NationStates Jolt Archive


Forum starting to suck?

Meshuggahn
13-06-2004, 06:29
Is it just me or is this forum really starting to suck. Im not going to name names, but the mods at least in my opinion are starting go a bit over board. The only things we are allowed to talk about are who belives in God and who hates Bush more. I guess im just venting and this will probably get locked, but what about you guys? You agree?
Pax Salam
13-06-2004, 06:29
Is it just me or is this forum really starting to suck. Im not going to name names, but the mods at least in my opinion are starting go a bit over board. The only things we are allowed to talk about are who belives in God and who hates Bush more. I guess im just venting and this will probably get locked, but what about you guys? You agree?

You forgot Reagan, Gay Marriage, Conservativism...
Squornshelous
13-06-2004, 06:30
also abortion and animal rights
Skeelzania
13-06-2004, 06:30
Bah. In my opinion, the General Forum is just a waste of bandwith. We have enough right/left wing whackjobs RPing as it is.
Avia
13-06-2004, 06:30
"starting"

haha

yeah... im here for the occasional entertaining thread.. and i like the clubs a lot.
theyve been like this for as long as i can remember.
almost a year now
Mutant Dogs
13-06-2004, 06:30
Starting? :?
Insane Troll
13-06-2004, 06:31
I remember the golden age of the forum, ah, that was a good time.
SS DivisionViking
13-06-2004, 06:32
well what do you expect from the minions of zog. the etjs want to turn our minds to mush so that they can breed us like cattle into another grey slave race.
NewXmen
13-06-2004, 06:32
Well, start new topics that you like...
Raysian Military Tech
13-06-2004, 06:32
Is it just me or is this forum really starting to suck. Im not going to name names, but the mods at least in my opinion are starting go a bit over board. The only things we are allowed to talk about are who belives in God and who hates Bush more. I guess im just venting and this will probably get locked, but what about you guys? You agree?you could try... I dunno... RPing?
Lutton
13-06-2004, 06:33
there is an alternative! (http://www.myfreeib.com/members/?mforum=SSA)
Kwangistar
13-06-2004, 06:33
Perhaps General could be split in two, one for politics/debate and the other for things like the club threads and general spam.
Pax Salam
13-06-2004, 06:33
I remember the golden age of the forum, ah, that was a good time.

When pray tell was that?

Also, was it a good time, or a not-this-bad time?
Mutant Dogs
13-06-2004, 06:36
there is an alternative! (http://www.myfreeib.com/members/?mforum=SSA)

W00t!!
SS DivisionViking
13-06-2004, 06:36
Is it just me or is this forum really starting to suck. Im not going to name names, but the mods at least in my opinion are starting go a bit over board. The only things we are allowed to talk about are who belives in God and who hates Bush more. I guess im just venting and this will probably get locked, but what about you guys? You agree?you could try... I dunno... RPing?


mmm... but rping is for geeky mommas boys who live in their parents basements with shrines to liv tyler in her elf costume hidden behind their dungeon master's screen and a six foot stack of manga porn.
Insane Troll
13-06-2004, 06:37
I remember the golden age of the forum, ah, that was a good time.

When pray tell was that?

Also, was it a good time, or a not-this-bad time?

Back when Parra was still here.

When I could come online any time and argue with neo-nazis.

It seems like there were more interesting threads back then.
Lutton
13-06-2004, 06:37
Is it just me or is this forum really starting to suck. Im not going to name names, but the mods at least in my opinion are starting go a bit over board. The only things we are allowed to talk about are who belives in God and who hates Bush more. I guess im just venting and this will probably get locked, but what about you guys? You agree?you could try... I dunno... RPing?


mmm... but rping is for geeky mommas boys who live in their parents basements with shrines to liv tyler in her elf costume hidden behind their dungeon master's screen and a six foot stack of manga porn.

Only a six-foot stack! Pah! Beginners!
Pax Salam
13-06-2004, 06:40
I remember the golden age of the forum, ah, that was a good time.

When pray tell was that?

Also, was it a good time, or a not-this-bad time?

Back when Parra was still here.

When I could come online any time and argue with neo-nazis.

It seems like there were more interesting threads back then.

Oh man, the neonazis were so fun...Mongoose Spatula and the like. Then again, you can always go to stormfront now.
Insane Troll
13-06-2004, 06:41
Remember Schorgenland?

He was my favorite.
SS DivisionViking
13-06-2004, 06:44
I remember the golden age of the forum, ah, that was a good time.

When pray tell was that?

Also, was it a good time, or a not-this-bad time?

Back when Parra was still here.

When I could come online any time and argue with neo-nazis.

It seems like there were more interesting threads back then.

Oh man, the neonazis were so fun...Mongoose Spatula and the like. Then again, you can always go to stormfront now.


so what you are saying is i need to create yet another nazi puppet, and play this one perfectly straight. ss was supposed to be that troll, but i always either break character or just get too silly.
Mutant Dogs
13-06-2004, 06:45
Join the SSA™
Insane Troll
13-06-2004, 06:47
so what you are saying is i need to create yet another nazi puppet, and play this one perfectly straight. ss was supposed to be that troll, but i always either break character or just get too silly.

You have no idea how happy it would make me if you could stay in character.

But wait a little till I forget about this thread so I don't know it's you.

