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Cowards, you talk about Reagan AFTER he dies

Colodia
06-06-2004, 06:13
Do you not have anything better to do than to be disrespectful to a great President AFTER he dies? One who suffered Alzheimers (sp) disease? One who pushed passed his 90's? One of the only good Republicans I've ever seen?

Apparently not.

What happened to Bush? Not good enough for you anymore? No, you gotta diss the man who beat his way out of the Cold War, instead of the man who got us into Iraq almost needlessly.

Great. And I thought NS General's morals were declining BEFORE.
Anyways, it's not a matter of whether you agreed with him as a President or not. It's being respectful to a dead man and his family. Just as you (I hope) would do if an Iraqi died. Or a Brit. Or a Canadian. Or a French.
Mutant Dogs
06-06-2004, 06:14
Do you not have anything better to do than to be disrespectful to a great President AFTER he dies? One who suffered Alzheimers (sp) disease? One who pushed passed his 90's? One of the only good Republicans I've ever seen?

Apparently not.

What happened to Bush? Not good enough for you anymore? No, you gotta diss the man who beat his way out of the Cold War, instead of the man who got us into Iraq almost needlessly.

Great. And I thought NS General's morals were declining BEFORE.
Anyways, it's not a matter of whether you agreed with him as a President or not. It's being respectful to a dead man and his family. Just as you (I hope) would do if an Iraqi died. Or a Brit. Or a Canadian. Or a French.

Too true 8)
Demonic Furbies
06-06-2004, 06:14
Do you not have anything better to do than to be disrespectful to a great President AFTER he dies? One who suffered Alzheimers (sp) disease? One who pushed passed his 90's? One of the only good Republicans I've ever seen?

Apparently not.

What happened to Bush? Not good enough for you anymore? No, you gotta diss the man who beat his way out of the Cold War, instead of the man who got us into Iraq almost needlessly.

Great. And I thought NS General's morals were declining BEFORE.
Anyways, it's not a matter of whether you agreed with him as a President or not. It's being respectful to a dead man and his family. Just as you (I hope) would do if an Iraqi died. Or a Brit. Or a Canadian. Or a French.
*applauds* (sp?)
Nitro Records
06-06-2004, 06:14
Don't look at me, I was busy celebrating Smarty Jones' loss in the Belmont. I even made a thread about it!
New Foxxinnia
06-06-2004, 06:16
Damn Colodia. For being 13 you're pretty insightful.
Colodia
06-06-2004, 06:16
Damn Colodia. For being 13 you're pretty insightful.

really? thanks
Mutant Dogs
06-06-2004, 06:17
Damn Colodia. For being 13 you're pretty insightful.

really? thanks

*Shakes head*
Colodia
06-06-2004, 06:18
Damn Colodia. For being 13 you're pretty insightful.

really? thanks

*Shakes head*

we SERIOUSLY need that talk
Tactical Grace
06-06-2004, 06:18
He was a mediocrity before, now he is a dead one. He leaves no legacy other than a frightening lack of energy security. [Moves on]
New Foxxinnia
06-06-2004, 06:19
I've already had that talk.
Mutant Dogs
06-06-2004, 06:19
Damn Colodia. For being 13 you're pretty insightful.

really? thanks

*Shakes head*

we SERIOUSLY need that talk

*Trembles in ph34r*
Pantylvania
06-06-2004, 06:21
are you implying that dying made him a better person? I criticized him before he died. I'll continue to criticize him just as frequently
Colodia
06-06-2004, 06:23
are you implying that dying made him a better person? I criticized him before he died. I'll continue to criticize him just as frequently
no, it's that I'm seeing a lack of respect for a dead man.

That's the problem.

No respect.

I can only pray if this is how people act if their own grandfathers or parents die.
Pantylvania
06-06-2004, 06:26
though I'm still gonna criticize his decisions as president, that's in no way a celebration that he died. There could in some way be a celebration that his suffering is over
Tayricht
06-06-2004, 06:26
are you implying that dying made him a better person? I criticized him before he died. I'll continue to criticize him just as frequently
no, it's that I'm seeing a lack of respect for a dead man.

That's the problem.

No respect.

I can only pray if this is how people act if their own grandfathers or parents die.

