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What is wrong with you people?

10-06-2004, 02:08
What's with all of the "Anti-Reagan" threads and "I'm Glad Reagan is Dead" threads. What did he ever do to you? I just don't get it. Will someone please throw me a bone, here?
Zyzyx Road
10-06-2004, 02:10
What's with all of the "Anti-Reagan" threads and "I'm Glad Reagan is Dead" threads. What did he ever do to you? I just don't get it. Will someone please throw me a bone, here?

I guess people have opinions. Crazy eh?
imported_Melcelene
10-06-2004, 02:11
I agree. I dislike a lot of people, but when they die, i am not going to say i am glad about it.
imported_Melcelene
10-06-2004, 02:11
I agree. I dislike a lot of people, but when they die, i am not going to say i am glad about it.
Kwangistar
10-06-2004, 02:16
What's with all of the "Anti-Reagan" threads and "I'm Glad Reagan is Dead" threads. What did he ever do to you? I just don't get it. Will someone please throw me a bone, here?
Its just the extremists...
MKULTRA
10-06-2004, 02:16
how many EVIL people die? People badmouthed Scrooge when he died too--for good reason
Kwangistar
10-06-2004, 02:16
What's with all of the "Anti-Reagan" threads and "I'm Glad Reagan is Dead" threads. What did he ever do to you? I just don't get it. Will someone please throw me a bone, here?
Its just the extremists...
Pallia
10-06-2004, 02:18
Absolutely right. Frankly, I'm not a fan of Reagan as President, I don't think he did a very good job. But I think he was a very good man, and I think it is utterly wrong to celebrate the man's death.
MacEwen
10-06-2004, 02:20
Please remember: the average age here is 16, and the average maturity level far below that.
MKULTRA
10-06-2004, 02:20
Absolutely right. Frankly, I'm not a fan of Reagan as President, I don't think he did a very good job. But I think he was a very good man, and I think it is utterly wrong to celebrate the man's death.no ones so much celebrating his death as much as we're honoring all the people in mass graves that Reagan left in his wake
Order From Chaos
10-06-2004, 02:22
thier is a difference between being happy someones dead (which i can see, yeah hitlers dead (for example)

and upsetting people

however the thing where every praises people when they die ignoring the bad bits can go over the top

prince diahana being a good example
Purly Euclid
10-06-2004, 02:27
Absolutely right. Frankly, I'm not a fan of Reagan as President, I don't think he did a very good job. But I think he was a very good man, and I think it is utterly wrong to celebrate the man's death.no ones so much celebrating his death as much as we're honoring all the people in mass graves that Reagan left in his wake
You should've done that right from the get go! Stop obsessing about his death, and start saying much more about those in Nicauragua, Afghanistan, Lybia, and elsewhere. But stop suggesting as if you're jovial that Reagan died.
Order From Chaos
10-06-2004, 02:33
thier is a difference between being happy someones dead (which i can see, yeah hitlers dead (for example)

and upsetting people

however the thing where every praises people when they die ignoring the bad bits can go over the top

prince diahana being a good example
Texastambul
10-06-2004, 02:34
You should've done that right from the get go! Stop obsessing about his death, and start saying much more about those in Nicauragua, Afghanistan, Lybia, and elsewhere. But stop suggesting as if you're jovial that Reagan died.

But I am glad he did!
Ashmoria
10-06-2004, 02:36
uh gee maybe they are being provative in order to make you mad
ever hear of that kind of thing?
you fell for it
Free Outer Eugenia
10-06-2004, 02:45
What's with all of the "Anti-Reagan" threads and "I'm Glad Reagan is Dead" threads. What did he ever do to you? I just don't get it. Will someone please throw me a bone, here?Here are a couple of bones for you:

He robbed from the poor and gave to the rich
His idiotic policies created a bloated national debt that my grandchildren will still be paying.
He cut needed social programs in favor of corporate welfare.
He supported and armed murderous terrorists and brutal dictators around the world.

