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As I recall a repbulican got us into the deppresion (herbert hoover) and a democrat got us out (Rossovelt). And as I recall a two democrats led us in ww2. And a democrat led us in world war one, vietnam, and the civil war.

I also recall the repbulicans were against the civil rights movement. And are against gay marriage. Hey, what does that say how about KKK.

They are also against abortion, but after the child is brought into the world they refuse to spend a penny on welfare or social services.

Your idol's refuse to cure blindness, diabetes and alzheimers becuase they believe a cell in a petri dish is a "living creature"

All of you war-pigs go to hell. And as for our "soildiers" they should do the same. They're all future repbulicans so it's best they die too.

Look at the unemployment figures

http://pasdc.hbg.psu.edu/pasdc/Data_&_Information/Data/235a.html

So what are repbulicans? RACSIST, HOMOPHOBIC, WAR MONGERING, HYPOCRITIAL, BASTERDS. THAT WILL ROT IN HELL

Whoa man! Take a chill pill. Besides, Republicans must be doing something right, if half the voting population is registered as a Republican.

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This thread should be locked fast!



BTW, The Republicans pushed the civil rights act in the 60's thru congress. Later troll!

It was democrat Robert Byrd who is the only active congressman who ever served in KKK

Republicans are the only rational group in America the democrats are crazy

Republicans are the only rational group in America the democrats are crazy



Both are Crazy.

It was democrat Robert Byrd who is the only active congressman who ever served in KKK



Don't confuse him with the facts.

As I recall a repbulican got us into the deppresion (herbert hoover) and a democrat got us out (Rossovelt). And as I recall a two democrats led us in ww2. And a democrat led us in world war one, vietnam, and the civil war.

I also recall the repbulicans were against the civil rights movement. And are against gay marriage. Hey, what does that say how about KKK.

They are also against abortion, but after the child is brought into the world they refuse to spend a penny on welfare or social services.

Your idol's refuse to cure blindness, diabetes and alzheimers becuase they believe a cell in a petri dish is a "living creature"

All of you war-pigs go to hell. And as for our "soildiers" they should do the same. They're all future repbulicans so it's best they die too.

Look at the unemployment figures

http://pasdc.hbg.psu.edu/pasdc/Data_&_Information/Data/235a.html

So what are repbulicans? RACSIST, HOMOPHOBIC, WAR MONGERING, HYPOCRITIAL, BASTERDS. THAT WILL ROT IN HELL

Calm down you know you should try anger mangment therpy. It's for "special people" like you. No one will take you seriously if you spaz out and generilize about people. Basickly all you are doing is making yourself look like a moron with wayyyyyyy to many opinons. Also you are ranting and raving like a demented 2 year old. this is not kindigarden this is Nationstates. Please. Now go home while the adults talk politics.

Robert Byrd is a senile useless senator that should not be there. He says every republican in office is the worst in his memory he dont have enough memory to remember the last republican in office stupid democrats

Byrd quotes: Pretty, pretty, pretty
Wrong! wron, wron wrong!

Its people that think they are right so much that they use their opinion itself as an argument, are the people that *insert something that would make this post a flame*

Okay, if toned down a bit, I agree with most of the first guys statements, cept the last bit. Most people in the military that have served in a war quickly turn anti-war, so them joining the "war-mongering" republicans makes little sense. 2. Half of the nation is not registered Republican, in fact only 5% of the voting population is registered at all.

How dare you condem Americas fighting forces to Hell! If America was a damn Liberist nation hell we all be suffering now, and not being able to enjoy the freedom our nation has fought for so dearly!

Mr. Mod, Mod, Mr Golden Mod, please boot this sorry nation

and for what? I am just expressing opion, just like those people are celebrating the death of a great President! Witch is one of the most disloyal things Americans can do

I am disgusted and appalled by the initial poster of this thread. Before this day I was able to say that I didn't know any person who wished harm upon our fine military. I didn't know any person who would rejoice at the death of a soldier. Now I'm ashamed to see someone write just that. As a veteran it sickens me to see such. As a Democrat I would hope that the initial poster is just some ignorant child who hasn't seen enough of the world to know what he says. Even as such, that is no excuse for such behavior. It is derisive and shameful, no matter what the reason.

LEARN TO SPELL!!!

Republicans are the only rational group in America the democrats are crazy



Both are Crazy.

I agree with that.

The Radical Change Party is the only party with the people's interests at heart.

Thunderland, For being a Vetren, you have my respect and deapest loyalty, even if you are Democrat, I have lost 2 Uncles fighting for our great nations, and it sickens me to see those stuck up kids are dishonoring everything you and our nations forces are and have fought for.

I am disgusted and appalled by the initial poster of this thread. Before this day I was able to say that I didn't know any person who wished harm upon our fine military. I didn't know any person who would rejoice at the death of a soldier. Now I'm ashamed to see someone write just that. As a veteran it sickens me to see such. As a Democrat I would hope that the initial poster is just some ignorant child who hasn't seen enough of the world to know what he says. Even as such, that is no excuse for such behavior. It is derisive and shameful, no matter what the reason.

Here's two.

ANY man or woman in your 'army' is a prime target. They are combatants in unjust wars. They may be struck down anytime, anywhere.

I rejoice at the death of American and Israeli soldiers.

I am not a child. I am working to further the cause of change. Radical Change.

ya youll be celbrating when they come and kick your ass!

Democrats are crazy cowards who rather protect a tree than a human being.

