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Should nazi's be allowed to adopt children?
I say no, they'd only grow up to be nazi's themselves.
If everyone would be a nazi, we'd all die out.
Besides, being a nazi is unnatural.

you suppose this is trolling?

Naah, just some light humour to put things in perspective.

Well, if the nazis adopted killer robot children, who grew up to realize his parents were white trash that only hated blacks because they're a convenient scapegoat.

And then the killer robot slaughtered them, that would be sweet.

Id sooner let a gay couple raise children than a nazi couple....

You know, they would probably grow up as Nazis. The world might not die out, well a few races would. WHY DID THIS MAKE ME THINK? SUMMER SHOULD MAKE BRAIN NO THINKY.

I considered yes for a few seconds because the killer robot idea is awesome.

Then decided to go with no :p

well I suppose I'm being prejudiced...but I say no

For some reason, I see Nazis as being more likely to raise Nazi children than gays are to raise gay children

Id sooner let a gay couple raise children than a nazi couple....


Why because your ideals of "universal-tolerance" aren't quite universal... They are hypocritical lies that you apply to only those you deem fit..

I pull no punches about claiming to be "tolerant of all"... So I am no hypocrite. You however, people like you claim to be "For everybody"... But in practice you never are..

I'm prejuduce against people who are prejuduce :p

well I suppose I'm being prejudiced...but I say no

For some reason, I see Nazis as being more likely to raise Nazi children than gays are to raise gay children


Answer these both please

Is it the right of a nazi to raise their child as they see fit?
Is it the right of queers to raise their child as they see fit?

I'm prejuduce against people who are prejuduce :p


That makes you prejudiced... So you must be against yourself.


Tolerance only works when you tolerate everything and anything... But inevitably you will have to come to the conclusion that you cannot tolerate those who are intolerant. This makes you yourself intolerant and the whole system of "tolerance" eventually falls apart when people see it for the sham it is.

If I were in charge nobody would be allowed to adopt. Especially gays. Especially Nazis. Especially gay Nazis.

If I were in charge nobody would be allowed to adopt. Especially gays. Especially Nazis. Especially gay Nazis.

No such thing as a gay Nazi... No real Nazi could be gay.

Tolerance only works when you tolerate everything and anything... But inevitably you will have to come to the conclusion that you cannot tolerate those who are intolerant. This makes you yourself intolerant and the whole system of "tolerance" eventually falls apart when people see it for the sham it is.

Intolerance only works when the people who preach it don't start crying when it's applied to them.

If I were in charge, I'd have an army of ninja-pirates.

Oh, and everyone could adopt. But ninja-pirates are MUCH more interesting!

And, by the way, the whole "prejuduce against prejuduce" thing? IT WAS A JOKE.

Id sooner let a gay couple raise children than a nazi couple....


Why because your ideals of "universal-tolerance" aren't quite universal... They are hypocritical lies that you apply to only those you deem fit..

I pull no punches about claiming to be "tolerant of all"... So I am no hypocrite. You however, people like you claim to be "For everybody"... But in practice you never are..

Woah....

You dont know me, or what i think....

So who the hell are you to tell me what I believe and what I dont?

I have a problem with teaching children to hate.
Thats about all that the Nazi party was.

Id sooner let a gay couple raise children than a nazi couple....


Why because your ideals of "universal-tolerance" aren't quite universal... They are hypocritical lies that you apply to only those you deem fit..

I pull no punches about claiming to be "tolerant of all"... So I am no hypocrite. You however, people like you claim to be "For everybody"... But in practice you never are..

Woah....

You dont know me, or what i think....

So who the hell are you to tell me what I believe and what I dont?

I have a problem with teaching children to hate.
Thats about all that the Nazi party was.

Put do you have a problem with a militant gay group marching up and down the street chanting "10% is not enough... Recruit Recruit Recruit." (10% of the nation is gay and they often will go find troubled kids who are confused and try to talk them into experimenting with homosexuality)... The faggots are truly sick and disgusting... They are after your children...

WAKE UP!!!
WAKE UP!!!
WAKE UP!!!

