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Does Reagan Rate His Own Bill?

Slap Happy Lunatics
12-06-2004, 04:00
There has been some discussion on placing RWR's likeness on US currency. Where is there some room for him?

Let's see,

Washington has the quarter and the $1
Jefferson the nickle and the $2
Lincoln has the penny and the $5
FDR has the dime
Hamilton, the first treasurer, has the $10
Kennedy's on the 1/2 dollar
Jackson has the $20
Grant the $50
Franklin the $100

Granted a few redundencies but I have a great idea! :idea: :!: :idea: :!:

Print an all new $500 bill with Reagan on it :!:

What could be more appropriate? Those he helped most should be the ones to have the same exclusive access even now.

What do you say?

SHL
Unfree People
12-06-2004, 04:03
Heck no. I wrote a letter to the editor in my local newspaper about two years ago when they first suggested taking Hamilton off.

As this editorial says, replacing Hamilton on the $10 bill "goes too far." Although Reagan might be worthy of a memorial in every county, it is foolish to rate him worthier than Hamilton for remembrance on the $10 bill.
Thanks to Hamilton, the United States survived the post-war threats presented to the new nation: trading difficulties with European nations, 13 different currencies in one country, serious lack of funds and the unfair prosecuting of Tories, to name only a few. The first secretary of the treasury outstripped even George Washington in his knowledge of the economy.
The fact that Hamilton wasn't a president is a ridiculous argument against him. He wasn't a president because he wasn't born in the United States. The ideal of America isn't about birth or titles it's about equality and liberty. There are several other people on currency who weren't presidents Benjamin Franklin is one of them.
It is just as absurd to replace Hamilton as it would be to replace Franklin.
All right, well you get the idea. It's preposterous.
CannibalChrist
12-06-2004, 04:03
put him on the three dollar bill
Superpower07
12-06-2004, 04:03
Dunno. Maybe we should kick Hamilton off the $10. Let's compare them:

Hamilton
*Helped rebuild South
*Restructured country after Civil War

Reagan
*Helped break up Soviet Union
*Nuclear arms reduction
Purly Euclid
12-06-2004, 04:03
I actually support Reagan on a $500. People will see him, because if you go to a grocery store only twice a month, you spend far more than $500 easily. Then again, I wouldn't mind Hamilton going. He was a bad politician who got killed when some dude killed him in a duel.
Slap Happy Lunatics
12-06-2004, 04:05
Heck no. I wrote a letter to the editor in my local newspaper about two years ago when they first suggested taking Hamilton off.

As this editorial says, replacing Hamilton on the $10 bill "goes too far." Although Reagan might be worthy of a memorial in every county, it is foolish to rate him worthier than Hamilton for remembrance on the $10 bill.
Thanks to Hamilton, the United States survived the post-war threats presented to the new nation: trading difficulties with European nations, 13 different currencies in one country, serious lack of funds and the unfair prosecuting of Tories, to name only a few. The first secretary of the treasury outstripped even George Washington in his knowledge of the economy.
The fact that Hamilton wasn't a president is a ridiculous argument against him. He wasn't a president because he wasn't born in the United States. The ideal of America isn't about birth or titles it's about equality and liberty. There are several other people on currency who weren't presidents Benjamin Franklin is one of them.
It is just as absurd to replace Hamilton as it would be to replace Franklin.
All right, well you get the idea. It's preposterous.

I all for leaving the esteemed Mr. Hamilton alone - He's buried up the block from me. But what about the $500 question?

SHL
Unfree People
12-06-2004, 04:06
Hamilton
*Helped rebuild South
*Restructured country after Civil War Ummm wrong Hamilton :lol: - the Hamilton on the $10 was the first secretary of the treasury and an awesome economist.

Then again, I wouldn't mind Hamilton going. He was a bad politician who got killed when some dude killed him in a duel. I'm no fan of the Federalists in general but Hamilton was brilliant, he got into the duel with Aaron Burr because Burr was insane (later Burr tried to make a couple stades ceed from the union with him as dictator-in-chief, and he was arrested and hung for treason) :lol:
Unfree People
12-06-2004, 04:07
I all for leaving the esteemed Mr. Hamilton alone - He's buried up the block from me. But waht about the $500 question? Really?? I visited his grave about three years ago - I guess I was right near you then. Pretty spot!

