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I've been an on and off poster here for a while. You've probably all seen me around.

I've decided to leave the general forum permanently, due to the unbearable hatred that exists here. I see it coming from both the left and the right. The final straw for me was when someone implied that I like to kill babies and am a racist, simply because I've chosen to join the Navy.

Normally, I wouldn't make a farewell thread, because it might seem like I'm asking for sympathy, when I'm not. The reason I have created this thread is that I wish to leave you all with a final message of peace. Please stop the hatred. Life is too short to go around hating people for petty reasons; especially people you don't even know. All you do is hurt others, and ultimately hurt yourself, for you will lead a sad life if you are filled with hatred. It's stupid to hate people because of things like politics, religion, or race, and it's stupid to pass judgement on people you don't know. I can only hope that this message will change some of you.

For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up

I certainly haven't been around long enough to really know, but I have read quite a few posts from you and I judge you to be a good and decent person. However, in my short time here I have noticed some of the same things you have, and feel sorry for it.

Fare thee well. Good luck in the Navy (I applied to the Air Force Academy, but was turned down due to orthopedic problems in my right leg), and in all that you do.

Aye! It's a pity to see another good (i think) person leave General....

but hey, who can stop you?

As for me....I'll stay and try to continue making it through this wall of hate and hell

Aye! It's a pity to see another good (i think) person leave General....

but hey, who can stop you?

As for me....I'll stay and try to continue making it through this wall of hate and hell

*Joins hands with Lapse and begins to sing*

C'ya, I dont really come here often, mostly just when things get slow in the RP department.
But yeah, people generaly dislike my opinions...or ignore them.
But hey, its all good.

Maybe...just maybe, Ill eventually convince some small part of the form to lighten up slightly, and convince them that they dont have to be mini-Limbaughs for either party.

It's stupid to hate people because of things like politics, religion, or race.

It's stupid to kill people because of things like politics, religion, or race.

It's stupid to hate people because of things like politics, religion, or race.

It's stupid to kill people because of things like politics, religion, or race.

amen.

It's stupid to hate people because of things like politics, religion, or race.

It's stupid to kill people because of things like politics, religion, or race.Isn't an ideal worth dying for? :wink:

It's stupid to hate people because of things like politics, religion, or race.

It's stupid to kill people because of things like politics, religion, or race.Isn't an ideal worth dying for? :wink:
Isn't it something worth fighting for?
Isn't it something worth DYING for?

If you think the General Forum is bad, just take a step outside for a minute and look at the world. There's people out there who "hate" others because of their skin colour! Even their sexual preferences can cause discrimination.

Compared to the real world, the General Forum is civilized.

If you think the General Forum is bad, just take a step outside for a minute and look at the world. There's people out there who "hate" others because of their skin colour! Even their sexual preferences can cause discrimination.

Compared to the real world, the General Forum is civilized.
dude...I saw a fat lady eating Mc Donalds while smoking....

THAT'S JUST WRONG MAN!

If you think the General Forum is bad, just take a step outside for a minute and look at the world. There's people out there who "hate" others because of their skin colour! Even their sexual preferences can cause discrimination.

Compared to the real world, the General Forum is civilized.

thank you very much. i choked on my chicken salad sandwich right now from laughter.

If you think the General Forum is bad, just take a step outside for a minute and look at the world. There's people out there who "hate" others because of their skin colour! Even their sexual preferences can cause discrimination.

Compared to the real world, the General Forum is civilized.

thank you very much. i choked on my chicken salad sandwich right now from laughter.
MCDONALDS chicken salad?

*dies laughing*

If you think the General Forum is bad, just take a step outside for a minute and look at the world. There's people out there who "hate" others because of their skin colour! Even their sexual preferences can cause discrimination.

Compared to the real world, the General Forum is civilized.

no, thats a load of shit. its just magnified ten times here on the forums. :D

If you think the General Forum is bad, just take a step outside for a minute and look at the world. There's people out there who "hate" others because of their skin colour! Even their sexual preferences can cause discrimination.

Compared to the real world, the General Forum is civilized.
dude...I saw a fat lady eating Mc Donalds while smoking....

