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I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?

Those sick bastards!

Personally, I like Phoenix Sheriff Arpaio's approach a lot better. But then again, I am not an inmate.

Jail time shouldn't be simply a prolonged stay at a barewalls hotel. Having said that, some proportionality needs to be worked into the system...and we do have a few deserted islands out there that could be turned into a reprise of Escape from New York.

Think about this for a minute... unless this prison is for serial killers and cannibals like Hannibal Lecotr... that kind of setting would drive a normal criminal mad!

I see this as the direct opposite way to go. In fact, I favor jails to be a bit closer to the descriptions of Alexis du Tocqueville. That really did work, though there were too frequent prison riots. The only thing I guess I don't like about that old system is the anti-talking regulations, but other than that, they worked very good.

I disagree. Some homeless people and such may commit crimes so they could be better off. Also what about the cost? I think it would be awaful to do that. Keep them as they are!

Those sick bastards!which ones?

Personally, I like Phoenix Sheriff Arpaio's approach a lot better. But then again, I am not an inmate.Green bologna and pink underwear? :wink:

Personally, I like Phoenix Sheriff Arpaio's approach a lot better. But then again, I am not an inmate.

Jail time shouldn't be simply a prolonged stay at a barewalls hotel. Having said that, some proportionality needs to be worked into the system...and we do have a few deserted islands out there that could be turned into a reprise of Escape from New York.true like a jail with a mediterranean setting could reform people too with access to the beach

Think about this for a minute... unless this prison is for serial killers and cannibals like Hannibal Lecotr... that kind of setting would drive a normal criminal mad!well maybe they should throw in access to the internet too? that can occupy prisoners time for hours

I see this as the direct opposite way to go. In fact, I favor jails to be a bit closer to the descriptions of Alexis du Tocqueville. That really did work, though there were too frequent prison riots. The only thing I guess I don't like about that old system is the anti-talking regulations, but other than that, they worked very good.what method was that?

Give them free, unlimited AOL 56k, and only let them access image-heavy and flash-based websites

I disagree. Some homeless people and such may commit crimes so they could be better off. Also what about the cost? I think it would be awaful to do that. Keep them as they are!so everyone is supposed to try to improve their station in life but not the homeless? thats kinda a double standard dont u think? also costs are already high you might as well get more bang for your buck

Think about this for a minute... unless this prison is for serial killers and cannibals like Hannibal Lecotr... that kind of setting would drive a normal criminal mad!well maybe they should throw in access to the internet too? that can occupy prisoners time for hours
The question is what they'll look at. Even if it's non violent or pornographic, they can still look at stuff that's too mindless. They'd be best off if they had time to think about their crimes, rather than go on the internet, the beach, watch TV, or even workout. If anything, they should either be working, or reading from a prison library.

I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?

I dissagree. That kind of atmosphere sets sexual mood, if you know what I mean. :wink:

Don't drop the soap :D

Give them free, unlimited AOL 56k, and only let them access image-heavy and flash-based websitesthat could work--we need more people who can think out of the box to run the system

Give them free, unlimited AOL 56k, and only let them access image-heavy and flash-based websites

Someone would die for that.

I have always thought there was something to be said for lengthy solitary confinement. A nice round, not square, room with no windows and nothing but a bed and a toilet. The prisoner could have reading material, I suppose, but nothing else. The lights inside the room would be automatically turned on in the morning and off in the evening. Meals would be delivered three times daily. The prisoner would have nothing but time to think about his crime and how much it sucks to be in prison. Sure it would be harsh, but the individual shouldn't have committed the crime in the first place. Prison terms could be shorted to deal with the harshness of the facilities, but aside from that no other concessions should be given to the prisoners. Forced contractual labor to companies willing to pay could be another option. No office jobs, just labor related duties. If the prison is a place that is feared, then the no one will want to go there. And if no one wants to go there, then they will think twice before they commit a crime.