I voted for the $500 idea - snerk, snerk at Reagan. :D
Serengarve
12-06-2004, 04:10
Oh yeah, why not put Reagan on the $500? I mean, right now we have McKinley on there, and what did HE ever do? I took AP History, and I don't even remember discussing him.
Slap Happy Lunatics
12-06-2004, 04:10
I all for leaving the esteemed Mr. Hamilton alone - He's buried up the block from me. But waht about the $500 question? Really?? I visited his grave about three years ago - I guess I was right near you then. Pretty spot!

I voted for the $500 idea - snerk, snerk at Reagan. :D

Yep! You were and it is. Did you manage to see the restoration of Trinity Church completed? I forget when it ended - what with 9-11 and such I didn't walk that area for awhile.

SHL
Crelm
12-06-2004, 04:12
(I posted this on another thread but it works here too)


From Jimmy Breslin:


Reagan should be on a $3 bill
Jimmy Breslin

June 11, 2004

I offered my small prayer for Ronald Reagan when he was shot by this Hinckley. I said another prayer for him when I read this graceful note that he issued about his Alzheimer's.

Having said this, I now strongly endorse a suitable memorial for him.

Ronald Reagan belongs on a $3-bill.

You are supposed to honor and respect the dead. But you also must respect the truth, and live for the living - and this funeral has gone on for almost a week. I am in a car and I hear the radio announcer, who is supposed to be telling you news, whisper:

"The color guard quietly leaves the casket viewing area and marches with the colors towards the two hearses; they are taking no chances and have a backup ... "

I was waiting for him, or somebody next to him, to let out a sob.

For the funeral of Ronald Reagan, they took the body from Beverly Hills to Simi Valley, the white Los Angeles suburb, where it stayed for a day and a half or so then they drove it in one of these two hearses to the airport and flew it to Washington and then they had a march and afterwards put the casket into the Capitol for crowds to pass by and now there was to be another march and a religous service and then a drive to the airport, where the casket will be shuttled back to the airport south of Los Angeles and in a hearse to the final ceremony at his library on Friday. That is quite a funeral. They buried George Washingon in half the time.

You keep thinking of Harry Truman, whose code was, "Do not impose." He left an order that there were to be no eulogies at his funeral.

This man Reagan was 93 years old and out of it with Alzheimer's for many years and I don't see how anybody can summon grief. They proclaimed it a deep religious ceremony. Which it is not. His whole weeklong funeral is cheap, utterly distasteful American publicity.

The great American news industry, the Pekinese of the Press with so much room and time and nothing to say, compared Reagan to Lincoln and Hamilton, they really did. This is like claiming that the maintenance man wrote the Bill of Rights. And almost all the reporters agreed that Reagan was the man who brought down Russia in the Cold War.

Just saying this is absolutely sinful. The Cold War was won by a long memo written by George Kennan, who worked in the State Department and sent the memo by telegram about the need for a "Policy of Containment" on Russia. Kennan said the contradictions in their system would ruin them. Keep them where they are and they will tear themselves apart. We followed Kennan's policy for over 40 years. The Soviets made it worse on themselves by building a wall in East Berlin. When they had to tear it down and give up their system, Kennan was in Princeton and he sat down to dinner.

I thought that children were taught this. Instead, all week, reporters told us that Ronald Reagan won the Cold War. Beautiful.

Ronald Reagan was an actor. He was as real as the line he used to keep his fame alive. "Win one for the Gipper."

The line was complete Hollywood, down to agents who fought over it.

In 1938, a radio show, "Cavalcade of America," had a segment about coach Knute Rockne of Notre Dame and his star back, George Gipp, who was dying of pneumonia and supposedly said to Rockne, "Someday, when the team's up against it, the breaks are beating the boys, ask them to go in there with all they've got! Win one for the Gipper."

Warner Brothers bought the radio segment and assigned screen writer Robert Buckner to put the "Win one" line into his otherwise original screenplay of "Knute Rockne All American."

Pat O'Brien was Rockne and Reagan was George Gipp. Reagan delivered "Win one for the Gipper" extremely well; he was a lot better actor than he was supposed to be.

When the writers of the radio show saw the movie, they realized that this guy was getting their best line. "Win one ... "

"Where is ours?" they asked. Warner Brothers made a quick settlement and the film was released with Reagan's famous speech.

But for a television release, the line was taken out of the film because Warner didn't want to pay any more. It is back in the video, my friend Harry Haun notes in his book, "The Cinematic Century."