THAT'S JUST WRONG MAN!
Let's burn her on the holy cross! :roll:

If you think the General Forum is bad, just take a step outside for a minute and look at the world. There's people out there who "hate" others because of their skin colour! Even their sexual preferences can cause discrimination.

Compared to the real world, the General Forum is civilized.

thank you very much. i choked on my chicken salad sandwich right now from laughter.
MCDONALDS chicken salad?

*dies laughing*


what? no no no..... nothing about this is right at all!

The reason I have created this thread is that I wish to leave you all with a final message of peace.
*sniffle* *sniffle*
a final message of peace before I get on a boat, sail to the middle east and kill me some babies.

dont leave us....things will get better.....its just that there are alot of newbies posting, who are not used to the rules

things can only get better

If you think the General Forum is bad, just take a step outside for a minute and look at the world. There's people out there who "hate" others because of their skin colour! Even their sexual preferences can cause discrimination.

Compared to the real world, the General Forum is civilized.

no, thats a load of shit. its just magnified ten times here on the forums. :D
Right. So what you're saying is that a school full of kids saying, "Oh my gawd, this class is GAY, this pencil is GAY, this inanimate object is GAY" is better than the General Forum? At least people have decent debates here.

The reason I have created this thread is that I wish to leave you all with a final message of peace.
*sniffle* *sniffle*
a final message of peace before I get on a boat, sail to the middle east and kill me some babies.


ugh........

I've chosen to join the Navy.


Just remember, when you're loading those bombs tipped with Depleated Uranium, that you're not just killing babies today -- but your killing babies for over a billion years! Now that's how you get the shiney medals!

I've chosen to join the Navy.


Just remember, when you're loading those bombs tipped with Depleated Uranium, that you're not just killing babies today -- but your killing babies for over a billion years! Now that's how you get the shiney medals!

why havent you been deated yet, eh?

I've chosen to join the Navy.


Just remember, when you're loading those bombs tipped with Depleated Uranium, that you're not just killing babies today -- but your killing babies for over a billion years! Now that's how you get the shiney medals!

No offence, but comments such as that almost make me hate the fact that I lean towards the liberal side of things. Even if it is just sarcasm, it is in poor taste. I wanted to join the Air Force, got any comments for me about bombing innocent civilians or the Canadian military?

I've chosen to join the Navy.


Just remember, when you're loading those bombs tipped with Depleated Uranium, that you're not just killing babies today -- but your killing babies for over a billion years! Now that's how you get the shiney medals!

Medals are given out for "fighting for freedom" and such. Whether that's true or not is a whole different debate.

I wouldn't make a farewell thread, because it might seem like I'm asking for sympathy.
dont worry...it does not seem that way at all.

I wanted to join the Air Force.
why didnt you?

I wanted to join the Air Force.
why didnt you?

I passed all the qualification tests, except the physical one. I have some orthopedic (I was born with a clubbed foot, and it has lead to some minor oseto arthritis in my ankle and I damaged my knee playing football) and nerve damage in my right leg, which prevented me from getting into the Academy. The recruitment officer said with the extent of the damage (and it's effect on my ability to run long distances) I would most likely be rejected by all branches at this point.

No offence, but comments such as that almost make me hate the fact that I lean towards the liberal side of things.

why should I be offended by your self-loathing?

Besides that, what makes you think that isolationism is a tenet of liberal ideology?

No offence, but comments such as that almost make me hate the fact that I lean towards the liberal side of things.

why should I be offended by your self-loathing?

Besides that, what makes you think that isolationism is a tenet of liberal ideology?

Isolationism is not, but your post only seemed to indicate a hatred for the military and its actions, a viewpoint typically held and expressed by those of the left-hand side of things, rather than the right (which typical have a fondness for the military and its actions). I recognize the fact that I used a logical fallacy (in this case, hasty generalization), but I was mearly having/posting a mostly emotional response to your rather crass post.