Ignorance is bliss after all.
Meshuggahn
13-06-2004, 06:49
Sorry, I guess Im still to new to the furom to know how good the good ol days were. I just started noticing more stopped threats than there were when I started reading here.

I agree with kwangistar, there should be a political/religious type forum, and a real general furom where you can do whatever the crap you want including shareing riddles, cause we arent allowed to do that here.
Lutton
13-06-2004, 06:50
Join the SSA™

Yes! (http://www.myfreeib.com/members/?mforum=SSA) It's got insane mods, insane admis and perfectly sane, oppressed members.
You'll feel right at home. :roll:
Mutant Dogs
13-06-2004, 06:51
Join the SSA™

Yes! (http://www.myfreeib.com/members/?mforum=SSA) It's got insane mods, insane admis and perfectly sane, oppressed members.
You'll feel right at home. :roll:

333 :shock:
SS DivisionViking
13-06-2004, 06:52
i talk to a few real nazis who are worth arguing with on other forums, the problem here is that they all tend to lose their tempers, start flaming and get deleted. let's face it, a real neonazi without an anger control problem is a rare and genuinely eerie thing. that's something that always intregued me about parra, very little anger .
Insane Troll
13-06-2004, 06:54
i talk to a few real nazis who are worth arguing with on other forums, the problem here is that they all tend to lose their tempers, start flaming and get deleted. let's face it, a real neonazi without an anger control problem is a rare and genuinely eerie thing. that's something that always intregued me about parra, very little anger .

MS was the most decent neonazi, I kind of liked him.

And Parra, she rocked out.
Mutant Dogs
13-06-2004, 06:56
Aaaaah Parra 8)
SS DivisionViking
13-06-2004, 07:01
i actually found out about this site from a neo nazi(well more white seperatist actually... i think), i think he still has a few active country, but i don't know what name he usually posted under and i'm fairly sure he hasn't posted here in months

confederate glory/ dasbuck you out there man....
The Blue Viper II
13-06-2004, 07:07
what do you mean "Starting"? It already does suck!
BackwoodsSquatches
13-06-2004, 07:07
i actually found out about this site from a neo nazi(well more white seperatist actually... i think), i think he still has a few active country, but i don't know what name he usually posted under and i'm fairly sure he hasn't posted here in months

confederate glory/ dasbuck you out there man....

If it makes you feel any better, sometimes I forget that your in character.
SS DivisionViking
13-06-2004, 07:20
i'll leave buck a message on his ag message board to stop back over here, but i doubt he will, he doesn't actively dislike me, but nazis never like to feel like they are your pet fascist who you can ask to do whacky national socialist tricks to amuse your friends. he's pretty civil, i don't think he's been banned, but...
Insane Troll
13-06-2004, 07:22
i'll leave buck a message on his ag message board to stop back over here, but i doubt he will, he doesn't actively dislike me, but nazis never like to feel like they are your pet fascist who you can ask to do whacky national socialist tricks to amuse your friends. he's pretty civil, i don't think he's been banned, but...

I think I'd be offended if someone asked me to start posting so people could make fun of me.
Kuro Yume
13-06-2004, 07:25
I remember the golden age of the forum, ah, that was a good time.

When pray tell was that?

Also, was it a good time, or a not-this-bad time?

Back when Parra was still here.

When I could come online any time and argue with neo-nazis.

It seems like there were more interesting threads back then.

yes, that was the golden era. so fun... i only stay on NS hoping that 1 day it will be like that again...
SS DivisionViking
13-06-2004, 07:25
i'll leave buck a message on his ag message board to stop back over here, but i doubt he will, he doesn't actively dislike me, but nazis never like to feel like they are your pet fascist who you can ask to do whacky national socialist tricks to amuse your friends. he's pretty civil, i don't think he's been banned, but...

I think I'd be offended if someone asked me to start posting so people could make fun of me.

ya i'll have to watch his back if he shows up, he's really not a bad guy in his own strange way.
Insane Troll
13-06-2004, 07:26
Maybe I'm drunk, but tonight on the forum has been fun.
MKULTRA
13-06-2004, 09:27
the problem is the mods are biased against any displays of human emotion and deat people whenever things get most interesting-I heard on my radio once that alot of europeans have some kinda cultural malfunction that they were programmed at an early age that any display of anger or strong emotion is taboo--maybe that could explain why they need to keep sanitizing the boards of all humanity and making this a like a sterile graveyard
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 09:33
Yep...basically all conservatives post at their own risk and if you provide facts you are deemed either:

(a) a spammer
(b) a flamer
(c) a liar

Perhaps a solution to General growing old is to banish MODS from using their powers in this forum (just this one) and let NS operate like the real-world.

...to improve NS altogether, MODS should be elected by NS players (one vote per player - puppets not accepted) and we would then have a healthy bipartisan mix - rather than extremes.
Kuro Yume
13-06-2004, 09:34
the problem is the mods are biased against any displays of human emotion and deat people whenever things get most interesting-I heard on my radio once that alot of europeans have some kinda cultural malfunction that they were programmed at an early age that any display of anger or strong emotion is taboo--maybe that could explain why they need to keep sanitizing the boards of all humanity and making this a like a sterile graveyard

emotion... deep dude. personally i think the modz jus hate our asses cuz they have a job that they dont get paid for...

seriously though, why would you except a job that u dont get paid for? isnt that like illegal?
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 09:37
seriously though, why would you except a job that u dont get paid for? isnt that like illegal?

