.

Evanescance....zzzzzzzzzzz.....

And I'll put it this way.

I'm 17.
John Coltrane, Cannonball Adderly, and Miles Davis are god-like.
Pink Floyd r0x0rz teh b0x0rz.
My day isn't worth scratch if I don't hear at least the last half of the Abbey Road album.
I want to hear what musicians want to play, not what record execs tell them sounds good.
I have classical music playing right now.

That's all... FOR NOW.

wow.
yall are smart guys.

way to be, way to be.

*takes note of cool-music-listeners coming through thread*

Ok, im 15, and i have a wierd love for classical music from 200 years ago(i dont know who the fuk wrote it and such, but eh, its soothing.) but i cant stand the 70's metal, which to me is all screeching. I dont like some of today's bands cause they are talking about too materialistic things(rap) or are just being stupid rich kids(pop) or are just ... ugh(some modern rock, techno, etc...) but there are 2 bands and one style of music that really appeal to me today: A Fire Inside(AFI) and Switchfoot(its christian rock, but they put it in a general sense that can make me think about it for purposes other than christianity and religion... most of it at least, some songs blare the christianity.) and the lighter Punk Rock, like MXPX or NOFX(they do it for the fun of making the music, and just living the moment, nothin more.)

Also, i hate most of the rock from the 80s(glam rock crap, etc.)

Blah, 80s music. I'm really glad I never listened to the radio back then. Of course, I was only four by the time 1990 came around, so...

Well I listen to a lot of metal myself, mostly up and coming stuff. By metal I do mean metal. So bands like At The Gates, Judas Preist, Dungeon, Zyklon, Fear Factory, Immortal, Megadeth, Metallica, Testament, Alchemist (from Australia not the shitheads who collaberated with linkin park), Blood Duster, Vintersorg, Borknagar...

Along with Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Pink Floyd, The Beach Boys and Eagles.

To name a few.

You daughter is enirely correct. Music this decade is the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked. And I've seen some suckers in my time but these guy just plain sucked!

Let's face it, new age rock is wholly outnumbered by all this pop, rap, hip hop, "r'n'b" and what other bullshit commercial radio deems neccessary to ram down our throats 24 7.

I welcome the old stuff! It's tried and true!

let me put it to you this way. the fab four occupy multiple places on my bedroom walls, and i just finished listening to all of dark side of the moon while looking at a 56x40 inch version of its cover in strobe lighting. and the only song from within the last fifteen years on my computer is "ice ice baby" because i wanted to see exactly how similar it was to "under pressure." and those beatles posters? straight from the white album (sure they're 30 some years old, but there still aren't any thumbtack marks in them or anything (though the big one has been folded in the album jacket for 30 years)

i even listen to my music on 30 year old stereo equipment (alright, alright, the cd player and headphones are new, but at least the 'phones are the size of ones from 30 years ago)


old music > you

Well I listen to a lot of metal myself, mostly up and coming stuff. By metal I do mean metal. So bands like At The Gates, Judas Preist, Dungeon, Zyklon, Fear Factory, Immortal, Megadeth, Metallica, Testament, Alchemist (from Australia not the shitheads who collaberated with linkin park), Blood Duster, Vintersorg, Borknagar...

Along with Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Pink Floyd, The Beach Boys and Eagles.

To name a few.

ooo, do you know what vintersorg means? it means winter sorrow. just a fun fact, if it is a scandinavian band.

Bah, 70s rock sucks.

That said new music isn't much better.

It's all about 80s and early 90s hardcore and emo. :)

And lest we forget the 80s to now industrial/ebm/elektro/powernoize/power electronics/coldwave/ect... scene, which is pretty cool.

And grindcore/powerviolence, easily the best way to write 20 second songs.

And crust punk.

Well I listen to a lot of metal myself, mostly up and coming stuff. By metal I do mean metal. So bands like At The Gates, Judas Preist, Dungeon, Zyklon, Fear Factory, Immortal, Megadeth, Metallica, Testament, Alchemist (from Australia not the shitheads who collaberated with linkin park), Blood Duster, Vintersorg, Borknagar...