Think about this for a minute... unless this prison is for serial killers and cannibals like Hannibal Lecotr... that kind of setting would drive a normal criminal mad!well maybe they should throw in access to the internet too? that can occupy prisoners time for hours
The question is what they'll look at. Even if it's non violent or pornographic, they can still look at stuff that's too mindless. They'd be best off if they had time to think about their crimes, rather than go on the internet, the beach, watch TV, or even workout. If anything, they should either be working, or reading from a prison library.its better to make them forget all about their crimes-I mean theyre in jail isnt that reminder enuf? they need to think happy thoughts

Think about this for a minute... unless this prison is for serial killers and cannibals like Hannibal Lecotr... that kind of setting would drive a normal criminal mad!well maybe they should throw in access to the internet too? that can occupy prisoners time for hours
The question is what they'll look at. Even if it's non violent or pornographic, they can still look at stuff that's too mindless. They'd be best off if they had time to think about their crimes, rather than go on the internet, the beach, watch TV, or even workout. If anything, they should either be working, or reading from a prison library.its better to make them forget all about their crimes-I mean theyre in jail isnt that reminder enuf? they need to think happy thoughts

Think about this for a minute... unless this prison is for serial killers and cannibals like Hannibal Lecotr... that kind of setting would drive a normal criminal mad!well maybe they should throw in access to the internet too? that can occupy prisoners time for hours
The question is what they'll look at. Even if it's non violent or pornographic, they can still look at stuff that's too mindless. They'd be best off if they had time to think about their crimes, rather than go on the internet, the beach, watch TV, or even workout. If anything, they should either be working, or reading from a prison library.its better to make them forget all about their crimes-I mean theyre in jail isnt that reminder enuf? they need to think happy thoughts
They need to be reformed, not distracted. The best way to help them is through either giving them acsess to reading material, working at the prison, or taking advantage of their religious services. I also think that a bit of forced labor among inmates could help. Too bad they got rid of the chain gang long ago.
I guess, however, that lifers and those on death row should get all the comforts of home. In any case, prisons should never become like the Chateaux d'If.

I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?

I dissagree. That kind of atmosphere sets sexual mood, if you know what I mean. :wink:

Don't drop the soap :Dthat aspect will always be there but at least in this new setting it wont be so traumatic for the victim

I have always thought there was something to be said for lengthy solitary confinement. A nice round, not square, room with no windows and nothing but a bed and a toilet. The prisoner could have reading material, I suppose, but nothing else. The lights inside the room would be automatically turned on in the morning and off in the evening. Meals would be delivered three times daily. The prisoner would have nothing but time to think about his crime and how much it sucks to be in prison. Sure it would be harsh, but the individual shouldn't have committed the crime in the first place. Prison terms could be shorted to deal with the harshness of the facilities, but aside from that no other concessions should be given to the prisoners. Forced contractual labor to companies willing to pay could be another option. No office jobs, just labor related duties. If the prison is a place that is feared, then the no one will want to go there. And if no one wants to go there, then they will think twice before they commit a crime.how are people supposed to acheive exstasy in a setting like that?

I have always thought there was something to be said for lengthy solitary confinement. A nice round, not square, room with no windows and nothing but a bed and a toilet. The prisoner could have reading material, I suppose, but nothing else. The lights inside the room would be automatically turned on in the morning and off in the evening. Meals would be delivered three times daily. The prisoner would have nothing but time to think about his crime and how much it sucks to be in prison. Sure it would be harsh, but the individual shouldn't have committed the crime in the first place. Prison terms could be shorted to deal with the harshness of the facilities, but aside from that no other concessions should be given to the prisoners. Forced contractual labor to companies willing to pay could be another option. No office jobs, just labor related duties. If the prison is a place that is feared, then the no one will want to go there. And if no one wants to go there, then they will think twice before they commit a crime.how are people supposed to acheive exstasy in a setting like that?

They aren't.

Think about this for a minute... unless this prison is for serial killers and cannibals like Hannibal Lecotr... that kind of setting would drive a normal criminal mad!well maybe they should throw in access to the internet too? that can occupy prisoners time for hours
The question is what they'll look at. Even if it's non violent or pornographic, they can still look at stuff that's too mindless. They'd be best off if they had time to think about their crimes, rather than go on the internet, the beach, watch TV, or even workout. If anything, they should either be working, or reading from a prison library.its better to make them forget all about their crimes-I mean theyre in jail isnt that reminder enuf? they need to think happy thoughts
They need to be reformed, not distracted. The best way to help them is through either giving them acsess to reading material, working at the prison, or taking advantage of their religious services. I also think that a bit of forced labor among inmates could help. Too bad they got rid of the chain gang long ago.
I guess, however, that lifers and those on death row should get all the comforts of home. In any case, prisons should never become like the Chateaux d'If.why not? its reverse physcology--if prisoners are treated bad theyd act bad

Personally, I like Phoenix Sheriff Arpaio's approach a lot better. But then again, I am not an inmate.Green bologna and pink underwear? :wink:YES! Prison isn't supposed to be pleasant! And if you find green bologna and/or pink undies pleasant, then prison certainly isn't where you belong!