Republican's are war-mongering, facist bastards that don't know how to handle money.

Who do you trust?

I am disgusted and appalled by the initial poster of this thread. Before this day I was able to say that I didn't know any person who wished harm upon our fine military. I didn't know any person who would rejoice at the death of a soldier. Now I'm ashamed to see someone write just that. As a veteran it sickens me to see such. As a Democrat I would hope that the initial poster is just some ignorant child who hasn't seen enough of the world to know what he says. Even as such, that is no excuse for such behavior. It is derisive and shameful, no matter what the reason.

Here's two.

ANY man or woman in your 'army' is a prime target. They are combatants in unjust wars. They may be struck down anytime, anywhere.

I rejoice at the death of American and Israeli soldiers.

I am not a child. I am working to further the cause of change. Radical Change.

And you wonder why the military has so many headcases. It's you punk college students telling them what they're doing is wrong! They're the ones doing it, I'll let them be the judge. You can't be ordered to do something illegal, and if you are, you can refuse that order.

In war, the civilian population is a target. The army does what a representative government orders it to. Since the average people have the power in a democracy then they should be prime targets, too. There is no such thing as a innocent civilian because they voted for the leaders that are ordering around the army you are fighting.

Oh well. . . Geneva convention sucks.

I am disgusted and appalled by the initial poster of this thread. Before this day I was able to say that I didn't know any person who wished harm upon our fine military. I didn't know any person who would rejoice at the death of a soldier. Now I'm ashamed to see someone write just that. As a veteran it sickens me to see such. As a Democrat I would hope that the initial poster is just some ignorant child who hasn't seen enough of the world to know what he says. Even as such, that is no excuse for such behavior. It is derisive and shameful, no matter what the reason.

Here's two.

ANY man or woman in your 'army' is a prime target. They are combatants in unjust wars. They may be struck down anytime, anywhere.

I rejoice at the death of American and Israeli soldiers.

I am not a child. I am working to further the cause of change. Radical Change.

You are working to further hatred, not to further the cause of change. You may rejoice at such death, but that only makes you hollow inside. There is no pride in seeing death. There is no pleasure in seeing one's "enemies" die.

Furthering the cause of change is bringing forth your good ideas to the people of the world. Not rejoicing in the death of others. To do such is only deepening the anger of everyone involved. It solves nothing.

Grow up and realize what you say before you speak.

I am disgusted and appalled by the initial poster of this thread. Before this day I was able to say that I didn't know any person who wished harm upon our fine military. I didn't know any person who would rejoice at the death of a soldier. Now I'm ashamed to see someone write just that. As a veteran it sickens me to see such. As a Democrat I would hope that the initial poster is just some ignorant child who hasn't seen enough of the world to know what he says. Even as such, that is no excuse for such behavior. It is derisive and shameful, no matter what the reason.

Here's two.

ANY man or woman in your 'army' is a prime target. They are combatants in unjust wars. They may be struck down anytime, anywhere.

I rejoice at the death of American and Israeli soldiers.

I am not a child. I am working to further the cause of change. Radical Change.

And you wonder why the military has so many headcases. It's you punk college students telling them what they're doing is wrong! They're the ones doing it, I'll let them be the judge. You can't be ordered to do something illegal, and if you are, you can refuse that order.

So far in the last 24 hours, I have been called:

A collage student,
A European,
An American,
A Democrat,
A kid.

All incorrect.

I am disgusted and appalled by the initial poster of this thread. Before this day I was able to say that I didn't know any person who wished harm upon our fine military. I didn't know any person who would rejoice at the death of a soldier. Now I'm ashamed to see someone write just that. As a veteran it sickens me to see such. As a Democrat I would hope that the initial poster is just some ignorant child who hasn't seen enough of the world to know what he says. Even as such, that is no excuse for such behavior. It is derisive and shameful, no matter what the reason.

Here's two.

ANY man or woman in your 'army' is a prime target. They are combatants in unjust wars. They may be struck down anytime, anywhere.

I rejoice at the death of American and Israeli soldiers.

I am not a child. I am working to further the cause of change. Radical Change.

You are working to further hatred, not to further the cause of change. You may rejoice at such death, but that only makes you hollow inside. There is no pride in seeing death. There is no pleasure in seeing one's "enemies" die.

Furthering the cause of change is bringing forth your good ideas to the people of the world. Not rejoicing in the death of others. To do such is only deepening the anger of everyone involved. It solves nothing.

Grow up and realize what you say before you speak.

Change cannot take place with the fossils of today clinging to it's outdated philosophies.

Hey I don't know why everyone is so angry, but since you guys are giving your interesting political opinions; I will put in my two cent. Now then, I don't know why everyone is mad about 800 hundred plus Americans who are dead. In World War I and II a lot more soldiers die in those wars. The democrats hate war, but it sure solve a lot of problems. Note that democrats have Demo in it, because they act like demo. For example: You might get a X-box game with a demo attach to it. You play the demo, but it only goes so far and that the end of it. What a waste. Soon I will be signing up for the U.S. Army. If they ask me to go to war to protect National Security and most important our freedom I will do it in a heart beat. I will come right out I don't agree with Gay people getting marry. This has to do with foreign policies. What are we show the world if we let people or Americans better yet of the same sex getting marry. They are most likely laugh at us to our face. We tried detrence, but it didn't work because of what happen on 9-11. We tried closing our doors of America to the world, but got drag in all Wars. The only way to slove these problems is to attack this problem head on and that problems is terrorism. We must show the world we still are a nation united and strong. Show them we are still a superpower, Because if we don't the U.S. could fall in shame or a better word Dishonor. Thank for letting me talk and maybe for listening to me. As you can seen I love politic. Love to hear your opinions.