Along with Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Pink Floyd, The Beach Boys and Eagles.

To name a few.

ooo, do you know what vintersorg means? it means winter sorrow. just a fun fact, if it is a scandinavian band.

Yeah I know. Its basically one guy who gets a few other members from his previous bands together. He's now the front man of Borknagar.

Bah, 70s rock sucks.

That said new music isn't much better.

It's all about 80s and early 90s hardcore and emo. :)

fahn... i forgot what emo means again(ive been explained it about 10 times this year by the same person at school. :oops: )

Emotional rock. They wear coke-bottle framed eye glasses and cry.

Bah, 70s rock sucks.

That said new music isn't much better.

It's all about 80s and early 90s hardcore and emo. :)

fahn... i forgot what emo means again(ive been explained it about 10 times this year by the same person at school. :oops: )

Emotional hardcore.

They scream and thrash around (and occassionally cry at the climaxes of the songs) and generally look like thrift-store nerds.

Download some Indian Summer, Saetia, Heroin and Moss Icon for an idea of the sound.

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I'll say this.

"Oldies" and "rap" are the only (repeat only) genres of music I hate.

I can't stand the music my parents play. I also can't stand some of the music my friends play... :?

I'll say this.

"Oldies" and "rap" are the only (repeat only) genres of music I hate.

I can't stand the music my parents play. I also can't stand some of the music my friends play... :?

Rap is definitley up there in my list of 'most hated genres of music' followed closely by 'soul-baring', emotionally obsessed rnb

Asides from those 2 any other music from any decade is fine with me but I think it takes a good deal of looking to find genuinely good music now.

ohh yeah another thing... and i have a giant stack of records that my dad gave me... i play them on this old school record player from the mid 60s. it was my dads too.
and i definately have a shrine built in my room for the beatles.. various sculptures, posters (including a signed one that i was able to get for 7 bucks!! and its not screen printed either...), postcards, pictures, a fab four clock, and a lamp...
its fantastic.

mmmm

It’s got something to do with the minimal to zero talent in today’s music.

Rap...don’t get me started, I can talk fast, talk about how big my balls are and how many people I shot too.... and how ghetto I am when I live in a million dollar home in upstate New York

Even new rock suffers from this

3 chords.....maybe even NO cords....and someone screaming so inaudibly that....its just annoying to listen to.

Of course there are a few exception in both rap and new rock

I think there's some good music available today, but it's not mainstream. It's indy stuff--truly indy, not record company "indy."

Part of the problem with today's music is the same problem that has always existed, only now record companies have far more power than they ever did before. The problem is that if someone--let's use Nirvana as an example fromt he 90s--hits it big because they're original, the record companies go into full on copycat mode and put out a hundred bands who are just like them, only not edgy. I'm talking about the Seven Mary Three bands of the world.

Difference now is that thanks to Clear Channel and the other major conglomerates, it's impossible for a truly independent group to break through. So I say, go to your local clubs and see people who are busting their asses for you there and buy their cds from them--they make more money that way--and support independent artists whenever you can.

I listen to classical, mozart, beethoven. Also Wagner. I refuse to listen to most modern music because it is mostly degenerate filth. Swing music was degenerate filth and the dancing people did to it was overtly sexual.

One of the problems, I think, is that there is no variety in music that gets air-play. It seems like everyone is trying to sound the same. There were once different genres of music, now there might as well be one radio station because everything sounds pretty much the same.

One of the problems, I think, is that thier is no variety in music that gets air-play. It seems like everyone is trying to sound the same. There were once different genres of music, now there might as well be one radio station because everything sounds pretty much the same.That's basically what I said in my post, only it's not just the musicians who are trying that--it's the record companies who are doing it to us by determining what we can hear on the radio.