In government, he was as real as his trademark line. He was a callous man with a smile who cut taxes in 1981 and left this city and state without funds for such things as help for dependent children. He proudly hurt the boroughs of this city more than anyone before or after him. If you live in Brooklyn, the record shows that Ronald Reagan hated children. The city and state had to raise taxes to make up for money lost because of Reagan's great conservative movement. Reagan then raised taxes six times. He walked off, leaving us an enormous deficit but with a smile on his face that even the Gipper's fakery couldn't help us with.
Copyright © 2004, Newsday, Inc.
Unfree People
12-06-2004, 04:12
Yep! You were and it is. Did you manage to see the restoration of Trinity Church completed? I forget when it ended - what with 9-11 and such I didn't walk that area for awhile.

SHL No, I didn't - it was in April of 2000 that I was up there. I enjoyed it, though. A lot.
SS DivisionViking
12-06-2004, 04:13
they should but his face on the friggin euro, since it was their asses he saved from the commies more than ours. on the russian currency as well, since he helped them to wake up and save themselves from 70 years of nightmarish totalitarianism.
New Foxxinnia
12-06-2004, 04:13
We need a $15 bill. Or a $25. Put Reagan on one of those.
New Foxxinnia
12-06-2004, 04:27
We should take Lincoln off the penny and Washington off the quarter. They both are on dollar bills. There should be a rule that you can only be on one form of currency.
Friends of Bill
12-06-2004, 04:33
He should replace Jacson on the $20, and Jackson could have the half-dollar.
Serengarve
12-06-2004, 04:35
We should take Lincoln off the penny and Washington off the quarter. They both are on dollar bills. There should be a rule that you can only be on one form of currency.

There should also be a change to currency every few years as well-like maybe every 50 years?
Kisnesia
12-06-2004, 04:36
He should replace Jacson on the $20, and Jackson could have the half-dollar.

I've heard that suggested, since some people don't like Jackson due to the Native American issues he had.
Slap Happy Lunatics
12-06-2004, 04:36
Yep! You were and it is. Did you manage to see the restoration of Trinity Church completed? I forget when it ended - what with 9-11 and such I didn't walk that area for awhile.

SHL No, I didn't - it was in April of 2000 that I was up there. I enjoyed it, though. A lot.

So you got to see downtown in all it's glory. It is significantly different now. They did a beautiful job. I'll try to dig out a pic of it.
BBL on that.

SHL
Kwangistar
12-06-2004, 04:38
Kick Jackson off and take away Washington and Lincoln's duplicates, put TR, Truman, and Reagan on.
Unfree People
12-06-2004, 04:40
So you got to see downtown in all it's glory. It is significantly different now. They did a beautiful job. I'll try to dig out a pic of it.
BBL on that.

SHL Yep, was there before 9-11 (actually haven't been there since), we went up to the top of the WTC and did the whole nine yards; I don't have pictures from that trip and I'm very sorry not to. I'm not a picture kind of person.

As for Washington and Lincoln being on currency twice, I hadn't realized that. That is a rip-off, even if they were amazing presidents. Down with the unfairness! :lol:
Slap Happy Lunatics
12-06-2004, 05:29
So you got to see downtown in all it's glory. It is significantly different now. They did a beautiful job. I'll try to dig out a pic of it.
BBL on that.

SHL Yep, was there before 9-11 (actually haven't been there since), we went up to the top of the WTC and did the whole nine yards; I don't have pictures from that trip and I'm very sorry not to. I'm not a picture kind of person.

As for Washington and Lincoln being on currency twice, I hadn't realized that. That is a rip-off, even if they were amazing presidents. Down with the unfairness! :lol:

Wiggle room - no more dupes!

For the moment here is the church's site. I'll have to look further. I'd have telegramed you but I am not sure how to get that function to work.

http://www.trinitywallstreet.org/photo/index.shtml

SHL
Squi
12-06-2004, 05:52
I'm in favor of Reagan being on the new $5.00 coin, if only they can convince americans to use the $1.00 coin.
Sliders
12-06-2004, 05:53
He should replace Jacson on the $20, and Jackson could have the half-dollar.