So you ARE implying dying made him a better person.

He sold weapons to South American death squads, and pushed the FCC like a drug on radio and television. Dead or alive, he was not a great person, and we don't have to "Respect" him if we don't want to. Just because he's dead doesn't mean we give more respect.

I Respect him as a human life, and i give condolences to his family, but nothing more.
Anbar
06-06-2004, 06:37
There's a certain amount of irreverence on this board (well, and the internet as a whole), and I chalk it up to that. I've been avoiding the Reagan-bashing that began almost as soon as news of his death was posted. It just seemed tasteless...that said...

People have been bashing and wishing death on Reagan since he was in office. This is not a new attitude somehow connected to Bush, and in fact, people seem to have had the same feelings for Reagan as they do for Bush now - some want him enshrined, others wanted him buried up to his neck in an anthill. This attitude certainly is nothing new, and the rash of postings we've seen is likely just the rekindling of that same dislike for the man and what he did. Reagan was in office from before I was a zygote to when I was seven years old, so I have none of these animosities and am treating it as if any other famous person died - with passing interest and apathy.
Red Guard Revisionists
06-06-2004, 06:40
i hadn't really thought about reagan in a long time, his dying just reminded me how much i used to hate him.
MKULTRA
06-06-2004, 06:43
Do you not have anything better to do than to be disrespectful to a great President AFTER he dies? One who suffered Alzheimers (sp) disease? One who pushed passed his 90's? One of the only good Republicans I've ever seen?

Apparently not.

What happened to Bush? Not good enough for you anymore? No, you gotta diss the man who beat his way out of the Cold War, instead of the man who got us into Iraq almost needlessly.

Great. And I thought NS General's morals were declining BEFORE.
Anyways, it's not a matter of whether you agreed with him as a President or not. It's being respectful to a dead man and his family. Just as you (I hope) would do if an Iraqi died. Or a Brit. Or a Canadian. Or a French.I spoke bad about Reagan when he was alive too--as if anyone was a afraid of that senile old fool
Free Soviets
06-06-2004, 07:12
Anyways, it's not a matter of whether you agreed with him as a President or not. It's being respectful to a dead man and his family. Just as you (I hope) would do if an Iraqi died. Or a Brit. Or a Canadian. Or a French.

some people don't deserve respect, even in death. if i was alive at the time i'd have had a party when franco died. and when pinochet dies i will disrespect him to the best of my ability.
MKULTRA
06-06-2004, 07:14
didnt people say mean things when Mr Scrooge died too?
Free Soviets
06-06-2004, 07:21
some people don't deserve respect, even in death. if i was alive at the time i'd have had a party when franco died. and when pinochet dies i will disrespect him to the best of my ability.

oh yeah, and kissinger. can't forget about captain crimesagainsthumanity himself.
Raysian Military Tech
06-06-2004, 07:22
you guys all got after me and Colodia for making fun of the wedding party bombing, and now the same people mock Reagan's death.

Hypocrites.
Soviet Haaregrad
06-06-2004, 07:24
Do you not have anything better to do than to be disrespectful to a great President AFTER he dies? One who suffered Alzheimers (sp) disease? One who pushed passed his 90's? One of the only good Republicans I've ever seen?

Apparently not.

What happened to Bush? Not good enough for you anymore? No, you gotta diss the man who beat his way out of the Cold War, instead of the man who got us into Iraq almost needlessly.

Great. And I thought NS General's morals were declining BEFORE.
Anyways, it's not a matter of whether you agreed with him as a President or not. It's being respectful to a dead man and his family. Just as you (I hope) would do if an Iraqi died. Or a Brit. Or a Canadian. Or a French.

Most of the people talking bad about Reagan did it when he was alive too.
MKULTRA
06-06-2004, 07:24
you guys all got after me and Colodia for making fun of the wedding party bombing, and now the same people mock Reagan's death.

Hypocrites.people who died in the wedding party bombing were INNOCENT--thats the difference
Rotovia
06-06-2004, 07:24
So what, because he's dead we cannot comment on his ability as a leader? Perhaps we should burn all history text books before it happens again.
Raysian Military Tech
06-06-2004, 07:26
you guys all got after me and Colodia for making fun of the wedding party bombing, and now the same people mock Reagan's death.