I have always thought there was something to be said for lengthy solitary confinement. A nice round, not square, room with no windows and nothing but a bed and a toilet. The prisoner could have reading material, I suppose, but nothing else. The lights inside the room would be automatically turned on in the morning and off in the evening. Meals would be delivered three times daily. The prisoner would have nothing but time to think about his crime and how much it sucks to be in prison. Sure it would be harsh, but the individual shouldn't have committed the crime in the first place. Prison terms could be shorted to deal with the harshness of the facilities, but aside from that no other concessions should be given to the prisoners. Forced contractual labor to companies willing to pay could be another option. No office jobs, just labor related duties. If the prison is a place that is feared, then the no one will want to go there. And if no one wants to go there, then they will think twice before they commit a crime.how are people supposed to acheive exstasy in a setting like that?

They aren't.I dont understand

Personally, I like Phoenix Sheriff Arpaio's approach a lot better. But then again, I am not an inmate.

Jail time shouldn't be simply a prolonged stay at a barewalls hotel. Having said that, some proportionality needs to be worked into the system...and we do have a few deserted islands out there that could be turned into a reprise of Escape from New York.true like a jail with a mediterranean setting could reform people too with access to the beachI was thinking more of a Castaway-like experience, with the added bonus that the truly violent criminals can stay all together in one place where they can rot.

Personally, I like Phoenix Sheriff Arpaio's approach a lot better. But then again, I am not an inmate.Green bologna and pink underwear? :wink:YES! Prison isn't supposed to be pleasant! And if you find green bologna and/or pink undies pleasant, then prison certainly isn't where you belong!I think that system only would work for people into S&M tho

Personally, I like Phoenix Sheriff Arpaio's approach a lot better. But then again, I am not an inmate.

Jail time shouldn't be simply a prolonged stay at a barewalls hotel. Having said that, some proportionality needs to be worked into the system...and we do have a few deserted islands out there that could be turned into a reprise of Escape from New York.true like a jail with a mediterranean setting could reform people too with access to the beachI was thinking more of a Castaway-like experience, with the added bonus that the truly violent criminals can stay all together in one place where they can rot.like Devils Island?

Think about this for a minute... unless this prison is for serial killers and cannibals like Hannibal Lecotr... that kind of setting would drive a normal criminal mad!well maybe they should throw in access to the internet too? that can occupy prisoners time for hours
The question is what they'll look at. Even if it's non violent or pornographic, they can still look at stuff that's too mindless. They'd be best off if they had time to think about their crimes, rather than go on the internet, the beach, watch TV, or even workout. If anything, they should either be working, or reading from a prison library.its better to make them forget all about their crimes-I mean theyre in jail isnt that reminder enuf? they need to think happy thoughts
They need to be reformed, not distracted. The best way to help them is through either giving them acsess to reading material, working at the prison, or taking advantage of their religious services. I also think that a bit of forced labor among inmates could help. Too bad they got rid of the chain gang long ago.
I guess, however, that lifers and those on death row should get all the comforts of home. In any case, prisons should never become like the Chateaux d'If.why not? its reverse physcology--if prisoners are treated bad theyd act bad
Really? So an inmate needs distractions in prison. Well, we can rest assure that when they leave, they'll feel no shame in being a nussaince to society once more.
Besides, studies have shown that prisoners are best reformed when treated strictly. I heard on America's Most Wanted a few years back about a judge in Pittsburgh, I think. He gave sentences that were unconventional, but at the same time, old fashioned. For example, there was this one woman who was the getaway driver for a murderer. Her sentence was to stand on a street all day, with a sign from her neck stating her crimes. Another man vandalized a wall with graffitti. His sentence was to whitewash that wall himself. I want to apply this same thinking to prisons. Don't make them sit and do nothing, or be distracted. Make them pay, and it'll make them reform. After all, this judge got only one of his convicts back in the first year he tried it.