The national tragedy that was old Ronnie Ray Gun's presidency is still reverberating throughout or nation's political, social and economic landscape and the list goes on and on. In short he makes Sadaam and Osama look like boy scouts.
I piss on this filthy fascist's grave.
Free Soviets
10-06-2004, 04:17
What's with all of the "Anti-Reagan" threads and "I'm Glad Reagan is Dead" threads. What did he ever do to you? I just don't get it. Will someone please throw me a bone, here?

i think the support for dictators and death squads around the world just about covers it. he did have the blood of tens of thousands on his hands after all.
Wertanzen
10-06-2004, 04:20
Absolutely right. Frankly, I'm not a fan of Reagan as President, I don't think he did a very good job. But I think he was a very good man, and I think it is utterly wrong to celebrate the man's death.

Replace "Reagan" with "Stalin," and you'd sound like a crazy man (or woman, whatever).
The Edwardian Empire
10-06-2004, 04:36
Absolutely right. Frankly, I'm not a fan of Reagan as President, I don't think he did a very good job. But I think he was a very good man, and I think it is utterly wrong to celebrate the man's death.

I won't get into an argument over his success as president, but I much respect your far-out concept of not jumping for joy when someone dies.

Edit: In light of "Replace "Reagan" with "Stalin," and you'd sound like a crazy man (or woman, whatever)." I am adding the following

Caveat: "Someone"is not Stalin
MKULTRA
10-06-2004, 05:09
if you lived in latin america youd consider Reagan to be a stalin
Friends of Bill
10-06-2004, 06:09
if you lived in latin america youd consider Reagan to be a stalinand if you are one of the hundreds of millions of people out from under the yolk of communism, you would love the man.
MKULTRA
10-06-2004, 06:11
if you lived in latin america youd consider Reagan to be a stalinand if you are one of the hundreds of millions of people out from under the yolk of communism, you would love the man.they were just peasants who wanted a living wage--no more communistic then americans here who fight republican attempts to steal from the american workers in the interest of corporate welfare
Avia
10-06-2004, 06:17
its not so much that i object to the threads, its just that i object to the number of threads that have been made about him.

i mean, seriously, can't we stop having the same thread about reagan after the 50th time? it never ceased to baffle me with the redundancy.. is that a word? redundancy?
Friends of Bill
10-06-2004, 06:19
if you lived in latin america youd consider Reagan to be a stalinand if you are one of the hundreds of millions of people out from under the yolk of communism, you would love the man.they were just peasants who wanted a living wage--no more communistic then americans here who fight republican attempts to steal from the american workers in the interest of corporate welfareWhat the hell are you talking about? They were sstanding in bread lines, nothing on the shelves of the stores for them to eat, because the Soviets were too busy spreading the revolution.
Free Soviets
10-06-2004, 10:18
if you lived in latin america youd consider Reagan to be a stalinand if you are one of the hundreds of millions of people out from under the yolk of communism, you would love the man.they were just peasants who wanted a living wage--no more communistic then americans here who fight republican attempts to steal from the american workers in the interest of corporate welfareWhat the hell are you talking about? They were sstanding in bread lines, nothing on the shelves of the stores for them to eat, because the Soviets were too busy spreading the revolution.

you two are talking about different things.

and the russians still stand in bread lines.
NewXmen
10-06-2004, 10:26
What's with all of the "Anti-Reagan" threads and "I'm Glad Reagan is Dead" threads. What did he ever do to you? I just don't get it. Will someone please throw me a bone, here?

Oh. That. They want to get you so worked up that you do not go out to vote for any Republican or help one out. The best vengeance for this is to help out a Republican and vote or they have succeeded.
Catholic Europe
10-06-2004, 10:28
What's with all of the "Anti-Reagan" threads and "I'm Glad Reagan is Dead" threads. What did he ever do to you? I just don't get it. Will someone please throw me a bone, here?