Hypocrites.people who died in the wedding party bombing were INNOCENT--thats the differenceAnd Reagan was one of the best presidents we ever had. Nothing about him deserves anything along the lines of a darwin award. he lived an honorable life.
MKULTRA
06-06-2004, 07:28
you guys all got after me and Colodia for making fun of the wedding party bombing, and now the same people mock Reagan's death.

Hypocrites.people who died in the wedding party bombing were INNOCENT--thats the differenceAnd Reagan was one of the best presidents we ever had. Nothing about him deserves anything along the lines of a darwin award. he lived an honorable life.and to others of us who study history he was a monster with charisma who committed crimes against humanity
RootWallas
06-06-2004, 07:29
you know there's a reason we honor life... it's cause the dead already get all their honor in HISTORY BOOKS. They don't need anymore.. bloddy respecting the dead is only saying that you want them to live again(and why the heck do we want another bloddy bad republican to be alive again) ... let go of the past .. stop respecting the dead.. and respect the living and their desire to live

.. aka.. down with bush and down w/ the warz.. the guy who said to have peace we must war was probably related to Bush somehow...

(i'm sure the people who died in that wedding party bombing WEREN'T innocent... i'm sure that most of you republicans are very religious.. and being that.... remember how we're all born sinful!? :-P eat your own words there's no such thing as an innocent human being)
Raysian Military Tech
06-06-2004, 07:29
you guys all got after me and Colodia for making fun of the wedding party bombing, and now the same people mock Reagan's death.

Hypocrites.people who died in the wedding party bombing were INNOCENT--thats the differenceAnd Reagan was one of the best presidents we ever had. Nothing about him deserves anything along the lines of a darwin award. he lived an honorable life.and to others of us who study history he was a monster with charisma who committed crimes against humanityYes, how evil of him to order the berlin all torn down, and end the cold war, and fight the war on drugs and all that...
Raysian Military Tech
06-06-2004, 07:33
you know there's a reason we honor life... it's cause the dead already get all their honor in HISTORY BOOKS. They don't need anymore.. bloddy respecting the dead is only saying that you want them to live again(and why the heck do we want another bloddy bad republican to be alive again) ... let go of the past .. stop respecting the dead.. and respect the living and their desire to live

.. aka.. down with bush and down w/ the warz.. the guy who said to have peace we must war was probably related to Bush somehow...

(i'm sure the people who died in that wedding party bombing WEREN'T innocent... i'm sure that most of you republicans are very religious.. and being that.... remember how we're all born sinful!? :-P eat your own words there's no such thing as an innocent human being)It's not simply because he's dead... lots of people are dead... it's all in the past... but the thing is, this happened like a few hours ago. There's a respectful ammount of time you're supposed to wait before you go dance on his grave.
Shinoxia
06-06-2004, 07:37
And just so other people know, at least 75% of the US really loved Reagan, those who don't are anti-american and a communist...
The Mavs
06-06-2004, 07:38
Reagan was a cool guy
RootWallas
06-06-2004, 07:41
right.. there goes the purely republican sentiment of calling anyone who didn't want a republican president .. an anti-american and a communist.. ... how bloddy typical

.. (on a side note.. it's interesting how Regan died after Smarty Jones lost... .. if at all.. blame Birdstone for Regan's death .. not anti-american communists)
Insane Troll
06-06-2004, 07:42
right.. there goes the purely republican sentiment of calling anyone who didn't want a republican president .. an anti-american and a communist.. ... how bloddy typical

.. (on a side note.. it's interesting how Regan died after Smarty Jones lost... .. if at all.. blame Birdstone for Regan's death .. not anti-american communists)

Easy there, come back after you get a grasp on that whole sarcasm thing.
The Mavs
06-06-2004, 07:44
[quote=Free Soviets]some people don't deserve respect, even in death. if i was alive at the time i'd have had a party when franco died. and when pinochet dies i will disrespect him to the best of my ability.

ur pretty mean mr free soviets dude
MKULTRA
06-06-2004, 07:45
you guys all got after me and Colodia for making fun of the wedding party bombing, and now the same people mock Reagan's death.