I have always thought there was something to be said for lengthy solitary confinement. A nice round, not square, room with no windows and nothing but a bed and a toilet. The prisoner could have reading material, I suppose, but nothing else. The lights inside the room would be automatically turned on in the morning and off in the evening. Meals would be delivered three times daily. The prisoner would have nothing but time to think about his crime and how much it sucks to be in prison. Sure it would be harsh, but the individual shouldn't have committed the crime in the first place. Prison terms could be shorted to deal with the harshness of the facilities, but aside from that no other concessions should be given to the prisoners. Forced contractual labor to companies willing to pay could be another option. No office jobs, just labor related duties. If the prison is a place that is feared, then the no one will want to go there. And if no one wants to go there, then they will think twice before they commit a crime.how are people supposed to acheive exstasy in a setting like that?

They aren't.I dont understand

It is simple. The criminal is left with nothing to do, but to think about what he/she/it did. If prison is a happy place then no one will be afraid of the punishment they get for committing their crimes. Getting sent to the corner never worked for me when I was in elementary school. It took the principal beating my soon-to-be very sore bottom to get me to act right, but then again I was a bad kid in elementary school. I am a model citizen now though. I am active in my church and my community, and I have never committed a crime. Part of the never committing a crime came from our local prison facility, Parchman. That place is hell. If you go in there and you can't defend yourself, you are not going to last long. Fear keeps people away from crime. It is what keeps Parchman's prison population relatively low. There are those who will commit crimes reguardless, and that is why we have dark hellholes like Parchman to send them to.

I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?

I dissagree. That kind of atmosphere sets sexual mood, if you know what I mean. :wink:

Don't drop the soap :Dthat aspect will always be there but at least in this new setting it wont be so traumatic for the victim

Being unwillfully boned up the arse will always be traumatic

Before my current job, I did a lot of contract work for the parole board with sex offenders and status offenders. After going into that world for a while, I came to the conclusion that jails that are little more than resorts do nothing. However, jails that are too hard will turn a nonviolent criminal into a violent parolee. There needs to be a happy medium. I like the idea of education in the prison system. Give people something to work towards and you get better results on the outside. I also like the idea of prison industries. Teaching skills is akin to education, something to work with when the person is on the outside. But after that, the mere fact that a convict is in prison is not enough for them to be reminded of their crime or their punishment. Prison should not be a reward.

I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?

I dissagree. That kind of atmosphere sets sexual mood, if you know what I mean. :wink:

Don't drop the soap :Dthat aspect will always be there but at least in this new setting it wont be so traumatic for the victim

Being unwillfully boned up the arse will always be traumaticbut not in a setting that could loosen their sphincters

I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?

I dissagree. That kind of atmosphere sets sexual mood, if you know what I mean. :wink:

Don't drop the soap :Dthat aspect will always be there but at least in this new setting it wont be so traumatic for the victim

Being unwillfully boned up the arse will always be traumaticbut not in a setting that could loosen their sphincters

Ahhh, yet another use for soothing sented candles. :lol:

Think about this for a minute... unless this prison is for serial killers and cannibals like Hannibal Lecotr... that kind of setting would drive a normal criminal mad!well maybe they should throw in access to the internet too? that can occupy prisoners time for hours
The question is what they'll look at. Even if it's non violent or pornographic, they can still look at stuff that's too mindless. They'd be best off if they had time to think about their crimes, rather than go on the internet, the beach, watch TV, or even workout. If anything, they should either be working, or reading from a prison library.its better to make them forget all about their crimes-I mean theyre in jail isnt that reminder enuf? they need to think happy thoughts
They need to be reformed, not distracted. The best way to help them is through either giving them acsess to reading material, working at the prison, or taking advantage of their religious services. I also think that a bit of forced labor among inmates could help. Too bad they got rid of the chain gang long ago.
I guess, however, that lifers and those on death row should get all the comforts of home. In any case, prisons should never become like the Chateaux d'If.why not? its reverse physcology--if prisoners are treated bad theyd act bad
Really? So an inmate needs distractions in prison. Well, we can rest assure that when they leave, they'll feel no shame in being a nussaince to society once more.
Besides, studies have shown that prisoners are best reformed when treated strictly. I heard on America's Most Wanted a few years back about a judge in Pittsburgh, I think. He gave sentences that were unconventional, but at the same time, old fashioned. For example, there was this one woman who was the getaway driver for a murderer. Her sentence was to stand on a street all day, with a sign from her neck stating her crimes. Another man vandalized a wall with graffitti. His sentence was to whitewash that wall himself. I want to apply this same thinking to prisons. Don't make them sit and do nothing, or be distracted. Make them pay, and it'll make them reform. After all, this judge got only one of his convicts back in the first year he tried it.that could be good if he could turn sentences into competitive sports like American Gladiators