Thank again,
SUSSR :wink:

its all fucked up both ends are hypocrits and insane nore do they make sense most of the time. I dont see why the hell anyone would classify themselves as republican or democrat it really shouldnt matter. think of it if no politicain was classified under one half of the nation or another you wouldnt be able to call half the nation dumbass's for one mans actions. Just make decisions on what you believe is best and ignore what a party says.
fuck the rules and make your own

The initial poster of this thread seriously has to be congratulated on his blatant use of bigotry via stereotypes, I haven't heard someone that propagandistic since I went bowling with the Nazis, great stuff, I salute you, sir.

is anyone noticing my replies?

I am disgusted and appalled by the initial poster of this thread. Before this day I was able to say that I didn't know any person who wished harm upon our fine military. I didn't know any person who would rejoice at the death of a soldier. Now I'm ashamed to see someone write just that. As a veteran it sickens me to see such. As a Democrat I would hope that the initial poster is just some ignorant child who hasn't seen enough of the world to know what he says. Even as such, that is no excuse for such behavior. It is derisive and shameful, no matter what the reason.

Here's two.

ANY man or woman in your 'army' is a prime target. They are combatants in unjust wars. They may be struck down anytime, anywhere.

I rejoice at the death of American and Israeli soldiers.

I am not a child. I am working to further the cause of change. Radical Change.

You are working to further hatred, not to further the cause of change. You may rejoice at such death, but that only makes you hollow inside. There is no pride in seeing death. There is no pleasure in seeing one's "enemies" die.

Furthering the cause of change is bringing forth your good ideas to the people of the world. Not rejoicing in the death of others. To do such is only deepening the anger of everyone involved. It solves nothing.

Grow up and realize what you say before you speak.

Change cannot take place with the fossils of today clinging to it's outdated philosophies.

Nor can it take place by dividing the people into groups of whom you hate and whom you approve of. You do exactly what you propose to despise. You propose nothing but hatred and cling to some irrational belief that you are working for the betterment of society? You propose only to rejoice in the death of my brethren while not saying why it is you or your "change" would benefit anyone?

Spouting ignorant catch phrases about fossilized philosophies does nothing. It proves you to be a sheep who can eagerly tout someone's party lines while not thinking for yourself what it is they mean.

Hey I don't know why everyone is so angry, but since you guys are giving your interesting political opinions; I will put in my two cent. Now then, I don't know why everyone is mad about 800 hundred plus Americans who are dead. In World War I and II a lot more soldiers die in those wars. The democrats hate war, but it sure solve a lot of problems. Note that democrats have Demo in it, because they act like demo. For example: You might get a X-box game with a demo attach to it. You play the demo, but it only goes so far and that the end of it. What a waste. Soon I will be signing up for the U.S. Army. If they ask me to go to war to protect National Security and most important our freedom I will do it in a heart beat. I will come right out I don't agree with Gay people getting marry. This has to do with foreign policies. What are we show the world if we let people or Americans better yet of the same sex getting marry. They are most likely laugh at us to our face. We tried detrence, but it didn't work because of what happen on 9-11. We tried closing our doors of America to the world, but got drag in all Wars. The only way to slove these problems is to attack this problem head on and that problems is terrorism. We must show the world we still are a nation united and strong. Show them we are still a superpower, Because if we don't the U.S. could fall in shame or a better word Dishonor. Thank for letting me talk and maybe for listening to me. As you can seen I love politic. Love to hear your opinions.

Thank again,
SUSSR :wink:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=150855

Hope to See You on the Battlefield.

Whoa man! Take a chill pill. Besides, Republicans must be doing something right, if half the voting population is registered as a Republican.

Actually that brings up an important point. - half of the VOTING POPULATION is registered as a Republican. Funny about that. See, I think there's a lot to be said for compulsory voting. Only about 11% of the entire US population vote. And poor people don't tend to vote so it's all going to be conservatives. So you have a huge variety of choices: The Republicans (the pyschotic right-wing loonies) or The Democrats (the sneakier slightly less pyschotic right-wing loonies) And because of all the fear tactics put in place after 9/11 people are going to vote for the war mongering bastard... Funny bout that, but that's just a thought.

hey heres an idea: how about all you anti American, anti troops people al enlist in the army and see if you still care? Go ahead I dare you

hey heres an idea: how about all you anti American, anti troops people al enlist in the army and see if you still care? Go ahead I dare you

I cannot enlist in the American army. It would be treason to my country.

Not that I don't intend to commit that someday in the future. At least that's what they'll call it.

Man, if there ever was a person crazy enough to damn our soldiers to hell. Wait a minute, it's Galdania. Anyways, I think you should keep in mind that they are the once who are protecting your right to speak freely. Why don't we just just welcome the Islamo-fascist terrorists with open arms? No thank you, I'd rather not live like the sh*thole countries they are from. God Bless America!!!!!! w00000000000t :twisted:

hey heres an idea: how about all you anti American, anti troops people al enlist in the army and see if you still care? Go ahead I dare you

I cannot enlist in the American army. It would be treason to my country.

Not that I don't intend to commit that someday in the future. At least that's what they'll call it.