Hypocrites.people who died in the wedding party bombing were INNOCENT--thats the differenceAnd Reagan was one of the best presidents we ever had. Nothing about him deserves anything along the lines of a darwin award. he lived an honorable life.and to others of us who study history he was a monster with charisma who committed crimes against humanityYes, how evil of him to order the berlin all torn down, and end the cold war, and fight the war on drugs and all that...so you win the war on drugs by tearing families apart and torturing people who committed victimless "crimes" in rape rooms called jails?theyve spent billions on the fake war on drugs for decades and it has been a total failure and just resulted in many destroyed lives--kinda like Veitnam--plus you forget to mention all the thousands of innocents Reagan murdered abroad with rightwing death squads--I fail to see how Reagan was any better then the worst communist butcher btw
RootWallas
06-06-2004, 07:46
right.. sarcasm..

i USED to be a regan-ist .. until i read some history texts (when i was like 14) about all the disgusting stuff he did in office.. it's just not the whole deal w/ republicans... we've just had a whole entire slew of bad presidents.. none of which deserve to be honored :-P.. us economy's fallen .. and falling... thanks to the current president .. all i'm saying is give us democrats a chance... (and someone PLEASE tell the green party that all they're doing is helping republicans be elected into office)
Insane Troll
06-06-2004, 07:46
In all fairness, I bad-mouthed Reagan when he was still alive as well.

My feelings about him shouldn't change just because the bastard croaked.
MKULTRA
06-06-2004, 07:48
And just so other people know, at least 75% of the US really loved Reagan, those who don't are anti-american and a communist...those who didnt love Reagan actually KNOW politics--the 75% of the people who are compleat political ignoramuses love Reagan based on irrational emotions and media manipulation
MKULTRA
06-06-2004, 07:49
Reagan was a cool guyyeah now that hes dead
Insane Troll
06-06-2004, 07:50
Reagan was a cool guyyeah now that hes dead

lol
RootWallas
06-06-2004, 07:50
Reagan was a cool guyyeah now that hes dead

right on. besides.. he was a republican.. ... i wish bush would hurry up and croak.. maybe it'll stop the useless throwing away of lives against the fake terrorist threats... reminds me so much of the fake war on drugs
MKULTRA
06-06-2004, 07:51
Reagan was a cool guyyeah now that hes dead

lolsorry couldnt resist :lol:
MKULTRA
06-06-2004, 07:52
Reagan was a cool guyyeah now that hes dead

right on. besides.. he was a republican.. ... i wish bush would hurry up and croak.. maybe it'll stop the useless throwing away of lives against the fake terrorist threats... reminds me so much of the fake war on drugsour current crop of politicians should all be lynched
RootWallas
06-06-2004, 07:53
Reagan was a cool guyyeah now that hes dead

right on. besides.. he was a republican.. ... i wish bush would hurry up and croak.. maybe it'll stop the useless throwing away of lives against the fake terrorist threats... reminds me so much of the fake war on drugsour current crop of politicians should all be lynched

you think if we make smarty jones lose another race... bush would croak? :twisted: .. g'night all :-P it's bloddy too late

(and damn the bush family all to hell)
Squi
06-06-2004, 07:54
I mourn the passing of a previous great American tradition a few years ao and hope that ths event will allow for a revival of it in a modified form. I refer to that great woman who used to make an annual pilgrimage on the aniversery of his death to the grave of FDR to "[m]ake sure that he's still dead." Surely some generous person can make this same effort on behalf of Ronnie Raygun. If possible they should try to attend the funeral so they "[c]an be sure he's really dead."
BackwoodsSquatches
06-06-2004, 09:06
Ronnie....

Hem...

Where do you begin..?