I like the idea of giving drug and prostitute related offenders an education. It would at least attempt to get them off the streets.

Of course, this might just result in people offending to get a free education.

Jails just don't have enough funds.

Think about this for a minute... unless this prison is for serial killers and cannibals like Hannibal Lecotr... that kind of setting would drive a normal criminal mad!well maybe they should throw in access to the internet too? that can occupy prisoners time for hours
The question is what they'll look at. Even if it's non violent or pornographic, they can still look at stuff that's too mindless. They'd be best off if they had time to think about their crimes, rather than go on the internet, the beach, watch TV, or even workout. If anything, they should either be working, or reading from a prison library.its better to make them forget all about their crimes-I mean theyre in jail isnt that reminder enuf? they need to think happy thoughts
They need to be reformed, not distracted. The best way to help them is through either giving them acsess to reading material, working at the prison, or taking advantage of their religious services. I also think that a bit of forced labor among inmates could help. Too bad they got rid of the chain gang long ago.
I guess, however, that lifers and those on death row should get all the comforts of home. In any case, prisons should never become like the Chateaux d'If.why not? its reverse physcology--if prisoners are treated bad theyd act bad
Really? So an inmate needs distractions in prison. Well, we can rest assure that when they leave, they'll feel no shame in being a nussaince to society once more.
Besides, studies have shown that prisoners are best reformed when treated strictly. I heard on America's Most Wanted a few years back about a judge in Pittsburgh, I think. He gave sentences that were unconventional, but at the same time, old fashioned. For example, there was this one woman who was the getaway driver for a murderer. Her sentence was to stand on a street all day, with a sign from her neck stating her crimes. Another man vandalized a wall with graffitti. His sentence was to whitewash that wall himself. I want to apply this same thinking to prisons. Don't make them sit and do nothing, or be distracted. Make them pay, and it'll make them reform. After all, this judge got only one of his convicts back in the first year he tried it.that could be good if he could turn sentences into competitive sports like American Gladiators
No. The Roman prison system is a thing for history books and scholarly debate, and not practice.

I have always thought there was something to be said for lengthy solitary confinement. A nice round, not square, room with no windows and nothing but a bed and a toilet. The prisoner could have reading material, I suppose, but nothing else. The lights inside the room would be automatically turned on in the morning and off in the evening. Meals would be delivered three times daily. The prisoner would have nothing but time to think about his crime and how much it sucks to be in prison. Sure it would be harsh, but the individual shouldn't have committed the crime in the first place. Prison terms could be shorted to deal with the harshness of the facilities, but aside from that no other concessions should be given to the prisoners. Forced contractual labor to companies willing to pay could be another option. No office jobs, just labor related duties. If the prison is a place that is feared, then the no one will want to go there. And if no one wants to go there, then they will think twice before they commit a crime.how are people supposed to acheive exstasy in a setting like that?

They aren't.I dont understand

It is simple. The criminal is left with nothing to do, but to think about what he/she/it did. If prison is a happy place then no one will be afraid of the punishment they get for committing their crimes. Getting sent to the corner never worked for me when I was in elementary school. It took the principal beating my soon-to-be very sore bottom to get me to act right, but then again I was a bad kid in elementary school. I am a model citizen now though. I am active in my church and my community, and I have never committed a crime. Part of the never committing a crime came from our local prison facility, Parchman. That place is hell. If you go in there and you can't defend yourself, you are not going to last long. Fear keeps people away from crime. It is what keeps Parchman's prison population relatively low. There are those who will commit crimes reguardless, and that is why we have dark hellholes like Parchman to send them to.there should be a choice--people should say whether they want to be sent to the S&M prisons or to the prisons that help people achieve highter states of being

Jails just don't have enough funds.then legalise drugs to pay for jails

Jails just don't have enough funds.then legalise drugs to pay for jails

GOOD IDEA!!!