You do realize that what you are saying can be reported to the United States Department of Homeland Security as well as the FBI Terrorism Watch Group and that even if you are just playing around you can be held responsible for your words. Making terrorist threats against the United States, or any country, is considered criminal activity.

ok then enlist in your army, SUSSR: I salute you!

great

I hate Anti-Americans.

As I recall a repbulican got us into the deppresion (herbert hoover) and a democrat got us out (Rossovelt). And as I recall a two democrats led us in ww2. And a democrat led us in world war one, vietnam, and the civil war.

I also recall the repbulicans were against the civil rights movement. And are against gay marriage. Hey, what does that say how about KKK.

They are also against abortion, but after the child is brought into the world they refuse to spend a penny on welfare or social services.

Your idol's refuse to cure blindness, diabetes and alzheimers becuase they believe a cell in a petri dish is a "living creature"

All of you war-pigs go to hell. And as for our "soildiers" they should do the same. They're all future repbulicans so it's best they die too.

Look at the unemployment figures

http://pasdc.hbg.psu.edu/pasdc/Data_&_Information/Data/235a.html

So what are repbulicans? RACSIST, HOMOPHOBIC, WAR MONGERING, HYPOCRITIAL, BASTERDS. THAT WILL ROT IN HELL
You got a sick twisted mind. To distort the facts the way you have.

Lincoln was a republican not a dem.
It was the democrats who were against civil rights and who founded the KKK.
Abortion is not an unalienable right.
Its not about whether the cell is alive but whether we should consider it to be a human being. The republicans are split 50 50 on this issue. I hold it be a living creature but not a person.
The soldiers are the ones defending your right to post this garbage.

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ITS FIGHTING FORCES!!!

First and foremost, the original poster of this thread needs to take a long time-out and examine his/her own value system. Just because someone disagrees with you does not mean they should die or go to hell. Get over yourself. Are you really so confident in your own mental powers as to asume that you are right and anyone who disagrees is wrong? We all need to realize the limitations of human reason and perception. Rather than assume there is one "correct" knowable anser to any given question, I propose we recognize the falibility in all human reasoning. We are ALL wrong in some way or other, all opinions have some value. When you start to get angry about someone else being wrong, remember, you're wrong too. I do not suggest we take this to the point of Humian skepticism, rather that we just try to keep our own limitations in perspective.
Second, I would just like to point out that Republicans are not evil. I am extremely liberal in my views, and this disagree with much of what the typical republican believes, but I recognize that they are just doing what they think is right, just like me. We simply have differeing views on righteousness.
Lastly, I would just like to put in my own two cents. One poster to the thread said that war solves many problems. But does it really? I don't think so. War seems to me to beget war, violenece to beget more violence. Only non-violent approaches solve problems. Wars, in general, tend to cause other wars. And when non-violence fails, it is because someone chooses the path of violence. We, as humans, must learn from out mistakes.

i pitty anyone who rejoices at the deaths of others, no matter what side they are fighting on.

everyday i lose more and more hope for the human race...

Whoa man! Take a chill pill. Besides, Republicans must be doing something right, if half the voting population is registered as a Republican.if they were doin something right name one thing good that Bush has done

This thread should be locked fast!



BTW, The Republicans pushed the civil rights act in the 60's thru congress. Later troll!LIBERAL republicans did that--what has selfish conservatives ever done?

LIBERAL republicans did that--what has selfish conservatives ever done?

What have selfish people _ever_ done for anyone besides themselves?

It was democrat Robert Byrd who is the only active congressman who ever served in KKKFalse again--you forget Trent Lott and Strom Thurmond and Tom Delay who are all currently active members of the new KKK known as the CCC--Byrd was only a racist when it was fashionable to be one but nowadays Byrd is an American hero who fights Bushs attempts to steal our Democracy with more and more Patriot Acts

Republicans are the only rational group in America the democrats are crazyrepublicans are the maggots in the body politic

We tried stay out of World War I right? But, we found out that we can't plug our ears and say nobody can hurt us. Same thing happen in World War II. In those wars we prove we are willing to be the Father of the world. To fight for all freedom in the world. In as I seen and hear that war is the most effect way in history. I give honor to War heros all through out history.

SUSSR :)

Why dont we close this with one last post from each side and us(my side) leave with our dignity of know that today a great man died. I also honor vetrens

Robert Byrd is a senile useless senator that should not be there. He says every republican in office is the worst in his memory he dont have enough memory to remember the last republican in office stupid democratsByrd is not so "senile" that hes willing to let Republicans rape our Constitution without a fight--you must be confusing him with a Reagan in diapers

is anyone noticing my replies?no

I hate Anti-Americans.Bush is an anti american terrorist

Yes, a democrat led the nation during the Civil War alright..... assuming the nation you're reffering to was the Confederate States of America whose president was the democrat Jefferson Davis, Abraham Lincoln was a republican, and the president of the United States of America at the time.

Yes, F.D. Roosevelt(D) got us out of the "Great Depression" by being president when WW2 started, it was the shift to a war economy that got us out of the depression, not his welfare system. (I'd say kick the Federal Reserve system out and also welfare IMO).

Last of all, unlike presently, where the south is predominately republican, during the 60's the south was predominately democrat (democrats dominated the south for about 100 years, from the civil war till the 1960's)

Of course that isn't saying anything in particular, the "views" of Democrats and Republicans changed during over time, way back in the 1860's most people who are presently republican, most probably would have been democrats (back then Democrats were of the small government opinons, and republicans supported big government.... the views have flipped flopped completely.)