Better not to, maybe.
After all the man did do some good, but had some crucial errors to his line of thinking as well.
I think the best thing to say is that if nothing else, he was a man who did the best, for what he believed in, even if his methods were not always the best themselves.
Free Soviets
06-06-2004, 09:06
some people don't deserve respect, even in death. if i was alive at the time i'd have had a party when franco died. and when pinochet dies i will disrespect him to the best of my ability.

ur pretty mean mr free soviets dude

check out some of the shit that franco and pinochet are guilty of. we're talking mass-murder, 'disapperances', ridiculous political repression, etc. fuck them. and fuck ronnie raygun and his terrorist funding, mass-murder sponsoring, union busting, black listing ways. respect those that deserve respect.
Colodia
06-06-2004, 09:41
Reagan was a cool guyyeah now that hes dead

lolsorry couldnt resist :lol:
your a laugh and a half! :roll:
Colodia
06-06-2004, 09:44
So remind me again, why we pity the deaths of Iraqis while we're making jokes and celebrating the death of a diseased man?
BackwoodsSquatches
06-06-2004, 09:50
So remind me again, why we pity the deaths of Iraqis while we're making jokes and celebrating the death of a diseased man?

Becuase people generally suck, young man.

Theyre often petty ansd stupid as well.

Im not a Reagan fan...
But I was raised to have respect for the dead.
Mutant Dogs
06-06-2004, 09:51
GO THE SQUATCH!

GOGOOOOOO! :shock:
Colodia
06-06-2004, 09:51
So remind me again, why we pity the deaths of Iraqis while we're making jokes and celebrating the death of a diseased man?

Becuase people generally suck, young man.

Theyre often petty ansd stupid as well.

Im not a Reagan fan...
But I was raised to have respect for the dead.

and I think this topic shows petty and stupidity in it's most powerful form.

I'd ask for a lock. But I have other plans for this topic.
BackwoodsSquatches
06-06-2004, 09:53
GO THE SQUATCH!

GOGOOOOOO! :shock:

Word.
Lithuanighanistania
06-06-2004, 10:01
The fact being, he is dead. Like him or not, respect him or not, he's gone. The only thing about criticizing him at this point in time is that it's tasteless and tacky. I personally didn't hold an opinion of him either way. He brought about an end to the Cold war, though to say that he "fought" for that end is a somewhat ambiguous statement within itself. He sold weapons to terrible people for no apparent reason other than wanting to see what would happen if he did.

Just let it go people.
06-06-2004, 10:06
I was dissin Regan WAY before he was dead. You'd have to have alzheimers to believe that kind of economic policy. Or just have a vested interest in it.
Catholic Europe
06-06-2004, 10:17
So it is true. I heard on the radio in a taxi last night that he had died but I wasn't quite sure who they had said.
Lithuanighanistania
06-06-2004, 10:21
I'm in Japan, so I found out at noon today. I wasn't even listening. I turned over from the computer, and I just saw that President Reagan had died. I immediately wondered if the news station knew who the current president is, but apparentally...
Free Soviets
06-06-2004, 11:02
So remind me again, why we pity the deaths of Iraqis while we're making jokes and celebrating the death of a diseased man?

because iraqi civilians didn't do anything that killed hundreds or thousands of people or that made life worse for millions.
Whittier
06-06-2004, 11:04
Reagan was America's longest lived President and the world's governments are now in agreement that he was the greatest American President in world history. His death is sending shock waves around the world.
Republic Flanders
06-06-2004, 11:06
Why shouldn't they be allowed to talk about him just because he's dead? Hitler and Stalin are dead, too.
Whittier
06-06-2004, 11:07
Why shouldn't they be allowed to talk about him just because he's dead? Hitler and Stalin are dead, too.
Reagan cannot be compared to those two. And the fact that you making the comparison makes you evil.
Republic Flanders
06-06-2004, 11:08
I did not compare him to them. They just happen to be dead as well.
Greater Valia
06-06-2004, 11:09
this is digusting. how can you people have the intestinal fortitude to mock, and make jokes over the passing of the last great american president. this is sick, and just..... wrong. :cry:
Mutant Dogs
06-06-2004, 11:11
this is digusting. how can you people have the intestinal fortitude to mock, and make jokes over the passing of the last great american president. this is sick, and just..... wrong. :cry:

:shock: A soft spot
Free Soviets
06-06-2004, 11:13
Why shouldn't they be allowed to talk about him just because he's dead? Hitler and Stalin are dead, too.
Reagan cannot be compared to those two. And the fact that you making the comparison makes you evil.

yeah, there weren't nearly enough people in central america for him to have killed in order to join their illustrious ranks.
Tsorfinn
06-06-2004, 11:14
you know there's a reason we honor life... it's cause the dead already get all their honor in HISTORY BOOKS. They don't need anymore.. bloddy respecting the dead is only saying that you want them to live again(and why the heck do we want another bloddy bad republican to be alive again) ... let go of the past .. stop respecting the dead.. and respect the living and their desire to live

.. aka.. down with bush and down w/ the warz.. the guy who said to have peace we must war was probably related to Bush somehow...