It is all about power and exploiting authority (with a mix of psychological disorders). The powert to delete-on-site and threaten others without repercussions appeals to many.

We often find this in the policy, military etc...even government.

Power corrupts...or does corruption lead to power? A bit of both I think.
Insane Troll
13-06-2004, 09:38
Yep...basically all conservatives post at their own risk and if you provide facts you are deemed either:

(a) a spammer
(b) a flamer
(c) a liar

Perhaps a solution to General growing old is to banish MODS from using their powers in this forum (just this one) and let NS operate like the real-world.

...to improve NS altogether, MODS should be elected by NS players (one vote per player - puppets not accepted) and we would then have a healthy bipartisan mix - rather than extremes.

The real world operates without police?

Last time I checked, anarchy wasn't in effect.

If it weren't for them, this place would be plauged with spammers, do you have any idea how a forum functions?
Kuro Yume
13-06-2004, 09:39
seriously though, why would you except a job that u dont get paid for? isnt that like illegal?

It is all about power and exploiting authority (with a mix of psychological disorders). The powert to delete-on-site and threaten others without repercussions appeals to many.

We often find this in the policy, military etc...even government.

Power corrupts...or does corruption lead to power? A bit of both I think.

hehe. the mods have psychological disorders... but wait. what kind of power hungry maniac would settle for being a mod on an internet site? why not aim higher? like being the bully at the local kindergarden, or president of the US?
MKULTRA
13-06-2004, 09:41
Yep...basically all conservatives post at their own risk and if you provide facts you are deemed either:

(a) a spammer
(b) a flamer
(c) a liar

Perhaps a solution to General growing old is to banish MODS from using their powers in this forum (just this one) and let NS operate like the real-world.

...to improve NS altogether, MODS should be elected by NS players (one vote per player - puppets not accepted) and we would then have a healthy bipartisan mix - rather than extremes.I wish theyd just let a debate run its course flames and all--is anyone so delicate that they cant handle strong words on a monitor?
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 09:42
seriously though, why would you except a job that u dont get paid for? isnt that like illegal?

It is all about power and exploiting authority (with a mix of psychological disorders). The powert to delete-on-site and threaten others without repercussions appeals to many.

We often find this in the policy, military etc...even government.

Power corrupts...or does corruption lead to power? A bit of both I think.

hehe. the mods have psychological disorders... but wait. what kind of power hungry maniac would settle for being a mod on an internet site? why not aim higher? like being the bully at the local kindergarden, or president of the US?

Well...although the MODS are regular users here and we do not know what jobs they hold in real life (if any), chances are they are in positions of authority as well. There is generally a link.
MKULTRA
13-06-2004, 09:42
the problem is the mods are biased against any displays of human emotion and deat people whenever things get most interesting-I heard on my radio once that alot of europeans have some kinda cultural malfunction that they were programmed at an early age that any display of anger or strong emotion is taboo--maybe that could explain why they need to keep sanitizing the boards of all humanity and making this a like a sterile graveyard

emotion... deep dude. personally i think the modz jus hate our asses cuz they have a job that they dont get paid for...

seriously though, why would you except a job that u dont get paid for? isnt that like illegal?theyre payment is their power trip
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 09:43
The real world operates without police?

Last time I checked, anarchy wasn't in effect.

If it weren't for them, this place would be plauged with spammers, do you have any idea how a forum functions?

Yes I understand. However, the police in real life do not have the powers of a dictator like MODS do here.

The police are accountable (to a degree) and I suggest we make MODS accountable too.

MODS should police forums, not rule them.
MKULTRA
13-06-2004, 09:44
Yep...basically all conservatives post at their own risk and if you provide facts you are deemed either:

(a) a spammer
(b) a flamer
(c) a liar

Perhaps a solution to General growing old is to banish MODS from using their powers in this forum (just this one) and let NS operate like the real-world.

...to improve NS altogether, MODS should be elected by NS players (one vote per player - puppets not accepted) and we would then have a healthy bipartisan mix - rather than extremes.

The real world operates without police?

Last time I checked, anarchy wasn't in effect.

If it weren't for them, this place would be plauged with spammers, do you have any idea how a forum functions?yeah but theyre not just stopping spam are they? they deat people who display emotions
Petsburg
13-06-2004, 09:45
Is it just me or is this forum really starting to suck. Im not going to name names, but the mods at least in my opinion are starting go a bit over board. The only things we are allowed to talk about are who belives in God and who hates Bush more. I guess im just venting and this will probably get locked, but what about you guys? You agree?

Always has done since parra went, really
Kuro Yume
13-06-2004, 09:45
Yep...basically all conservatives post at their own risk and if you provide facts you are deemed either:

(a) a spammer
(b) a flamer
(c) a liar

Perhaps a solution to General growing old is to banish MODS from using their powers in this forum (just this one) and let NS operate like the real-world.