I passed all the qualification tests, except the physical one. I have some orthopedic (I was born with a clubbed foot, and it has lead to some minor oseto arthritis in my ankle and I damaged my knee playing football) and nerve damage in my right leg, which prevented me from getting into the Academy. The recruitment officer said with the extent of the damage (and it's effect on my ability to run long distances) I would most likely be rejected by all branches at this point.

awww... come on little buddy, don't let your cloven-foot get you down -- you can feed the war machine in other ways! Have you ever considered building the bombs that kill babies? I know it's not as thrilling as killing the babies yourself, but atleast this way you can say you had a small part in spreading DU all over the place.

awww... come on little buddy, don't let your cloven-foot get you down -- you can feed the war machine in other ways! Have you ever considered building the bombs that kill babies? I know it's not as thrilling as killing the babies yourself, but atleast this way you can say you had a small part in spreading DU all over the place.

And where exactly are you getting your info on the hazards of depleted uranium? It is only used after it has decayed to the point where it is no longer emitting a harmful level of alpha particles, and no longer represents an adverse health risk to those around it. There is no way that it would be effecting life on a large scale now nor a billion years from now.

As for participating in the building of the factories, no thanks, I'm not that skilled a manual laborer (see my post about why I wasn't allowed into Colorado Springs for a good part of the reason for this). My current occupational hopes lean in the direction of post-secondary education or perhaps some field or museum work (I'm currently studying History).

Isolationism is not, but your post only seemed to indicate a hatred for the military and its actions, a viewpoint typically held and expressed by those of the left-hand side of things, rather than the right (which typical have a fondness for the military and its actions).

and there goes the clue train...

The military is supposed to defend the citizens of the United States... when it does anything else, it is an enemy of the citizens of the United States...

I'd just like to say, I'm glad you're willing to defend your country, and you will be missed.

and there goes the clue train...

The military is supposed to defend the citizens of the United States... when it does anything else, it is an enemy of the citizens of the United States...

I agree with you, however the military responds and carries out the orders of the President and his Joint Chiefs of Staff. You can't hold the military as a whole accountable for the piss-poor command decisions of the few, who have the power to control it. I may have reservations about the real reasons behind the current conflicts, but what's done is done, you can't change the past, so we just have to make the best of the current situation.

I'd just like to say, I'm glad you're willing to defend your country, and you will be missed.

I didn't realize he was an Isreali...

I'd just like to say, I'm glad you're willing to defend your country, and you will be missed.

I didn't realize he was an Isreali...

Now, now. We didn't veto the latest Security Counsel resolution condemning Israel. We just had them soften the language quite a bit, to the point we would feel comfortable abstaining from voting.

and there goes the clue train...

The military is supposed to defend the citizens of the United States... when it does anything else, it is an enemy of the citizens of the United States...

I agree with you, however the military responds and carries out the orders of the President and his Joint Chiefs of Staff. You can't hold the military as a whole accountable for the piss-poor command decisions of the few, who have the power to control it. I may have reservations about the real reasons behind the current conflicts, but what's done is done, you can't change the past, so we just have to make the best of the current situation.

First of all, the military code forces solders to disobey any unlawful orders (no matter where there from)

Second, anyone seeing that our military is the arm of Imperialism who still joins it is unAmerican...

First of all, the military code forces solders to disobey any unlawful orders (no matter where there from)

Second, anyone seeing that our military is the arm of Imperialism who still joins it is unAmerican...

At least I had to cajones to attmept to enlist, even if I don't always agree with the way we use our military might, I do have some pride for where I come from. If I had my way, I'd change a lot of things done by the US lately, but that doesn't mean I hate my country nor feel any less obligated to serve it in some capacity.

At least I had to cajones to attmept to enlist

yes, it certainly takes big brass ones to attempt joining the Air Force...
what a big big pair you have sir, I salute you balls!


Anywho -- back in reality: Logic would dictate that if you disagreed with the Imperial uses of the military, you would try and stop it if you loved you country -- not just join it and shrug your shoulders saying "oh, well"

At least I had to cajones to attmept

yes, it certainly takes big brass ones to attempt joining the Air Force...
what a big big pair you have sir, I salute you balls!