(i'm sure the people who died in that wedding party bombing WEREN'T innocent... i'm sure that most of you republicans are very religious.. and being that.... remember how we're all born sinful!? :-P eat your own words there's no such thing as an innocent human being)

a) I'm pretty sure it's not the REPUBLICANS who are criticizing the
Wedding Party Bombing... :? If it's the one where the army blew s**t out of a wedding party which was firing upwards into the air - perhaps a foolish thing to do under the circumstances, but nonetheless a horrible thing to have happen, and they were most likely innocent i.e. they found a dead wedding party, a destroyed cake with (whatever the equivalent of) a bride and groom on top and - lo and behold! - NO TERRORISTS!

b) With regards to Reagan's death, I, too, will not see him as, necessarily, a nice man. He was a human being who died, and this is a sad thing. When I was a child, I thought he was all right, but I was a child and didn't know anything about politics - just his images in movies in the 80s etc. He was better than some, not as good as others.
But I'm not going to revise history just because someone died.
GDI 2000
06-06-2004, 11:14
Reagen made the soviet union capitulate to demands and everything. He shouldn't have been allowed to have been born. You Americans worship him,he won us the cold war and everything, Communist and the CCCP still regin, the soviet union never truly collapsed. And the cold war was started by the Americans so they can't say anything dammit. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Colodia
06-06-2004, 11:15
Reagen made the soviet union capitulate to demands and everything. He shouldn't have been allowed to have been born. You Americans worship him,he won us the cold war and everything, Communist and the CCCP still regin, the soviet union never truly collapsed. And the cold war was started by the Americans so they can't say anything dammit. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Yes, we took over half of Europe and claimed it for our own under a dictatorship that spreaded over half of Asia and spreaded in Europe.

(I love it when people use puppets)
Mutant Dogs
06-06-2004, 11:18
*Is back in the SSA*
Republic Flanders
06-06-2004, 11:18
Reagen made the soviet union capitulate to demands and everything. He shouldn't have been allowed to have been born. You Americans worship him,he won us the cold war and everything, Communist and the CCCP still regin, the soviet union never truly collapsed. And the cold war was started by the Americans so they can't say anything dammit. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

On May 1, 2004, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Czech Republic, Slovenia, Malta, Cyprus, Hungaria and Slovakia joined the EU. The Soviet Union is dead.
Huzen Hagen
06-06-2004, 11:19
No, you gotta diss the man who beat his way out of the Cold War

Though i havent been involved in any of the president bashing that the general forum is almost entirely made up of Reagan ended detente and drasticly increased tensions between the Soviet Union and the US. Reagan had nothing to do with ending of the cold war as the west didn't even see it coming
Greater Valia
06-06-2004, 11:19
Reagen made the soviet union capitulate to demands and everything. He shouldn't have been allowed to have been born. You Americans worship him,he won us the cold war and everything, Communist and the CCCP still regin, the soviet union never truly collapsed. And the cold war was started by the Americans so they can't say anything dammit. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


I laugh at your nonexistant knowlege of world history. (sp?)
Huzen Hagen
06-06-2004, 11:20
Reagen made the soviet union capitulate to demands and everything. He shouldn't have been allowed to have been born. You Americans worship him,he won us the cold war and everything, Communist and the CCCP still regin, the soviet union never truly collapsed. And the cold war was started by the Americans so they can't say anything dammit. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


I laugh at your nonexistant knowlege of world history. (sp?)

ditto
Colodia
06-06-2004, 11:20
Reagen made the soviet union capitulate to demands and everything. He shouldn't have been allowed to have been born. You Americans worship him,he won us the cold war and everything, Communist and the CCCP still regin, the soviet union never truly collapsed. And the cold war was started by the Americans so they can't say anything dammit. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


I laugh at your nonexistant knowlege of world history. (sp?)