...to improve NS altogether, MODS should be elected by NS players (one vote per player - puppets not accepted) and we would then have a healthy bipartisan mix - rather than extremes.I wish theyd just let a debate run its course flames and all--is anyone so delicate that they cant handle strong words on a monitor?

yes
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 09:46
yeah but theyre not just stopping spam are they? they deat people who display emotions

Indeed. I have witnessed many deletions (all of them conservative by the way) which are unwarranted.

But many nations who flame, spam etc continuously remain untouched (primarily left wing nations)

It is no conspiracy, but part of the pshycology surrounding power hungry people. Hitler is a perfect example of this disorder.
MKULTRA
13-06-2004, 09:47
Yep...basically all conservatives post at their own risk and if you provide facts you are deemed either:

(a) a spammer
(b) a flamer
(c) a liar

Perhaps a solution to General growing old is to banish MODS from using their powers in this forum (just this one) and let NS operate like the real-world.

...to improve NS altogether, MODS should be elected by NS players (one vote per player - puppets not accepted) and we would then have a healthy bipartisan mix - rather than extremes.I wish theyd just let a debate run its course flames and all--is anyone so delicate that they cant handle strong words on a monitor?

yesthey should have a flame forum on NS
Insane Troll
13-06-2004, 09:48
Just like police, mods are an underappreciated neccesity.

I hate little kids with no respect for authority, it's necessary, and they're just doing their jobs, stop cocking off and maybe they'll treat you with some respect.
Kuro Yume
13-06-2004, 09:48
Yep...basically all conservatives post at their own risk and if you provide facts you are deemed either:

(a) a spammer
(b) a flamer
(c) a liar

Perhaps a solution to General growing old is to banish MODS from using their powers in this forum (just this one) and let NS operate like the real-world.

...to improve NS altogether, MODS should be elected by NS players (one vote per player - puppets not accepted) and we would then have a healthy bipartisan mix - rather than extremes.I wish theyd just let a debate run its course flames and all--is anyone so delicate that they cant handle strong words on a monitor?

yesthey should have a flame forum on NS

personally i dont really like the idea of a flame forum, but they should allow flames- either ignore or flame back. thats the deal.
MKULTRA
13-06-2004, 09:49
yeah but theyre not just stopping spam are they? they deat people who display emotions

Indeed. I have witnessed many deletions (all of them conservative by the way) which are unwarranted.

But many nations who flame, spam etc continuously remain untouched (primarily left wing nations)

It is no conspiracy, but part of the pshycology surrounding power hungry people. Hitler is a perfect example of this disorder.I was a leftwinger quota who was deated--but I agree alot of the conservatives who butts I enjoyed whooping have all been purged
Insane Troll
13-06-2004, 09:51
yeah but theyre not just stopping spam are they? they deat people who display emotions

Indeed. I have witnessed many deletions (all of them conservative by the way) which are unwarranted.

But many nations who flame, spam etc continuously remain untouched (primarily left wing nations)

It is no conspiracy, but part of the pshycology surrounding power hungry people. Hitler is a perfect example of this disorder.I was a leftwinger quota who was deated--but I agree alot of the conservatives who butts I enjoyed whooping have all been purged

You copied and pasted ridiculous articles constantly, no wonder you were deated.
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 09:51
Just like police, mods are an underappreciated neccesity.

I hate little kids with no respect for authority, it's necessary, and they're just doing their jobs, stop cocking off and maybe they'll treat you with some respect.

But when police abuse their power, there are repercussions (sometimes). NS should be no different.

Tell me why MODS should be above their own laws?

I believe we should elect MODS...one man, one vote. It is time to put an end to Big Brother.

[anyone want to predict how long it takes for the MODS to come down on this thread, lock it, and/or banish all those who posted here?]
Kuro Yume
13-06-2004, 09:52
yeah but theyre not just stopping spam are they? they deat people who display emotions

Indeed. I have witnessed many deletions (all of them conservative by the way) which are unwarranted.

But many nations who flame, spam etc continuously remain untouched (primarily left wing nations)

It is no conspiracy, but part of the pshycology surrounding power hungry people. Hitler is a perfect example of this disorder.I was a leftwinger quota who was deated--but I agree alot of the conservatives who butts I enjoyed whooping have all been purged

You copied and pasted ridiculous articles constantly, no wonder you were deated.

but ridiculous=hilarious! if there were more TRAs in this forum, it would be a more fun place! funner!
MKULTRA
13-06-2004, 09:53
Just like police, mods are an underappreciated neccesity.

I hate little kids with no respect for authority, it's necessary, and they're just doing their jobs, stop cocking off and maybe they'll treat you with some respect.but the mods have no concept of public relations--they dont talk to the players they just act and treat what we think with contempt. Why cant they deat nicely? and why dont they have a liazon to represent the players?
Insane Troll
13-06-2004, 09:54
The mods aren't immune to their own laws.

Do you see them wating bandwith by spamming or flaming?

Didn't think so.

The mods won't lock this thread, unless it gets out of hand. This is the last thing we need, another conspiracy theorist. Someone who thinks that ANYone in any position of power is out to get him.

Grow up.
MKULTRA
13-06-2004, 09:54
Yep...basically all conservatives post at their own risk and if you provide facts you are deemed either:

(a) a spammer
(b) a flamer
(c) a liar

Perhaps a solution to General growing old is to banish MODS from using their powers in this forum (just this one) and let NS operate like the real-world.