I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?

I dissagree. That kind of atmosphere sets sexual mood, if you know what I mean. :wink:

Don't drop the soap :Dthat aspect will always be there but at least in this new setting it wont be so traumatic for the victim

Being unwillfully boned up the arse will always be traumaticbut not in a setting that could loosen their sphincters

Ahhh, yet another use for soothing sented candles. :lol:what would that be?

I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?

I dissagree. That kind of atmosphere sets sexual mood, if you know what I mean. :wink:

Don't drop the soap :Dthat aspect will always be there but at least in this new setting it wont be so traumatic for the victim

Being unwillfully boned up the arse will always be traumaticbut not in a setting that could loosen their sphincters

Ahhh, yet another use for soothing sented candles. :lol:what would that be?

Loosening Sphincters :D

Before my current job, I did a lot of contract work for the parole board with sex offenders and status offenders. After going into that world for a while, I came to the conclusion that jails that are little more than resorts do nothing. However, jails that are too hard will turn a nonviolent criminal into a violent parolee. There needs to be a happy medium. I like the idea of education in the prison system. Give people something to work towards and you get better results on the outside. I also like the idea of prison industries. Teaching skills is akin to education, something to work with when the person is on the outside. But after that, the mere fact that a convict is in prison is not enough for them to be reminded of their crime or their punishment. Prison should not be a reward.boredom is a form of torture--it doesmt take much to make an inmate happy. All their lives these criminals were taught that they were bad and worthless. If we give them a better message theyll have hope and turn away from their rage

Before my current job, I did a lot of contract work for the parole board with sex offenders and status offenders. After going into that world for a while, I came to the conclusion that jails that are little more than resorts do nothing. However, jails that are too hard will turn a nonviolent criminal into a violent parolee. There needs to be a happy medium. I like the idea of education in the prison system. Give people something to work towards and you get better results on the outside. I also like the idea of prison industries. Teaching skills is akin to education, something to work with when the person is on the outside. But after that, the mere fact that a convict is in prison is not enough for them to be reminded of their crime or their punishment. Prison should not be a reward.boredom is a form of torture--it doesmt take much to make an inmate happy. All their lives these criminals were taught that they were bad and worthless. If we give them a better message theyll have hope and turn away from their rage

They tried isolating all the prisoners back in the 20's. The result was everyone going insane and attempting suicide.

The prison system and the penal system in general needs to be completely overhauled, at least in the U.S. The U.S. incarcerates a higher number of people per capita than any other nation on Earth. Land of the free indeed. And I don't even have to count "enemy combatants" in this.

People complain that prisons "cost too much." How much does it cost to keep a prisoner incarcerated for one year? Well, don't you think that the prisoners should be paying for that? Prison sentences should be contingent on prisoners effectively paying for themselves. If it costs $40,000 to keep a person in jail, then the inmate should work enough to pay for at least a sizeable portion of that. I imagine that the figures included in the $40,000 or so it takes to incarcerate a prisoner factor in things like the officers' salaries, and there's no reason prisoners should be stuck with that.

So the prisoners have to do jobs that offset these costs. It gives a simulation of real world experience that many of the inmates could be lacking, teaches responsibility and incentives, and saves some bucks. The system would be set up in such a way that earning this monetary credit would involve a fair amount of hard work (something longer than a standard work week, but not brutal...say, six days a week, 8-10 hours a day with short breaks.) Prisoners who exceed their monetary requirement are released early and given extra assistance in getting back on their feet (say, the prison system finds them a job and an apartment). Prisoners who don't exceed their requirement but meet it regularly get help upon release (at the scheduled time, of course,) but the prison system just gives them a good reference and makes some suggestions instead of finding them jobs and housing. Prisoners who fall short have their sentences lengthened; prisoners who aren't even trying get shipped off to a far worse place that I'll talk about later.

Rehabilitation and education would be worked into a prisoner's schedule, and sentences would be weighted to balance them. They wouldn't count against people, but they wouldn't count for the monetary requirements.