I've heard that suggested, since some people don't like Jackson due to the Native American issues he had.
heh...I think he should be left there forever as punishment
He was totally against the national bank, and now look where he is, on the front of the 2nd most used bill (after the 1 of course)
Avia
12-06-2004, 05:55
you forgot that jefferson is on the two dollar bill.

and i'm serious, there are two dollar bills. the last time i saw one was when i was really little, though.

so how about that? discontinue the two dollar bill (if it hasn't been already?) and put him on there!

we can give jefferson something a bit more prestigious
Squi
12-06-2004, 06:03
you forgot that jefferson is on the two dollar bill.

and i'm serious, there are two dollar bills. the last time i saw one was when i was really little, though.

so how about that? discontinue the two dollar bill (if it hasn't been already?) and put him on there!

we can give jefferson something a bit more prestigiousSure, let's kick Chase off the $10,000.00 and put Jefferson there.
Slap Happy Lunatics
12-06-2004, 06:04
you forgot that jefferson is on the two dollar bill.

and i'm serious, there are two dollar bills. the last time i saw one was when i was really little, though.

so how about that? discontinue the two dollar bill (if it hasn't been already?) and put him on there!

we can give jefferson something a bit more prestigious

I didn't forget Mr. Jefferson. He was on the list along with the Monticello nickle. But yes, the 1976 commeorative $2.00 bill is a rarity since people tend to hold onto them.

SHL
Unfree People
12-06-2004, 06:06
I've come across several $2 bills, but I put 'em all back into circulation. I'm not all about coin, or in this case dollar, collecting.

A two dollar bill to me is just that... two dollars.
Soviet Haaregrad
12-06-2004, 06:12
I actually support Reagan on a $500. People will see him, because if you go to a grocery store only twice a month, you spend far more than $500 easily. Then again, I wouldn't mind Hamilton going. He was a bad politician who got killed when some dude killed him in a duel.

My mom spends like $500CDN($350USD?) a week on groceries. :oops:
The Edwardian Empire
12-06-2004, 06:27
the problem with you people saying that you spend $500 per week on groceries (i'm not debating the figure itself, it seems accurate enough to me) is that you don't pay with $500 bills. a combination of smaller bills, or a check or a credit/debit card are used about 2802867% (now THERE'S a debatable figure) more often. i exaggerate simply because i've never seen a $500 bill in my entire life. ever. and i even went to the bureau of printing and engraving (might have seen one there, but it sure didn't last an impression) (side note: this tour is NOT worth the line if you ever plan a trip to d.c. and are wondering where to go). leave him there, for all i care. slash a zero off the value and you'll find a good bill to put reagan on. it's almost universally accepted that grant was NOT an especially good president. his success as a general isn't very spectacular either. it was his subordinate generals who were the true heroes of the civil war (not to mention all the boys that died blah blah but this isn't about them). good ol' alexander hamilton (and it IS the secretary of the treasury, not the southern-rebuilding person that no one's heard of) can stay on the ten, but replacing grant on the $50 is a good end for mr reagan.

$.02
12-06-2004, 06:33
Dunno. Maybe we should kick Hamilton off the $10. Let's compare them:

Hamilton
*Helped rebuild South
*Restructured country after Civil War

Reagan
*Helped break up Soviet Union
*Nuclear arms reduction

Just thought I'd point out that nuclear arms reduction aint so impressive.
He still kept enough to deinhabit the earth many times over.
MKULTRA
12-06-2004, 21:21
Put Reagans face on Monopoly Money since corporate monopolies were the only people in the world who benefitted from his legacy
Purly Euclid
12-06-2004, 21:24
Put Reagans face on Monopoly Money since corporate monopolies were the only people in the world who benefitted from his legacy
I'm sure many did, like AT&T.
Zealer
12-06-2004, 21:29
Put Reagans face on Monopoly Money since corporate monopolies were the only people in the world who benefitted from his legacy

Hehe, that would be fitting
Lunatic Goofballs
12-06-2004, 21:30
Maybe George W. Bush's face will one day adorn money. Personally, I think the appropriate place for him is on counterfeit money. :wink:
MKULTRA
12-06-2004, 21:30
Maybe George W. Bush's face will one day adorn money. Personally, I think the appropriate place for him is on counterfeit money. :wink: :lol:
Enodscopia
12-06-2004, 21:50
I think we should put Reagan on the $1, $5, $10, $20, $50, and the $100.
Jorgalonia
12-06-2004, 22:14
There are 4 years in which the $2 bill was printed, according to wheresgeorge.com - 1963, 1976, 1995, and 2003. Just ask for 2's at the post office, they have plenty. They are more common then you think.
DrSloth
12-06-2004, 22:21
He was a great, great man. I say, we make a 25$ Bill and put him on it. Of course, if Kerry is elected, that might not happen, since he and a lot of his Liberal buddies refer to the Eighties as "a decade of greed."
DrSloth
12-06-2004, 22:25
Maybe George W. Bush's face will one day adorn money. Personally, I think the appropriate place for him is on counterfeit money. :wink:

You know, Bush is working his @$$ off with this war, and coming out of it won't help. Proof? We weren't at war in the nineties, but then they still attacked us on 9/11. He should be on REAL money.
DrSloth
12-06-2004, 22:25
Maybe George W. Bush's face will one day adorn money. Personally, I think the appropriate place for him is on counterfeit money. :wink:

You know, Bush is working his @$$ off with this war, and coming out of it won't help. Proof? We weren't at war in the nineties, but then they still attacked us on 9/11. He should be on REAL money.
Sye
12-06-2004, 22:44
Dunno. Maybe we should kick Hamilton off the $10. Let's compare them:

Hamilton
*Helped rebuild South
*Restructured country after Civil War

Reagan
*Helped break up Soviet Union
*Nuclear arms reduction

Wow, Hamilton's ghost was great!
How about getting rid of the first of the crappy Presidents, Jackson!
Sportscenter
12-06-2004, 22:48
Maybe George W. Bush's face will one day adorn money. Personally, I think the appropriate place for him is on counterfeit money. :wink:

You know, Bush is working his @$$ off with this war, and coming out of it won't help. Proof? We weren't at war in the nineties, but then they still attacked us on 9/11. He should be on REAL money.

Yeah, and remind us all, who attacked us again? was it the Iraqis..i dont think so! and maybe bush should take a peek at how his own country it doing every once and a while, maybe no ones told him yet that he has a multi-trillion-dollar debt to take care of
Sportscenter
12-06-2004, 22:52
also..Reagan belongs on a big bill like a 500 or something that way we who dont really want to see his face wont have to and those rich companies and individuals he helped out so much can admire him all day long as they swim in baths of money
Bodies Without Organs
12-06-2004, 22:52
Hmm.

"Ronald" = 6 letters.
"Wilson" = 6 letters.
"Reagan" = 6 letters.

How does the $666 bill sound?
CSW
12-06-2004, 22:56
The religious right won't go for that one BW/OO...How about putting him on the 6 dollar bill and a 66 cent coin?
Kutuzov
12-06-2004, 23:26
Why the hell is Grant even on money? At least Jackson was popular.
CSW
12-06-2004, 23:30
Oh, because he ended one of the worst wars in our country's history.
Bodies Without Organs
12-06-2004, 23:37
How about putting him on the 6 dollar bill and a 66 cent coin?

How about a $6.66 bill - is there anything which stipulates bills need to be in integers of dollars?
NewXmen
12-06-2004, 23:48
I'm in favor of Reagan being on the new $5.00 coin, if only they can convince americans to use the $1.00 coin.

Pretty good idea.
Kutuzov
12-06-2004, 23:53
Oh, because he ended one of the worst wars in our country's history.

Right, single-handedly.

And we put Eisenhower on the fifty cent piece? That's crap.
CSW
12-06-2004, 23:54
Oh, because he ended one of the worst wars in our country's history.

Right, single-handedly.

And we put Eisenhower on the fifty cent piece? That's crap.

...yeah, he did. We would have most likely lost that war if not for Grant. You can't say the same with Reagan.
Druthulhu
13-06-2004, 00:36
Here's an idea of what BILL to put Reagan on:

the National Debt.
MKULTRA
13-06-2004, 00:38
Here's an idea of what BILL to put Reagan on:

the National Debt.LOL
Benjamini
13-06-2004, 01:01
Here's an idea of what BILL to put Reagan on:

the National Debt.LOL


BING! BING! BING!

we got a winner!
Purly Euclid
13-06-2004, 04:11
Hmm.

"Ronald" = 6 letters.
"Wilson" = 6 letters.
"Reagan" = 6 letters.

How does the $666 bill sound?
Only liberals try to associate Republicans with 666. It's getting rather annoying, and sorta old.
Jorgalonia
13-06-2004, 04:12
Hmmm... maybe we can sell Reagans body to decrease the national debt.
The Black Forrest
13-06-2004, 04:31
Before you toss Washington or Lincoln, can anybody explain why they are on coinage and the bills?