...to improve NS altogether, MODS should be elected by NS players (one vote per player - puppets not accepted) and we would then have a healthy bipartisan mix - rather than extremes.I wish theyd just let a debate run its course flames and all--is anyone so delicate that they cant handle strong words on a monitor?

yesthey should have a flame forum on NS

personally i dont really like the idea of a flame forum, but they should allow flames- either ignore or flame back. thats the deal.I vote aye
Kuro Yume
13-06-2004, 09:55
Just like police, mods are an underappreciated neccesity.

I hate little kids with no respect for authority, it's necessary, and they're just doing their jobs, stop cocking off and maybe they'll treat you with some respect.but the mods have no concept of public relations--they dont talk to the players they just act and treat what we think with contempt. Why cant they deat nicely? and why dont they have a liazon to represent the players?

NO DEATATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!

*ransacks the mod`s tea ship and throws all the tea overboard*

*steals a box for his own personal use*

*runs away!*
MKULTRA
13-06-2004, 09:56
yeah but theyre not just stopping spam are they? they deat people who display emotions

Indeed. I have witnessed many deletions (all of them conservative by the way) which are unwarranted.

But many nations who flame, spam etc continuously remain untouched (primarily left wing nations)

It is no conspiracy, but part of the pshycology surrounding power hungry people. Hitler is a perfect example of this disorder.I was a leftwinger quota who was deated--but I agree alot of the conservatives who butts I enjoyed whooping have all been purged

You copied and pasted ridiculous articles constantly, no wonder you were deated.all the articles I posted were the REAL news the corporate media in america isnt allowed to cover--I was performing a public service
Filea
13-06-2004, 09:57
Is it just me or is this forum really starting to suck. Im not going to name names, but the mods at least in my opinion are starting go a bit over board. The only things we are allowed to talk about are who belives in God and who hates Bush more. I guess im just venting and this will probably get locked, but what about you guys? You agree?

I agree It isn't as good as the off-site forums
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 09:58
I feel a deletion coming...but at the same time a revolution.

We are bound to be hearing rhymes such as: "To the guillotine, to the guillotine, send the MODS to the guillotine" in the near future I am sure.

...uh...but let us hope we do not end up with a power vaccum. That could prove troublesome. Anarchy never did anyone good.
Insane Troll
13-06-2004, 09:59
yeah but theyre not just stopping spam are they? they deat people who display emotions

Indeed. I have witnessed many deletions (all of them conservative by the way) which are unwarranted.

But many nations who flame, spam etc continuously remain untouched (primarily left wing nations)

It is no conspiracy, but part of the pshycology surrounding power hungry people. Hitler is a perfect example of this disorder.I was a leftwinger quota who was deated--but I agree alot of the conservatives who butts I enjoyed whooping have all been purged

You copied and pasted ridiculous articles constantly, no wonder you were deated.all the articles I posted were the REAL news the corporate media in america isnt allowed to cover--I was performing a public service

:roll:
MKULTRA
13-06-2004, 09:59
yeah but theyre not just stopping spam are they? they deat people who display emotions

Indeed. I have witnessed many deletions (all of them conservative by the way) which are unwarranted.

But many nations who flame, spam etc continuously remain untouched (primarily left wing nations)

It is no conspiracy, but part of the pshycology surrounding power hungry people. Hitler is a perfect example of this disorder.I was a leftwinger quota who was deated--but I agree alot of the conservatives who butts I enjoyed whooping have all been purged

You copied and pasted ridiculous articles constantly, no wonder you were deated.

but ridiculous=hilarious! if there were more TRAs in this forum, it would be a more fun place! funner!I think there should be more Kuros too to add exstasy to the fun
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 09:59
The mods aren't immune to their own laws.

Do you see them wating bandwith by spamming or flaming?

Didn't think so.

The mods won't lock this thread, unless it gets out of hand. This is the last thing we need, another conspiracy theorist. Someone who thinks that ANYone in any position of power is out to get him.

Grow up.

Could you please provide evidence that the MODS are not above their own laws?

No...it is the behaviour of MODS that has led to many many players to begin questioning just how much power is too much power.
Insane Troll
13-06-2004, 10:00
It's not like they go on deletion rampages, the last few deletions I've seen were perfectly justified.

It's all a matter or perspective I guess.
MKULTRA
13-06-2004, 10:02
Just like police, mods are an underappreciated neccesity.

I hate little kids with no respect for authority, it's necessary, and they're just doing their jobs, stop cocking off and maybe they'll treat you with some respect.but the mods have no concept of public relations--they dont talk to the players they just act and treat what we think with contempt. Why cant they deat nicely? and why dont they have a liazon to represent the players?

NO DEATATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!

*ransacks the mod`s tea ship and throws all the tea overboard*

*steals a box for his own personal use*

*runs away!* :lol: :lol: :lol:
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 10:04
It's not like they go on deletion rampages, the last few deletions I've seen were perfectly justified.

It's all a matter or perspective I guess.

Indeed...Have you any idea how many people are deleted every day? Too many! Very few of them did anything other than express their views rationally.

The fact that one person took offence to a comment (mostly posted by a conservative player) has been cause for deletion. Yet many spammers and flamebaiters (often left wing posters) remain untouched.