Anywho -- back in reality: Logic would dictate that if you disagreed with the Imperial uses of the military, you would try and stop it if you loved you country -- not just join it and shrug your shoulders saying "oh, well"

Perhaps I should elaborate a bit. I'm now 22 years old, when I attempted to join the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs (rejected due to medical problems) I was 17, Walker Bush wasn't even president yet and the current crop of geopolitical issues weren't around. At the time I could think of no better way to secure funding for college and do something for my country (it seemed like a good idea to kill two birds with one stone). I still support the military and its members (of which my family currently has 4, 2 of which are currently deployed and 2 of which are not), but I don't support the ideals nor persons currently issuing the orders to them (hence the dichatomy present in my earlier posts). As for doing something to change it, well as I'm not a wealthy lobbyist or political big-wig I'm to going to do what I can come November, only time will tell if I'll be able to effect any change though.

Hope that clears things up a bit.

P.S. Sorry for the rather acidic tone of my earlier rants, I'm so tired at the moment I didn't realize that I hadn't talked about the time that had passed between when I tried to enlist and now.

Perhaps I should elaborate a bit. I'm now 22 years old, when I attempted to join the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs (rejected due to medical problems) I was 17, Walker Bush wasn't even president yet and the current crop of geopolitical issues weren't around.
Hope that clears things up a bit.


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This was the time when Clinton was bombing the Sudan, Iraq and all of Yougoslavia under the NATO banner (killing more "ethnic" Albanians than the Serbians) not to mention the fact that US had troops occupying Saudi Arabia and protecting the royal family there...

wow... imagin that -- Clinton was a warmonger too!

Perhaps I should elaborate a bit. I'm now 22 years old, when I attempted to join the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs (rejected due to medical problems) I was 17, Walker Bush wasn't even president yet and the current crop of geopolitical issues weren't around.
Hope that clears things up a bit.


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This was the time when Clinton was bombing the Sudan, Iraq and all of Yougoslavia under the NATO banner (killing more "ethnic" Albanians than the Serbians) not to mention the fact that US had troops occupying Saudi Arabia and protecting the royal family there...

wow... imagin that -- Clinton was a warmonger too!

As it seems there is no way to placate you into having a civil discourse with you on this, I'm going to bid you good night.

Just wondering, as pretty much every president since Franklin Roosevelt has some kind of inhumane treatment of people and/or borderline war-crime in their closet, is there any president of the United States in the last 60 years or so you respect or are you simply an American that hates America?

pretty much every president since Franklin Roosevelt has some kind of inhumane treatment of people and/or borderline war-crime in their closet

is there any president of the United States in the last 60 years or so you respect or are you simply an American that hates America?

If I were an illogic detecting computer, I would explode...

Why do you call me an "American that hates America" because I don't respect "war-criminal(s)" ?

Perhaps I should elaborate a bit. I'm now 22 years old, when I attempted to join the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs (rejected due to medical problems) I was 17, Walker Bush wasn't even president yet and the current crop of geopolitical issues weren't around.
Hope that clears things up a bit.


...

This was the time when Clinton was bombing the Sudan, Iraq and all of Yougoslavia under the NATO banner (killing more "ethnic" Albanians than the Serbians) not to mention the fact that US had troops occupying Saudi Arabia and protecting the royal family there...

wow... imagin that -- Clinton was a warmonger too!

As it seems there is no way to placate you into having a civil discourse with you on this, I'm going to bid you good night.

Just wondering, as pretty much every president since Franklin Roosevelt has some kind of inhumane treatment of people and/or borderline war-crime in their closet, is there any president of the United States in the last 60 years or so you respect or are you simply an American that hates America? :twisted: And this is in some way *new* ?


As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list--I've got a little list ..... the idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone,
All centuries but this, and every country but his own;
-The Mikado, W.S.Gilbert


Oh, and to the gentleman who held forth on soldiers and having to obey orders, go read the Law According To Nuremberg (where, as I recall it, the US were so keen on an International Crimina Court, they insisted on chairing the event (and would probably, given the chance, have live-televised it with sponsorship from well-known brand-names!))

"For in spite of all temptations ... he is an Englishman" also Gilbert
Soren the (on this occasion) Flame-Troll

Locked for baiting turned all out flaming.

Considering the fact that a few people here have been warned for this activity, and even been deleted for it before, I strongly urge certain players to knock it off.

The author may recreate this thread if he so wishes. It he does, and I see ANY flaming by the people who flamed in this thread, you WILL be deleted.

I hope that's crystal clear.