The "logical" replacement would be Grant. An ineffective President with an outragously corrupt administration. But wait he was a Republican so that will not happen.

Reagan has an Aircraft carrior that just finishish trials.

Didn't he get an airport as well?

Anyboy know that the George Herbet Walker Bush is scheduled to be built? Somebody told me the laid the keel....
Purly Euclid
13-06-2004, 04:33
Before you toss Washington or Lincoln, can anybody explain why they are on coinage and the bills?

The "logical" replacement would be Grant. An ineffective President with an outragously corrupt administration. But wait he was a Republican so that will not happen.

Reagan has an Aircraft carrior that just finishish trials.

Didn't he get an airport as well?

Anyboy know that the George Herbet Walker Bush is scheduled to be built? Somebody told me the laid the keel....
Even though Grant was a Republican, he was a disgrace to the party. He did nothing.
Druthulhu
13-06-2004, 04:37
Hmm.

"Ronald" = 6 letters.
"Wilson" = 6 letters.
"Reagan" = 6 letters.

How does the $666 bill sound?
Only liberals try to associate Republicans with 666. It's getting rather annoying, and sorta old.

Only? Why on earth would CONSRVATIVES try to associate Republicans with 666?

You obviously were not exposed, as I was, to all of the conservative conspiracy theorists who were talking about how the Clintons' health care plan was going to put the mark of the beast on everybody, and how FEMA was going to be used to herd off all resistors...
Calembel
13-06-2004, 04:50
I like the idea of putting Teddy Roosevelt on something.

Maybe the mint will do a presidential quarters thing after they're done with the 50 States thing.
Purly Euclid
13-06-2004, 05:01
Hmm.

"Ronald" = 6 letters.
"Wilson" = 6 letters.
"Reagan" = 6 letters.

How does the $666 bill sound?
Only liberals try to associate Republicans with 666. It's getting rather annoying, and sorta old.

Only? Why on earth would CONSRVATIVES try to associate Republicans with 666?

You obviously were not exposed, as I was, to all of the conservative conspiracy theorists who were talking about how the Clintons' health care plan was going to put the mark of the beast on everybody, and how FEMA was going to be used to herd off all resistors...
I was too young for that, but even I agree it's redicolous. However, I would get worried if microchips were ordered implanted into everyone.
Unfree People
13-06-2004, 05:38
Hmm, I think we're on an overload of special quarters as it is.

And I'd love for Americans to use $1 coins, but we tried, and people were stupid and horded them instead of spending them properly.

I don't have any because I never hoarded them :x
My Very Own
13-06-2004, 05:47
in order to keep up with inflation (and the devaluation of the US dollar) which is now worth 1/20th of what the dollar was worth when the Federal Reserve Bank (a private corporation) commandeered the US banking industry and subsumed it under their auspices, congress should authorize notes of at least 20 times the highest denomination currently available to the US CITIZEN.

Start printing
$500 with president teddy roosevelt
$1000 with general patton or president hoover, or president wilson (let them fight it out in congress)
$5000 with general macaurthur, president truman, or president fdr (let them fight it out in congress)
$10,000 with president eisenhower
$50,000 with president jfk
$100,000 with president reagan

and when inflation gets worse, in 50 years add:
$500,000 with president schwartzenegger
$1,000,000 with president hillary rodham (clinton).
Squornshelous
13-06-2004, 05:49
I think Reagan gets the $50. What the hell did Grant do anyway?
MKULTRA
13-06-2004, 09:31
I think Reagan gets the $50. What the hell did Grant do anyway?I think neo cons need a new idol--the Reagan myth has been punctured
Slap Happy Lunatics
13-06-2004, 20:24
SNIPPERED

You obviously were not exposed, as I was, to all of the conservative conspiracy theorists who were talking about how the Clintons' health care plan was going to put the mark of the beast on everybody, and how FEMA was going to be used to herd off all resistors...

FEMA is going to herd off electrical parts? EGADS!

SHL
Slap Happy Lunatics
13-06-2004, 20:41
Hmm, I think we're on an overload of special quarters as it is.

And I'd love for Americans to use $1 coins, but we tried, and people were stupid and horded them instead of spending them properly.