It is time for MOD elections.
Lapse
13-06-2004, 10:04
Look, people... lets calm down about th9is issue...im no mod lover, bty i know when we go to far.

True the mods have gone to far by outlawing everything apart from debates
but it is also true that we are playing his game for free. Lutton poosted a link on the first page where quite a few of us hang out now to spam-lite alot.

so remember, if you really start whinging, Max might just decide that it isnt worth it keeping this site up...
Insane Troll
13-06-2004, 10:05
It's not like they go on deletion rampages, the last few deletions I've seen were perfectly justified.

It's all a matter or perspective I guess.

Indeed...Have you any idea how many people are deleted every day? Too many! Very few of them did anything other than express their views rationally.

The fact that one person took offence to a comment (mostly posted by a conservative player) has been cause for deletion. Yet many spammers and flamebaiters (often left wing posters) remain untouched.

It is time for MOD elections.

Evidence.

My evidence for them not being immune to the laws is a lack of evidence proving otherwise.
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 10:06
Look, people... lets calm down about th9is issue...im no mod lover, bty i know when we go to far.

True the mods have gone to far by outlawing everything apart from debates
but it is also true that we are playing his game for free. Lutton poosted a link on the first page where quite a few of us hang out now to spam-lite alot.

so remember, if you really start whinging, Max might just decide that it isnt worth it keeping this site up...

You mean, when utopia caves in and reality shines through this site will be closed?

Why have a forum where people can discuss issues if heated discussion is banned? (heated discussion = emotive language)
BackwoodsSquatches
13-06-2004, 10:06
The mods aren't immune to their own laws.

Do you see them wating bandwith by spamming or flaming?

Didn't think so.

The mods won't lock this thread, unless it gets out of hand. This is the last thing we need, another conspiracy theorist. Someone who thinks that ANYone in any position of power is out to get him.

Grow up.

Could you please provide evidence that the MODS are not above their own laws?

No...it is the behaviour of MODS that has led to many many players to begin questioning just how much power is too much power.

Ive seen a mod or two flame AND troll...and nothing happened to them.
MKULTRA
13-06-2004, 10:07
Look, people... lets calm down about th9is issue...im no mod lover, bty i know when we go to far.

True the mods have gone to far by outlawing everything apart from debates
but it is also true that we are playing his game for free. Lutton poosted a link on the first page where quite a few of us hang out now to spam-lite alot.

so remember, if you really start whinging, Max might just decide that it isnt worth it keeping this site up...Max is buzy with his books
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 10:07
Evidence.

My evidence for them not being immune to the laws is a lack of evidence proving otherwise.

You know that same response ended in a deletion 48 hours ago. Now is that really reason enough? Is commonsense no longer tolerated?
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 10:10
Ive seen a mod or two flame AND troll...and nothing happened to them.

And I have seen rude MOD comments removed from posts when someone complains as if the post never existed.

Some will say "oh here we go with another conspiracy"...but think about it. Is it so hard for someone with ultimate power to abuse it?
Sye
13-06-2004, 10:20
Just like police, mods are an underappreciated neccesity.

I hate little kids with no respect for authority, it's necessary, and they're just doing their jobs, stop cocking off and maybe they'll treat you with some respect.but the mods have no concept of public relations--they dont talk to the players they just act and treat what we think with contempt. Why cant they deat nicely? and why dont they have a liazon to represent the players?

NO DEATATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!

*ransacks the mod`s tea ship and throws all the tea overboard*

*steals a box for his own personal use*

*runs away!*

RIGHT ON!!!!
BackwoodsSquatches
13-06-2004, 10:21
Ive seen a mod or two flame AND troll...and nothing happened to them.

And I have seen rude MOD comments removed from posts when someone complains as if the post never existed.

Some will say "oh here we go with another conspiracy"...but think about it. Is it so hard for someone with ultimate power to abuse it?

No. Its not even a stretch.

The thing is...while I believe almost all the mods are good people at heart, there is no way for anyone to call them out when they do go overboard...and it DOES happen occasionally.

the old stand-by is.."Well..you can always report it to an Admin. (Violet).."

But...

when was the last time you, or anyone else has ever heard about Violet or anyone else ever chastising a Mod for anything.......?
The Atheists Reality
13-06-2004, 10:25
Ive seen a mod or two flame AND troll...and nothing happened to them.

And I have seen rude MOD comments removed from posts when someone complains as if the post never existed.

Some will say "oh here we go with another conspiracy"...but think about it. Is it so hard for someone with ultimate power to abuse it?

No. Its not even a stretch.

The thing is...while I believe almost all the mods are good people at heart, there is no way for anyone to call them out when they do go overboard...and it DOES happen occasionally.

the old stand-by is.."Well..you can always report it to an Admin. (Violet).."

But...

when was the last time you, or anyone else has ever heard about Violet or anyone else ever chastising a Mod for anything.......?

wanna start a peaceful protest thread? :shock:
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 10:25
Some will say "oh here we go with another conspiracy"...but think about it. Is it so hard for someone with ultimate power to abuse it?

No. Its not even a stretch.

The thing is...while I believe almost all the mods are good people at heart, there is no way for anyone to call them out when they do go overboard...and it DOES happen occasionally.

the old stand-by is.."Well..you can always report it to an Admin. (Violet).."