ditto
i second that ditto
GDI 2000
06-06-2004, 11:21
no one in the west would understand, Russia has the world largest armed forces, the worlds most sophisticated nuclear weapons system and armed forces. The Soviet Union will return more powerful than ever and this time The world will become 1 with communism true almighty power
Greater Valia
06-06-2004, 11:22
no one in the west would understand, Russia has the world largest armed forces, the worlds most sophisticated nuclear weapons system and armed forces. The Soviet Union will return more powerful than ever and this time The world will become 1 with communism true almighty power

great scot! a russian from twenty years ago is talking to us through a time warp!
Whittier
06-06-2004, 11:22
Reagen made the soviet union capitulate to demands and everything. He shouldn't have been allowed to have been born. You Americans worship him,he won us the cold war and everything, Communist and the CCCP still regin, the soviet union never truly collapsed. And the cold war was started by the Americans so they can't say anything dammit. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


I laugh at your nonexistant knowlege of world history. (sp?)

ditto
Same here. Its a shame they don't teach history in the public schools anymore. They're probably too busy watching useless movies and having rap music parties.
Mutant Dogs
06-06-2004, 11:22
no one in the west would understand, Russia has the world largest armed forces, the worlds most sophisticated nuclear weapons system and armed forces. The Soviet Union will return more powerful than ever and this time The world will become 1 with communism true almighty power

Get your facts straight :roll:
Colodia
06-06-2004, 11:23
no one in the west would understand, Russia has the world largest armed forces, the worlds most sophisticated nuclear weapons system and armed forces. The Soviet Union will return more powerful than ever and this time The world will become 1 with communism true almighty power
My god....what is it with people hiding behind puppets and shouting stupid crap?

I hope it's a puppet
Huzen Hagen
06-06-2004, 11:23
no one in the west would understand, Russia has the world largest armed forces, the worlds most sophisticated nuclear weapons system and armed forces. The Soviet Union will return more powerful than ever and this time The world will become 1 with communism true almighty power

you are insane, the cold war ended because the SOviet Union was bankrupt. Therefore they couldnt even aford to continue to occupy the eastern block countrys. At the moment they are still an extreamly poor country and are no where near the level of military strength they held over 2 decades ago
Colodia
06-06-2004, 11:23
no one in the west would understand, Russia has the world largest armed forces, the worlds most sophisticated nuclear weapons system and armed forces. The Soviet Union will return more powerful than ever and this time The world will become 1 with communism true almighty power

great scot! a russian from twenty years ago is talking to us through a time warp!

:lol:
Whittier
06-06-2004, 11:24
no one in the west would understand, Russia has the world largest armed forces, the worlds most sophisticated nuclear weapons system and armed forces. The Soviet Union will return more powerful than ever and this time The world will become 1 with communism true almighty power
Get over it. Your time has come and gone and history has passed you by.
Kanabia
06-06-2004, 11:25
no one in the west would understand, Russia has the world largest armed forces, the worlds most sophisticated nuclear weapons system and armed forces. The Soviet Union will return more powerful than ever and this time The world will become 1 with communism true almighty power

great scot! a russian from twenty years ago is talking to us through a time warp!

LOL. Call of the day!
Republic Flanders
06-06-2004, 11:25
The only future of Russia is in Europe, or otherwise as a sad remainder of how horribly things can go wrong.
Mutant Dogs
06-06-2004, 11:25
Colodia don't do something like that again, without discussing it with the other members first. And don't lie.
Greater Valia
06-06-2004, 11:27
Colodia don't do something like that again, without discussing it with the other members first. And don't lie.

eh? what happened? is there a power struggle? :shock:
Mutant Dogs
06-06-2004, 11:28
Colodia don't do something like that again, without discussing it with the other members first. And don't lie.

eh? what happened? is there a power struggle? :shock:

I tricked the others on msn and Colodia took it a little too far. Tar fixed it out though.
Superpower07
06-06-2004, 11:48
Hey Colodia, when Reagan was ALIVE, I would OPENLY voice my RESPECT for him!!!!
GDI 2000
06-06-2004, 11:59
I just wanted to see your response to what i would say, of course communism is dead. The only way forward is any other way besides communism
Kanabia
06-06-2004, 13:15
I just wanted to see your response to what i would say, of course communism is dead. The only way forward is any other way besides communism