Swing music was degenerate filth and the dancing people did to it was overtly sexual.

that statement just murdered me. swing dancing is so not sexual.. not very at all. watch MTV... then go swing dancing.
you'll feel like a puritan.

swing music is so incredible... its where its at.

*eyes fluffy suspiciously before backing away slowly*

swing dancing is fun. the music aint as good as the dancing though.

One of the problems, I think, is that thier is no variety in music that gets air-play. It seems like everyone is trying to sound the same. There were once different genres of music, now there might as well be one radio station because everything sounds pretty much the same.That's basically what I said in my post, only it's not just the musicians who are trying that--it's the record companies who are doing it to us by determining what we can hear on the radio.
its kind of funny, you know? looking back, i see a mistake one record label made that you'd think others would use as a model.
the beatles tried to sign with this one company, but they said that guitar bands were on their way out. they rejected the beatles.

now you see the rubbish being flown about clearchannel (its sad.. they've gotten a hold of los lonely boys.. :-( ) and i just wonder what it would be like if they took risks, you know? signed the indie people who are incredible...

One of the problems, I think, is that thier is no variety in music that gets air-play. It seems like everyone is trying to sound the same. There were once different genres of music, now there might as well be one radio station because everything sounds pretty much the same.That's basically what I said in my post, only it's not just the musicians who are trying that--it's the record companies who are doing it to us by determining what we can hear on the radio.Music has taken a back-seat to a catchy hook that some assholes can print on a t-shirt.

swing dancing is fun. the music aint as good as the dancing though.
you like swing dancing too? fantastic. wow, officially on my cool list now. well you were before, but you are definately on it now.. uh.. yeah.. if that made sense

swing dancing is fun. the music aint as good as the dancing though.
you like swing dancing too? fantastic. wow, officially on my cool list now. well you were before, but you are definately on it now.. uh.. yeah.. if that made sense

uh... thanks? i think.

The thing about ClearChannel is that they've got the record companies by the short and curlies because they dominate the airwaves. If the record companies can't get onto ClearChannel stations, then they're literally screwed. So they pay--through middlemen--to get airplay. It's an advanced form of payola. Eric Boehlert at Salon.com has done a ton of work on the subject.

So the record companies find something that sells, and then in order to make money, find clones and get them on ClearChannel which then drives them into hit-dom. And the listener is screwed.

P.S. For a good place to hear indy acts at times, tune into Austin City Limits on PBS. Not always new, not always great, but generally better than any of the crap you'll get on the radio.

I like a lot of Classic rock bands
Iced Earth, number one
Metallica, up until Load, they were the best, then, meh, and now, thanks to St Anger…utter crap
Megadeth
The Who
Journey
Foreigner
Golden Earring
Van Halen
ZZ Top
Uriah Heep
The Scorpions
Styx
Led Zeppelin, and I don’t mean just Stairway to Heaven
Judas Priest
And many more…

But I like some new rock too
Mudvayne
Drowning Pool
Taproot
Disturbed
And so on…

Thing is, I cant listen to the entire CD’s of the new rock bands, where as I can with classic rock

I didn’t buy Ride the Lightening or Master of Puppets for ONE SONG. There’s no skipping around on The Glorious Burden or Some Wicked This Way Comes. Capital Punish held my attention all the way through.

But, I bought Liberate for just a few songs….and I bought the new Mudvayne album for World so Cold…and that’s all

See the difference?

P.S. For a good place to hear indy acts at times, tune into Austin City Limits on PBS. Not always new, not always great, but generally better than any of the crap you'll get on the radio.
you are a smart kid.

have you ever actually been to ACL? the festival? it's incredible. tons of fantastic bands, for 3 days straight. there are stages everywhere, and tons of bands always playing.
you should check it out, the lineup is going to be great this year. ive already chosen a ton of the bands i wanna see..