Well, I don't know what Reagan did, but that's pretty disrespectful to the dead.
Bergist
10-06-2004, 10:33
Not only do russians still stand in bread lines, there's quite a bit of evidence to suggest we helped make this happen. Many people have now suggested the reason for much of the trouble in the U.S.S.R. was due to the pressure of the U.S. and other world powers. Think about it, from it's very beginning it had to compete with well-established powers, pouring a good deal of its national budget into the military and space program to attempt to keep up with us. If the cold war hadn't lasted most of the Soviet Unions existence maybe they would have fared a bit better. But it's like the British, French, and Spanish pointing nukes (yes I know they didn't have any but nothing seems to be a valid equivalent in the 1700s) at us from the time of our conception (i.e. the American revolution). I think we'd try very very hard to catch up. And if you look at what they were doing, it appeared to be just that: catching up. And I think the U.S. is worse at "spreading the revolution" than the U.S.S.R. ever was. 'cept now we call it "regime change", catchy huh?

Anyway, I'm no fan of Reagan, but as a semi-unique brand of pacifist, I couldn't begin to feel good about his death. It just doesn't feel right to do so.
Carlemnaria
10-06-2004, 10:45
rotten ronney (raygun) was a front man for the same evil in the name of good g.w. is its current poster boy. him and khomani brought each other to power subverting the only president of the u.s. ever to not make me ashaimed of living in it, jimi carter. (jfk was probably the best president as far as doing the most good for the country, and clinton tried to rescue us from the corporate fascism that migrated from hitler's germany in the heart of joe mccarthey in the early 50s, and worshipped by trikkey dickey nixxon, but carter was the only one who didn't demonize in policy every nation that didn't kiss our collective greed's backside). iran contra was done to finance right wing terrorest death squads to overthrow popular and democraticly elected governemts in latin america.
so if you're going to remember and morn the dead, try remembering ragun's thousands of latin american victums.
he also in one sense overplayed the right wing's hand by leaning on then cummunist russia hard enough to push its then dominant idiology over the edge of some sort of so called colapse. i say overplayed because by doing so the so called political right lost its so called dear enimy and most convincing excuse for its deprivations. (this had been a mutual good deal for right wing extremests on both sides of the so called iron curtain, a concept invented btw, not by stalin or kruchief, but by d(im)wite d isenhour, the general who was given credit for the real bloody work of every other general who had preceeded him in ending wwii)

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Naughtland
10-06-2004, 15:07
however the thing where every praises people when they die ignoring the bad bits can go over the top

I must admit, I find some of the adulation heaped on Regan at present to be a bit absurd (particularly the contention that he ended the cold war) but someones death is not the time to be petty. When someone dies, we try to remember their good points both for their sake and the sake of their families, hold off our major criticizem until they are buried at least, and let hisory judge them (hopefully more objectively as time passes). Personally, I think history will judge Regan as an ineffective president under who's watch some highly immoral and illegal actions were undertaken (Iran-contra, Nicaragua, etc.) that if he was not aware of, he should have been. That said, I am willing to put these criticizems aside at least until he is buried for the sake of his family and respect for the passing of a human life.
Zeppistan
10-06-2004, 15:12
What's with all of the "Anti-Reagan" threads and "I'm Glad Reagan is Dead" threads. What did he ever do to you? I just don't get it. Will someone please throw me a bone, here?

While I don't agree with anyone who states happiness at his passing - that is just tasteless - for those of us over the age of 30 his policies did indeed affect us.

Very much so in fact.

Or do you really think that the decisions of your president doesn't "do anything" to your citizens?

Besides - it's been a nice change arguing Reaganomics instead of Bushonomics....

-Z-
Ecopoeia
10-06-2004, 15:30
if you lived in latin america youd consider Reagan to be a stalinand if you are one of the hundreds of millions of people out from under the yolk of communism, you would love the man.

How may times do I see this? It's 'yoke'. Or are you using an egg as a metaphor for communist oppression?

Anyway... what's the point in celebrating his death? He was in his nineties. If he'd died thirty years ago or been assassinated you'd have a reason to celebrate. I don't agree with celebrating death, but if you're going to then at least do so for a valid reason.

Alternatively, think about those who didn't get the long, cushy life he did. The ones who suffered because of him and his ilk.
Free Outer Eugenia
10-06-2004, 20:15
if you lived in latin america youd consider Reagan to be a stalinand if you are one of the hundreds of millions of people out from under the yolk of communism, you would love the man.