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"Qui Desiderant Pacem Preparate Bellum"
("Those who desire peace, prepare for war.")

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ITS FIGHTING FORCES!!!God take Bush and Liberate America and restore Sanity to the World

Whoa man! Take a chill pill. Besides, Republicans must be doing something right, if half the voting population is registered as a Republican.if they were doin something right name one thing good that Bush has done
No child left behind.
The ban on partial birth abortions.
Kicked Saddam's ass.
Overthrew the Taliban.
Amnesty for immigrants who crossed the deadly desert of Arizona's where many of them die from thirst and other dangers like falling down ravines.
Faithbased initiatives.

LIBERAL republicans did that--what has selfish conservatives ever done?

What have selfish people _ever_ done for anyone besides themselves?exactly my point--conservativism is nothing more then the politics of selfishness and hate

We tried stay out of World War I right? But, we found out that we can't plug our ears and say nobody can hurt us. Same thing happen in World War II. In those wars we prove we are willing to be the Father of the world. To fight for all freedom in the world. In as I seen and hear that war is the most effect way in history. I give honor to War heros all through out history.

SUSSR :)as if you can compare Bush mideast OIL crusades based on nothing more then pure greed to WW1 and WW2

Why dont we close this with one last post from each side and us(my side) leave with our dignity of know that today a great man died. I also honor vetrensthere was nothing great about him at all

agh you people get off on the stupid oil thing, we would be doing what we are if anyone did it, oil or not, the oil is just like a prive in a HappyMeal, it just their thats that

I recall a democrat who brought us in recession and a Republican who is bringing us out. Bill Clinton raised taxes and put all the money back into the economy in forms of government programs. The only reason we had a booming economy during the Clinton era is credited to large tech, internet, and telcom companies. It was there stock that sent the Dow Jones soaring. It was Clinton who took the credit and put us back into recession by giving free money through programs to immigrants. After the events of September 11th and Enron/WorldCom all the blame was shifted to Bush in thoughtlessness. Those events just served as a catalyst to the inevitable thanks to Clinton's "fine work."

Thankfully President Bush made tax cuts and recreated the trickledown effect, that was successfully done under Former President Ronald Reagan (may he rest in peace). Remember the most prosperous time in history was under Reagan.

I recall it was a Republican who signed the Emanicipation Proclamation. It is the liberals who are trying to make this country a heartless and souless society. Its the liberals who live without morals and say that an embryo, (not just a few cells, but rather eight cells and a crucial stage in the fetus where many of its charachteristics are decided) is not a product of human life. It is human life that God gave and I believe should not be tampered with. It is as if to say we have the right to say who lives and who dies.

If you want gay marriage and allow everything that is souless and wrong to be legal, you then are a true liberal pig. Being married in the eyes of Jesus between two men or women is everything I am against. Rather, if homosexuals must prevail then just allow them a civil union. A civil union where they would recieve the proper tax cuts and land rights, etc.

I recall it is the democrats who are to be credited for immigrant's social security. It is these immigrants who came to America and have not payed a dime of taxes and are automatically collecting their share of social security.

Any one person who wishes our soldiers to die is a hypocrite. Those soldiers are somebody's son, somebody's brother, uncle or friend. It is becuase of these soldiers you are here living in this free state. It is becuase of those dead soldiers you can right this shit about our government and military.

There is one thing I concurred by reading your message: You know nothing about government. You listen to liberal News Network and post what you hear from there. You give democrats a bad name!

Whoa man! Take a chill pill. Besides, Republicans must be doing something right, if half the voting population is registered as a Republican.
I guess some of them forgot to check their cards when they took the latest poll? :evil:

Whoa man! Take a chill pill. Besides, Republicans must be doing something right, if half the voting population is registered as a Republican.if they were doin something right name one thing good that Bush has done
No child left behind.
The ban on partial birth abortions.
Kicked Saddam's ass.
Overthrew the Taliban.
Amnesty for immigrants who crossed the deadly desert of Arizona's where many of them die from thirst and other dangers like falling down ravines.
Faithbased initiatives.no child left behind is a pretty sounding soundbite but in practice its result has been thousands of children left behind--the ban on partial birth abortions prly affects less then 1% of all abortions performed in america is an EXTREMELY rare procerdure--Kicked Saddams ass while letting terrorists off the hook in Afghanistan and in other countries--overthrew the taliban but kept the Saudi royal family--amnesty for terrorists who couldve disguized themselves as immigrants and his attempts to turn america into some kind of theocracy by trying to make the Church the govt is something our founding fathers fought a revolution against

you left out that good ole Bill had an affair in your speech

you left out that good ole Bill had an affair in your speechBill can screw whoever he wants--he gave us the best economy in american history--something that in 4 short years Bush totally destroyed--Bush squandered the Clinton surplus on Halliburton

MKultra

I do not agree with you on most subjects that you claim. I do agree child left behind is a hairy thing. Although for very large schools something has to be done. I respect you much more than the idiot who started this thing. At least you look deeper into issues and come off a lot smarter than a lot of democrats i've seen on these message boards lately.

FREEDOM OF RELIGON NOT FROM RELIGON!

I recall a democrat who brought us in recession and a Republican who is bringing us out.
Not true. Proof?

The only reason we had a booming economy during the Clinton era is credited to large tech, internet, and telcom companies. It was there stock that sent the Dow Jones soaring. It was Clinton who took the credit and put us back into recession by giving free money through programs to immigrants.
Not true.