My youngest brother is 18, and he likes Kiss, Johnny Cash, and Dr. Hook. Me? I think this is awesome. Especially since Dr. Hook had a lot of lyrics written by Shel Silverstein. :D

Hell, A Boy Named Sue was written by Shel Silverstein. There is some really good music from the eras that came before, and if you watch the bands of the sixties performing on film, and let yourself pretend they're a new band, they are just as fresh as the things being produced today, and a good deal more original.

It still freaks my mom out a bit, though, that the stuff she listened to in high school is being called "oldies", and that her kids think it's cool.

Swing music was degenerate filth and the dancing people did to it was overtly sexual.

that statement just murdered me. swing dancing is so not sexual.. not very at all. watch MTV... then go swing dancing.
you'll feel like a puritan.

swing music is so incredible... its where its at.

*eyes fluffy suspiciously before backing away slowly*


Swing music is degenerate filth.

MTV is double degenerate filth. I don't like either, scratch that, I don't "Not like" them I HATE THEM!

The only real dancing is 18th and 19th century ballroom dancing.

P.S. For a good place to hear indy acts at times, tune into Austin City Limits on PBS. Not always new, not always great, but generally better than any of the crap you'll get on the radio.
you are a smart kid.

have you ever actually been to ACL? the festival? it's incredible. tons of fantastic bands, for 3 days straight. there are stages everywhere, and tons of bands always playing.
you should check it out, the lineup is going to be great this year. ive already chosen a ton of the bands i wanna see..Not a kid--I'm 35--and unfortunately the only time I went to see any band in Austin was when I was too young to appreciate it. I have a relative who plays in Willie Nelson's band, and we saw him in Austin when I was 5 or so. Seen him dozens more times all across the US.

Best music festival I've been to was Memphis in May about three years ago--Willie, Dave Matthews, Ben Harper, String Cheese Incident, Bob Dylan, George Clinton and the Parliament Pfunkadelic, and I haven't even gotten to the Blues tent. Three just amazing days of music.

I think Fluffy already feels like a Puritan ;)

MTV is double degenerate filth. I don't like either, scratch that, I don't "Not like" them I HATE THEM!
The only real dancing is 18th and 19th century ballroom dancing.

here we finally agree on something... i really hate mtv... and ballroom is really fun.

I think Fluffy already feels like a Puritian ;)Fluffy's playing you guys.

I think Fluffy already feels like a Puritian ;)Fluffy's playing you guys.

And so am I....look, we're all having a good ole time...

Fluffy's playing you guys.


No he is not.

The only real dancing is 18th and 19th century ballroom dancing.

well, it beats that swaying stuff most people do.

The only real dancing is 18th and 19th century ballroom dancing.

I can honestly say that there is no feeling as wonderful as that of being with someone who can lead. It feels like you're graceful without even trying. You get carried away, and it is truly harmony between the two of you. Cooperation at its finest.

P.S. For a good place to hear indy acts at times, tune into Austin City Limits on PBS. Not always new, not always great, but generally better than any of the crap you'll get on the radio.
you are a smart kid.

have you ever actually been to ACL? the festival? it's incredible. tons of fantastic bands, for 3 days straight. there are stages everywhere, and tons of bands always playing.
you should check it out, the lineup is going to be great this year. ive already chosen a ton of the bands i wanna see..Not a kid--I'm 35--and unfortunately the only time I went to see any band in Austin was when I was too young to appreciate it. I have a relative who plays in Willie Nelson's band, and we saw him in Austin when I was 5 or so. Seen him dozens more times all across the US.

Best music festival I've been to was Memphis in May about three years ago--Willie, Dave Matthews, Ben Harper, String Cheese Incident, Bob Dylan, George Clinton and the Parliament Pfunkadelic, and I haven't even gotten to the Blues tent. Three just amazing days of music.

that one sounds really good. wow. ben harper is awesome live... as the rest are, i imagine. i'm trying to convince my parents to come with me to willie nelsons annual public party this year...
ah don't worry, i call everyone "kid". its my peculiar way of showing respect...
austin is a great city for live music. live music capital of the world.
you should at least check it out, give it a look for what its worth. www.aclfestival.com

I want to go to the ACL festival. OMG. There are some amazing bands that will be there. I'd say it's worth using my vacation time for.

