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Greatest FORMER Presidents.

Lunatic Goofballs
12-06-2004, 21:57
Of all 20th century presidents, who has done the most to better the world...AFTER leaving office? Keep in mind, that we are talking about only post-presidential years. My vote goes to Jimmy Carter. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that he was a far better ex-president than he was a president! Runner-up is George Bush Sr. His 'Points of Light' foundation has accomplished a lot of good.

I think that in 20 years, that Bill Clinton will probably top them all as far as ex-presidents. But his post-office career is still young.
Daistallia 2104
12-06-2004, 22:10
The evil cynic in my wants to suggest President McKinley.... :twisted:

William H, "I don't remember that I ever was President." Taft (http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/wt27.html) who went on to be a pretty good SC chief justice.

As far as recent presidents go, I'd say that Carter has been out just long enough to start looking at his post presidential accomplishments. Reagan, GHWBush, and Clinton have yet to really settle long enough to allow for a good judgement....
Avia
12-06-2004, 22:36
I would have to agree with LG, Bill Clinton was one of our best president this century, among a few.
I think it's pretty silly that he had to go through that whole thing with Monica... if he wants to have consentual sex with one of his workers, so be it. It's not even our place to get into it. I don't see why everyone freaked out. He didn't rape her, after all...

Anyway, I really like Bill. Yaaaay.
Tactical Grace
12-06-2004, 22:42
Without a doubt, Carter. He understood the shape of things to come, but never stood a chance of doing anything about it. History will remember him, in a footnote, as someone who didn't play the great game, but understood it.
Kwangistar
12-06-2004, 23:00
Teddy Roosevelt.

Without the Panama Canal, America would be a totally different country.

Harry Truman was also good.
Japaica
13-06-2004, 04:19
Carter had a horrible foreign policy. His attempts at "lets make the world be happy" were a complete failure. (look at Israel)

But, he's excelent after he left office. :D (if that counts)
Idle Hands
13-06-2004, 04:23
[quote] Keep in mind, that we are talking about only post-presidential years. My vote goes to Jimmy Carter. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that he was a far better ex-president than he was a president! [quote]

Genius! I couldn't have said it better myself. Besides his work on the international diplomacy front, JC stays very active close to home, as a major contributor and builder with Habitat for Humanity.
Ashmoria
13-06-2004, 04:24
carter was the most moral man we have ever had for president. a true christian. he did get the camp david accords but he wasnt too good at getting cooperation from congress even though it was controlled by his own party
Japaica
13-06-2004, 04:25
carter was the most moral man we have ever had for president. a true christian. he did get the camp david accords but he wasnt too good at getting cooperation from congress even though it was controlled by his own party

Congress is stupid :evil:
New Foxxinnia
13-06-2004, 04:27
You know what's ironic? Jimmy Carter's initals are JC. He's a carpenter. And he loves peace. ...
13-06-2004, 04:28
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Zyzyx Road
13-06-2004, 04:35
Abe Lincoln
Purly Euclid
13-06-2004, 04:35
Jimmy Carter was a wonderful humanitarian and diplomat after his presidency. But on the same token, so was Hoover.
Daistallia 2104
13-06-2004, 04:54
Abe Lincoln
Along with Harrison, Taylor, Garfield, McKinley, FDR, and Kennedy. :wink:
Of those, again I'd say McKinley. He left us in the hands of TR, one of the greats.
Zyzyx Road
13-06-2004, 04:58
I'm glad you got the joke. :)
Squornshelous
13-06-2004, 05:33
Truman, he stood up to Joseph Stalin and kept the USSR from expanding even more, if it weren't for him, we might all be refering to each other as "comrade" now.
Jhenova
13-06-2004, 05:34
id have to say Mr. Jefferson was the best president ever, though the word Honkey made me sad.
Vasily Chuikov
13-06-2004, 05:46
Children...we're talking about best ex-presidents, meaning who accomplished the most or was most impressive AFTER they left office...

in this category, I'd have to say either Jimmy Carter for all his humanitarian work (mediocre president, but a nice guy who really wants to help out, so he turned his clout post-presidency to doing good deeds on a large scale...go Jimmy!)