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD WAKE UP!!!

They could be worst. God damn crackers, going around, trying to convince everyone of honkey superiority.

Id sooner let a gay couple raise children than a nazi couple....


Why because your ideals of "universal-tolerance" aren't quite universal... They are hypocritical lies that you apply to only those you deem fit..

I pull no punches about claiming to be "tolerant of all"... So I am no hypocrite. You however, people like you claim to be "For everybody"... But in practice you never are..

Woah....

You dont know me, or what i think....

So who the hell are you to tell me what I believe and what I dont?

I have a problem with teaching children to hate.
Thats about all that the Nazi party was.

Put do you have a problem with a militant gay group marching up and down the street chanting "10% is not enough... Recruit Recruit Recruit." (10% of the nation is gay and they often will go find troubled kids who are confused and try to talk them into experimenting with homosexuality)... The faggots are truly sick and disgusting... They are after your children...

WAKE UP!!!
WAKE UP!!!
WAKE UP!!!

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD WAKE UP!!!

Unlike the nazi party, or the KKK. They NEVER preyed on confused troubled kids having a hard time fitting in.

But do you have a problem with a militant gay group marching up and down the street chanting "10% is not enough... Recruit Recruit Recruit."

Cool! I didn't know they had those. Could you give me an example?

Id sooner let a gay couple raise children than a nazi couple....


Why because your ideals of "universal-tolerance" aren't quite universal... They are hypocritical lies that you apply to only those you deem fit..

I pull no punches about claiming to be "tolerant of all"... So I am no hypocrite. You however, people like you claim to be "For everybody"... But in practice you never are..

Woah....

You dont know me, or what i think....

So who the hell are you to tell me what I believe and what I dont?

I have a problem with teaching children to hate.
Thats about all that the Nazi party was.

Put do you have a problem with a militant gay group marching up and down the street chanting "10% is not enough... Recruit Recruit Recruit." (10% of the nation is gay and they often will go find troubled kids who are confused and try to talk them into experimenting with homosexuality)... The faggots are truly sick and disgusting... They are after your children...

WAKE UP!!!
WAKE UP!!!
WAKE UP!!!

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD WAKE UP!!!

wrong choice of words.

Thats gonna cost you.

and frankly...no I dont have a problem with it...and I really dont think any "gay conspracists" are "out to recruit the children".

But do you have a problem with a militant gay group marching up and down the street chanting "10% is not enough... Recruit Recruit Recruit."

Cool! I didn't know they had those. Could you give me an example?

I remember a time a group... I think called the Canadian Concerned Christian Coalition was invaded by masked faggots who broke up their meeting in a hotel conference room... It made the news... check the CCCC website.

That's actually pretty funny if you ask me.

Then again, I have a weird sense of humor. If someone ran into a vegetarian convention, eating meat and yelling "at least animals have a chance to run!" I'd break my side laughing too hard.

I see signs at gay parades all the time that say "Join us, or we will KILL YOU!!!"

But do you have a problem with a militant gay group marching up and down the street chanting "10% is not enough... Recruit Recruit Recruit."

Cool! I didn't know they had those. Could you give me an example?

I remember a time a group... I think called the Canadian Concerned Christian Coalition was invaded by masked faggots who broke up their meeting in a hotel conference room... It made the news... check the CCCC website.

That's not exactly a gay pride is it? Could you give me an example of that, including the chanting of "we need more homosexuals!"?

I see signs at gay parades all the time that say "Join us, or we will KILL YOU!!!"

Carried by the gays or by the Christians standing next to the road? :wink:

I see signs at gay parades all the time that say "Join us, or we will KILL YOU!!!"

Carried by the gays or by the Christians standing next to the road? :wink:

Both, and then they start beating each other with the signs.

I see signs at gay parades all the time that say "Join us, or we will KILL YOU!!!"

Carried by the gays or by the Christians standing next to the road? :wink:

Both, and then they start beating each other with the signs.

Now I really have to visit a Gay Pride event. :lol:

It sounds like more fun then a soccer riot!