WOW.

that one sounds really good. wow. ben harper is awesome live... as the rest are, i imagine. i'm trying to convince my parents to come with me to willie nelsons annual public party this year...
ah don't worry, i call everyone "kid". its my peculiar way of showing respect...
austin is a great city for live music. live music capital of the world.
you should at least check it out, give it a look for what its worth. www.aclfestival.comOne day I will, no doubt. I still have family in Texas, and have a couple of friends in Austin from the Michener center. I'll get there one day. And I wasn't insulted about the kid thing--just figured maybe you didn't know. I'll certainly take it as the sign of respect you intend it as. :lol:

I want to go to the ACL festival. OMG. There are some amazing bands that will be there. I'd say it's worth using my vacation time for.

WOW.

i can honestly say its one of the most incredible experiences ever. i bought a 3 day pass a couple months ago..
last year, i was able to get really close to a couple of awesome bands. one being REM.. it was heaven

Anyone who says that today's music sucks hasn't looked hard enough. Then again, they don't deserve to hear the good stuff anyway.

DP

im 16 the only stuff i listen to are the beatles, pink floyd, zepplin,stones, and old areosmith...new music is teh suck ;) i hate rap becuase what its based of was black expession and they changed it to 'bitch ho bitch bitch ho money ho'


the doors i forgot the doors they ownz j00!

I find that good older music is good :o I mean, not just old pop crap, but cenerally, classic rock is pretty good, I have nothing in particular against jazz for that matter, but I generally listen to more recent stuff, and of course older metal bands like Sabbath,Priest, Maiden, Megadeth, Testament, Metal Church etc, and newer bands which I'm not going to bother listing all of them....

i'm just blown away by how many younger people like 70s music!!!

It kinda makes me feel glad to have been there while it was happening :D

Can't stand the new stuff - however! Alabama3 are fantastic and i went to hear them a coupla years ago. Absolutely terrific - great music, great lyrics.

I'm a teenager, but I don't like most of what is on the radio today. Some of my favorite groups are "The Beatles" and "Journey". I like older music because back then they had to have talent to have a successful career in music. Unlike most of the artists today.

I'm 14 and I really like old stuff, Ian Dury and the Blockheads mainly but I like some old rock. (Sex Pistols, Meatloaf, Queen, T-Rex..)

I'm 14 and I really like old stuff, Ian Dury and the Blockheads mainly but I like some old rock. (Sex Pistols, Meatloaf, Queen, T-Rex..)

You must be british. Most people in the US have never heard of Ian Dury, or for that matter Paul Weller, or The Jam. Or even really T-Rex. They might have heard "Get it On", but they won't have heard any of Marc Bolan's other songs. It's a pity, really.

Howdy!!! That is so cool that you guys, like me, in the (I'm assuming) under-20 set, love oldies!!! and jazz!!!! and swing!!! but not the cheesy smooth jazz that sounds like the Weather Channel. I have a 45 player, but at the moment it's broken. CHICAGO IS THE BEST BAND EVER!!!!!!!!!!!! w00tarama! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: YAY!!!!!!!!!!! Rap is Dumb! I like Jazz!

I'm a reggae fan, so most of the music I listen to is over 20 years old. Blues is also one of my favorites. I love Robert Johnson and Muddy waters. I also like some old soul and R&B. Swing is a lot of fun, too. There are plenty of rock bands I love, too. I like the Stones, Pink Floyd, and I used to play in a Doors revival band. The Who's Keith Moon is my favorite drummer. Can't forget some good ol punky stuff like the Clash, Jam, and Dead Kennedys. I also dig old industrial like Fad Gadget, bauhaus, and einsturzende neubauten, but I guess 80s music really isnt that "old"...