I don't have any because I never hoarded them :x

The Sacagawea dollar’s gotten a bad start because so many people hated the Susan B. Anthony dollars. While it is slightly larger than the quarter in diameter and thickness it should have been more so. IMO it is still not distinct enough. That was the problem with the SBA, it was too close to the quarter and a lot of people got burned by it.

The US Mint has not done a whole lot of promotion for it either. Perhaps if they cut back on the availability of the paper dollar or cut it out entirely then it would get better play.

SHL
TheMightyMongDynasty
13-06-2004, 20:55
Personaly I think Reagan should be put on the $10 along with information on how he failed completely to deal with the AIDS criss (or even that it existed for 5 years), funded Saddam Hussein thus causing thousands of deaths under his rule and Gulf Wars 1&2, funded Osama Bin Laden thus helped cause the 11th of September atrocities and funded numerous dictatorships and militia apart from Saddam's including the Contras that have killed thousands. Also the fact he initiated the "War on Drugs", the most inept and stupid war that I have ever heard of (Except perhaps the war on terror) which has left thousands of otherwise innocent substance abusers rotting in jail where many remain this day, his refusal to see drug addiction as a medical problem rather than a crime and his homophobic viewpoints (that last one strikes a personal nerve).
Oh and the fact he planned to use Britain (where I live) as a nucleur decoy for the Soviets to nuke before America.
And I don't think that all the stuff I have on Nixon would fit on one of those huge novelty checks let alone a dollar bill...
Bodies Without Organs
13-06-2004, 21:07
The US Mint has not done a whole lot of promotion for it either. Perhaps if they cut back on the availability of the paper dollar or cut it out entirely then it would get better play.

Aren't you ignoring the psychological aspect of it: which feels like more money - a pocketful of change or a wad of notes?
Sliders
13-06-2004, 21:42
The US Mint has not done a whole lot of promotion for it either. Perhaps if they cut back on the availability of the paper dollar or cut it out entirely then it would get better play.

Aren't you ignoring the psychological aspect of it: which feels like more money - a pocketful of change or a wad of notes? I think we should make coins with holes in them...so they can be kept on a string. And I do think coins feel more like money. I guess if it's a wad of paper vs. a pocketful of change (pulling my pants down) then the wad of bills wins. But a coin vs. a bill, definitely the coin. And a string of coins vs. a wad of bills, again the coins
Unfree People
13-06-2004, 21:51
Aren't you ignoring the psychological aspect of it: which feels like more money - a pocketful of change or a wad of notes? Canada does just fine with coins... plus, you can jingle coins around in your pocket and feel really cool 8)
TheMightyMongDynasty
13-06-2004, 21:54
I think we should make coins with holes in them...so they can be kept on a string.

I think that there were some coins my dad had in his big coins from around the world jar that had holes in them, I think that they may have been replaced by the euro now though. Hey I got an idea to please both sides of this argumen! What about if we make a coin with a hole in it with reagans face on it? That way the conservatives who want to ignore the horrible truth of his precidency can have their coins with Reagan on it and the liberals who don't think that him getting rid of SOME (not all) nukes and ending the Cold War in a way that was going to happen anyway and was mostly actualy a result of a more-than-averagely liberal leader coming into power in Russia (see! liberals DID beat the soviets) can laugh because Reagan's face has a big hole in it.
Slap Happy Lunatics
13-06-2004, 21:57
The US Mint has not done a whole lot of promotion for it either. Perhaps if they cut back on the availability of the paper dollar or cut it out entirely then it would get better play.

Aren't you ignoring the psychological aspect of it: which feels like more money - a pocketful of change or a wad of notes?

That could be a factor. But I hate having a wad of $1's anyway. I seem to recall that the Euro is just a coin and a five Euro coin is common. I forget if there was a fiver paper money. In any event, I didn't mind the change. One adapts.

SHL
MKULTRA
15-06-2004, 06:02
they should put Reagans face on condoms
Gigatron
15-06-2004, 06:08
Leave the Euro alone. I do not particularely like the currency, but I would hate it if it had one of your asshole Presidents on it showing his ugly face to me everytime I pay for something :evil:
Slap Happy Lunatics
17-06-2004, 03:40
Leave the Euro alone. I do not particularely like the currency, but I would hate it if it had one of your asshole Presidents on it showing his ugly face to me everytime I pay for something :evil:

Thanks. It's good to know I got that option right.

SHL