It's best when the midget parade is in town on the same day, oh wow.

You'd be surprised how well midgets can wield those signs.

I suggest everyone should become either gay or Christian, so we can all grab a sign and beat each other!
The Christians would have an unfair advantage though, with all the gays 'hitting on' each other.

I see signs at gay parades all the time that say "Join us, or we will KILL YOU!!!"

Carried by the gays or by the Christians standing next to the road? :wink:

Both, and then they start beating each other with the signs.
SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY!!!!!! IT'S WREEEEESTLE MANIA!!!!!!!!

Saying a Nazi couple will have Nazi children is preposterous. That would be just like saying the children that gay couples adopt will automatically be gay. :?

Saying a Nazi couple will have Nazi children is preposterous. That would be just like saying the children that gay couples adopt will automatically be gay. :?

Not really, since the child would most likely be raised with a nazi ideology.
That doesn't work with gays. A gay ideology?

Yes, they will have extremely good fashion sense and will always have an odd slur :p

But man...are we allowed to bring our own signs, or are they handed out?

Yes, they will have extremely good fashion sense and will always have an odd slur :p

But man...are we allowed to bring our own signs, or are they handed out?

Well, you're supposed to bring your own, but they always have a few extra laying around.

Plus, you can always wait until one sign wielder gets knocked unconscious...or dies...and then take their sign.

I'll bring me "<--- I'm with stupid! --->" sign!

I'll bring my "<--- I'm with stupid! --->" sign!

Oh the irony. :P

Id sooner let a gay couple raise children than a nazi couple....

I agree...minus the fact that there's nothing wrong with gay couples raising children.

No such thing as a gay Nazi... No real Nazi could be gay.
CoughRohmCough.

I like the idea of nazi adoption. You get a picture of your nazi and passes to see it at the zoo any time.
Have a heart, adopt a nazi.

Man I'm really sick of those militant homosexual groups trying to convert me. :roll: Obviously...


OMG FASCISTWHITESTATES LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU!!! IT'S A GAY JEWISH BLACK GUY!!



probably craped his pants...

Man I'm really sick of those militant homosexual groups trying to convert me. :roll: Obviously...

OMG FASCISTWHITESTATES LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU!!! IT'S A GAY JEWISH BLACK GUY!!

probably craped his pants...

I believe this is the funniest thing I've heard all day. :lol:

Im not prejudice at all, not one little, itty, bity, tiny, whittle, microscopic bit



I just dislike evveryone!!!

who didnt see that comming???

Man I'm really sick of those militant homosexual groups trying to convert me. :roll: Obviously...

OMG FASCISTWHITESTATES LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU!!! IT'S A GAY JEWISH BLACK GUY!!

probably craped his pants...

I believe this is the funniest thing I've heard all day. :lol:

Yes...for sure, hands down, funniest thing all day.....and, for me, its only 6 am!!!!

I do not see anything particularly wrong with nazi's adapting children, so long as they do not abuse the child. Besides, it doesn't mean the child will grow up to be a nazi.

Sorry if I'm playing devil's advocate here :P

The child may not turn out like their parents, it all depends on if you want to accept that children are a product of their environment, or a product of pre-planned, non changeable, biological...stuff.

Mostly, I think, yes, they would, but, for the most part, Smokers children smoke, if your parents listen to rock, you tend to like at least some of it, if they curse a lot, so might you.

This is not always true, for example, my parents have both smoked since i was born, now 19, and i have never once wanted to smoke, i, do, however, listen to rock, and so have they since i was born. suggesting that its a little from part A, environment, and a little from part B, biological...stuff

So, I give the children a 75% chance of being Nazis (Though Nazi is sooo the wrong term,.....why don’t you try racist, or supremacist, or prejudice? the Correct term, a "nazi" is someone form Nazi Germany, (1935(?)-1945) a member of the Nazi party, now defunct.)

I believe that all parents who want to adopt are investigated to make sure that the child grows up in a good environment. (At least they are here.) I doubt many Nazis/Supremacists/etc would pass this test, but I do believe that everybody should be judged equally.