But...

when was the last time you, or anyone else has ever heard about Violet or anyone else ever chastising a Mod for anything.......?

Never! How do we even contact "violet"?
BackwoodsSquatches
13-06-2004, 10:29
Some will say "oh here we go with another conspiracy"...but think about it. Is it so hard for someone with ultimate power to abuse it?

No. Its not even a stretch.

The thing is...while I believe almost all the mods are good people at heart, there is no way for anyone to call them out when they do go overboard...and it DOES happen occasionally.

the old stand-by is.."Well..you can always report it to an Admin. (Violet).."

But...

when was the last time you, or anyone else has ever heard about Violet or anyone else ever chastising a Mod for anything.......?

Never! How do we even contact "violet"?

Theres a e-mail addy, but It never does anyone any good.

Its like admin@nationstates.net or something like that.....
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 10:33
Visit our Peaceful Protest thread at:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=152835
Saltania
13-06-2004, 10:37
Mleh. This is only my third day of NationStates.

If you think the forums suck, pop into the U.N. forum once in a while - some enlightening discussion going on.

But wait... you might want to start caring about that kinda thing first.
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 11:25
I notice how the MODS locked the peaceful protest thread. This futher attests to what many players have been reporting.

...it is sad to see how we are not allowed to express our views without being ostracised.
Tactical Grace
13-06-2004, 11:29
Meh, there's a difference between expressing views and acting like petulant children.
The Atheists Reality
13-06-2004, 11:32
Meh, there's a difference between expressing views and acting like petulant children.
then how would we express our views in a thread like the protest one without the thread being locked?
Mutant Dogs
13-06-2004, 11:35
Meh, there's a difference between expressing views and acting like petulant children.

What if they are petulant children expressing their views? :shock:
Mutant Dogs
13-06-2004, 11:35
Meh, there's a difference between expressing views and acting like petulant children.
then how would we express our views in a thread like the protest one without the thread being locked?

Easy Tar. 8)

Don't want to go and get ourselves deleted :x
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 11:37
Indeed.
Tactical Grace
13-06-2004, 11:39
Meh, there's a difference between expressing views and acting like petulant children.
What if they are petulant children expressing their views? :shock:
Then they should attain a minumum of maturity and wisdom, fast.
Mutant Dogs
13-06-2004, 11:43
Has this thread been modbombed yet? :shock:
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 11:43
Has this thread been modbombed yet? :shock:

I give it 5 hours.
Mutant Dogs
13-06-2004, 11:44
Has this thread been modbombed yet? :shock:

I give it 5 hours.

2 :shock:
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 11:49
Has this thread been modbombed yet? :shock:

I give it 5 hours.

2 :shock:

LOL was that a bet? HEHE
Bodies Without Organs
13-06-2004, 11:51
I think it is ironic that I have yet to see a professed anarchist poster (ie. those that treat rules and authority with deep suspicion) get deleted, yet I have seen plenty of fascist and neo-nazi posters (ie. those that argue what the world needs is complete obedience to rules and authority) go the way of the Dodo. Why do the fascists and neo-nazis so often seem incapable of following the rules of the site?


Certainly there are a couple of infrequent neo-nazi posters that do avoid breaking rules, but they seem to be greatly outnumbered by those that feel the need to transgress. Strange.
Thuthmose III
13-06-2004, 11:55
I think it is ironic that I have yet to see a professed anarchist poster (ie. those that treat rules and authority with deep suspicion) get deleted, yet I have seen plenty of fascist and neo-nazi posters (ie. those that argue what the world needs is complete obedience to rules and authority) go the way of the Dodo. Why do the fascists and neo-nazis so often seem incapable of following the rules of the site?


Certainly there are a couple of infrequent neo-nazi posters that do avoid breaking rules, but they seem to be greatly outnumbered by those that feel the need to transgress. Strange.

So in light of my mentioning a high number of conservatives getting the axe, you then turn around and talk about a high level of neo-nazis going the way of the Dodo.

I am sure this blatant display of flamebait (the insinuation that conservatives are neo-nazis - in context) will be ignored.
Colodia
13-06-2004, 11:57
Is it just me or is this forum really starting to suck. Im not going to name names, but the mods at least in my opinion are starting go a bit over board. The only things we are allowed to talk about are who belives in God and who hates Bush more. I guess im just venting and this will probably get locked, but what about you guys? You agree?
I don't know. What does it suck?
Bodies Without Organs
13-06-2004, 12:07
Certainly there are a couple of infrequent neo-nazi posters that do avoid breaking rules, but they seem to be greatly outnumbered by those that feel the need to transgress. Strange.

So in light of my mentioning a high number of conservatives getting the axe, you then turn around and talk about a high level of neo-nazis going the way of the Dodo.

I am sure this blatant display of flamebait (the insinuation that conservatives are neo-nazis - in context) will be ignored.

I protest my innocence here.

The post was not intended as a response to your post, and it would be idiotic to suggest that Conservatives = Neo-nazis. That was not my intention at all. I was refering to avowed neo-nazis or fascists such as "White Britain", "Schorgenland", "Fascist White States" and other the names of which temporarily escape me, all of whom underwent deletion after breaking the rules of the site.