People who ignore these monetary requirements get sent to a place where they perform forced labor - long hours every day, 365 days a year, no visitors, only two meals a day, four to a cell, and no contact with the outside world. The only contact there would be is inspectors making sure everything was legit and there was no abuse. Of course, this arrangement would be temporary for everyone involved; there would be lengths of time served after which prisoners would be evaluated for re-entry into the regular prison system. Of course, they get no sentence credit for this time served, so if a prisoner on a 10-year sentence spends two years in regular prison, gets sent to the hellhole for one year, and goes back to regular prison, he/she/it would still have 8 years left.

This idea is mainly based on the notion that people sent to prisons don't understand responsibility, and this would teach them that. It would be a re-education process more than anything.

uh i hate to break it to ya people, but jails arent supposed to be places where you want to go...... wtf. :?

I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?Why don't you just give them whatever they want while your at it. THey are there to be punished, not coddeled.

Jails just don't have enough funds.then legalise drugs to pay for jails

GOOD IDEA!!!thanks

I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?

I dissagree. That kind of atmosphere sets sexual mood, if you know what I mean. :wink:

Don't drop the soap :Dthat aspect will always be there but at least in this new setting it wont be so traumatic for the victim

Being unwillfully boned up the arse will always be traumaticbut not in a setting that could loosen their sphincters

Ahhh, yet another use for soothing sented candles. :lol:what would that be?

Loosening Sphincters :Dbut they have aromotherapy oils in the air ducts--the candles would clash

uh i hate to break it to ya people, but jails arent supposed to be places where you want to go...... wtf. :?no but as long as their there we need to give them a feeling of accomplishment

I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?Why don't you just give them whatever they want while your at it. THey are there to be punished, not coddeled.coddling makes people act coddled--punishing makes people act bad

I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?

Oh, brilliant...absolutely brilliant.

News flash, MKULTRA...criminals are people who failed society, not people whom society failed. They deserve to be punished severely. Not kept in better conditions than they would be at home.

Jails just don't have enough funds.then legalise drugs to pay for jails
GOOD IDEA!!!
Nah, raise the fines for crimes! Tax the criminals and confiscate their stuff.

I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?

I heard on the radio about a magical land of pixies and pink elephants, where the grass is made of caramel, and the rabbits all crap Godiva truffles!

I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?

I heard on the radio about a magical land of pixies and pink elephants, where the grass is made of caramel, and the rabbits all crap Godiva truffles!

I still wouldn't eat the truffles. At least, not until all the normal ones were gone. :?

I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?

I dissagree. That kind of atmosphere sets sexual mood, if you know what I mean. :wink:

Don't drop the soap :Dthat aspect will always be there but at least in this new setting it wont be so traumatic for the victim

Being unwillfully boned up the arse will always be traumaticbut not in a setting that could loosen their sphincters

Ahhh, yet another use for soothing sented candles. :lol:what would that be?

Loosening Sphincters :Dbut they have aromotherapy oils in the air ducts--the candles would clash

Just think how loose your sphincter would be with both of them :D

Jails just don't have enough funds.then legalise drugs to pay for jails
GOOD IDEA!!!
Nah, raise the fines for crimes! Tax the criminals and confiscate their stuff.this would turn the Govt into being the criminal and gives the govt a financial motive to frame innocent people

I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?

Oh, brilliant...absolutely brilliant.

News flash, MKULTRA...criminals are people who failed society, not people whom society failed. They deserve to be punished severely. Not kept in better conditions than they would be at home.punishing people continues the cycle of crime--this is a failed strategy

I heard on the radio where theres this jail that gives their inmates aromatherapy oil in the air ducts with piped in classical music and cells painted with soothing colors and landscapes with a very good chef and they found out it reduced violence in the jails. I think this could be the way to go for every jail in america in order to prevent crimes. Does anyone else see the value in this?

I dissagree. That kind of atmosphere sets sexual mood, if you know what I mean. :wink:

Don't drop the soap :Dthat aspect will always be there but at least in this new setting it wont be so traumatic for the victim

Being unwillfully boned up the arse will always be traumaticbut not in a setting that could loosen their sphincters

Ahhh, yet another use for soothing sented candles. :lol:what would that be?

Loosening Sphincters :Dbut they have aromotherapy oils in the air ducts--the candles would clash

Just think how loose your sphincter would be with both of them :Dtrue-especially if they threw marijuana into the mix to make inmates even more placid