The child may not turn out like their parents, it all depends on if you want to accept that children are a product of their environment, or a product of pre-planned, non changeable, biological...stuff.

Mostly, I think, yes, they would, but, for the most part, Smokers children smoke, if your parents listen to rock, you tend to like at least some of it, if they curse a lot, so might you.

This is not always true, for example, my parents have both smoked since i was born, now 19, and i have never once wanted to smoke, i, do, however, listen to rock, and so have they since i was born. suggesting that its a little from part A, environment, and a little from part B, biological...stuff

So, I give the children a 75% chance of being Nazis (Though Nazi is sooo the wrong term,.....why don’t you try racist, or supremacist, or prejudice? the Correct term, a "nazi" is someone form Nazi Germany, (1935(?)-1945) a member of the Nazi party, now defunct.)

I agree, at least in part, my parents smoked too, although they no longer do. Never picked up the filthy habit - I refused to feed the merchants of death at an early age. . .

As for racists et al adopting children, I honestly don't see why not. . .If you really believe in Democracy (and I don't!) then you would have no problem with it.

So, I give the children a 75% chance of being Nazis (Though Nazi is sooo the wrong term,.....why don’t you try racist, or supremacist, or prejudice? the Correct term, a "nazi" is someone form Nazi Germany, (1935(?)-1945) a member of the Nazi party, now defunct.)Thing is, you do often see kids who choose to rebel against their parents beliefs. Thats why Nazis happen even in good families. So, its entirely possible that even two very extreme Nazi parents would raise a socialist liberal.

However, the evil taint that is racism might be rather harder to shake off if you're exposed to it at an early age.

The child may not turn out like their parents, it all depends on if you want to accept that children are a product of their environment, or a product of pre-planned, non changeable, biological...stuff.

Mostly, I think, yes, they would, but, for the most part, Smokers children smoke, if your parents listen to rock, you tend to like at least some of it, if they curse a lot, so might you.

This is not always true, for example, my parents have both smoked since i was born, now 19, and i have never once wanted to smoke, i, do, however, listen to rock, and so have they since i was born. suggesting that its a little from part A, environment, and a little from part B, biological...stuff

So, I give the children a 75% chance of being Nazis (Though Nazi is sooo the wrong term,.....why don’t you try racist, or supremacist, or prejudice? the Correct term, a "nazi" is someone form Nazi Germany, (1935(?)-1945) a member of the Nazi party, now defunct.)
I think a better way to look at it is "Parents of [x religion] have children of [x religion]" Especially since parents don't usually encourage their kids to smoke

and to answer the questions from page 1
1. Yes
2. Yes as long as they raise their children healthily- Nazism isn't healthy

This shouldn't really be an issue; Nazis strike me as the last people to want to adopt children. Seems to me that they would insist on having their own. You know, with the whole furthering the white race thing.

Yes, they will have extremely good fashion sense and will always have an odd slur :p

But man...are we allowed to bring our own signs, or are they handed out?

Well, you're supposed to bring your own, but they always have a few extra laying around.

Plus, you can always wait until one sign wielder gets knocked unconscious...or dies...and then take their sign.


I know some people who frequently go to rallies that get pretty intense... They've been in the thick of it... Let me tell you though if somebody tried to knock them unconscious, they'd probably whip a pistol or a shotgun out from under their robe.

So, I give the children a 75% chance of being Nazis (Though Nazi is sooo the wrong term,.....why don’t you try racist, or supremacist, or prejudice? the Correct term, a "nazi" is someone form Nazi Germany, (1935(?)-1945) a member of the Nazi party, now defunct.)Thing is, you do often see kids who choose to rebel against their parents beliefs. Thats why Nazis happen even in good families. So, its entirely possible that even two very extreme Nazi parents would raise a socialist liberal.

However, the evil taint that is racism might be rather harder to shake off if you're exposed to it at an early age.