Thankfully President Bush made tax cuts and recreated the trickledown effect, that was successfully done under Former President Ronald Reagan (may he rest in peace). Remember the most prosperous time in history was under Reagan.


This kind of "trickle down"?

http://jec.senate.gov/democrats/charts/bush_cbo_surplus.gif

http://jec.senate.gov/democrats/charts/bush_pvtjobs70.gif

Bush had to spend clinton's surplus on outdated military supplies. Clinton took no interest in Defence. Clinton can screw who he wants but not lie to his own people!

you pointed out jan 2001 projections. the lowest point of the economy and setbacks. Why not report the monstrous recovery taking place?

i'm losing respect you reported surplus loss. You are not reporting consumer spending and economic stimulation I was referring to. How about a 6% growth in GDP?

As I recall a repbulican got us into the deppresion (herbert hoover) and a democrat got us out (Rossovelt). And as I recall a two democrats led us in ww2. And a democrat led us in world war one, vietnam, and the civil war.

I also recall the repbulicans were against the civil rights movement. And are against gay marriage. Hey, what does that say how about KKK.

They are also against abortion, but after the child is brought into the world they refuse to spend a penny on welfare or social services.

Your idol's refuse to cure blindness, diabetes and alzheimers becuase they believe a cell in a petri dish is a "living creature"

All of you war-pigs go to hell. And as for our "soildiers" they should do the same. They're all future repbulicans so it's best they die too.

Look at the unemployment figures

http://pasdc.hbg.psu.edu/pasdc/Data_&_Information/Data/235a.html

So what are repbulicans? RACSIST, HOMOPHOBIC, WAR MONGERING, HYPOCRITIAL, BASTERDS. THAT WILL ROT IN HELL

The fact that this thread has not been locked and this person has not been sanctioned just proves my earlier point about the Nation States forum.

MKultra

I do not agree with you on most subjects that you claim. I do agree child left behind is a hairy thing. Although for very large schools something has to be done. I respect you much more than the idiot who started this thing. At least you look deeper into issues and come off a lot smarter than a lot of democrats i've seen on these message boards lately.

FREEDOM OF RELIGON NOT FROM RELIGON!Thanks but Im must confess no one has ever said anything like this to me before--especially not a conservative

your all right mkultra.
you should look at bush now not jan. 2001
But that's just my opinion

you pointed out jan 2001 projections. the lowest point of the economy and setbacks. Why not report the monstrous recovery taking place?
Speaking of low points:

http://jec.senate.gov/democrats/charts/bush_poverty_byadmin.gif

Only President worse was Poppa Bush

your all right mkultra.
you should look at bush now not jan. 2001
But that's just my opinionyour alrite too and its hard for me to look beyond 911 (for personal resaons)

Republicans are the only rational group in America the democrats are crazy



Both are Crazy.

Amen :D

give me a chart of the GDP

i wish i could fight with you longer canuck, but i gotta sign off

your all right mkultra.
you should look at bush now not jan. 2001
But that's just my opinion

Yup....he is on a roll since 2001:

US National Debt

06/03/2004 $7,210,718,887,247.47

09/28/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06

$1.4 Trillion more debt in less than 3 years.

As I recall a repbulican got us into the deppresion (herbert hoover) and a democrat got us out (Rossovelt). And as I recall a two democrats led us in ww2. And a democrat led us in world war one, vietnam, and the civil war. So?

I also recall the repbulicans were against the civil rights movement. And are against gay marriage. Hey, what does that say how about KKK. Did you know more democrats voted against the civil rights acts than republicans? And hello, Abraham Lincoln was the first republican pres, and he freed the slaves.

They are also against abortion, but after the child is brought into the world they refuse to spend a penny on welfare or social services. Yes, people should be forced to take care of their mistakes themselves. Only a fool would leave the government to do everything for them.

Your idol's refuse to cure blindness, diabetes and alzheimers becuase they believe a cell in a petri dish is a "living creature" At one point do those cells become human? Does the passage from womb suddenly grant life?

All of you war-pigs go to hell. And as for our "soildiers" they should do the same. They're all future repbulicans so it's best they die too. ...I'll leave that one alone... it's too stupid to respond to.

Look at the unemployment figures

http://pasdc.hbg.psu.edu/pasdc/Data_&_Information/Data/235a.html

So what are repbulicans? RACSIST, HOMOPHOBIC, WAR MONGERING, HYPOCRITIAL, BASTERDS. THAT WILL ROT IN HELLAnd Democrats are reverse-racist homophilliacs who are afraid to stand for anything...

O-Lincoln freed all the slaves? Have you every read the emancipation proclamation? I take it you have not. It only freed slaves whose master where fighting for the Confederacy. But, forget that, how does one nation pass laws over another? Could the US just one day pass a law which would make the English free there pets?
I hate when people do not know their own history.

O-Lincoln freed all the slaves? Have you every read the emancipation proclamation? I take it you have not. It only freed slaves whose master where fighting for the Confederacy. But, forget that, how does one nation pass laws over another? Could the US just one day pass a law which would make the English free there pets?
I hate when people do not know their own history.also in the 1800s the republicans were the LIBERALS and in the 1960s it was LIBERAL republicans who supported civil rights for blacks and the southern dems who opposed it are all TODAYS republicans

Which conservative Democrats switched over to become conservative Republicans? Al Gore Sr? Fritz Hollings? Byrd himself?