Or possibily William Howard Taft, became a very effective and much admired Chief Justice of the Supreme Court after being landslided out of office. Apparently he is said to have enjoyed being the Chief Justice greatly more than being President

John Quincy Adams also is known for his famous post-presidency career as a Congressman, eventually ending up as the Speaker of the House, a master politician, and is the man who successfully defended the Amistad slaves in front of the Supreme Court after they're uprising. He secured their freedom....quite impressive.
Jhenova
13-06-2004, 05:47
I don't like you.
Vasily Chuikov
13-06-2004, 05:51
I don't like you.

Aww, thats harsh... I bet you'd like me just fine if you got to know me lol...
Hailden
13-06-2004, 05:53
all U.S. presidents are corrupted old men!
Jhenova
13-06-2004, 05:54
i just said that to cover up the fact im in love with you, Verionica. :oops:
New Gumboygle
13-06-2004, 05:58
GWBush will be great as a FORMER president... :wink:
Jhenova
13-06-2004, 06:01
wouldnt it be funny if he was the last? cause like, he nuked iraq and started this huge nuclear war?

jus imagine him in a ten gallon hat sitting on this huge atom bomb cheering some grass and screaming in his sundays best about the fury of god coming down







-Ghost, "You called the storm, now here comes the thunder"
Ashmoria
13-06-2004, 06:02
Children...we're talking about best ex-presidents, meaning who accomplished the most or was most impressive AFTER they left office....

OOHHHHHHH *smacks self in the side of the head*
*feels smarter*

well then its jimmy carter hands down
but i bet bill clinton is the best ex president..... in bed
New Gumboygle
13-06-2004, 06:04
On a serious note, though... I'd say Carter. I haven't lived through that many, and school tends to ignore presidents after they leave office, but Carter seems to be the one I hear the most about, post-presidency.
Vasily Chuikov
13-06-2004, 06:04
Children...we're talking about best ex-presidents, meaning who accomplished the most or was most impressive AFTER they left office....

OOHHHHHHH *smacks self in the side of the head*
*feels smarter*

well then its jimmy carter hands down
but i bet bill clinton is the best ex president..... in bed


But i bet JFK was the best president in bed, in office...the man got Marilyn Monroe...and Jackie...good lord...


Or maybe T.R, considering what a vigorous man he was in all other aspects


ooh, gutter mind...better stop that before this gets locked...sorry
Ashmoria
13-06-2004, 06:11
ya but there has been talk recently of jfk's health and that he was in almost constant pain. its gotta cut into performance
The Black Forrest
13-06-2004, 06:15
Children...we're talking about best ex-presidents, meaning who accomplished the most or was most impressive AFTER they left office....

OOHHHHHHH *smacks self in the side of the head*
*feels smarter*

well then its jimmy carter hands down
but i bet bill clinton is the best ex president..... in bed


But i bet JFK was the best president in bed, in office...the man got Marilyn Monroe...and Jackie...good lord...


Or maybe T.R, considering what a vigorous man he was in all other aspects


ooh, gutter mind...better stop that before this gets locked...sorry

LBJ used to get annoyed by the JFK talk. He said he had way more women. I even heard a released recording of him talking to Jackie after JFK's death. The hound sounded like he was hitting on her!
Ashmoria
13-06-2004, 06:17
nooooo tbf
lbj said he had more women BY ACCIDENT than jfk ever had

but *shudder* id give him a pass
CanuckHeaven
13-06-2004, 06:18
Teddy Roosevelt.

Without the Panama Canal, America would be a totally different country.

Harry Truman was also good.
How about Herbert Hoover, since you are sticking to Republicans? After all they named a Dam after him.