Yes but if you smash your kid's developing sense of individuality and ego at about age 2-3 then he becomes a zombie who takes after the one he fears... Basically I mean emotionally abuse a young kid and they'll be a mirror image of the abuser.... Which probably explains why there are so many leftists today.

Basically I mean emotionally abuse a young kid and they'll be a mirror image of the abuser.... Which probably explains why there are so many leftists today.

Well someone needs to fight the cancer on society that people like you are.

What if we provided them with tinfoil hats to prevent the Nazi ideas from seeping in their brains?

I always thought it was the right-wingers that beat their children.

I mean, aren't the leftists all about human rights and all that?

What if we provided them with tinfoil hats to prevent the Nazi ideas from seeping in their brains?

Excellent idea! And we could have unemployed Nigerians make the tinfoil hats, saving them from a life of poverty!

I always thought it was the right-wingers that beat their children.

I mean, aren't the leftists all about human rights and all that?

Nonono, it's the leftists who eat aborted babies (which is the only reason they're really pro-choice) and brainwash their children with disgusting ideas such as loving your fellow man, tolerance and compassion.

say no, and then give the reason that they are genetically inferior. Then when they storm out in a rage, you can laugh and laugh.

Oh, by the way, this can be considered a joke if it offends you.

Voted yes. Anyone should be able to adopt so long as they meet certain basic requirements for being able to care for the child. To the best of my knowledge it has yet to be shown that the children of racists of any stripe are significantly less healthy than others of their socioeconomic class.

I always thought it was the right-wingers that beat their children.

I mean, aren't the leftists all about human rights and all that?



In my experience the "Conservative Right" does probably beat kids because they have some warped "Judeo-Christian" idea about child rearing...

The "Racist Right" respects their kids (Because they are the future of the race and the sense of chivalry)... Also the "Racist Right" I think they treat their children better because they know how tough their kids have it having to put with up with things like integration and such. Also the "Racist Right" rejects the Juadized form of Christianity and preaches the True Word of Yahweh and Yahshua.

Liberals probably beat their kids if they say something not "Politically Correct"... Like "Daddy... I think those people shouldn't get slave reparations... Why can't we just ship them out of here." Saying that would get the kid a beating, commie style.

Well ok... to play some devil's advocate here:
We here in this country have the right to believe in whatever ideology(s) we want. That's protected. And that includes the right to believe in the ideals of the Nazi party. I may (do) find those ideals to be totally wrong-headed and despicable, but I don't believe that either I or the government has the right to discriminate again a couple on that basis. I may think racism is wrong, but who am I to say?
Now, if these Nazis have anything on their records... say, inciting violence, or harassment, or even violating workplace descrimination policies. Maybe they've been carving swastikas in their arms, maybe they have federally banned weapons stashed under their mattress... any of these things would e grounds for preventing adoption.
So I don't argue with a peaceful, law-abiding Nazi adopting a child, I just have this hunch you're going to have trouble finding peaceful, law-abiding Nazis in this country. Call me crazy.

Well ok... to play some devil's advocate here:
We here in this country have the right to believe in whatever ideology(s) we want. That's protected. And that includes the right to believe in the ideals of the Nazi party. I may (do) find those ideals to be totally wrong-headed and despicable, but I don't believe that either I or the government has the right to discriminate again a couple on that basis. I may think racism is wrong, but who am I to say?
Now, if these Nazis have anything on their records... say, inciting violence, or harassment, or even violating workplace descrimination policies. Maybe they've been carving swastikas in their arms, maybe they have federally banned weapons stashed under their mattress... any of these things would e grounds for preventing adoption.
So I don't argue with a peaceful, law-abiding Nazi adopting a child, I just have this hunch you're going to have trouble finding peaceful, law-abiding Nazis in this country. Call me crazy.

I always thought it was the right-wingers that beat their children.

I mean, aren't the leftists all about human rights and all that?



In my experience the "Conservative Right" does probably beat kids because they have some warped "Judeo-Christian" idea about child rearing...

The "Racist Right" respects their kids (Because they are the future of the race and the sense of chivalry)... Also the "Racist Right" I think they treat their children better because they know how tough their kids have it having to put with up with things like integration and such. Also the "Racist Right" rejects the Juadized form of Christianity and preaches the True Word of Yahweh and Yahshua.

