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I think people Have differing Definitions on the war on terror. Generally conservatives Tend to think of it as an Idealogical crusade against the concept of terror, and "Liberals" tend to think of it as A war Agaisnt Al Qeada. This isnt helped By Ambiguity in Language from the Whitehouse.

What do you think the war on terror should be for.

Personally. All I see the war on terror as being is an Excuse used by Bodgy governments around the world to justify their acts against Legitimate resistance groups. Generally its a tool of government oppression, rather than a liberating force. Of course they would have been doing this anyway. But still the Coalition supports them in it.

Its a tough question to address. I think that you have to address cultural relativity when doing so as well as undountedly the war on terror means different things in different places. In Russia for instance and it is definitely a slogan to defend repression of diversity and this is probably the case in China and in Central Asia as well. In the US though, the home of the war on terror, I see it as an ideological project aimed at constructing evil. The goal of this of course is to reinforce American belief systems as the oppposite of evil. In doing this, a replacement is being created for the cold war which no longer acts as a unifying object of identitfication for the American psyche.

Al qaeda is one group of terrorists.

When you crack down on gangs, you don't just go after the crips, you go after the bloods to.

We need to send terrorists the message that terrorism doesn't work. Liberals sure don't help us convey that message. That message will be the only thing that stops terrorism, other than action against their sources and leaders.

The WOT is a way for the government to justify imperialism.

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Al qaeda is one group of terrorists.

When you crack down on gangs, you don't just go after the crips, you go after the bloods to.

We need to send terrorists the message that terrorism doesn't work. Liberals sure don't help us convey that message. That message will be the only thing that stops terrorism, other than action against their sources and leaders.

Violent response will not solve the problem of terrorism. To use an analogy, you dont often see firemen fighting fire by pouring oil on the source do you. The only way to show that terrorism does not work is to turn the other cheek and pick up the pices afterwards. Might be painfull in the short term because vengeance is a powerful motive. I hate to use cliche but an eye for an eye does make the whole world blind.

Al qaeda is one group of terrorists.

When you crack down on gangs, you don't just go after the crips, you go after the bloods to.

We need to send terrorists the message that terrorism doesn't work. Liberals sure don't help us convey that message. That message will be the only thing that stops terrorism, other than action against their sources and leaders.

Violent response will not solve the problem of terrorism. To use an analogy, you dont often see firemen fighting fire by pouring oil on the source do you. The only way to show that terrorism does not work is to turn the other cheek and pick up the pices afterwards. Might be painfull in the short term because vengeance is a powerful motive. I hate to use cliche but an eye for an eye does make the whole world blind.Yes, but the only alternative is appeasement... and the only thing terrorists want is our death. How exactly do you negotiate with someone who has been brainwashed into hating democracy, and brainwashed into thinking that if he blows himself up on his enemies, he'll be guaranteed 72 virgins in heaven? Seriously, if I were brainwashed that bad, you'd HAVE to kill me to stop me.

I tend to think of the War on Terror as Operation Iraki Liberation(O.I.L.)

Yes, but the only alternative is appeasement... and the only thing terrorists want is our death. How exactly do you negotiate with someone who has been brainwashed into hating democracy, and brainwashed into thinking that if he blows himself up on his enemies, he'll be guaranteed 72 virgins in heaven? Seriously, if I were brainwashed that bad, you'd HAVE to kill me to stop me.

Shut up you right wing theist.

[quote="Trotterstan"][quote=Raysian Military Tech]Yes, but the only alternative is appeasement... and the only thing terrorists want is our death. How exactly do you negotiate with someone who has been brainwashed into hating democracy, and brainwashed into thinking that if he blows himself up on his enemies, he'll be guaranteed 72 virgins in heaven? Seriously, if I were brainwashed that bad, you'd HAVE to kill me to stop me.

Ahem, there is also something called rehabilitation.

Your topic reads war on terra. So basicially people are either fighting on land or fighting against the land? Dude spelling errors really kill a topic, at least they do when they're in the topic title.

I thought this thread would be about Terra Matsu :(

I thought this thread would be about Terra Matsu :(

hehe, so did i.

Who was it that said, "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter?"

Who was it that said, "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter?"

Several people have said it, including someone on the last James Bond movie.

I'm not sure who the person who made it famous was.

Who was it that said, "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter?"
That couldn't be more true.

Yes, but the only alternative is appeasement... and the only thing terrorists want is our death. How exactly do you negotiate with someone who has been brainwashed into hating democracy, and brainwashed into thinking that if he blows himself up on his enemies, he'll be guaranteed 72 virgins in heaven? Seriously, if I were brainwashed that bad, you'd HAVE to kill me to stop me.

Shut up you right wing theist.
another intelligent response from that intelligent mind.

I thought "war on terra" was a pretty clever pun.. you know, it's the war on terror but said war is also a war on earth in general, because it's counter productive. You can tell it's counter productive by the way the east has been destabilising since the US invaded Afghanistan.

Actually the US tends to be damn good at destabilising the east. As I recall, they were/are responsible for the existence of Israel, what with giving them all that cash and the guns and stuff, oh and egging on the other powers to recognise it as a country.

I dont know, his statement was pretty unimpressive.
And cyper if you dont make the connection, well.....try harder. I intentionally mispelled it

EDit: whoops, anyway. I dont agree that anything else is appeasement. For a start the full blown Military style is full blown idiocy, at least if your not a raytheon stockholder and I wont hear of it any other way. You can still get guys with guns running around arresting and assasinating terrorists, but starting up an actual dialouge would undermine the terrorists support base. Instead of Arabia getting their news from gossip, they could get it from, well, Western gossip as well.

Hmm I could probably elaborate more skillfully, but I'd rather sleep. See Ya'll in hell AKA: about 16 hours.

The USA needs to handle the threat either by completely occupying most of the areas where they supply themselves or completely destroying those areas, simple as that. Completing the war on terror and making it productive will be very expensive and time consuming. We should brace for an era not unlike what the cold war was, except a whole lot more violent.

The war on "terror" for me is fighting those that would rather live without freedom and die to protect their right to live without democracy than to live with it and to go after those who do live it, because they can't conceive it.

Did anybody understand that, or is time for me to go to bed?

The war on "terror" for me is fighting those that would rather live without freedom and die to protect their right to live without democracy than to live with it and to go after those who do live it, because they can't conceive it.

Did anybody understand that, or is time for me to go to bed?

Definately time for bed. You see Sleep deprivation breaks you down and makes you suseptible to Reprogramming.

The war on "terror" for me is fighting those that would rather live without freedom and die to protect their right to live without democracy than to live with it and to go after those who do live it, because they can't conceive it.



I think I Understand, i just dont agree. People do not 'prefer to live without freedom' they just have an alternate view of what freedom means.

She was being sarcastic. Really sarcastic.

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