No, State-Capitalist dictatorship is dead. There are quite a few other ways forward but "any other way" is wrong.
Dragons Bay
06-06-2004, 13:40
*to imaginary critics*

dudes, the guy isn't dead for over a day yet. let history judge him. not you.
06-06-2004, 13:43
He may as well have been dead for 10 years now. He has been judged.
DontPissUsOff
06-06-2004, 14:20
Didn't like him one bit as a politician, and held not much affection for him as a man. It is undeniably sad however theat at end didn't even know his own wife - therefore if I were looking at Reagan as a poltician, would likely kick his headstone in disgust; looking at him as a man, I'd likely say "meh"; looking at him as a human being, I'd say, "you poor bastard."
Zeppistan
06-06-2004, 14:24
Do you not have anything better to do than to be disrespectful to a great President AFTER he dies? One who suffered Alzheimers (sp) disease? One who pushed passed his 90's? One of the only good Republicans I've ever seen?

Apparently not.

What happened to Bush? Not good enough for you anymore? No, you gotta diss the man who beat his way out of the Cold War, instead of the man who got us into Iraq almost needlessly.

Great. And I thought NS General's morals were declining BEFORE.
Anyways, it's not a matter of whether you agreed with him as a President or not. It's being respectful to a dead man and his family. Just as you (I hope) would do if an Iraqi died. Or a Brit. Or a Canadian. Or a French.

So - people can give unwarranted praise and pass that off as gospel - but not criticism for his failings?

I'm sorry, but I'm just not that hipocritical.

Death does not absolve him of his sins. Death does not mitigate his errors. I liked the guy, but I did not like his presidency. I said it then and I'll say it now. not that he did not do some good things while in office, but there was a lot of bad too.

I dunno - but it would seem that using your viewpoint on the passing of leaders becoming instantly untouchable that we should all now just praise Hitler for revitalizing the German economy and forget about the bad stuff....
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Free Outer Eugenia
06-06-2004, 14:49
En memoriam

http://www.markfiore.com/mad/reagan.gif
Lithuanighanistania
06-06-2004, 15:04
Reagan was America's longest lived President and the world's governments are now in agreement that he was the greatest American President in world history. His death is sending shock waves around the world.

I'd love to read those statements. I don't think he was the most terrible, but to call him the greatest ever is somewhat of an exageration.
Zeppistan
06-06-2004, 15:07
Reagan was America's longest lived President and the world's governments are now in agreement that he was the greatest American President in world history. His death is sending shock waves around the world.

I'd love to read those statements. I don't think he was the most terrible, but to call him the greatest ever is somewhat of an exageration.

A shock wave around the world?

LMFAO!

Yeah.... people are always shocked when a 93 year old with Alzheimers dies....
Zyzyx Road
06-06-2004, 15:30
I just can't understand the praise that this man gets.
Ashmoria
06-06-2004, 15:39
cowards?
so you think what? that we were afraid that the poor sick old man was gonna come kick our asses if we said something bad about him when he was alive?

im not at his funeral talking bad about him. i dont think that any of his family is reading this, if they are, i apologize to them for dissing their family member in their time of grief

i think YOU can take it

im not going to pretend that i think that reagan was a great man. i will never forgive him for letting our hostage ROT in lebanon while he arranged to sell arms to our enemies.

his death is not going to change that.

and yes, if it ever came up before he died i said the same thing. its just that one cannot keep their bitterness over events in the 80s in their mind at all times.
America the American
06-06-2004, 16:47
Do you not have anything better to do than to be disrespectful to a great President AFTER he dies? One who suffered Alzheimers (sp) disease? One who pushed passed his 90's? One of the only good Republicans I've ever seen?

Apparently not.

What happened to Bush? Not good enough for you anymore? No, you gotta diss the man who beat his way out of the Cold War, instead of the man who got us into Iraq almost needlessly.

Great. And I thought NS General's morals were declining BEFORE.
Anyways, it's not a matter of whether you agreed with him as a President or not. It's being respectful to a dead man and his family. Just as you (I hope) would do if an Iraqi died. Or a Brit. Or a Canadian. Or a French.

*applause*