Liberals probably beat their kids if they say something not "Politically Correct"... Like "Daddy... I think those people shouldn't get slave reparations... Why can't we just ship them out of here." Saying that would get the kid a beating, commie style.

You do realize, don't you, that Yahweh and Yeshua are very Jewish names.

well...is all right..not all children turn out like there parents and they should only be allowed if there not gonna teach them the same veiws they have

You do realize, don't you, that Yahweh and Yeshua are very Jewish names.

You don't realize... I believe the old testament jews... The Chosen of Yahweh were White Europeans... And White Christians are still the Chosen of Yahweh and Yeshua.


Like my preacher says, "We're the True Israel."

This is a good question, however, should Greys be allowed to adopt children? And what about ZOGists?

You don't realize... I believe the old testament jews... The Chosen of Yahweh were White Europeans... And White Christians are still the Chosen of Yahweh and Yeshua.


Like my preacher says, "We're the True Israel."

The old Testament Jews? You mean the ones enslaved by Egypt and lead to Isreal by Moses? They were European?

I have to agree with Ish-mael.
I assumed the initial post was just a bit of humour, but there really are too many people saying nazis shouldn't adopt, (hey, why not go further and sterilise them so they can't breed naturally)?
It's very arrogant to say that someone else's veiw point is so wrong (ie different to yours) that they shouldnt raise kids. And whats the worst that can happen, they raise their kids to be nazis?
Anything illegal they do will still be acted upon (or at least shouldd be), so its not like the very small percentage ofthe population raised in this way will have a significant impact on racist political parties etc.

Rant over.

Nazi's have never and will never be allowed to adopt. The adoption agency tries to sort out families w/poisonous atmosphere that a child would grow up in (IE Nazi households), thus keeping Nazis from ever adopting

Ye,s because all leftists are communists. And all communists beat their kids.

That's why communism fails. Because the kids who're beaten rise up and declare a revolution :p.

Now I HATE to break your nice little evil bubble on how the world works, but I'm a leftist, and I'm not gonna beat my kid over that. Hopefully he/she'll know better, but if not, I'll explain it to them nice and easy and make sure they understand.

Liberals probably beat their kids if they say something not "Politically Correct"... Like "Daddy... I think those people shouldn't get slave reparations... Why can't we just ship them out of here." Saying that would get the kid a beating, commie style.
Well, if they say something like that, they obviously haven't been wearing their tinfoil hat. They need to learn these things!

Ye,s because all leftists are communists. And all communists beat their kids.

That's why communism fails. Because the kids who're beaten rise up and declare a revolution :p.

Now I HATE to break your nice little evil bubble on how the world works, but I'm a leftist, and I'm not gonna beat my kid over that. Hopefully he/she'll know better, but if not, I'll explain it to them nice and easy and make sure they understand.
No, remember, the beaten kid ends up just like his parents- so the children would also be commies
I have to agree with Ish-mael.
I assumed the initial post was just a bit of humour, but there really are too many people saying nazis shouldn't adopt, (hey, why not go further and sterilise them so they can't breed naturally)?
It's very arrogant to say that someone else's veiw point is so wrong (ie different to yours) that they shouldnt raise kids. And whats the worst that can happen, they raise their kids to be nazis?
Anything illegal they do will still be acted upon (or at least shouldd be), so its not like the very small percentage ofthe population raised in this way will have a significant impact on racist political parties etc.

Rant over.
I did take this to mean as a joke, but I also used joking logic to support it. I only voted no in response our neighborhood facist here voting no for gay couples being able to adopt. I, personally, don't like to make hardly anything at all illegal. However, I would absolutely under no circumstances EVER want a child of mine to be adopted by Nazis.
So I guess the real answer is "use protection"

Should nazi's be allowed to adopt children?
I say no, they'd only grow up to be nazi's themselves.
If everyone would be a nazi, we'd all die out.
Besides, being a nazi is unnatural.