FDR musta been one helluva great leader? He was elected for 3 straight terms. Too bad he passed away while in office.
Ashmoria
13-06-2004, 06:20
4 straight terms
CanuckHeaven
13-06-2004, 06:21
Personally speaking.......JFK was the best President during my lifetime.

It was a sad day when he was assassinated!! :cry:
CanuckHeaven
13-06-2004, 06:25
GWBush will be great as a FORMER president... :wink:
Don't you mean that it will be GREAt when Bush is a former President in 2005? 8)
Ashmoria
13-06-2004, 06:25
Personally speaking.......JFK was the best President during my lifetime.

It was a sad day when he was assassinated!! :cry:

i dint know you were that old
i dont remember kennedy as president, but the only picture of a president that was ever in my house growing up was JKF.
CanuckHeaven
13-06-2004, 06:28
Personally speaking.......JFK was the best President during my lifetime.

It was a sad day when he was assassinated!! :cry:

i dint know you were that old
i dont remember kennedy as president, but the only picture of a president that was ever in my house growing up was JKF.
Older than dirt here. :shock:
Kwangistar
13-06-2004, 06:28
Teddy Roosevelt.

Without the Panama Canal, America would be a totally different country.

Harry Truman was also good.
How about Herbert Hoover, since you are sticking to Republicans? After all they named a Dam after him.

FDR musta been one helluva great leader? He was elected for 3 straight terms. Too bad he passed away while in office.
Read a book. Truman was a Democrat.
Josh Dollins
13-06-2004, 06:33
Reagan.- wasn't fond of the deficits though
Washington
Adams
Coolidge
Madison- made a mistake with the war of 1812 however
Lincoln- though the whole allowing or not doing more to keep us from war and splitting thing bugs me but he was a good guy and did a well enough job.

Kennedy wasn't that great was much overated he just got alot of attention what with being assasinated.

FDR I can not deny was a good president if not great he did a swell job though I would have been very much opposed to his new deal and much of his other big government policies

Many whom we've never had such as barry goldwater and bob dole would have been better than none a number of third party candidates (libertarians etc.) as well.

LBJ sucked and so did carter. Ford was no one special nor was nixon.
CanuckHeaven
13-06-2004, 06:38
Teddy Roosevelt.

Without the Panama Canal, America would be a totally different country.

Harry Truman was also good.
How about Herbert Hoover, since you are sticking to Republicans? After all they named a Dam after him.

FDR musta been one helluva great leader? He was elected for 3 straight terms. Too bad he passed away while in office.
Read a book. Truman was a Democrat.
I knew that, thanks for reminding me.
Kwangistar
13-06-2004, 06:40
Teddy Roosevelt.

Without the Panama Canal, America would be a totally different country.

Harry Truman was also good.
How about Herbert Hoover, since you are sticking to Republicans? After all they named a Dam after him.

FDR musta been one helluva great leader? He was elected for 3 straight terms. Too bad he passed away while in office.
Read a book. Truman was a Democrat.
I knew that, thanks for reminding me.
Ok then. So I'm not particularly sticking to Republicans, since out of two Presidents I named in my post, one was a Republican and one was a Democrat.
Saipea
13-06-2004, 06:43
Of all 20th century presidents, who has done the most to better the world...AFTER leaving office? Keep in mind, that we are talking about only post-presidential years. My vote goes to Jimmy Carter. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that he was a far better ex-president than he was a president! Runner-up is George Bush Sr. His 'Points of Light' foundation has accomplished a lot of good.

I think that in 20 years, that Bill Clinton will probably top them all as far as ex-presidents. But his post-office career is still young.

Um, Lincoln is cliche, but how about Teddy Roosevelt. I have no interest in American history, but I heard Teddy Roosevelt was pretty good.

Also, they were both Republicans with arguably liberal attitude/actions.

*sigh* All the smart kind-hearted ones must have died or something.