Most of the people that switched parties from Democrat to Republican in the 60's and 70's only did so so that they wouldn't be known as racists. Perfect exmple is Strom Thurmond, he became the first (white) Southern Senator to integrate his staff.

You know what's sad? People who call people who don't support wars in America unpatriotic. Has it ever occured to you people that some of us don't like the fact that we are throwing away the lives of young, very brave Americans who enlisted in the army on the premise that if they would fight, it would be for a just cause. Instead, they are forced into a war that was on the premise of WMDs, WHICH WERE NEVER FOUND. Then, Bush said the war was about liberating Iraq, probably to justify it, much like Lincoln did after the Civil War. About liberating, why Iraq? Why not N. Korea, who, at one point said they WERE building WMDs, and definetly had some human right's abuses going on. The answer is this: our cars don't run on steamed cabbage. I mean, atleast in the Vietnam war, the south Vietnamese WERE being invaded. Face the facts: we are throwing away lives of brave people in Iraq for no real cause, and I should point out that we didn't route out any terrorists in Iraq, but we convinced a whole bunch more muslims to be terroists.

I see. So because we don't invade every dictatorship in the world, that means that taking out Saddam is bad and that we shouldn't have gone into Iraq. That makes sense. Sort of.. not. :roll:

BTW, the reason we didn't invade North Korea was because they have atomic weapons that, even a few of which, could kill tens of millions in the most densely populated area on the Earth.

Strom Thurmond, he became the first (white) Southern Senator to integrate his staff.

He also ran for President on the Segragationist Ticket.

and now for a stupid quote.


All of you war-pigs go to hell. And as for our "soildiers" they should do the same. They're all future repbulicans so it's best they die too

To wich Raysia responded...

leave that one alone... it's too stupid to respond to.

Good idea...

Another stupid quote.....


[so hat are repbulicans? RACSIST, HOMOPHOBIC, WAR MONGERING, HYPOCRITIAL, BASTERDS. THAT WILL ROT IN HELL

and now a stupid quote from Raysia...
and democrats
are reverse-racist homophilliacs who are afraid to stand for anything...


Now that THATS out of the way.....

You want the real difference?

Republicans are rich, lying bastards who want nothing more than total global domination.

Democrats are spineless dreamers who dont have a house, or senate majority to do any real good at the moment.

Right now bush is trying to stomp out homosexual rights. This is undeniable we have recorded evidence.

Bush and Reagen repelled the clean air act. It was reanacted by Clinton but was again repelled by the jackass in office right now. Of course who needs clean air?

Bush proposes loosening protections of endangered species. Sure, species extinction is a bad thing, but is it as bad as, say, not having a wastebasket made out of real ivory? That's the position of the Bush administration, anyway, which lifts restrictions on killing and trading endangered species. But at least it's only foreign animals. Who cares about those animals in other countries?


Bush tells Congress not to offer a Medicare prescription drug benefit to the poor. Traditionally, Medicare benefits go to all Medicare recipients. But President Bush wants millions of low-income seniors to lose out on any new prescription drug benefit. He would rather those seniors rely on the states' Medicaid benefits, which vary from state to state (and year to year) and worsen the states' already severe fiscal crises -- which Bush has made worse with his enormous tax cuts.

Bush gives federal funds to religious groups. President Bush continues his efforts to chip away at the wall between church and state by issuing new regulations that allow new federal funds to go religious groups. But this is about more than church-state separation. It's also about Bush's attempt to move the federal government out of the business of helping people.

Bush expands global abortion gag rules. One of Bush's first acts in office (see 1-21-2001 below) was to limit funding to international organizations that provide abortions. Now he expands that rule so that no federal funds can go to international organizations that provide any abortions, even with their own funds. The result, of course, is devastating for the health of the world's poorest women.

Bush allows the sale of PCB-polluted lands. Remember when EPA stood for Environmental Protection Agency? President Bush's EPA -- who knows what the hell it stands for under that guy -- reverses a 25-year policy of not selling lands polluted by PCBs. The bans prevented people from spreading the pollution until the EPA could ensure the lands were clean. Not any more.

http://www.wage-slave.org/scorecard.html

Right now bush is trying to stomp out homosexual rights. This is undeniable we have recorded evidence.

Bush and Reagen repelled the clean air act. It was reanacted by Clinton but was again repelled by the jackass in office right now. Of course who needs clean air?

Bush proposes loosening protections of endangered species. Sure, species extinction is a bad thing, but is it as bad as, say, not having a wastebasket made out of real ivory? That's the position of the Bush administration, anyway, which lifts restrictions on killing and trading endangered species. But at least it's only foreign animals. Who cares about those animals in other countries?


Bush tells Congress not to offer a Medicare prescription drug benefit to the poor. Traditionally, Medicare benefits go to all Medicare recipients. But President Bush wants millions of low-income seniors to lose out on any new prescription drug benefit. He would rather those seniors rely on the states' Medicaid benefits, which vary from state to state (and year to year) and worsen the states' already severe fiscal crises -- which Bush has made worse with his enormous tax cuts.

Bush gives federal funds to religious groups. President Bush continues his efforts to chip away at the wall between church and state by issuing new regulations that allow new federal funds to go religious groups. But this is about more than church-state separation. It's also about Bush's attempt to move the federal government out of the business of helping people.