It is unnatural an they are "latent" gays (nothing against gays, Bush is one) like Hitler and Ernst Röhm and other Berlusconis. Best thing is to "kill em all" in the Bush way. But that is not a priority since they only have sex with ugly not fertile women :twisted: Like all useless things, they will extinct or kill eachother :twisted:

Well, I think the Nazi are easy scapegoats for a lot of problems. When you look at World War II, the Germans were probably about as justified as us. We completely destroyed two whole towns just to get our enemy to surrender, which is not much better than moving people to organized camps to kill them. I don't think any group or party is evil, but it's convenient to make them so. So, yes, they should be allowed to adopt. (in my opinion).

Nazis should only be allowed to adopt minority children.

Well, I think the Nazi are easy scapegoats for a lot of problems. When you look at World War II, the Germans were probably about as justified as us. We completely destroyed two whole towns just to get our enemy to surrender, which is not much better than moving people to organized camps to kill them. I don't think any group or party is evil, but it's convenient to make them so. So, yes, they should be allowed to adopt. (in my opinion).

hmm... destroying the cities of a genocidal war machine government is ALMOST as bad as being one... that's good to know. :roll:

Well, I think the Nazi are easy scapegoats for a lot of problems. When you look at World War II, the Germans were probably about as justified as us. We completely destroyed two whole towns just to get our enemy to surrender, which is not much better than moving people to organized camps to kill them. I don't think any group or party is evil, but it's convenient to make them so. So, yes, they should be allowed to adopt. (in my opinion).

hmm... destroying the cities of a genocidal war machine government is ALMOST as bad as being one... that's good to know. :roll:
The cities I think being refered to were in Japan, and different from the west as they were they were hardly 'genocidal'. To me the A bombs were not as bad as the deliberate low level fire bombing of Japanese residential centres. Also the use of two bombs appears excessive, and could the first not have been dropped on an area or isalnd with nil or very small population, just to demonstrate the power?
Saying all this it is easy to look bad with the benefit of hind sight and judge, when at the time these were very hard choices to make.
On to adoption. If you claim to be a free land then the political leanings or religion of adaptive parents should never be a consideration. If you are a centerist nation that has a declared political bias then yep go ahead and discriminate.

The parents can raise the children how ever they want, if the kids have enught sense they will do what they think is right...

OK this one is for FWS 'cause we all know he is still reading this, don't we?

Re: your insane troll logic *nods to Insane Troll* that you use to conclude that tolerance is a sham because a totally tolerant person would tolerate intolerance. This is very close to the idea that to execute a murderer is murder... but if one takes that to your lengths then one might conclude that the concept of murder is a sham.

As has been mentioned though you seem to wish to define your adversary's positions, specifically by saying that to espouse tolerance without hypocricy one must tolerate anything and everything... pedophelia, terrorism, FOX's LOL sundays, etc. But those who do espouse this thing called tolerance do not do so as the primary and unmoderated principle of existance. To them tolerance is a means to an end, namely peace and justice, etc. Just like murdering people works against the ends of justice, but executing a murderer does not. So just as the principle that regards homicide as unacceptable is suspended when dealing with the wontonly homicidal, so the principle of tolerance is suspended in dealing with those who are violently intolerant. Or just trollishly so, in cyberplaces like the NS Forums.

But of course you use the excruciatingly sophomoric rhetorical tactic of seizing on the definitions of one or more relevant terms used in the debate and asserting that only the definitions that you can use to support your views are valid definitions for those words. Also adjectives by which your opponent's refer to themselves are taken as having to be exhibitted at the extremes of their most extreme definitions 100% of the time by the speakers or else said speakers are certainly damned liars, and no one with a brain can fail to see that. By doing so it's possible to take statements such as, for an example, "I believe in peace" and use them to assert that the speaker is a moron &/or a gutless coward because he MUST then take no violent action if, say, his sister is being raped.

This rather juvenile bit of sophistry is very frustrating to most people who are either too slow to realize just what you're doing, or who resent the fact that such people often do get sucked up in such pseudo-reason, or both.