I'm 14 and I really like old stuff, Ian Dury and the Blockheads mainly but I like some old rock. (Sex Pistols, Meatloaf, Queen, T-Rex..)

You must be british. Most people in the US have never heard of Ian Dury, or for that matter Paul Weller, or The Jam. Or even really T-Rex. They might have heard "Get it On", but they won't have heard any of Marc Bolan's other songs. It's a pity, really.
I'm british, I saw Durys greatist hits album in HMV and my mum said it was good, so i got it for her for her Birthday and it turned out that I liked it to so I went down to HMV the next day and brought it.

I did the same to get into t-Rex and the Sex Pistols, you've got to love that, The Greatest Rock hits in the world ever' album...

Incertonia cleared up nicely why the mainstream is more restrictive these days than it may have been in the past. It really is just an extension of what has been happening since the begining of radio, but now it's a science.

So now we come to adress the idea of children and older music. These are children (starting with me and Incertonia generation) that where raised by a generation that has fetishized nostalgia. The baby-boomers wallowed in thier past, relived it, canonized it, and offered it to thier children as something unsurpassable. How many times have I seen someone older deride someone for not knowing who the drummer for the Who was? We (my generation has become complacent in the fetishization of nostalgia now) have pressured the oncoming generations into living in the past. I hadn't graduated high school before we started looking for things to be nostalgic about, and still I have items of nostalgia from my own time (Sid & Marty Croft shows) and eras not even my parents where around for (Old radio dramas). A friend of mine in a pop punk band released an album that was nostalgic for a period two years prior. (Using the style cues "Big pants, Small wheels" refering to rave pants and small wheeled skateboards, both of which some people where still using when the album came out.....)

So, sir columnist, you have ingrained your past into your kids, so don't be suprised when they go in the direction they've been shoved.

There is good music today...you're just not going to find it on the radio or tv. Musis isn't really worse than in the past, it just seems that way, because you only remember the ones that were good.

argh! A music post! I can't help but throw in my 2 cents worth...

I am glad that the young 'uns are not all listening to teeny bobber crap like Avril and Britney and the other MTV influenced pap that passes for music.....barely passes that is....

Me...my tastes are very wide ranging from stupid metal to hardcore classical to 1920's punk to dub and ska to industrial madness to two tone to manic ivory tickelers to deep south blues to bangra to Gregorian chanting to what ever sounds good to my ears.

I do not follow the charts (never have) nor do I watch pop/music shows....its all pap.

The record companies are not there to spread music...they are there to make money for themselves and their share holders.

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I'm 18. My musical tastes range from Nirvana to Rage Against the Machine, Dead Kennedys to the Clash, Led Zeppelin to Pink Floyd. (and of course many many more)

Modern rock music is total shite. Nickelback? Creed? Yuck. Rap is everywhere. Every time I turn on the local music channel, it's hip-hop or the like. At clubs, R&B and Hip-hop. BORING. So it's natural that any young person with a taste in rock music and half a brain will go back to the past to look for good music.

For good modern rock, I'd recommend Queens of the Stone Age first and the White Stripes second.

(BTW I play blues rock/garage rock/grunge/metal in a "band" with some friends from time to time. :))

Yep - all pop and most rock music today DOES suck.

Whenever I flip on a music video on cable, I'm confronted with one of the following:

- So called "R&B" (which used to mean rythm and blues) with either some girl waving her ass in the camera and yodelling about how "fine" she is; or some guy wearing more jewellery than Mr T thumping his chest and waxing lyrical about what a badass and what a ladies man he is...and 90% of the time the music is ripped from an old 70s or 80s tune...

- The latest doomcookie "metal" band (and this really pains me, as I love GOOD metal) whining about how hard life is being a teenager while pumping out recycled Sabbath riffs

- The latest winner of some BS "reality" TV show singing a bad cover version, trying to earn every cent they can before the slide back into the obscurity they belong to

Popular music today is at an all time low - thank god for independent bands.