Bush expands global abortion gag rules. One of Bush's first acts in office (see 1-21-2001 below) was to limit funding to international organizations that provide abortions. Now he expands that rule so that no federal funds can go to international organizations that provide any abortions, even with their own funds. The result, of course, is devastating for the health of the world's poorest women.

Bush allows the sale of PCB-polluted lands. Remember when EPA stood for Environmental Protection Agency? President Bush's EPA -- who knows what the hell it stands for under that guy -- reverses a 25-year policy of not selling lands polluted by PCBs. The bans prevented people from spreading the pollution until the EPA could ensure the lands were clean. Not any more.

http://www.wage-slave.org/scorecard.htmlConservatives have a 3000 year history of opposing human rights and people power dating all the way back to when republicans who favored the rich assassinated Julius Caesar

Think it was a good thing we went to war with Iraq. Some people say we did it for the oil. That is only half way true. First, we needed to take out their leader Saddam. He cause a threat to National Security and that is enough to take out somebody. The crazy mad man was trying to create WMD so he can get rid of the USA once in for all. Second, the oil is major issue. If they are trying to use it to buy WMD stuff and buy cutting us off from the oil make our gas prices go sky rocket is wrong. I agree in taking the oil for the US. We can put it to better use for the benfit of the US and the US military. Democrats and Reps. agree for removing Saddam by signing some contract. So they have nothing to say. :x

Thanks,
SUSSR

Think it was a good thing we went to war with Iraq. Some people say we did it for the oil. That is only half way true. First, we needed to take out their leader Saddam. He cause a threat to National Security and that is enough to take out somebody. The crazy mad man was trying to create WMD so he can get rid of the USA once in for all. Second, the oil is major issue. If they are trying to use it to buy WMD stuff and buy cutting us off from the oil make our gas prices go sky rocket is wrong. I agree in taking the oil for the US. We can put it to better use for the benfit of the US and the US military. Democrats and Reps. agree for removing Saddam by signing some contract. So they have nothing to say. :x

Thanks,
SUSSRSaddam was an utterly helpless man in a spider hole in a country that was 100% disarmed--Iraq was attacked because it was weak and had oil wells that Bush could steal and contracts for Cheneys employer to make a killing--Saddam was a total nonissue--if re-elected Bush will invade more arab countries because his ultimate goal is to loot every oil producing country in existence--terrorism is what Bush uses to scare the american people into supporting his imperialism

I am disgusted and appalled by the initial poster of this thread. Before this day I was able to say that I didn't know any person who wished harm upon our fine military. I didn't know any person who would rejoice at the death of a soldier. Now I'm ashamed to see someone write just that. As a veteran it sickens me to see such. As a Democrat I would hope that the initial poster is just some ignorant child who hasn't seen enough of the world to know what he says. Even as such, that is no excuse for such behavior. It is derisive and shameful, no matter what the reason.

Here's two.

ANY man or woman in your 'army' is a prime target. They are combatants in unjust wars. They may be struck down anytime, anywhere.

I rejoice at the death of American and Israeli soldiers.

I am not a child. I am working to further the cause of change. Radical Change.

You are working to further hatred, not to further the cause of change. You may rejoice at such death, but that only makes you hollow inside. There is no pride in seeing death. There is no pleasure in seeing one's "enemies" die.

Furthering the cause of change is bringing forth your good ideas to the people of the world. Not rejoicing in the death of others. To do such is only deepening the anger of everyone involved. It solves nothing.

Grow up and realize what you say before you speak.

Change cannot take place with the fossils of today clinging to it's outdated philosophies.

Nor can it take place by dividing the people into groups of whom you hate and whom you approve of. You do exactly what you propose to despise. You propose nothing but hatred and cling to some irrational belief that you are working for the betterment of society? You propose only to rejoice in the death of my brethren while not saying why it is you or your "change" would benefit anyone?

Spouting ignorant catch phrases about fossilized philosophies does nothing. It proves you to be a sheep who can eagerly tout someone's party lines while not thinking for yourself what it is they mean.

Absolutely, thunderland. How interesting that now everyone wants to be liberal and institute their own brand of "radical change". It has become that liberalism has become the new thing. People should realize by now, after reading all posts from many different poiltical forums, that they need to establish their own ideas and not blindly follow any party completely. Why people constantly argue and bring in these ignorant "arguements" mostly just spewing some garbage they heard, is beyond me. It's beyond anyone here. And that's just it." Let's see how intelligent or knowledgable we can sound, and my opinion is the best. " It's all good to express to express one's opinion, but why bring animosity, (not you thunderland, people in general), ignorance, and hatred into these discussions. People need to realize that we will only get so far with our discussions and reason and not try to cover that fact with, clever sayings and attacking others, that is ignorance. Don't bring that into these boards. People like the one who started this and that "person" who wished soldiers and our, yes, our, commander in chief, to hell are the most despicable kind of person. If someone jumped in front of a bullet,would you damn them to hell? Even though I am rep. EVERYONE should realize that real change does not REQUIRE, (although it may be necessary), bloodshed or being against set establishments. Oh, and Thunderland, big ups for serving our country. As hard as it may be to believe in this country now, there are those who appreciate what all you and others have done, much love.

its all f--- up both ends are hypocrits and insane nore do they make sense most of the time. I dont see why the hell anyone would classify themselves as republican or democrat it really shouldnt matter. think of it if no politicain was classified under one half of the nation or another you wouldnt be able to call half the nation dumbass's for one mans actions. Just make decisions on what you believe is best and ignore what a party says.
no one seemed to read it the first time so ill try again