More on tolerance: like homicide, intolerence has its place. As you can now, from your current position, appreciate. If you don't (I have my doubts) then look around at all the pro- and anti-con/Dem/lib/Rep posts in this Forum. The fact that no one has been deleted for merely expressing their opinions, even with great animosity, is evidence of tolerance. The fact that flaming and baiting after repeated warnings, hate speach, advocacy of presidential assassination, etc., are not tolerated is evidence of the limits of tolerence.

Like executing a murderer. Try to wrap your pretty little white mind around that, if it will fit.

And btw yes there is lesstolerance here than in public, outside of public institutions like schools. We are not citizens here. We are beneficiaries of a privately owned free service.



Why Waste Another Vote On the Old Coke-or Pepsi Party
Waste Your Vote On Me

- Rev. A.J. Harris

Basically I mean emotionally abuse a young kid and they'll be a mirror image of the abuser.... Which probably explains why there are so many leftists today.

Well someone needs to fight the cancer on society that people like you are.

My thoughts exactly. By his logic, i'm left wing, so I must have been abused as a child...wtf?

I don't have a problem with nazi's adopting children, but only if the child is black, asian, jewish or whatever.

Maybe they'll realise that there is no problem with them. But I doubt it.

Well, I think the Nazi are easy scapegoats for a lot of problems. When you look at World War II, the Germans were probably about as justified as us. We completely destroyed two whole towns just to get our enemy to surrender, which is not much better than moving people to organized camps to kill them. I don't think any group or party is evil, but it's convenient to make them so. So, yes, they should be allowed to adopt. (in my opinion).

You should really do some research into Japanese culture.

The atomic bombs were used to kick some sense into them, they would've kept on fighting until every last one of them were dead otherwise.

Many Allied forces and Japanese forces would've lost their lives if not for those bombs.

That is true

However, now everyone's got nukes. Greaaaaaaaaat.

That is true

However, now everyone's got nukes. Greaaaaaaaaat.

This is true, but it would've happened sooner or later.

Hitler was close to having them.

True again.

Like I always say: science will always be the military's whore :p

True again.

Like I always say: science will always be the military's whore :p

Agreed.

I was hoping this thread would be about whether people should be allowed to adopt Nazis. You know, as conversation pieces or naked-slave-boys or something. It seems my life is one disappointment after another...

This post has been edited to avoid redundancy. I will now entertain you with a sexy dance.

*entertains you with a sexy dance*

Well, I think the Nazi are easy scapegoats for a lot of problems. When you look at World War II, the Germans were probably about as justified as us. We completely destroyed two whole towns just to get our enemy to surrender, which is not much better than moving people to organized camps to kill them. I don't think any group or party is evil, but it's convenient to make them so. So, yes, they should be allowed to adopt. (in my opinion).

hmm... destroying the cities of a genocidal war machine government is ALMOST as bad as being one... that's good to know. :roll:
The cities I think being refered to were in Japan, and different from the west as they were they were hardly 'genocidal'. To me the A bombs were not as bad as the deliberate low level fire bombing of Japanese residential centres. Also the use of two bombs appears excessive, and could the first not have been dropped on an area or isalnd with nil or very small population, just to demonstrate the power?
Saying all this it is easy to look bad with the benefit of hind sight and judge, when at the time these were very hard choices to make.
On to adoption. If you claim to be a free land then the political leanings or religion of adaptive parents should never be a consideration. If you are a centerist nation that has a declared political bias then yep go ahead and discriminate.

Japan may not have had gas chambers but they were definitely racist to the point of genocide... just ask the Chinese and the Koreans. Japanese racial superiority is still strongly believed in. Rather than taking people on trains to gas chambers to die, they took them on forced marches which killed most of them on the way to their camps. They also had camps organized for the rape of captive women by their officers.

OK, targetting heavily civilian areas of an evil racist conquering power MAY be almost as bad as being one. But let's add to the equation that the Axis were doing the same. Equality PLUS genocide on one side. Please do not bother us with exaggerated comparisons.