Hello. I have enjoyed reading this thread. I'm 29 and have always liked a variety of music. My favorite bands/artists thus far are The Cure, Pink Floyd, Nirvana, Joy Division, Rage Against the Machine, Roberta Flack, Nina Simone jazz jazz jazz (of all types), Patsy Cline, Randy Travis, George Strait, Metallica (before Load)....geez I could go on and on. Rap? Not for me. I get tired of hearing about ho's and bitches and bustin' a cap in yer ass, etc. Latley, maybe because I'm getting older and calming down a bit..LOL...I've been into country, but not the newer shit. Ah, I don't know what I'm saying....only that today's music is total crap.

Britney Spears....'nuff said. :mp5:

Still, I think music is starting to get out of the post-grunge dark age...we're seeing a few rock bands going back to their roots and actually showing themselves as a commercial success.

BTW, i don't find all rap terrible. Earlier groups like Public Enemy I do really enjoy, and there are some relatively unknown groups that do good music (eg. Corporate Avenger)...but just like everything, when commercialised, it goes to hell.

Yep - all pop and most rock music today DOES suck.

Whenever I flip on a music video on cable, I'm confronted with one of the following:

- So called "R&B" (which used to mean rythm and blues) with either some girl waving her ass in the camera and yodelling about how "fine" she is; or some guy wearing more jewellery than Mr T thumping his chest and waxing lyrical about what a badass and what a ladies man he is...and 90% of the time the music is ripped from an old 70s or 80s tune...

- The latest doomcookie "metal" band (and this really pains me, as I love GOOD metal) whining about how hard life is being a teenager while pumping out recycled Sabbath riffs

- The latest winner of some BS "reality" TV show singing a bad cover version, trying to earn every cent they can before the slide back into the obscurity they belong to

Popular music today is at an all time low - thank god for independent bands.

indie indie indie! i need some money so i can fuel my lust for indie bands and buy music.

I'm 16, I hate rap, pop, etc. Give me Beatles, The Doors, etc. any day

I'm 16, I hate rap, pop, etc. Give me Beatles, The Doors, etc. any day

curiously enough, though wholeheartedly enjoying beatles-inspired music, i can't listen to the actual beatles. and it's not out of trying to appear too cool for them-i'm not a pretentious jerk. i just can't listen to 'em.

I listen to classic rock because it is the only music that I can relate to. My dad loves that I love the same music as him

i luv britny spaers and jesika sipzun - tehy r teh b3stness

The thing you fail to realize is that this "loving the oldies" is merely a fad. A fad that is bound to happen from time to time. Kinda like yo-yo's. they were once very popular and then they became totally dorky. Once the late 90's came about you had kids in every school playing with a damn yo yo thinking they are looking cool. Now... yo yo's are rather dorky again.


To a lesser extent the same thing is happening with skateboarding and punk(although to a less extent and you really cant consider what is called "punk" today to be true punk).


Now with the rising popularity of bands like the strokes, the vines, and the white stripes... you have kids thinking they are cool because they grow their hair out, smoke a few joints and listen to classic music. Its a trend... all it is


Personally I cant stand most of the classical junk. It seems boring to me, not enough excitement. However it is also true that I hate most of the modern stuff aswell.


Some classic folk rock is good but thats about it. I'm mostly a black metal, death metal kind of guy.

Grunge was great, however nirvana is highly over rated. Grunge bands like mudhoney and soundgarden truly made grunge.


With that said... I cant listen to the radio period. No matter if its classical rock or modern music.. all is garbage to me honestly
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Well, this is all you need right here: http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/player/simple.asx?ID=6786
(Click it and it will play an awesome song for you.)

or just head on over to www.indienow.com

unlike most indie radio, there's not too much emo shit.

or just head on over to www.indienow.com

unlike most indie radio, there's not too much emo shit.

Ick...
http://www.bassdrive.com/BassDrive.m3u -- nuff said.