I'll state it clearly again:

Conservatives != Neo-Nazis.
Gibratlar
13-06-2004, 12:32
IMO, the mods have wayyyyyyyyyy too much power and dey abuse it.

anyways, we can talk about uder stuff 'part from da ones dat u sed, so yeah...

but still, the whole NS forum just DDDDOOOOOOOWWWWNNNNN after Forum 7 left... it's just too much.... too much for me... I.... *cries*

:roll:
Sheilanagig
13-06-2004, 12:44
Sometimes even the things that suck are amusing, like the little incident with TCM last night. What an idiot.

I haven't really been here that long, but I've seen plenty of forums that sucked worse. It's alright here. It's about par for the course, at any rate. I like it.
Mutant Dogs
13-06-2004, 12:52
IMO, the mods have wayyyyyyyyyy too much power and dey abuse it.

anyways, we can talk about uder stuff 'part from da ones dat u sed, so yeah...

but still, the whole NS forum just DDDDOOOOOOOWWWWNNNNN after Forum 7 left... it's just too much.... too much for me... I.... *cries*

:roll:

TAR? :shock:
Mutant Dogs
13-06-2004, 12:53
Why does this thread get me so down? :x

I feel the urge to post lyrics to some depressing song :evil:
Superpower07
13-06-2004, 14:47
I remember the golden age of the forum, ah, that was a good time.

Especially with my 'Warping Quotes' thread - too bad all word games are banned now
Word Games
13-06-2004, 14:53
Is it just me or is this forum really starting to suck. Im not going to name names, but the mods at least in my opinion are starting go a bit over board. The only things we are allowed to talk about are who belives in God and who hates Bush more. I guess im just venting and this will probably get locked, but what about you guys? You agree?

You just noticed?
Mutant Dogs
13-06-2004, 14:55
Is it just me or is this forum really starting to suck. Im not going to name names, but the mods at least in my opinion are starting go a bit over board. The only things we are allowed to talk about are who belives in God and who hates Bush more. I guess im just venting and this will probably get locked, but what about you guys? You agree?

You just noticed?

Cheeky bugger. Tell me whose puppet you are :evil:
Word Games
13-06-2004, 15:03
Not sure I want to reveal that just yet..

This place is getting really just a bit much, too many rules. What is wrong with a bit of harmless spam?
Mutant Dogs
13-06-2004, 15:05
Not sure I want to reveal that just yet..

This place is getting really just a bit much, too many rules. What is wrong with a bit of harmless spam?

Ok give me a hint.

What letter did your nations name end with?
13-06-2004, 15:07
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Word Games
13-06-2004, 15:09
Word Games
13-06-2004, 15:18
No

*gets up on a soap box*

Spammers unite!

*gets down again*

Whoa, I missed something there.. :shock:
Quillaz
13-06-2004, 15:21
No
*gets up on a soap box*
Spammers unite!
*gets down again*

Whoa, I missed something there.. :shock:

Strange...as soon as TG disappears from the General Forum, Word Games comes on. :wink:
Word Games
13-06-2004, 15:23
I avoid mods..Since I got deleted.

*Looks both ways*
13-06-2004, 15:24
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Quillaz
13-06-2004, 15:25
I avoid mods..Since I got deleted.
*Looks both ways*
Omg! It's michaeljackson666!
Enerica
13-06-2004, 15:25
I avoid mods..Since I got deleted.

*Looks both ways*

TG?? :shock:

Tactical Grace a Forum Mod.
Word Games
13-06-2004, 15:25
Ba Bye.. :shock:
13-06-2004, 15:27
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Word Games
13-06-2004, 15:28
No. Both guesses are wrong.

*Wow double IP Scanned) :shock:
13-06-2004, 15:37
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Word Games
13-06-2004, 15:38
Speaking of dead puppets..
Zwange
13-06-2004, 15:48
There are to many rules....I need to spam

+1 8)
Word Games
13-06-2004, 15:51
I quite agree.

I have seen Mods partake in spam. You don't see them deleting themselves do you?

I just want to have fun.
13-06-2004, 15:54
Flaming can be a good thing. I think some people can't see the wood for the trees!
Word Games
13-06-2004, 15:55
Flame is another matter, bye bye..
13-06-2004, 15:57
Flame is another matter, bye bye..

Why are you going somewhere?
Word Games
13-06-2004, 15:57
Not me.. :D
Word Games
13-06-2004, 16:04
Busy day at the office TG..
Tactical Grace
13-06-2004, 16:08
Busy day at the office TG..
Oh yes. By my count, that makes 14 of that type since this time yesterday. Then there was the unconnected troll puppet army created in the Pacifics, and a purge of obscenely-named nations in The Rejected Realms. I would be heavily into double-figures if it was me dispatching them personally.
Word Games
13-06-2004, 16:11
Busy day at the office TG..
Oh yes. By my count, that makes 14 of that type since this time yesterday. Then there was the unconnected troll puppet army created in the Pacifics, and a purge of obscenely-named nations in The Rejected Realms. I would be heavily into double-figures if it was me dispatching them personally.

I figure that's how I got caught, someone was too busy and deleted me. I was beeing a bit bad, but not real bad.
13-06-2004, 16:18
13-06-2004, 16:20
TG must be good at one handed typing to get so much done. :wink:
Word Games
13-06-2004, 16:22
please :shock:
13-06-2004, 16:24
please :shock:

Please what, fucko?