NationStates Jolt Archive


War Poetry in the NY Times

Incertonia
09-06-2004, 08:56
On the Op-Ed page, so don't anyone give me that liberal rag bullshit.

A few months ago, Nicholas Kristof asked for readers to send in war poems. He's published some of them in tomorrow's column. (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/09/opinion/09KRIS.html?ex=1402113600&en=1eea33df3d194ddd&ei=5007&partner=USERLAND)

I'm a poet by trade, and while these are certainly not the same quality as Wilfred Owen of Siegfried Sassoon, they are certainly worth reading.

Here's the first one he posts.


Outside the city, shivering with dread,
We're Falluja bound.
Can hear the explosions when I raise my head. . . .
Foreign soldiers, invaders from another land;
When I look through the hatred in their eyes,
I almost understand.
R.P.G.'s, mortars, and friends dead on the road.
My youth is gone,
Crushed from sensory overload.
Assaulted yesterday up an Iraqi street.
R.P.G. explosion, a scream,
Seared my face with the heat.
Dragged him through the blood-streaked dust and dirt,
His screams in my ears,
His blood type tagged to his shirt.
Covered with blood, he cried, Don't leave me alone.
Died in my arms;
Now I just want to go home.
Officers yelling, Get out of your holes!
We're Falluja bound;
Please pray for our souls.

There are more in the column and even more at Kristof's blog. (http://www.nytimes.com/kristofresponds)

Someone want to ask Limbaugh if he thinks Tim Johnson is a "gentle little [flower] wilting in the breeze"? (http://mediamatters.org/items/200405280004)

Last but not least, if you want to post your own poems that deal with the war, whether opposed to or in favor of, then feel free. I ask only this--no flaming or criticism of anyone else's poems, regardless of how inaccurate you may feel they are or how enraged they make you. Break this rule and I'll ask the mods to deal with you harshly. Thank you.
Safalra
09-06-2004, 10:26
This isn't mine, but I don't think any other poem on war could improve upon it:

On Being Asked for a War Poem - Yeats (1915)

I think it better that in times like these
A poet's mouth be silent, for in truth
We have no gift to set a statesman right;
He has had enough of meddling who can please
A young girl in the indolence of her youth,
Or an old man upon a winter's night.
Incertonia
09-06-2004, 16:34
bump--there are so many poets here I can't imagine that none of you has no comment on this or a poem to share.
Norse Lands
09-06-2004, 16:39
So long, mom,
I'm off to drop the bomb,
So don't wait up for me.
But while you swelter
Down there in your shelter
You can see me
On your TV.

While we're attacking frontally
Watch Brinkally and Huntally
Describing contrapuntally
The cities we have lost.
No need for you to miss a minute of the agonizing holocaust. Yeah!

Little Johnny Jones, he was a US pilot,
And no shrinking violet was he.
He was mighty proud when World War III was declared.
He wasn't scared, no siree!

And this is what he said on
His way to Armageddon:

So long, mom,
I'm off to drop the bomb,
So don't wait up for me.
But though I may roam,
I'll come back to my home
Although it may be
A pile of debris.

Remember, mommy,
I'm off to get a commie,
So send me a salami
And try to smile somehow.
I'll look for you when the war is over,
An hour and a half from now!
Jeldred
09-06-2004, 16:44
Thank you, Tom Lehrer! :)
Norse Lands
09-06-2004, 16:46
Thank you, Tom Lehrer! :)

At last, someone who recognises quality music.
Incertonia
09-06-2004, 16:46
This isn't my poem--it's a translation I did of a Chant Royal written by Charles D'Orleans about 600 years ago, but it still seems relevant today (even though I'm not a religious person).

Chant Royal

Pray for peace, our sweet Virgin Mary,
Queen of heaven, mistress of the world,
through your courtesy, have all pray,
Saints, men and women both, and make bold
your prayer to your Son, request your Lord
to gaze upon his people, if it please Him,
all those his sheep, those his blood did redeem,
and reject war that throws all things awry;
We beg all of you, pray without ceasing;
Pray for peace, the true treasure of joy!

And pray, prelates, and you of sainted life;
Clergymen, don't sink in lazy sleep,
Pray, learned monks and scribes alike,
for war and fighting make all learning cease
and churches once destroyed can't be replaced,
and God's service must then be put aside.
When you're unable to sleep through the night
Pray for strength that God will soon hear you;
The Church has thus ordained you for this rite:
Pray for peace the true treasure of joy!

Pray, Princes, those given sovereignty,
Kings, dukes, counts, barons, all with noble blood,
Gentlemen, those moved by chivalry,
for wicked men are plaguing all your brood;
And fill their hands with all your wealth and good;
they raise discord and strife to greatest height
You see this every day! It isn't right
That they are rich with all your goods and money—
That with which you aid your peoples' plight.
Pray for peace, the true treasure of joy!

Pray peoples, you who suffer tyranny
for your lords have so wasted their prowess
they can no longer guard you, their mastery
will not save you when you are in distress;
Oh, loyal merchants, the yokes upon your necks
hurt badly; everyone wishes you afflicted
and you cannot move your merchandise to market
for they cannot protect you on your way,
and peril stands between you and your profits.
Pray for peace, the true treasure of joy!

And pray, you men who love, you gentle souls,
who wish to keep receiving love's largesse;
War will make your pockets empty holes.
Pray, lovers, all who wish for happiness,
serve love, for bloody war, through harshness
keeps you from consorting with your loves
which often makes their thoughts, their fancies, rove;
and just when you're at the end of your rope,
a stranger comes to take it away from you
Pray for peace, the true treasure of joy!

Almighty God, comfort us, we beg you
All those on earth, and those in sea and sky
Pray to Him will soon show us the way,
and He is all, mends all that falls awry;
Pray for peace, the true treasure of joy!
Spanish Biru
09-06-2004, 17:32
From the halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli,

We fight our country's battles
In the air, on land, and sea.

First to fight for right and freedom,
And to keep our honor clean,

We are proud to claim the title
Of United States Marines.

Our flag's unfurl'd to every breeze
From dawn to setting sun;

We have fought in every clime and place
Where we could take a gun.

In the snow of far-off northern lands
And in sunny tropic scenes,

You will find us always on the job -
The United States Marines.

Here's health to you and to our Corps
Which we are proud to serve;

In many a strife we've fought for life
And never lost our nerve.

If the Army and the Navy
Ever gaze on Heaven's scenes,

They will find the streets are guarded
By United States Marines.

The Marines' Hymn

(ok, not exactly "poetry" per se, but a song is close enough)
Jeldred
09-06-2004, 18:35
OK, with some trepidation, here's a sort of a poem about the war, or at least inspired by the war, what I wrote: :)

Bread and Circuses

Death and Taxes
Guns and Butter
Queen and Country
Oil and Water
Truth and Justice
Might and Right
Fear and Loathing
Black and White